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13:10 mark they start discussing the issue in depth 15:35 Larry goes into detail
Larry wheels actually explains it pretty well. Carlos tore an Acl and therefore wears sleeves. Larry explains wraps can actually make knee issues worse as they allow you to squat 100lbs more and put too much pressure on the knee. He says the records between the two divisions are different and that the sleeve keeps joints warm and offers protection he says for health purposes the sleeve is better. I am retutnign my sleevs to Inzer today have them all boxed up to go with the return number. However I am going to train squats now despite saying I would wait on the sleeves. I am doing 2 squat workouts without them now of course without the sleeves I will be keeping it in a higher rep range. But I am a pussy for wanting to wait on my sleeves to do low reps just like the professional powerlifter and bodybuilder recommend
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13:10 mark they start discussing the issue in depth 15:35 Larry goes into detail
Larry wheels actually explains it pretty well. Carlos tore an Acl and therefore wears sleeves. Larry explains wraps can actually make knee issues worse as they allow you to squat 100lbs more and put too much pressure on the knee. He says the records between the two divisions are different and that the sleeve keeps joints warm and offers protection he says for health purposes the sleeve is better. I am retutnign my sleevs to Inzer today have them all boxed up to go with the return number. However I am going to train squats now despite saying I would wait on the sleeves. I am doing 2 squat workouts without them now of course without the sleeves I will be keeping it in a higher rep range. But I am a pussy for wanting to wait on my sleeves to do low reps just like the professional powerlifter and bodybuilder recommend
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What's the estimated date for the 405 squat now?
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What's the estimated date for the 405 squat now?
Aug 6th
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Lee Haney recommends using knee sleeves with open patella, so there is no pressure pushing down on the kneecap.
That is what I use.
Which I had used knee sleeves from the beginning.
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13:10 mark they start discussing the issue in depth 15:35 Larry goes into detail
Larry wheels actually explains it pretty well. Carlos tore an Acl and therefore wears sleeves. Larry explains wraps can actually make knee issues worse as they allow you to squat 100lbs more and put too much pressure on the knee. He says the records between the two divisions are different and that the sleeve keeps joints warm and offers protection he says for health purposes the sleeve is better. I am retutnign my sleevs to Inzer today have them all boxed up to go with the return number. However I am going to train squats now despite saying I would wait on the sleeves. I am doing 2 squat workouts without them now of course without the sleeves I will be keeping it in a higher rep range. But I am a pussy for wanting to wait on my sleeves to do low reps just like the professional powerlifter and bodybuilder recommend
agreed
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Been using the old Tommy Kono TK sleeves for a long time.
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So i guess this is a big NO on the 405 squat video?
Too many excuses.
I've squatted over 600 pounds.
Never used wraps or sleeves in my life.
My knees are fine.
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Aug 6th
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So i guess this is a big NO on the 405 squat video?
Too many excuses.
I've squatted over 600 pounds.
Never used wraps or sleeves in my life.
My knees are fine.
Good god- I squatted 405 in college after just 6 months of training- and most guys can do that. Methinks brian is full of shit about everything.
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Good god- I squatted 405 in college after just 6 months of training- and most guys can do that. Methinks brian is full of shit about everything.
He's just a narcissistic asshole.
He is completely full of shit and struggles with basic comprehension.
The fact that he believes he needs "sleeves" to squat 405 shows how far out of reality his mind wonders.
In his mind he is Bill Kazmaier preparing for the next Squat Lift event at the WSM.
Just needs the sleeves because "all powerlifters use them".
And after all, Brian is an elite level power lifter who trains his legs with body weight sissy squats.
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I agree pretty much with ThisisOverload.
Seen dozen of high school athlete's squat well above the 400 mark for higher reps, back or front squat positions. All in average workouts, nothing special and no sleeves or wraps. .. Even some women lifters accomplish this also. All without any sleeve's, wraps or whatever, even for older lifters.
Some will use ballet leg/knee warmer before squats. And a few will use a heating lotion/cream before squatting. Bring heat to the area.
There is a old pro or con theory that wearing sleeves or wraps will only encourage weaker knees/elbows in the long run. The number one rule is to warmup, of course. (heard stories that a few Olympic lifters of the former eastern block countries could walk into a gym and rep out 500+squats with no warmup and still in street clothes...that's the story anyway)
Good Luck..
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There is a old pro or con theory that wearing sleeves or wraps will only encourage weaker knees/elbows in the long run. The number one rule is to warmup, of course. (heard stories that a few Olympic lifters of the former eastern block countries could walk into a gym and rep out 500+squats with no warmup and still in street clothes...that's the story anyway)
Good to see you around JPM.
I started training Oly lifting when i was 19, the coach told us that we shouldn't wear sleeves or wraps. He was an old school guy.
They never made sense to me, but i also have a big bone structure and haven't ever felt like my joints were a weakness.
I used to always train in sweatpants, to keep my knees/hips warm.
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You won't find many guys in commercial gyms squatting 405 for reps to proper depth let alone in high school weight rooms
Also there's nothing wrong with knee sleeves
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Not sure what high school gyms you are going to where dozens of kids are front-squatting 400+ lbs for high reps, that’s insane strength for anyone let alone a teenager.
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Not sure what high school gyms you are going to where dozens of kids are front-squatting 400+ lbs for high reps, that’s insane strength for anyone let alone a teenager.
405+ front squats is a pretty standard strength metric for the freshman football team where im at. This is a one rep max for the freshmen (but it's a working set for seniors). Run of the mill strength.
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You won't find many guys in commercial gyms squatting 405 for reps to proper depth let alone in high school weight rooms
Also there's nothing wrong with knee sleeves
Since the widespread introduction of the 45 degree leg press you don't see people squatting as much - but it used to be very common. In my college gym I hardly ever saw anyone using sleeves for squats.
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Not sure what high school gyms you are going to where dozens of kids are front-squatting 400+ lbs for high reps, that’s insane strength for anyone let alone a teenager.
We had kids squatting 400+ when i played football in HS. Granted i went to a well known 5A HS in Texas that was known for having big boys.
Not a bunch of them, but i remember a handful of guys doing it. Mainly the big linemen. A 250 pound 6'3" 18 year old kid squatting 400 isn't that crazy IMO. Many of these kids had been lifting for 5-6 years already.
We never did front squats in HS.
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405+ front squats is a pretty standard strength metric for the freshman football team where im at. This is a one rep max for the freshmen (but it's a working set for seniors). Run of the mill strength.
You have quite the active imagination bro
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A "405" squat means nothing before you see the depth. A 2 inch difference in depth can mean 100lbs difference in load.
A claimed parallel squat is often a quarter squat.
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You have quite the active imagination bro
Maybe.
I'd like to see some high school athletes front squatting 405 for high reps. Perhaps someone can post a few videos.
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The high schools around San Diego county mostly. Public and parochial schools. Also have a link to Riverside and San Bernardino county school training disciplines. Not saying those 400 squats are only from one special school...but than again lots of very powerful young players around.
Most top rated football high schools have very advanced lifting programs, built on college or modified pro type training. Depends on the strength coach. A few running backs have gone into the 400 range in squats. All without wraps or sleeves in training.
Once the correct form, flexibility and confidence of front squatting is learned, than that weight on the bar can advance pretty quickly. 400 is not out of the question. I'm 49 now. When playing HS ball I didn't see that current improved strength level of some of the high schooler's back than. Power cleans help the front squat quite well, and football linemen get their reps in doing those. There were 400lb squatters, but not as many as today in High schools around SoCal.
Good Luck.
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WRAPS
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Maybe.
I'd like to see some high school athletes front squatting 405 for high reps. Perhaps someone can post a few videos.
I'll visit some of the local schools in Riverside and San Bernadino county that JPM is talking about.
Im sure the schools wont have a problem with me recording these young men working out, especially when I tell them its for the SoCal based website Getbig. Then once I name drop JPM101 we will have unprecedented access to these athletes front squatting large weights!!
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WRAPS
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(https://content.instructables.com/ORIG/F4C/E3MG/H8OJEIFP/F4CE3MGH8OJEIFP.jpg?auto=webp)
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A sampling of American HS Squats to keep the conversation going -
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https://m.facebook.com/Wallacetrainingsystems/videos/jfrye_325-buries-a-405-squat-anything-north-of-400-is-a-great-squat-for-a-high-s/210323863410461/ <-------- This one is high quality.
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https://ur-pk.facebook.com/rolandrangersfootball/videos/mason-schalski-405-squat/2853924141596048/ .
https://ne-np.facebook.com/LagunaHillsFootball/videos/jr-alex-membreno-squat-maxed-405-pounds-today-hard-work-pays-off/405039123616674/
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Cleans at #350 or better -
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1413146947314012177
https://usatodayhss.com/2016/video-georgia-nose-tackle-power-cleans-400-pounds-like-its-nothing
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WRAPS ON HEAVY SETS ONLY DAMMIT !!
SLEEVES SUCK DAMMIT !!
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I agree pretty much with ThisisOverload.
Seen dozen of high school athlete's squat well above the 400 mark for higher reps, back or front squat positions. All in average workouts, nothing special and no sleeves or wraps. .. Even some women lifters accomplish this also. All without any sleeve's, wraps or whatever, even for older lifters.
Some will use ballet leg/knee warmer before squats. And a few will use a heating lotion/cream before squatting. Bring heat to the area.
There is a old pro or con theory that wearing sleeves or wraps will only encourage weaker knees/elbows in the long run. The number one rule is to warmup, of course. (heard stories that a few Olympic lifters of the former eastern block countries could walk into a gym and rep out 500+squats with no warmup and still in street clothes...that's the story anyway)
Good Luck..
Good to see you back posting my friend.
All the best !!
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BB comes through as always. The 13 year old is nuts, if that really is 4 plates.
This may seem like me complaining but it's as I knew it would be, most of these are 3 quarter or quarter squats. "What do you mean bro, these look good to me bro?" When someone says their squats is such and such it doesn't say anything to me before I view it. I see a true squat as breaking parallel. For me, at my strongest, those few inches would mean the difference between a 500 and 700 squat. It's the same with leg presses. Numbers mean absolutely nothing until you see the depth.
I don't think there are many high school kids front squatting 4 plates for "many reps." I trained with an IPF lifter who was on the podium at World Champs in the 200lbs weight class. His front squat PR was 400lbs. My front squat PR was 420 after a ton of juice and decades of training Lol. What I'm saying is that a 4 plate front squat is crazy strong and I don't think it's common for children.
There are many long time lifters on Getbig. How many front squat 405lbs currently, especially if they haven't done the lift for awhile?
Last pic is a true parallel squat. What we see these kids doing is the first image mostly.
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BB comes through as always. The 13 year old is nuts, if that really is 4 plates.
This may seem like me complaining but it's as I knew it would be, most of these are 3 quarter or quarter squats. What do you mean bro, these look good to me bro? When someone says their squats is such and such it doesn't say anything to me before I view it. I see a true squat as breaking parallel. For me, at my strongest, those few inches would mean the difference between a 500 and 700 squat.
I don't think there are many high school kids front squatting 4 plates for "many reps." I trained with an IPF lifter who was on the podium at World Champs in the 200lbs weight class. His front squat PR was 400lbs. My front squat PR was 420 after a ton of juice and decades of training Lol. What I'm saying is that a 4 plate front squat is crazy strong and I don't think it's common for children.
There are many long time lifters on Getbig. How many front squat 405lbs currently, especially if they haven't done the lift for awhile?
X 2 Gotta` agree with Vans common sense.
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405+ front squats is a pretty standard strength metric for the freshman football team where im at. This is a one rep max for the freshmen (but it's a working set for seniors). Run of the mill strength.
Vivid imagination
& Suffering from verbal Diahorrea
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Van is spot-on as usual.
Front-squatting 405+ for high reps as some common thing among high school football players is a ridiculous claim unless you are being real generous with the definitions of “squat” and “high”. Dedicated strength-athletes train and juice for decades and most couldn’t do that.
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Typical Max Test testing in American HS -
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Front Squats, Non - OL Kids, #315 or better -
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Claimed he hit #315 x 2 after this -
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https://twitter.com/coachnick_knows/status/1355484513405702144 .
https://twitter.com/Josh34Stanton/status/826642481127313410 .
https://twitter.com/ShanleyPhysEd/status/1263177139014205445 .
https://twitter.com/CoachJesseLynch/status/838779985359998977 <------ Probably the heaviest you'll see.
https://twitter.com/i/status/826642106492006401 .
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In short, unless you're looking at some 1 in a million OL or Powerlifting outlier that just happens to be in a high school gym, you're not going to see #405 front squats. Even in an Olympic Lifting gym, a #405 front squat is a rare thing from a teenage lifter. You probably won't even see a good #315 front at a HS gym 99% of the time.
If anyone has any more non-OL teenage front squats at #315 or better, post them up, because they're rare as hen's teeth.
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Great videos!
Earlier I said 405 front squats were coming for the freshman football team in my area, but I was wrong.
It’s actually the cheerleading team that has this requirement! These girls all tend to be ex gymnast’s so they have an incredible strength base from childhood. It’s Impressive to see a 115 teen girl front squat 405.
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I've never met many strength coaches (football) who encouraged going below parallel when squatting....high school, college or pro. Some suggest even stopping before that break (stopping before parallel). Yes, 400+ for some high school kids.
This can included front squatting, which really comes to mean quarter, or a bit below, reps to be honest, in a sports training program (unless your a Olympic lifter, the true athlete in the lifting world) .. It's the idea of getting adjusted to handling heavier weights targeting the shoulder girdle, where you need it in football. Front squats are a exercise that must be learned. Yes, 400+ has been done.
The Zercher squat(BB resting between the bent bicep and forearm in a cradle position) can also be injected into an athletes training. It is an exceptional exercise for power performance. Used in football style workouts and with very heavy weight. Not sure of any record poundage, but have personally seen 400+lbs used for reps (ah yes, that magical 400 again).
Good Luck
(Right back at ya Wes)
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BB comes through as always. The 13 year old is nuts, if that really is 4 plates.
This may seem like me complaining but it's as I knew it would be, most of these are 3 quarter or quarter squats. "What do you mean bro, these look good to me bro?" When someone says their squats is such and such it doesn't say anything to me before I view it. I see a true squat as breaking parallel. For me, at my strongest, those few inches would mean the difference between a 500 and 700 squat. It's the same with leg presses. Numbers mean absolutely nothing until you see the depth.
I don't think there are many high school kids front squatting 4 plates for "many reps." I trained with an IPF lifter who was on the podium at World Champs in the 200lbs weight class. His front squat PR was 400lbs. My front squat PR was 420 after a ton of juice and decades of training Lol. What I'm saying is that a 4 plate front squat is crazy strong and I don't think it's common for children.
There are many long time lifters on Getbig. How many front squat 405lbs currently, especially if they haven't done the lift for awhile?
Last pic is a true parallel squat. What we see these kids doing is the first image mostly.
They aren't lifting for a competition, just building strength.
I was never told to squat below what was considered comfortable in HS.
But i agree with you, a full depth 405 squat is a lot harder than a 3/4 squat, that last few inches can bury you.
I've done a front squat with 455, but this was years ago when i was back squatting 600+.
Today i think i could get a few good reps with 335 or so, but i have no reason to try it. Heaviest i've gone recently on a front squat is 295 for 8-10 reps.
In high school we did a ton of back squats, hang cleans and power cleans. I don't recall anyone doing a front squat, but this was 27 years ago.
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I have seen a lot of first time powerlifting competitors get very disappointed when their big gym squat loses about 100 lbs when they have to get down to a legal depth
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I've never met many strength coaches (football) who encouraged going below parallel when squatting....high school, college or pro. Some suggest even stopping before that break (stopping before parallel). Yes, 400+ for some high school kids.
They aren't lifting for a competition, just building strength.
I was never told to squat below what was considered comfortable in HS.
I saw some famous coach talk about not going below parallel, how it hurt performance, is injurious etc. Looking at his videos his parallel isn't even a quarter squat.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CUXZDuxgGJz/?utm_medium=copy_link
Then other coaches ridiculed him, said the opposite was true. I don't know enough biomechanics in athletics to say one way or another.
A few years ago I tore my teardrop doing a double front squat with 350lbs. Weak ass constitution :D
I have seen a lot of first time powerlifting competitors get very disappointed when their big gym squat loses about 100 lbs when they have to get down to a legal depth
I can't even hit legal depth without heels.
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Springfield College.....in my hometown !!
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In spite of my sticklike legs,I always broke paralell when I quatted,but I no lomger do them as all they ever did was make me stronger than Hell,with zilch for leg development..plus they fucked up my aching back which has been flaring up for 3 weeks now.
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Form has a lot to do with hitting parallel.(sounds pretty obvious) but if you can keep your lower legs perpendicular to the ground you can reach parallel with a shorter lifting stroke.Mike Bridges was the best I ever saw.He trained at our gym for a while and I would watch him squat and he looked like he only lifted it about 6 inches.You would think no way is that parallel but I would watch from the side and he was below parallel every time.He had a wide stance and his lower legs would be perfectly perpendicular to the ground and he was only lifting the weight a short distance but was well below parallel.Some of these kids could tweak their form a little and get more out of their squat powerlifting speaking but I guess for training their lower bodies they are getting plenty of work the way they’re doing it. I would just add that “Back in my day” if you squatted high you got verbally abused by the guys at Metro Athletic club.
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I can't even hit legal depth without heels.
Same here, i have long leg bones.
I've always had to wear the Adidas lifting shoes.
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Check out Chad Nichols Instagram page and see his 14yr old son bench 365
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Check out Chad Nichols Instagram page and see his 14yr old son bench 365
He is juicing the kid no doubt. He is simply too strong, absolutely insane bench numbers. Both kids are juiced. I would love to know exactly what he is giving them.
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He is juicing the kid no doubt. He is simply too strong, absolutely insane bench numbers. Both kids are juiced. I would love to know exactly what he is giving them.
He's a sick fuck to be feeding his teenage sons dianabol.
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BB comes through as always. The 13 year old is nuts, if that really is 4 plates.
This may seem like me complaining but it's as I knew it would be, most of these are 3 quarter or quarter squats. "What do you mean bro, these look good to me bro?" When someone says their squats is such and such it doesn't say anything to me before I view it. I see a true squat as breaking parallel. For me, at my strongest, those few inches would mean the difference between a 500 and 700 squat. It's the same with leg presses. Numbers mean absolutely nothing until you see the depth.
I don't think there are many high school kids front squatting 4 plates for "many reps." I trained with an IPF lifter who was on the podium at World Champs in the 200lbs weight class. His front squat PR was 400lbs. My front squat PR was 420 after a ton of juice and decades of training Lol. What I'm saying is that a 4 plate front squat is crazy strong and I don't think it's common for children.
There are many long time lifters on Getbig. How many front squat 405lbs currently, especially if they haven't done the lift for awhile?
Last pic is a true parallel squat. What we see these kids doing is the first image mostly.
I usually squat between the 3rd and 4th frame, always deep.
My best front squat, a few years back, was 425, dropped 455. Now? No idea. If I remember, I'll try some next week and see where I'm at.
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To me, this is probably as good as it gets- a 170 pound guy going up to 495 for reps. I posted it because his form is excellent- and for a guy his weight, it's impressive as Hell. He wasn't maxxed out, that's obvious.
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To me, this is probably as good as it gets- a 170 pound guy going up to 495 for reps. I posted it because his form is excellent- and for a guy his weight, it's impressive as Hell. He wasn't maxxed out, that's obvious.
yes that is impressive as Hell
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All these pansies today that do curtsey "squats" need a few repeated kick to the nuts in rapid succession.
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I usually squat between the 3rd and 4th frame, always deep.
My best front squat, a few years back, was 425, dropped 455. Now? No idea. If I remember, I'll try some next week and see where I'm at.
I never really got into them much as they are so uncomfortable on your collarbone. You would adapt pretty quickly though if you stuck with it. If done to load the quads they might not be that advantageous either, at least that's what a few biomechanics experts say on IG :D
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I never really got into them much as they are so uncomfortable on your collarbone. You would adapt pretty quickly though if you stuck with it. If done to load the quads they might not be that advantageous either, at least that's what a few biomechanics experts say on IG :D
I found I get swelling on my left collarbone, like a golf ball under the skin type swelling. :D
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I used to do full rep squats now do them the same way in the video I posted above.
Have better results and no knee or lower back pain.
With that way tension is kept on the muscle at all times. Same applies to other exercises.
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Since the widespread introduction of the 45 degree leg press you don't see people squatting as much - but it used to be very common. In my college gym I hardly ever saw anyone using sleeves for squats.
My back and knees prefer the 45 degree leg press to squatting. :)
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We had kids squatting 400+ when i played football in HS. Granted i went to a well known 5A HS in Texas that was known for having big boys.
Not a bunch of them, but i remember a handful of guys doing it. Mainly the big linemen. A 250 pound 6'3" 18 year old kid squatting 400 isn't that crazy IMO. Many of these kids had been lifting for 5-6 years already.
We never did front squats in HS.
I like front squats when I can do them on a machine
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The real question is how much is the stress switching to the glutes and hamstrings as you go deeper. What are we trying to train. If you want more glute and hamstring activation go deeper. I am actually concerned the squats are not hitting my quads enough. We have all seen people doing massive squats with no leg development
I will say this since I started squatting again my appetite and weight have increased
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The real question is how much is the stress switching to the glutes and hamstrings as you go deeper. What are we trying to train. If you want more glute and hamstring activation go deeper. I am actually concerned the squats are not hitting my quads enough. We have all seen people doing massive squats with no leg development
I will say this since I started squatting again my appetite and weight have increased
Good point, and I think going for weight over mind-muscle connection is also to blame. The glutes-hams are prime movers and can easily take over if you go too heavy
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The real question is how much is the stress switching to the glutes and hamstrings as you go deeper. What are we trying to train. If you want more glute and hamstring activation go deeper. I am actually concerned the squats are not hitting my quads enough. We have all seen people doing massive squats with no leg development
I will say this since I started squatting again my appetite and weight have increased
For quads you want the knee travel over your toes or as far in front as possible, maximal knee flexion. Upright posture.
*use wedges under heels* For the posterior chain including glutes you want to lengthen the glutes maximally, tryin to keep the shins perpendicular and "sitting back" into a squat, the opposite of a quad dominant squat. You will need to bend over more. Lower bar placement may be advatageous.
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For quads you want the knee travel over your toes or as far in front as possible, maximal knee flexion. Upright posture. For the posterior chain including glutes you want to lengthen the glutes maximally, tryin to keep the shins perpendicular and "sitting back" into a squat, the opposite of a quad dominant squat. You will need to bend over more. Lower bar placement may be advatageous.
Yes they claim lower bar and wider allows you to squat more. I usually try different variations if doing multiple sets anyway. I think the main benefit is just waking up the bodies anabolic response to be honest. I am having bad tendonitis in my arm anyway so going to focus on squats and eating for a couple weeks. Can feel the body needs rest and calories was overtrained as always.
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The real question is how much is the stress switching to the glutes and hamstrings as you go deeper. What are we trying to train. If you want more glute and hamstring activation go deeper. I am actually concerned the squats are not hitting my quads enough. We have all seen people doing massive squats with no leg development
I will say this since I started squatting again my appetite and weight have increased
I read many times that the squat is the best all around exercise a person can do. I think you have to do some additional exercises if you have hard to develop quads.
When on long drives and I have to stop for gas, I jump out of the car and do a couple of sets of bodyweight squats. I always feel invigorated afterwards.
-Can't give advice on developing big muscular quads because I've never managed to develop them. The biggest they've ever been, if I remember correctly, was 26" and that was when I weighed 225 lbs.
Leg extensions are fun because you can see all the cuts in your quads while doing them. I'm not sure they do much for growing them.
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I read many times that the squat is the best all around exercise a person can do. I think you have to do some additional exercises if you have hard to develop quads.
When on long drives and I have to stop for gas, I jump out of the car and do a couple of sets of bodyweight squats. I always feel invigorated afterwards.
-Can't give advice on developing big muscular quads because I've never managed to develop them. The biggest they've ever been, if I remember correctly, was 26" and that was when I weighed 225 lbs.
Leg extensions are fun because you can see all the cuts in your quads while doing them. I'm not sure they do much for growing them.
Hey Prime what are these long rides you’re referring too? I thought, based on your car’s mileage, you average less than 6000 miles of driving a year?
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The real question is how much is the stress switching to the glutes and hamstrings as you go deeper. What are we trying to train. If you want more glute and hamstring activation go deeper. I am actually concerned the squats are not hitting my quads enough. We have all seen people doing massive squats with no leg development
I will say this since I started squatting again my appetite and weight have increased
High reps,narrow stance,feet straight forward,slightly below paralell....this finally put a bit of muscle on my skinny legs.
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I read many times that the squat is the best all around exercise a person can do. I think you have to do some additional exercises if you have hard to develop quads.
When on long drives and I have to stop for gas, I jump out of the car and do a couple of sets of bodyweight squats. I always feel invigorated afterwards.
-Can't give advice on developing big muscular quads because I've never managed to develop them. The biggest they've ever been, if I remember correctly, was 26" and that was when I weighed 225 lbs.
Leg extensions are fun because you can see all the cuts in your quads while doing them. I'm not sure they do much for growing them.
We have all read that but squats also used to be the only option. Dorian did not due squats and had massive legs he felt leg press and hack squats suited his structure better. Honestly my quads seem to grow better from leg extensions than presses or squats but will give it a couple weeks always good to switch things up.
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We have all read that but squats also used to be the only option. Dorian did not due squats and had massive legs he felt leg press and hack squats suited his structure better. Honestly my quads seem to grow better from leg extensions than presses or squats but will give it a couple weeks always good to switch things up.
Dorian built his initial size with squats then later abandoned them for Leg Presses etc.
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Dorian built his initial size with squats then later abandoned them for Leg Presses etc.
Yes. He said he built his foundation with squats but they aggravated a back injury so he switched to leg press and smith machine squats.
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Yes. He said he built his foundation with squats but they aggravated a back injury so he switched to leg press and smith machine squats.
It was a bad hip. I think he had surgery on it.
You can get the quads much closer to failure with angled leg presses for example, compared to squats. You are stable and locked in and it's not your back or whatever that fails like with squats.
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Hey Prime what are these long rides you’re referring too? I thought, based on your car’s mileage, you average less than 6000 miles of driving a year?
Those long rides are ancient history. When the kids were young and we still had family in L.A. we would drive down to visit every few years. The Mazda has less than 30,000 miles on it in 5 1/2 years. So yeah, less than 6,000 a year on average. Since 'COVID' happened, my business meetings are held using Zoom. There are days when the car never leaves the garage. I should probably look into getting my auto insurance lowered since I drive so little.
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It was a bad hip. I think he had surgery on it.
You can get the quads much closer to failure with angled leg presses for example, compared to squats. You are stable and locked in and it's not your back or whatever that fails like with squats.
There are many ways to do squats each has both pros and cons. I like doing 'chair' squats using a low stool so I barely break parallel. Some people say this can hurt your back. This is true if you bounce off the chair or stool, not if you barely touch it.