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Rape. Murder. Or even shoplifting. Isn't it all a form of cowardice? Can anyone think of a circumstance where committing a crime would not be cowardly?
Keep in mind John Locke and Natural Law, which is in essence the basis for our Country.
Can you commit a crime and not be a coward? Morally? Legally?
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Can you commit a crime and not be a coward? Morally?
Yes.
I called the police in my city and asked what law I would be breaking by not showing proof of vaccination status at the gym.
They told I would be "trespassed as an unwanted person".
Lol.
In other words - NO LAW.
Medical information is protected both federally AND provincially here in Ontario.
So I told them that between April 2st and May 1st, I will be going to my gym again. Without proof of vaccination. On camera. No QR CODE.
How is that a crime? How is that cowardice?
The cowards are the ones tolerating this, IMO.
Also, how is steroid selling or any drug selling a form of cowardice? That's just consenting adult activity.
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Rape. Murder. Or even shoplifting. Isn't it all a form of cowardice? Can anyone think of a circumstance where committing a crime would not be cowardly?
Keep in mind John Locke and Natural Law, which is in essence the basis for our Country.
Can you commit a crime and not be a coward? Morally? Legally?
Doing something knowing you could suffer serius consequences if caught takes guts in my book
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Never committed a crime in my life....I`ve got some very inexpensive ocean front property for sale in Arizona also if anyone is interested. ;D
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Doing something knowing you could suffer serius consequences if caught takes guts in my book
This x2, IMO.
I'd have to look more into Aaron Singerman's case, but I'm impressed that he built a massive empire like that.
Deceptive labeling is wrong though - but what's wrong with selling roids? How is that in itself immoral?
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This is a bit of a mess of a question. And why are you leaning so heavily on Locke? Not that he was some sort of oracle (e.g. in regard to empiricism and the nature of knowledge), but much of what he wrote on this was in support of challenging authority.
It's been a while and I'm trying to sunbathe, but let me attempt to sum up how I read him: in regard to natural law, Locke's grounding of morality is ambiguous and, some argue, incoherent based on his empiricist works, but I think I would express it along the lines of God's commands are morally obligatory, and one can come to know them, with certainty, through reason. Law, then, is an extension of this and is binding by virtue of it being grounded in God.
In regard to government, then, legitimate government is limited and grounded in the consent of its citizens. When governments act against natural rights (stemming from natural law), one is justified in opposing them. Would you be a coward if you stole food from the state in order to distribute it more equitably among a starving population? Would you be a coward if you murdered a genocidal leader in order to prevent him from wiping out a percentage of his citizens? I doubt Locke would think so.
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we can always ask the 2 biggest criminals
walking bumbling around today
The Life and Crimes of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden that the mainstream media doesn’t want you to read
https://www.opindia.com/2020/11/joe-hunter-biden-disk-corruption-china/
The Billion Dollar investment
Two weeks after Biden’s official trip as VP to China with Hunter in 2013, China invested 1.5 billion dollars (initially 1 billion) into Hunter Biden’s firm (Rosemont Seneca private equity)! Joe Biden went to China to discuss the China takeover & military buildup on the South China Sea Islands and high tariffs for American businesses. While little progress was made on those, his son was rewarded handsomely.
The Three Amigos
Soon after Obama Presidency started in 2009, VP Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden, Secretary of State John Kerry’s stepson Chris Heinz, Chris friend Devon Archer together formed a company called ‘Rosemont Seneca Partners’, that was the centerpiece of the corruption selling US interests to China and many other countries. Devon Archer was convicted of stealing from the financial interests of US Native American tribes.
Russian oligarch (widow of Moscow Mayor and friend of Putin) wire transferred 3.5 million dollars to Hunter Biden in 2014 [7].
Brotherly Love
James Biden, brother of Joe Biden secured a 1.5 billion dollar US Government contract (i.e., taxpayers money) to build homes in Iraq from the US in 2010 (for a company that hired him even though he has zero experience in real estate). China financed a $100,000 global spending spree for James Biden and his wife (per Senate Committee report).
Secretary of State John Kerry sold US Government access to his stepson, Chris Heinz, helping China steal US technologies while enriching themselves.
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Stupid question does jaywalking or speeding make someone an immoral coward?? Fucking nonsense
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To commit a crime actually takes a lot of balls, psychopaths commit crimes because they lack fear, they don't sense fear like most people do, also they lack empathy
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To commit a crime actually takes a lot of balls, psychopaths commit crimes because they lack fear, they don't sense fear like most people do, also they lack empathy
Brutal if true.
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Never committed a crime in my life....got some very inexpenive ocean front property for sale on Arizona also if anyone is interested. ;D
I wish I had known. I just bought some from this guy named George. He threw in the Golden Gate Bridge at no extra charge.
Just waiting for the deeds to arrive in the mail.
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I wish I had known. I just bought some from this guy named George. He threw in the Golden Gate Bridge at no extra charge.
Just waiting for the deeds to arrive in the mail.
Christ dude, I would have tossed in the Brooklyn Bridge as well for just a small extra charge....PM me next time please. :D
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To commit a crime actually takes a lot of balls, psychopaths commit crimes because they lack fear, they don't sense fear like most people do, also they lack empathy
exactly calling them cowards is just to shame them, they are the opposite of cowards
i think they are called cowards just to insult their manhood, they won't be insulted by calling them "assholes"
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It's funny how authorities, for example US authorities, say such and such terrorist is a coward. Like they finally blow up some terrorist in a tunnel who they say died like coward. This exact scenario happened a few years ago. But it's kind of laughable calling them cowards. Psychopaths, deluded retards yes. But cowards? No. If you plan to die for your cause that isn't cowardly. Disgusting and immoral perhaps.
Was Bin Laden a coward? Was a multimillionaire playboy and gave it all up to live in a cave.
If a criminal isn't a coward they turn themselves in to face the US justice system lol.
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Rape. Murder. Or even shoplifting. Isn't it all a form of cowardice? Can anyone think of a circumstance where committing a crime would not be cowardly?
Keep in mind John Locke and Natural Law, which is in essence the basis for our Country.
Can you commit a crime and not be a coward? Morally? Legally?
Killing the rapist who raped or killed your children is not a crime imho.
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To commit a crime actually takes a lot of balls, psychopaths commit crimes because they lack fear, they don't sense fear like most people do, also they lack empathy
they dont lack fear, they lack the threat of consequences..
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It's funny how authorities, for example US authorities, say such and such terrorist is a coward. Like they finally blow up some terrorist in a tunnel who they say died like coward. This exact scenario happened a few years ago. But it's kind of laughable calling them cowards. Psychopaths, deluded retards yes. But cowards? No. If you plan to die for your cause that isn't cowardly. Disgusting and immoral perhaps.
Was Bin Laden a coward? Was a multimillionaire playboy and gave it all up to live in a cave.
If a criminal isn't a coward they turn themselves in to face the US justice system lol.
I think Bill Maher said something like this after 9/11 and was totally vilified for it.
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Stupid question does jaywalking or speeding make someone an immoral coward?? Fucking nonsense
Yes you are a coward, as many people go find an empty road, or even rent a track and race their expensive, performance cars. Others like you just risk the lives of everyone else on the road, including people taking their kids to school, so you can speed your piece of shit car like a tough guy.
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I think Bill Maher said something like this after 9/11 and was totally vilified for it.
it was one of the few times he was right
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Sure. Sexual assault causing bodily harm
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I wish I had known. I just bought some from this guy named George. He threw in the Golden Gate Bridge at no extra charge.
Just waiting for the deeds to arrive in the mail.
;D
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"And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do
But now I'm back with the facts, givin' it back to you"
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Killing the rapist who raped or killed your children is not a crime imho.
I thought about this scenario when starting the thread, but I think if you get life in prison for murdering a child rapist, and are not there to be a father to your child because you're in prison, you are committing the murder for yourself and your rage and revenge, justified rage, but not necessarily putting the child first if you spend years in prison. A hero knows he must be there for his child.
So you let the rapist be raped in prison for the rest of his life. However if the legal system let's the rapist go, then you murder them. This gets into the whole Locke theory and natural law. Our "laws" are theoretically derived from our god given rights to freedom and justice. And the rights of our kin. But when the legal system fails us. we have a right to enforce natural law.
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To commit a crime actually takes a lot of balls, psychopaths commit crimes because they lack fear, they don't sense fear like most people do, also they lack empathy
Psychopath is a cowardly excuse people use AFTER they get caught. Insanity defense is for pussies. Notice "psychopaths" rarely commit crimes against other bad ass psychopaths. Always women and children. John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, all cowards.
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Brutal if true.
Lmfao
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This is a bit of a mess of a question. And why are you leaning so heavily on Locke?
It is a mess of a question because our Constitution is a mess. It was created by religious people who believed we had GOD given rights. So all of our laws are an extension of our god given rights. Life, liberty, property. However we want separation of church and state.
So now we wonder why we follow laws? If there is no God, there is no natural law, hence my focus on Locke.
Just get what you can, lying is ok, and we are seeing that at the highest levels. We are rotting. As a culture.
Our laws are becoming meaningless because we have no idea of where they originate from. They originate from GOD. That's the founders interpretation.
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It is a mess of a question because our Constitution is a mess. It was created by religious people who believed we had GOD given rights. So all of our laws are an extension of our god given rights. Life, liberty, property. However we want separation of church and state.
So now we wonder why we follow laws? If there is no God, there is no natural law, hence my focus on Locke.
Just get what you can, lying is ok, and we are seeing that at the highest levels. We are rotting. As a culture.
Our laws are becoming meaningless because we have no idea of where they originate from. They originate from GOD. That's the founders interpretation.
Yep. Culture swirling down a toilet bowl. It was fascinated seeing that slow march swirl, now accelerated to the fastest speed possible, to the point that it's just comical.
I told a friend of mine that I should both use gear, and sell it this year - just to get some octane into my life. Of course neither will likely materialize [but time will tell]. My reasoning? My government isn't obeying the - why should I?! Why should ANYONE at this point!?
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It is a mess of a question because our Constitution is a mess. It was created by religious people who believed we had GOD given rights. So all of our laws are an extension of our god given rights. Life, liberty, property. However we want separation of church and state.
So now we wonder why we follow laws? If there is no God, there is no natural law, hence my focus on Locke.
Just get what you can, lying is ok, and we are seeing that at the highest levels. We are rotting. As a culture.
Our laws are becoming meaningless because we have no idea of where they originate from. They originate from GOD. That's the founders interpretation.
I’m still not following on a few things. For example, where does your point about cowardice come into this? And how is that related to Locke? I’ll skip over the part about the Constitution, too.
As to your point about God-given rights, there are different ways of viewing human rights. I doubt anyone would try to seriously argue that they don’t exist in some form; the difficulty is often in how you ground the concept, and how you then take the concept and concretize it in custom and law.
Let’s describe rights succinctly as moral guarantees for a minimum standard of treatment, predicated on an inherent, ‘universal dignity’. They are therefore applicable to all by virtue of what makes us human. Do we need God for this? I don’t think so. You can have both secular and theistic groundings for this, and there are many issues with grounding this moral concept in God (see, e.g. the Euthyphro dilemma). Rights can be grounded in a secular, biological argument – and indeed they have been for hundreds of years.
If you can rationally argue why it is wrong to violate someone’s natural rights, then you can recognise that you have a valid reason not to do it. Do you need to have some sort of cosmic accountability (i.e. God) for it to matter? I’d argue we don’t. This stuff is all still contested, of course, and I’ve not really unpacked it much, but my point is that I don’t really agree that our cultures ‘rot’ without God (or see any evidence for that claim), or that we need a theistic conception of natural rights to respect law. Our laws are derived from a variety of sources.
Psychopath is a cowardly excuse people use AFTER they get caught. Insanity defense is for pussies. Notice "psychopaths" rarely commit crimes against other bad ass psychopaths. Always women and children. John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, all cowards.
Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder that can be studied scientifically. You can be a coward and a psychopath, or either one of them in isolation. A lot of those criminals also have a whole bunch of other fucked up things going on with them, including sadism, etc.
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