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Title: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2022, 06:20:33 PM
…lol


https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/durham-says-clinton-campaign-hired-techs-infiltrate-trump-servers
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2022, 06:28:53 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZ5lyu2r4Vq/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 12, 2022, 07:17:12 PM
…lol


https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/durham-says-clinton-campaign-hired-techs-infiltrate-trump-servers


More bullshit from fringe site wackos
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2022, 07:17:32 PM
Hey fuckhead Strawman….this is treason


Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2022, 07:18:04 PM

More bullshit from fringe site wackos

Not even close to a “fringe” site

Vince, you need to actually start learning to research. This is isn’t the only site reporting this but it is one of the most reliable
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 12, 2022, 10:52:05 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/02/12/john-durham-filing-suggests-clinton-operatives-spied-on-trump-in-2016-and-in-white-house/
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 13, 2022, 05:33:13 AM
Was this when the microwaves were spying on him or when the chinese thermostats were changing the voting results?

Hard to keep track of the Trumpturd bullshit conspiracy theories and lies.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Gym-Rat on February 13, 2022, 07:35:08 AM
they all spy on each other im sure.
if anyone doesnt think so, youre truly braindead
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Grape Ape on February 13, 2022, 07:42:00 AM
This was legit filed by Durham.

I wonder when the TDS fog will clear and this will actually bother people, regardless of political party affiliation.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2022, 08:22:48 AM
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Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: chaos on February 13, 2022, 08:28:47 AM
This was legit filed by Durham.

I wonder when the TDS fog will clear and this will actually bother people, regardless of political party affiliation.
One side and the media apparently doesn't care about it as long as they are in charge.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2022, 08:43:44 AM
One side and the media apparently doesn't care about it as long as they are in charge.

There are even some people who think they stopped investigating her 🤔
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 13, 2022, 11:21:53 AM
Hey fuckhead Strawman….this is treason

this is treason

Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 13, 2022, 11:51:17 AM
this is treason



Gtfo.   He said this in jest.   Hillary actually did it. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 13, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
kip to comments.

Hillary Clinton 2016 tweets show campaign pushing now-debunked Trump-Russia claims
fox ^
Posted on 2/13/2022, 3:13:20 PM by janetjanet998

FIRST ON FOX: Unearthed Hillary Clinton tweets from days before the 2016 presidential election show the candidate pushing now-debunked information that Donald Trump was using a "covert sever" linking him to Russia. Just a day after Fox News first reported that Special Counsel John Durham alleged that lawyers from her campaign had paid to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Trump to Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2022, 04:05:53 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-october-tweets-resurfaced
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2022, 06:16:45 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/02/13/most-democrats-want-hillary-clinton-investigated-for-any-role-in-russiagate-scandal-poll/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=com.duckduckgo.mobile.ios.OpenAction2
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: gcb on February 13, 2022, 08:01:37 PM
Not even close to a “fring” site

Vince, you need to actually start learning to research. This is isn’t the only site reporting this but it is one of the most reliable

The site was started by a trumptard - the fringe is back!!!
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2022, 08:32:13 PM
The site was started by a trumptard - the fringe is back!!!

Yeah, but unlike communist propaganda rags like the leftist sites are, these are actual journalists
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 12:56:09 AM
The site was started by a trumptard - the fringe is back!!!

It was in a court filing by the special prosecutor Durham
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 14, 2022, 01:47:09 AM
Gtfo.   He said this in jest.   Hillary actually did it.
Liberals are too stupid to realize the obvious.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 05:23:04 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10509123/More-Democrats-want-Hillary-Clinton-investigated-amid-bombshell-report.html


Straw = OWNED
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 06:06:48 AM
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 06:08:50 AM
Durham Report: Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers
Newsmax ^ | February 12, 2022 | Luca Cacciatore
Posted on 2/13/2022, 11:22:17


A filing from Justice Department special counsel John Durham says Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" Trump Tower servers, and later the White House, Fox News reports.

Durham in a motion filed Feb. 11 said the purpose of the infiltration was to establish a "narrative" of collusion between then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russia.

Durham, appointed by then-Attorney General William Barr to lead a review into the Russia investigation, made the claim in his investigation that brought charges against an FBI attorney and former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman, who is currently charged with making a false statement to a federal agent.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 07:08:11 AM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/yes-hillary-clinton-spied-on-donald-trump-while-he-was-president

Unbelievable that these pos are still walking. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 14, 2022, 08:15:02 AM
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Grape Ape on February 14, 2022, 08:45:34 AM
Nothing ever happens with this stuff.

Would be nice if there was accountability and/or punishment where deserved.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 14, 2022, 11:10:20 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10509123/More-Democrats-want-Hillary-Clinton-investigated-amid-bombshell-report.html


Straw = OWNED

LOL - what's stopping Durham from subpoenaing Clinton

Has he convicted anyone yet?
 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 14, 2022, 12:02:22 PM
LOL - what's stopping Durham from subpoenaing Clinton

Has he convicted anyone yet?

It’s not his job to convict anyone, genius
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 14, 2022, 01:08:07 PM
It’s not his job to convict anyone, genius

how many indictments
how many guilty pleas
how many convictions

BTW - how long has this fishing trip been going on now

for comparison

https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 14, 2022, 06:16:32 PM
Hahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 14, 2022, 06:19:15 PM
A new court filing from Special Counsel John Durham from this past weekend revealed Perkins Coie allies connected to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign spied on Trump’s internet traffic – WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT. According to Durham, tech expert Donald Joffe and his associates exploited internet data from “the Executive Office of the President of the United States” to further their own political agenda. Durham investigators uncovered evidence that shows Hillary Clinton’s team paid operatives to “infiltrate” the Trump Tower and then President Trump’s White House servers to link Trump to Russia.

On Monday FOX News reported that more people are cooperating and coming before the grand jury in the Durham probe. According to FOX News, Former FBI General Counsel James Baker, FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Bill Priestap, and General Counsel to the Clinton Campaign, creepy Marc Elias, have already been called before the Durham Grand Jury.

Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation has “accelerated,” and more people are “cooperating” and coming before the federal grand jury than has previously been reported, a source familiar with the probe told Fox News.


The source told Fox News Monday that Durham has run his investigation “very professionally,” and, unlike Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, his activities, and witness information and cooperation status are rarely, if ever, leaked.

“Durham does this right and keeps it a secret,” the source said, adding that there has been “much more activity” in Durham’s investigation “than has been visible to the public.”

The closest look Durham has given with regard to grand jury witnesses came in a federal court filing last month, outlining materials that had been provided by the special counsel’s office to defense attorneys for former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann.

Sussmann has been charged making a false statement to a federal agent. Sussmann has pleaded not guilty…

…Durham lists a number of individuals, including “the above-referenced former FBI General Counsel,” which could be a reference to James Baker, who served as FBI general counsel from January 2014 until May 2018. Fox News reported in October that Durham had plans to call Baker to testify in the case against Sussmann.

The indictment against Sussmann, says he told then-FBI General Counsel James Baker in September 2016, less than two months before the 2016 presidential election, that he was not doing work “for any client” when he requested and held a meeting in which he presented “purported data and ‘white papers’ that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel” between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, which has ties to the Kremlin…

…Durham also provided grand jury testimony from “the above-referenced former FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence.” It is unclear to which official Durham is referring, but the title could be a reference to Bill Priestap, who served as the FBI’s assistant director for counterintelligence from 2015 to 2018…

Durham, in the filing, also lists testimony from “the attorney previously employed by Law Firm-1 who is referred to in the Indictment as ‘Campaign Lawyer-1.’” It is unclear to whom Durham is referring.

However, in a separate Durham filing on Feb. 11, the special counsel states that “Campaign Lawyer-1” was “serving as General Counsel to the Clinton Campaign.” Three sources told Fox News that individual is Marc Elias, who served as general counsel to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign, and worked at the law firm Perkins Coie.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/breaking-durham-probe-accelerates-people-cooperating-coming-grand-jury-bill-priestap-james-baker-dirty-marc-elias-mentioned/

Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 14, 2022, 07:07:55 PM
Something only really comes of this if the news outlets pick it up and run with it. Without public concern, there will be no push to follow up and indict anybody in relation to this. It’s pretty disgusting if true.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 09:08:50 AM
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 09:45:32 AM
'I can't speak to that': Biden's Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre tells reporter THREE times to go to the DOJ when pressed on Durham's bombshell allegations Hillary spied on Trump when he was president and Biden knew about it
Daily Mail ^ | 2/14/22 | Rob Crilly, Katelyn Caralle
Posted on 2/15/2022, 5:33:21 AM by


The White House on Monday refused to be drawn into the growing controversy over claims that Hillary Clinton's allies tried to smear Donald Trump, and whether internet data collection amounted to spying.

Three times Joe Biden's principal deputy press secretary was asked whether the president had any concerns about campaigns hacking into opponents' computer systems to gather dirt.

And three times during the White House daily briefing Karine Jean-Pierre referred all questions to the Department of Justice.

The tussle followed a new legal filing in Special Counsel John Durham's probe into the origins of the Russia investigation. It alleged that a tech executive, linked to Clinton's 2016 campaign, gained access to internet traffic at Trump Tower and the White House with the intention of collecting dirt on Trump.

Trump allies quickly cited it as proof of the former president's claim he was being illegally spied on and that the Russian collusion tale was a hoax.

The issue was raised at the White House briefing.

Jacqui Heinrich, of Fox News, asked: 'Does the president have any concerns about a candidate for president using computer experts to infiltrate computer systems of competing candidates - or even the president-elect - for the goal of creating a narrative ... Is that something ...'

Jean-Pierre cut her off, saying: 'That's something I can't speak to from this podium so I refer you to the Department of Justice.'

Heinrich tried again: 'Is what's been described in that report, monitoring internet traffic, is that spying?'

'Again I can't speak to that report. I refer you to the Department of Justice,' came the response.

Heinrich broadened her question, saying: 'Generally speaking though, would monitoring internet traffic...'

'Jacqui, my answer's not going to change,' said Jean-Pierre. 'I refer you to Department of Justice. I can't speak for that...'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 09:57:50 AM
Clinton cornered: Hillary refuses to answer questions about Durham revelation she paid to spy on the Trump campaign as she arrives at daughter Chelsea's Manhattan home ahead of the New York Democratic Convention
Daily Mail ^ | 2/15/2022 | Laura Collins
Posted on 2/15/2022, 12:28:52 PM by marcusmaximus

Hillary Clinton refused to answer questions about allegations that her allies spied on the Trump campaign as the controversy continued to engulf her Tuesday.

Exclusive pictures and video obtained by DailyMail.com show a stoney faced Clinton silently waving away repeated questions of whether she spied on Donald Trump.

She refused to say when or if she planned to comment. Clinton was arriving at her daughter Chelsea’s Manhattan apartment mid morning.

Wearing a blue coat and black pants, she looked strained behind her black face mask as she stoically ran the gauntlet of questions.

The former first lady and secretary of state is slated as the keynote speaker at Thursday's New York state Democratic convention.

It comes after a Friday court filing by Special Counsel John Durham which alleged Clinton's 2016 campaign paid a tech firm to infiltrate Trump Tower servers and later White House servers in a bid to establish a link between Trump and Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 12:02:10 PM
'I can't speak to that': Biden's Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre tells reporter THREE times to go to the DOJ when pressed on Durham's bombshell allegations Hillary spied on Trump when he was president and Biden knew about it
Daily Mail ^ | 2/14/22 | Rob Crilly, Katelyn Caralle
Posted on 2/15/2022, 5:33:21 AM by


The White House on Monday refused to be drawn into the growing controversy over claims that Hillary Clinton's allies tried to smear Donald Trump, and whether internet data collection amounted to spying.

Three times Joe Biden's principal deputy press secretary was asked whether the president had any concerns about campaigns hacking into opponents' computer systems to gather dirt.

And three times during the White House daily briefing Karine Jean-Pierre referred all questions to the Department of Justice.

The tussle followed a new legal filing in Special Counsel John Durham's probe into the origins of the Russia investigation. It alleged that a tech executive, linked to Clinton's 2016 campaign, gained access to internet traffic at Trump Tower and the White House with the intention of collecting dirt on Trump.

Trump allies quickly cited it as proof of the former president's claim he was being illegally spied on and that the Russian collusion tale was a hoax.

The issue was raised at the White House briefing.

Jacqui Heinrich, of Fox News, asked: 'Does the president have any concerns about a candidate for president using computer experts to infiltrate computer systems of competing candidates - or even the president-elect - for the goal of creating a narrative ... Is that something ...'

Jean-Pierre cut her off, saying: 'That's something I can't speak to from this podium so I refer you to the Department of Justice.'

Heinrich tried again: 'Is what's been described in that report, monitoring internet traffic, is that spying?'

'Again I can't speak to that report. I refer you to the Department of Justice,' came the response.

Heinrich broadened her question, saying: 'Generally speaking though, would monitoring internet traffic...'

'Jacqui, my answer's not going to change,' said Jean-Pierre. 'I refer you to Department of Justice. I can't speak for that...'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

BFD

The Executive Branch should not be commenting on ongoing investigations by DOJ. They aren't supposed to be involved with DOJ.

I know everyone forgot that when THE TRAITOR was POTUS because he used OUR DOJ as if they were his own personal lawyers

You're supposed to be an attorney ...right?
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 12:04:21 PM
BFD

The Executive Branch should not be commenting on ongoing investigations by DOJ. They aren't supposed to be involved with DOJ.

I know everyone forgot that when THE TRAITOR was POTUS because he used OUR DOJ as if they were his own personal lawyers

You're supposed to be an attorney ...right?

You clearly are behind the times and not informed on this story whatsoever.   There are indications that HillCUNT told Biden and Ofagget of her plan via Brennan. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 15, 2022, 12:16:00 PM
You clearly are behind the times and not informed on this story whatsoever.   There are indications that HillCUNT told Biden and Ofagget of her plan via Brennan.
Straw will support Hillary no matter what evidence is presented.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 12:23:48 PM
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 12:34:55 PM
You clearly are behind the times and not informed on this story whatsoever.   There are indications that HillCUNT told Biden and Ofagget of her plan via Brennan.

Nice job completely avoiding responding to my comment

Soultard

Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 12:37:20 PM
Nice job completely avoiding responding to my comment

Soultard

This DOJ is not going to investigate this because it will bring down all the Dems. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 12:53:56 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/02/15/gabbard-clinton-campaign-russian-collusion-lie-has-done-immeasurable-damage-they-need-to-be-held-accountable/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0DGnWgC1xFcc6p6d_1ODRO_TwK4a0PS39feDmsttK2qXlAAFC7KcPwofw


Tulsi yet again slamming that corrupt dirtbag and evil witch Hillary to the mat. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 01:28:11 PM
Straw will support Hillary no matter what evidence is presented.

let me know when she is indicted or even subpoenaed

Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 01:29:53 PM
This DOJ is not going to investigate this because it will bring down all the Dems.

I assume you're fine with Trump pardoning Flynn, Bannon, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort

right?

So if Hilary or anyone around her broke the law and Biden pardoned them you'd be fine with that too...right?
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 01:34:00 PM
I assume you're fine with Trump pardoning Flynn, Bannon, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort

right?

So if Hilary or anyone around her broke the law and Biden pardoned them you'd be fine with that too...right?

They did nothing even close to what Hillary did.   Not even remotely close. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2022, 01:37:48 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/biden-spox-repeatedly-dodges-questions-durham-filing-revealing-hillary-clinton-paid-tech-team-spy-trumps-internet-traffic-video/
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2022, 01:39:24 PM
They did nothing even close to what Hillary did.   Not even remotely close.

I keep saying that straw has no idea what treason is but likes to just throw the word around.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 01:41:03 PM
Biden Campaign Also Had Internet Company Allegedly Connected to Durham Probe on the Payroll
Red State.com ^ | February 15, 2022 | Nick Arama
Posted on 2/15/2022, 4:08:54 PM by


We reported earlier on some of the Biden connections to the Durham probe, including DNI John Ratcliffe confirming that Joe Biden had been told about the plan from the Clinton campaign to smear Donald Trump.

But, there’s another intriguing piece of information that the Free Beacon just dropped — that in 2020, the Biden campaign also paid the same internet company being talked about concerning the Durham probe.

The Biden campaign paid nearly $20,000 to a cybersecurity firm at the center of Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe.

The campaign paid Neustar Information Services in 2020 for accounting and compliance work, according to Federal Election Commission records. According to Durham, Neustar’s chief technology officer, Rodney Joffe, accessed sensitive web traffic data that the company maintained on behalf of the White House executive office to collect “derogatory” information about Donald Trump. Joffe allegedly provided the information to Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann, who in turn gave it to the CIA during a meeting in February 2017. Durham charged Sussmann in September with lying to the FBI about his investigation of Trump.

That raises the question: was the same action going on against Trump in 2020?

The Biden and Clinton campaigns are the only two presidential committees to have ever paid Neustar, according to Federal Election Commission records. Biden’s campaign paid Neustar $18,819 on Sept. 29, 2020, the records show. The Clinton campaign paid the firm $3,000 in May 2015 for mobile phone services. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee paid $3,000 to Neustar in 2017. Neustar executives and staffers contributed $17,906 to Biden’s campaign, FEC records show.
Now, it should be noted that Durham hasn’t accused Neustar or Joffe of having done anything illegal. What has been alleged is that Joffe collected the data to find derogatory information to provide to the Clinton team that could then be used against Trump to please people in the campaign, and that he thought he might get a job in a Clinton Administration. While Neustar and Joffe were not named in the Durham filing, Joffe’s attorney has confirmed his involvement.

The Free Beacon queried the White House about this information and what was going on with this payment. The White House referred them to the DNC — and that says a lot right there.

Why can’t the White House simply answer the question, and if it’s an innocent campaign use, no problem? But given what allegedly went on with the Clinton campaign, it raises all kinds of flags as to what was going on here. The “derogatory information” – such as the debunked Alfa Bank smear – was then allegedly fed to media and to the FBI by the Clinton people. So, it wasn’t just the surveillance, it was the alleged effort to spread that information to hurt Trump, even using the power of the government against him by giving information to the FBI. Sussman is charged with lying to FBI general counsel James Baker by denying he was looking into Trump at the behest of the Clinton campaign.

So, here’s another question that media needs to be put to Biden himself — and they should not let him dodge it.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 02:05:13 PM
I keep saying that straw has no idea what treason is but likes to just throw the word around.

THE TRAITOR has repeatedly violated his oath of office

He's done this many many times, often on camera
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 02:09:23 PM
It will be fun watching this Durham fishing expedition go nowhere

It's been about 18 months and he doesn't have one conviction

The entire Mueller investigation took ~ 22 months and Trumptards called it a witch hunt from day 1 (and it caught a lot of witches)

BTW - the truth about the recent right wing spin is already coming out

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/durham-accused-of-stoking-trumpy-conspiracy-theories-in-blistering-counterattack-by-target-of-his-probe
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
It will be fun watching this Durham fishing expedition go nowhere

It's been about 18 months and he doesn't have one conviction

The entire Mueller investigation took ~ 22 months and Trumptards called it a witch hunt from day 1 (and it caught a lot of witches)

BTW - the truth about the recent right wing spin is already coming out

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/durham-accused-of-stoking-trumpy-conspiracy-theories-in-blistering-counterattack-by-target-of-his-probe

lol
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
THE TRAITOR has repeatedly violated his oath of office

He's done this many many times, often on camera

And Biden? (Or any of his administration) for the record you still don’t know what it means
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 02:53:02 PM
Did you read what you posted ? 


It will be fun watching this Durham fishing expedition go nowhere

It's been about 18 months and he doesn't have one conviction

The entire Mueller investigation took ~ 22 months and Trumptards called it a witch hunt from day 1 (and it caught a lot of witches)

BTW - the truth about the recent right wing spin is already coming out

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/durham-accused-of-stoking-trumpy-conspiracy-theories-in-blistering-counterattack-by-target-of-his-probe
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 03:26:00 PM
Did you read what you posted ?

yep, did you

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Conservative media and the Trump family seized upon the allegation to dust off a familiar refrain: that the Obama administration and/or the Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign had “spied” on Trump during or after the election.

Durham did not specify in the filing under what administration the alleged “gathering” by the tech executive — identified by the New York Times and others as Rodney Joffe — took place. But the narrative seemed to tee up a conclusion that conservative outlets quickly leapt to: that the White House had been monitored during the Trump administration.

This led to an outpouring of rage on the right, which cast the filing as proof that Trump was right about the spying allegations all along.

Kash Patel, the former Devin Nunes operative, said that Durham had revealed a plan to “infiltrate” Trump Tower and the White House. Fox News used that quote to headline an article claiming that the filing demonstrated that the Clinton campaign masterminded the effort.

Per Sussmann’s and Joffe’s attorneys, that is not true.

“The Special Counsel is well aware that the data provided to Agency-2 pertained only to the period of time before Mr. Trump took office, when Barack Obama was President,” reads the filing from Sussmann. (Agency-2 is widely reported to be the CIA, to which Durham alleged Sussmann relayed Joffe’s findings.)

Joffe’s attorneys separately told the New York Times that Joffe only examined data from the Executive Office of the President while Obama was in office, and that it was part of an attempt to see whether there was malware on White House servers — a job for which he had been hired.


Sussmann’s attorneys added that Durham didn’t allege anything to do with the supposed spying scheme in the initial indictment, and questioned how it was relevant to the case.

“Sadly, the Special Counsel seems to be succeeding in his effort to instigate unfair and prejudicial media coverage of Mr. Sussmann’s case,” the filing reads. “Indeed, since the Motion was filed, numerous outlets published stories suggesting that the Special Counsel’s latest filing revealed a vast conspiracy involving Mr. Sussmann and the Clinton Campaign.”
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2022, 03:50:57 PM
Joe knew. Jake made sure of it
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-15-22 | DrJohn
Posted on 2/15/2022, 6:44:16 PM by Starman417



It’s said that you take flak when you’re over target.

It’s all hands on deck for democrats as John Durham continues his pursuit of the truth about Hillary Clinton paying operatives to hack Trump servers in the Trump Tower and in the White House itself. The NY Times is manning one of the guns, once again trying to push the BS Russian collusion allegation.  Joe Scarborough is panicking, saying Fox News is lying about the Clinton spying. democrats, who know better than anyone how to concoct and spread a false narrative, are once again complaining that the Durham investigation is politically motivated.

Here’s one more thing for them to whine about. Joe Biden knew. It came up yesterday in a White House briefing:

The White House on Monday refused to be drawn into the growing controversy over claims that Hillary Clinton‘s allies tried to smear Donald Trump, and whether internet data collection amounted to spying.

Three times Joe Biden‘s principal deputy press secretary was asked whether the president had any concerns about campaigns hacking into opponents’ computer systems to gather dirt.

And three times during the White House daily briefing Karine Jean-Pierre referred all questions to the Department of Justice.

Of course she did. Biden knew.
Joe Biden was present in the infamous January 5 meeting in the Oval Office when the trap for Trump was set. As it so typical of democrats, Rice’s constant harping on “by the book” means it was anything but by the book. It took the one honest man in the obama White House- Admiral Mike Rogers– to warn Trump that he was being spied upon. Trump then moved his campaign out of Trump Towers and to New Jersey. Little did he expect that Hillary Clinton would be so malevolent as to hire a cyber firm to hack into the servers of the White House.

But there is a nexus between Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden- Jake Sullivan.

Sullivan worked in the Obama administration as Deputy Assistant to the President and the vice president’s National Security Advisor, when Biden was U.S. Vice President. He also served as the Director of Policy Planning at the Department of State.
The arrogant pasty-faced little Ivy League boy inserted himself into a big-time game- falsely undermining the President of the United States. Sullivan was a senior policy advisor to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and he played a direct and significant role in the Russian Alfa Bank hoax.
It was disclosed that Sullivan was passing emails with Marc Elias just before Sussman gave the FBI the phony assertions about Trump’s alleged involvement with Alfa Bank and the Russians.

One of those campaign agents was Sullivan, according to emails that special counsel John Durham obtained. On Sept. 15, 2016 — just four days before Sussmann handed off the materials to the FBI — Marc Elias, Sussmann’s law partner and fellow Democratic Party operative, “exchanged emails with the Clinton campaign’s foreign policy adviser concerning the Russian bank allegations,” as well as with other top campaign officials, the indictment states.
Sullivan then went on CNN to spread the lies
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 15, 2022, 04:40:43 PM
Joe knew. Jake made sure of it
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-15-22 | DrJohn
Posted on 2/15/2022, 6:44:16 PM by Starman417



It’s said that you take flak when you’re over target.

It’s all hands on deck for democrats as John Durham continues his pursuit of the truth about Hillary Clinton paying operatives to hack Trump servers in the Trump Tower and in the White House itself. The NY Times is manning one of the guns, once again trying to push the BS Russian collusion allegation.  Joe Scarborough is panicking, saying Fox News is lying about the Clinton spying. democrats, who know better than anyone how to concoct and spread a false narrative, are once again complaining that the Durham investigation is politically motivated.

Here’s one more thing for them to whine about. Joe Biden knew. It came up yesterday in a White House briefing:

The White House on Monday refused to be drawn into the growing controversy over claims that Hillary Clinton‘s allies tried to smear Donald Trump, and whether internet data collection amounted to spying.

Three times Joe Biden‘s principal deputy press secretary was asked whether the president had any concerns about campaigns hacking into opponents’ computer systems to gather dirt.

And three times during the White House daily briefing Karine Jean-Pierre referred all questions to the Department of Justice.

Of course she did. Biden knew.
Joe Biden was present in the infamous January 5 meeting in the Oval Office when the trap for Trump was set. As it so typical of democrats, Rice’s constant harping on “by the book” means it was anything but by the book. It took the one honest man in the obama White House- Admiral Mike Rogers– to warn Trump that he was being spied upon. Trump then moved his campaign out of Trump Towers and to New Jersey. Little did he expect that Hillary Clinton would be so malevolent as to hire a cyber firm to hack into the servers of the White House.

But there is a nexus between Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden- Jake Sullivan.

Sullivan worked in the Obama administration as Deputy Assistant to the President and the vice president’s National Security Advisor, when Biden was U.S. Vice President. He also served as the Director of Policy Planning at the Department of State.
The arrogant pasty-faced little Ivy League boy inserted himself into a big-time game- falsely undermining the President of the United States. Sullivan was a senior policy advisor to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and he played a direct and significant role in the Russian Alfa Bank hoax.
It was disclosed that Sullivan was passing emails with Marc Elias just before Sussman gave the FBI the phony assertions about Trump’s alleged involvement with Alfa Bank and the Russians.

One of those campaign agents was Sullivan, according to emails that special counsel John Durham obtained. On Sept. 15, 2016 — just four days before Sussmann handed off the materials to the FBI — Marc Elias, Sussmann’s law partner and fellow Democratic Party operative, “exchanged emails with the Clinton campaign’s foreign policy adviser concerning the Russian bank allegations,” as well as with other top campaign officials, the indictment states.
Sullivan then went on CNN to spread the lies
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


Who gives a shit what DrJohn and Starman417think

Let me know when Durham subpoena's Clinton

 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: chaos on February 15, 2022, 05:36:29 PM
Something only really comes of this if the news outlets pick it up and run with it. Without public concern, there will be no push to follow up and indict anybody in relation to this. It’s pretty disgusting if true.
You're like this little ray of common sense in a pile of trash talk here. ;D
You're right of course, but with the media completely on the liberal side, very doubtful it gets picked up to anything more than a blurb sidenote.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: AbrahamG on February 15, 2022, 07:38:38 PM

Who gives a shit what DrJohn and Starman417think

Let me know when Durham subpoena's Clinton

Durham?  LMFAO!
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2022, 08:07:02 PM
Durham?  LMFAO!

Sussman has already been indicted…not on fake charges
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 16, 2022, 09:11:35 AM
And Biden? (Or any of his administration) for the record you still don’t know what it means

Any proof to Biden doing it?

Hell, any proof that Biden's administration is under investigation of any kind? 
How many of Trumpy's cronies were under investigation after his first in office.   hahhahahahahahahahahahah a
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 16, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
Any proof to Biden doing it?

Hell, any proof that Biden's administration is under investigation of any kind? 
How many of Trumpy's cronies were under investigation after his first in office.   hahhahahahahahahahahahah a

DNI Radcliff already came out and said Biden and Ofag were briefed early on that Hillcunt was going to pull a stunt like this. 
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2022, 07:57:38 AM
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Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 17, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
^^^ hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2022, 11:43:32 AM
Will CNN run 24 hour coverage of this scandal like they did with Russian Collusion and The Insurrection?
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2022, 01:07:24 PM
Will CNN run 24 hour coverage of this scandal like they did with Russian Collusion and The Insurrection?

Durham is not going to subpoena Clinton because no one hacked into Trump's campaign and no one hacked him when he was POTUS either

On the other hand, we know that Clintons campaign WAS HACKED and it happened right after THE TRAITOR publicly asked Russia to do so

BTW - Kind of pathetic how FAUX NEWS barely mentioned the fact that the long time tax firm of a former POTUS revealed last week that they were dropping said former POTUS and that his last ten years of financials should not be relied upon

Seems like kind of a big story

We just found out today that a judge in NYC has said THE TRAITORS idiot spawn need to testify under oath regarding the years of alleged financial fraud of the Trump Orgranization

Does anyone here think they will invoke the 5th more than the 500 times that Eric Trump did when he testified (just in case you idiots missed that story too)

Here's what THE TRAITOR said about people who take the 5th

Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 17, 2022, 01:15:25 PM
Durham is not going to subpoena Clinton because no one hacked into Trump's campaign and no one hacked him when he was POTUS either

On the other hand, we know that Clintons campaign WAS HACKED and it happened right after THE TRAITOR publicly asked Russia to do so

BTW - Kind of pathetic how FAUX NEWS barely mentioned the fact that the long time tax firm of a former POTUS revealed last week that they were dropping said former POTUS and that his last ten years of financials should not be relied upon

Seems like kind of a big story

We just found out today that a judge in NYC has said THE TRAITORS idiot spawn need to testify under oath regarding the years of alleged financial fraud of the Trump Orgranization

Does anyone here think they will invoke the 5th more than the 500 times that Eric Trump did when he testified (just in case you idiots missed that story too)

Here's what THE TRAITOR said about people who take the 5th




HAHAHAHA

Trumpy's attorney wants Trumpy to have immunity from his own testimony.  Imagine that.   :D 

“If she wants sworn testimony from my client, he’s entitled to immunity. He gets immunity for what he says, or he says nothing,” Trump’s criminal defense lawyer, Ronald Fischetti, said in the hearing, which was conducted by video conference.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 17, 2022, 01:29:35 PM
Durham is not going to subpoena Clinton because no one hacked into Trump's campaign and no one hacked him when he was POTUS either

On the other hand, we know that Clintons campaign WAS HACKED and it happened right after THE TRAITOR publicly asked Russia to do so

BTW - Kind of pathetic how FAUX NEWS barely mentioned the fact that the long time tax firm of a former POTUS revealed last week that they were dropping said former POTUS and that his last ten years of financials should not be relied upon

Seems like kind of a big story

We just found out today that a judge in NYC has said THE TRAITORS idiot spawn need to testify under oath regarding the years of alleged financial fraud of the Trump Orgranization

Does anyone here think they will invoke the 5th more than the 500 times that Eric Trump did when he testified (just in case you idiots missed that story too)

Here's what THE TRAITOR said about people who take the 5th



Lololoolololololol Oooo boy
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2022, 01:31:33 PM
Hillary's Campaign Lawyer Attempts to Get Out of Durham Prosecution
Townhall.com ^ | 2/17/2022 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 2/17/2022, 3:44:56


The Hillary Clinton campaign attorney who has been indicted by Special Counsel John Durham for lying to federal investigators filed to have charges dismissed Thursday.

"Attorneys for Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann filed a motion Thursday to dismiss the case against him in Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation, claiming a case of 'extraordinary prosecutorial overreach,'" Fox News reports.

An indictment details the charges against Sussmann, who failed to disclose his work for the Clinton campaign after telling the FBI President Donald Trump was colluding with the Russian government to win the 2016 presidential election. He pleaded not guilty and his attorneys argue his statements to the FBI were not false, but rather a simple tip to the law enforcement agency.

"The defendant is charged in a one-count indictment with making a materially false statement to the FBI, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001 (the 'Indictment'). As set forth in the Indictment, on Sept. 19, 2016 – less than two months before the 2016 U.S. Presidential election – the defendant, a lawyer at a large international law firm ('Law Firm-1') that was then serving as counsel to the Clinton Campaign, met with the FBI General Counsel at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C.," Durham's recent case filing states.

"The defendant provided the FBI General Counsel with purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russia-based bank ('Russian Bank-1')," the filing continues. "The Indictment alleges that the defendant lied in that meeting, falsely stating to the General Counsel that he was not providing the allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client. In fact, the defendant had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including (i) a technology executive ('Tech Executive-1') at a U.S.-based Internet company ('Internet Company- 1'), and (ii) the Clinton Campaign."

MORE..
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2022, 01:43:32 PM
Hillary's Campaign Lawyer Attempts to Get Out of Durham Prosecution
Townhall.com ^ | 2/17/2022 | Katie Pavlich
Posted on 2/17/2022, 3:44:56


The Hillary Clinton campaign attorney who has been indicted by Special Counsel John Durham for lying to federal investigators filed to have charges dismissed Thursday.

"Attorneys for Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann filed a motion Thursday to dismiss the case against him in Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation, claiming a case of 'extraordinary prosecutorial overreach,'" Fox News reports.

An indictment details the charges against Sussmann, who failed to disclose his work for the Clinton campaign after telling the FBI President Donald Trump was colluding with the Russian government to win the 2016 presidential election. He pleaded not guilty and his attorneys argue his statements to the FBI were not false, but rather a simple tip to the law enforcement agency.

"The defendant is charged in a one-count indictment with making a materially false statement to the FBI, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001 (the 'Indictment'). As set forth in the Indictment, on Sept. 19, 2016 – less than two months before the 2016 U.S. Presidential election – the defendant, a lawyer at a large international law firm ('Law Firm-1') that was then serving as counsel to the Clinton Campaign, met with the FBI General Counsel at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C.," Durham's recent case filing states.

"The defendant provided the FBI General Counsel with purported data and 'white papers' that allegedly demonstrated a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and a Russia-based bank ('Russian Bank-1')," the filing continues. "The Indictment alleges that the defendant lied in that meeting, falsely stating to the General Counsel that he was not providing the allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client. In fact, the defendant had assembled and conveyed the allegations to the FBI on behalf of at least two specific clients, including (i) a technology executive ('Tech Executive-1') at a U.S.-based Internet company ('Internet Company- 1'), and (ii) the Clinton Campaign."

MORE..

Since when do Trumptards think lying to the FBI is a crime

If he's convicted (which is unlikely) I assume Trumptards would be fine if Biden pardoned him like THE TRAITOR did for Mike Flynn (who actually pleaded guilty)

You guys would be fine with that...right?
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 17, 2022, 01:43:55 PM
Can't wait to see the incoming tweet storm from Trumpy over this.

Oh wait....   he can't tweet.  hahahahaha

Maybe he will post on his social media site.

Oh wait.... he doesn't have one yet.  Missed that November project date huh.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2022, 02:42:43 PM
Lololoolololololol Oooo boy
Straw still doesn't get the joke. The dumbass actually thinks Trump was asking Russia about her emails for real.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 17, 2022, 05:45:30 PM
You're like this little ray of common sense in a pile of trash talk here. ;D
You're right of course, but with the media completely on the liberal side, very doubtful it gets picked up to anything more than a blurb sidenote.

It’s the cynic in me. Glass is always half empty in these situations.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2022, 06:19:29 PM
Straw still doesn't get the joke. The dumbass actually thinks Trump was asking Russia about her emails for real.

Every time THE TRAITOR wants to disavow something he's said he tries to claim it was a joke

It's his "go to" move and idiots like you believe him

The very day that THE TRAITOR made that request is when Russia agents first attempted to hack Clinton's campaign

I guess you've forgotten that Mueller indicted 12 Russians for hacking the DNC

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/12-russian-intel-officers-indicted-dnc-hacking-mueller/story?id=56564708

Dumbass
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: chaos on February 17, 2022, 06:31:10 PM
No threads on how amazing Biden is doing?
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 18, 2022, 02:54:43 AM
Every time THE TRAITOR wants to disavow something he's said he tries to claim it was a joke

It's his "go to" move and idiots like you believe him

The very day that THE TRAITOR made that request is when Russia agents first attempted to hack Clinton's campaign

I guess you've forgotten that Mueller indicted 12 Russians for hacking the DNC

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/12-russian-intel-officers-indicted-dnc-hacking-mueller/story?id=56564708

Dumbass
My god you are stupid.
Title: Re: Durham alleges Clinton campaign hired techs to 'infiltrate' Trump servers
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2022, 09:25:36 AM
Former Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann engaged in “political deceit” during his contacts with the FBI and deprived agents of critical information that could have influenced the course of the Russia probe, Special Counsel John Durham declared in a new filing asking a court not to dismiss his criminal case.

Sussmann recently asked the trial judge to dismiss a charge of lying to the FBI, arguing his alleged false statement to the FBI was not material to the case and was protected by the First Amendment. The lawyer is accused of lying to the FBI when he claimed he was not working on behalf of any clients when he delivered dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump to the FBI general counsel alleging the GOP nominee had a secret computer channel to the Kremlin.

In fact, FBI agents found no evidence that the computer channel existed, and Sussmann was in fact working on behalf of the Clinton campaign and a computer executive aligned with the campaign when he approached the FBI, his indictment last fall alleged.

Durham responded Friday with a sweeping rebuke of Sussmann’s conduct in 2016 and 2017, saying as a former Justice Deparyment lawyer he knew that giving false information to the FBI undercut the tenets of the legal system.

"Far from finding himself in the vulnerable position of an ordinary person whose speech is likely to be chilled, the defendant – a sophisticated and well-connected lawyer – chose to bring politically-charged allegations to the FBI’s chief legal officer at the height of an election season,” Durham wrote the judge.

He then chose to lie about the clients who were behind those allegations. Using such rare access to the halls of power for the purposes of political deceit is hardly the type of speech that the Founders intended to protect,” he added. “The Court should therefore reject defendant’s invitation to expand the scope of the First Amendment to protect such conduct.”

You can read the full court filing here.

File
 SussmannFiling.pdf
Durham also revealed that he plans to deliver testimony at trial from FBI and government witnesses that Sussmann’s false statement was material and relevant and could have influenced the course of the Russia collusion case.

“The expected testimony of multiple government witnesses will refute the defendant’s argument that the defendant’s false statement was immaterial,” Durham wrote. “As noted above, the government expects that current and former FBI employees will testify at trial that understanding the origins of data and information is relevant to the FBI in multiple ways, including to assess the reliability and motivations of the source.

None of this is novel. An evaluation of a source can (and often does) influence the FBI’s decisions regarding its initial opening decisions and subsequent investigative steps. That alone is sufficient to establish materiality.”

You can read Sussmann's indictment here.


https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/durham-says-clinton-lawyer-engaged-political-deceit-when