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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
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Yeah? Would you fight a bum over one though?
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
Hmm, haven't tried that, but I have ordered a large Coca Cola through McDonald's drive thru before heading to the gym.
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extreme reduction of carbs @Science
Bad diet, high carb low calories is best for bodybuilding..
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Yeah? Would you fight a bum over one though?
At 230lbs of twisted steel, Bhanks would not have to fight anyone over a big mac or even a qp w/cheese let alone a frail old bum.
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QP with cheese is Getbig's preferred McDonalds cheat meal.
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Very extreme......almost a Spartanlike/Shaolin Monk type of regimen.
Quite the inventive hack though.....now try using the Hack Squat Machine.
Imbecile Of Peace
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Yeah? Would you fight a bum over one though?
Depends - surely the amount of dong hanging needs quantifying before anyone can give a serious answer? 🤔
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Depends - surely the amount of dong hanging needs quantifying before anyone can give a serious answer? 🤔
Depends is what he's going to need if he tries to squat 315 for reps after eating that.
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Very extreme......almost a Spartanlike/Shaolin Monk type of regimen.
Quite the inventive hack though.....now try using the Hack Squat Machine.
Imbecile Of Peace
Good advice Wes.
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Depends - surely the amount of dong hanging needs quantifying before anyone can give a serious answer? 🤔
Hahaha woohoo
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Depends is what he's going to need if he tries to squat 315 for reps after eating that.
Took me a quick Google to realise how funny that was! ;D
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
Truly big men would not need to remove any food from that meal in order to stay lean. Especially if the meal was prior to a workout.
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I prefer the Royale w/ cheese
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I prefer the Royale w/ cheese
😃
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McDonald's has the best coffee. I could drink that shit by the gallon. Best pre workout supplement available.
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McDonald's has the best coffee. I could drink that shit by the gallon. Best pre workout supplement available.
No doubt. When they were running the $1 for any sized cup I went there for my morning coffee.
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No doubt. When they were running the $1 for any sized cup I went there for my morning coffee.
I always drink it when traveling. I'll stop 3 times a morning to get a large, pure black coffee. :P
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McDonald's has the best coffee. I could drink that shit by the gallon. Best pre workout supplement available.
X3
The best thing they sell is their coffee.
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the key is to order a Big Mac without the 1000guy sauce aka "cream of sum yum guy"
if you can go without the cream you can be a real man and have abs and your meat too
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
Him? Who you removing? PrimeOsborn?
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
I would have suggested that you just say "no bun" when ordering but then I recalled that your asshole bleeds quite often and surmised that you were out of your anal tampons and needed the buns to absorb the blood. #bhanksbuttbleeds
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Just order a double quarter pounder or regular quarter pounder with the patties from the double cheeseburger thrown in. It far less messy to eat.
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I would have suggested that you just say "no bun" when ordering but then I recalled that your asshole bleeds quite often and surmised that you were out of your anal tampons and needed the buns to absorb the blood. #bhanksbuttbleeds
Actually, it is my stomach that bleeds and I have identified the culprit. The timing of bleeding and the taking of oral prescription or OTC meds is too strongly correlated to be anything else. There is a reason I refuse to take any pills.
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Just order a double quarter pounder or regular quarter pounder with the patties from the double cheeseburger thrown in. It far less messy to eat.
The quarter pounder patties are too greasy they dont taste as good as the regular ones
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Hmm, haven't tried that, but I have ordered a large Coca Cola through McDonald's drive thru before heading to the gym.
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Their Coca Cola fountain drinks is the best.
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Did you remove all the pickles so you didn't get edema again from them?
Ground breaking stuff hanky.
You must have an IQ of at least 80.
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A dedicated bodybuilder would have asked for lettuce wrap
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
Dude we get it, you are a troll.
And you are ugly....
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McDonald's has the best coffee. I could drink that shit by the gallon. Best pre workout supplement available.
x2 I always thought McD's coffee was very good for fast-food coffee, much better than Starbucks.
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So I am heading to the gym and needed a little energy. But I also want to stay trim and lean. So what I do is I order a Big Mac and a Doubke cheeseburger I then remove the him from the double cheeseburger and add the patties to the Big Mac. Thus making my own double Big Mac I then throw away the double cheeseburger bun to reduce my carb intake and stay shredded. This is a rather extreme reduction of carbs and increase in protein and should only be attempted for a brief period by advanced athletes .@Science
You can order hamburgers without the bun at MacDonald's saving yourself the trouble of having to peel it off. Next time, order the grilled chicken sandwich without the bun... less fat.
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Bad diet, high carb low calories is best for bodybuilding..
^This. When you go low carb your energy levels drop like a rock. So you now don't have the ability to work out as intensely.
I did strict keto for a year. Hated it- dragged ass in energy levels. Went later to a high carb but lower calorie diet (2300-2500 cal a day) and found I lean out with zero loss in function.
This, btw, is the True Adonis approach, lol
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x2 I always thought McD's coffee was very good for fast-food coffee, much better than Starbucks.
Definitely! Starbucks is highly sugared shit.
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You guys are all wrong.
hanky knows more than anyone on the planet about nutrition.
That extra fat without the "unnecessary" carbs creates an anabolic environment that is 347.786% greater than Steroids.
He probably smoked some weed before eating that meal, which skyrocketed his GH levels to astronomical levels.
Just watch him "blown up from within" by 9pm tonight.
Cocoon of growth approved!
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You guys are all wrong.
hanky knows more than anyone on the planet about nutrition.
That extra fat without the "unnecessary" carbs creates an anabolic environment that is 347.786% greater than Steroids.
He probably smoked some weed before eating that meal, which skyrocketed his GH levels to astronomical levels.
Just watch him "blown up from within" by 9pm tonight.
Cocoon of growth approved!
Hahaha- you are right. I stand corrected ;D
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Back in the day the kid I trained with would hit Mickey Dees and order ten burgers with no buns.....we would hit a restaurant and the waitress would take my order.....then she`d ask my buddy what he wanted and he would just ask for a glass of water.
After we got my food and his water, this muthafucker would go into his ever present gym bag and pull out a ziplock bag with a dozen hard boiled egg and also a quart of milk,and two or three banana......he ate constantly,brought food with him anywhere he went .....this was just one of the combos he ate in restaurants.....people always stared at him and he would just tell them to eat and mind their business.....they always did cuz he was freaking huge with incredible lifts.
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You guys are all wrong.
hanky knows more than anyone on the planet about nutrition.
That extra fat without the "unnecessary" carbs creates an anabolic environment that is 347.786% greater than Steroids.
He probably smoked some weed performed pullovers/breathing squats supersets before eating that meal, which skyrocketed his GH levels to astronomical levels.
Just watch him "blown up from within" by 9pm tonight.
Cocoon of growth approved!
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Definitely! Starbucks is highly sugared shit.
This depends on what you order. You can order black coffee or espresso from Starbucks neither of which have any sugar, milk or cream. Plain lattes have steamed milk, but no sugar. Order flavored a latte and you get sugar. For a supposedly delicious but unhealthy drink order the Cinnamon Roll Frappuccino Blended Coffee which has 510 calories, dusted with a nice layer of cinnamon and sugar.
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"Thus, exogenous glucose (eg, from added sugars) is not essential for sustaining life in humans, and in most people, restricting dietary carbohydrates seems to produce no ill effects. In fact, according to the Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine of the US National Academies of Sciences, ‘The lower limit of dietary carbohydrate compatible with life apparently is zero, provided that adequate amounts of protein and fat are consumed’."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975866/
She has been eating only McDonald's burger patties most days for 10 years. Otherwise, she eats steaks.
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He eats only steaks everyday, zero carbs. He's 55 years old.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/VktvKKG1bfLwiFT6_yLa1cJmIE0Oh0GOvz96pTfbubM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9df3509b9dba83fc28a4db362de4300256fc4115)
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"Thus, exogenous glucose (eg, from added sugars) is not essential for sustaining life in humans, and in most people, restricting dietary carbohydrates seems to produce no ill effects. In fact, according to the Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine of the US National Academies of Sciences, ‘The lower limit of dietary carbohydrate compatible with life apparently is zero, provided that adequate amounts of protein and fat are consumed’."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975866/
She has been eating only McDonald's burger patties most days for 10 years. Otherwise, she eats steaks.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/7d/b4/09/7db4098f0a59cdaaac2372de691c1a16.jpg)
He eats only steaks everyday, zero carbs. He's 55 years old.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/VktvKKG1bfLwiFT6_yLa1cJmIE0Oh0GOvz96pTfbubM.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9df3509b9dba83fc28a4db362de4300256fc4115)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8EVE-IUYAEbGK8?format=jpg&name=large)
You are giving Marty Chambers conniptions with this post. Instead of only meat, he is into no meat.
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Dude we get it, you are a troll.
And you are ugly....
No I am the exact opposite I am keeping it real everyone else is a liar talking about chicken and broccoli or they actually do eat that and are 150lbs
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"Thus, exogenous glucose (eg, from added sugars) is not essential for sustaining life in humans, and in most people, restricting dietary carbohydrates seems to produce no ill effects. In fact, according to the Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine of the US National Academies of Sciences, ‘The lower limit of dietary carbohydrate compatible with life apparently is zero, provided that adequate amounts of protein and fat are consumed’."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975866/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975866/)
She has been eating only McDonald's burger patties most days for 10 years. Otherwise, she eats steaks.
Protein is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis, a highly inefficient process. Just eat the fucking sugar, lol I swear, keto is right up there with global warming and get the jab.
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This depends on what you order. You can order black coffee or espresso from Starbucks neither of which have any sugar, milk or cream. Plain lattes have steamed milk, but no sugar. Order flavored a latte and you get sugar. For a supposedly delicious but unhealthy drink order the Cinnamon Roll Frappuccino Blended Coffee which has 510 calories, dusted with a nice layer of cinnamon and sugar.
if I want black coffee I go to QT gas station for 79 cents, lol. They don't expect a tip either ;D
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if I want black coffee I go to QT gas station for 79 cents, lol. They don't expect a tip either ;D
79 cents is amazing. A local restaurant called Biscuits which only serves breakfast and lunch, charges $3.00 for a cup of coffee (maybe even more now since their online menu doesn't include pricing). It's a good-sized cup and you can have all the refills you want. Not that it is a good idea to load up on that much caffeine.
My kids gave me a Keurig coffee maker for my birthday. It's great. Makes a fresh cup of coffee in about 30 seconds. I bought a box of 48 Keurig Pete's coffee pods for $30 yesterday. So it is convenient, but not exactly cheap. You can buy ground coffee to fill a reusable pod for less, but that kind of defeats the convenience factor.
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^This. When you go low carb your energy levels drop like a rock. So you now don't have the ability to work out as intensely.
I did strict keto for a year. Hated it- dragged ass in energy levels. Went later to a high carb but lower calorie diet (2300-2500 cal a day) and found I lean out with zero loss in function.
This, btw, is the True Adonis approach, lol
This is what’s weird to me. I’m on keto and have been for many months and my workouts are better than ever and I walk 10-15 miles a day. I don’t understand it and I don’t take any stimulants at all and I don’t drink coffee.
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Hack?
Just order a double Big Mac with no salad or middle bread you fucking idiot and stop wasting food,
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This is what’s weird to me. I’m on keto and have been for many months and my workouts are better than ever and I walk 10-15 miles a day. I don’t understand it and I don’t take any stimulants at all and I don’t drink coffee.
two questions if you don't mind
1. What does a typical day of eating look like ?
2. How do you have the the time to walk 10-15 miles everyday in addition to training with weights. If you walk at ~ 4 miles an hour you're looking at 2.5 to 3.75 hours of walking every day. Do you do that all at once or break it up?
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This is what’s weird to me. I’m on keto and have been for many months and my workouts are better than ever and I walk 10-15 miles a day. I don’t understand it and I don’t take any stimulants at all and I don’t drink coffee.
A lot depends on your rep range. When you are on keto your muscles don't store anywhere near as much glycogen- that is why you drop 10+ pounds the first week on keto because as the glycogen goes, so does stored water. When glycogen is low you don't have the sugars available for recharging the muscles very fast.
That being said, if your rep range is ~10 or less it is predominately creatine phosphate that is driving the exercise, not glycogen. So you really wouldn't see much of a drop in energy on keto unless you are doing sets with very little rest between. If you did higher reps you would because that is driven glycolytically.
As for walking- the intensity is so low that it is primarily driven by fat oxidation. Again - you wouldn't see much of a difference. As soon as you start running you will find you are limited.
I did a bicycle race series while in keto and had no problem hanging in when the pack was riding steady. As soon as they accelerated I was dying and could no longer keep up. This series was a week long and on the third day I said "screw keto" and went out and bought every sugary thing I could find. Within 2 days I was finishing in the top 10 and actually was contending for victory several times.
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A lot depends on your rep range. When you are on keto your muscles don't store anywhere near as much glycogen- that is why you drop 10+ pounds the first week on keto because as the glycogen goes, so does stored water. When glycogen is low you don't have the sugars available for recharging the muscles very fast.
That being said, if your rep range is ~10 or less it is predominately creatine phosphate that is driving the exercise, not glycogen. So you really wouldn't see much of a drop in energy on keto unless you are doing sets with very little rest between. If you did higher reps you would because that is driven glycolytically.
As for walking- the intensity is so low that it is primarily driven by fat oxidation. Again - you wouldn't see much of a difference. As soon as you start running you will find you are limited.
I did a bicycle race series while in keto and had no problem hanging in when the pack was riding steady. As soon as they accelerated I was dying and could no longer keep up. This series was a week long and on the third day I said "screw keto" and went out and bought every sugary thing I could find. Within 2 days I was finishing in the top 10 and actually was contending for victory several times.
I think you are correct in explaining this.
Most people, even bodybuilders, don't get into a range of fatigue where being on keto becomes a factor in glucose production.
Competitive cycling, distance running, and other highly aerobic activities use glucose up too fast for keto to be sufficient.
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McDonald's has the best coffee. I could drink that shit by the gallon. Best pre workout supplement available.
I respectfully disagree. It's maybe a notch above gas station coffee. I don't like Starbucks very much either. Here in Michigan my top 3 are Tim Hortons, Dunkin and Biggby. Krispy Kreme isn't too bad either.
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I think you are correct in explaining this.
Most people, even bodybuilders, don't get into a range of fatigue where being on keto becomes a factor in glucose production.
Competitive cycling, distance running, and other highly aerobic activities use glucose up too fast for keto to be sufficient.
I think if you approach failure, even in the 10-15 rep range you're going to be using glycogen and if you're doing keto you'll just feel like you've run out of gas
I remember trying keto a few times and feeling like absolute shit when trying to train.
I think it's very individualistic and some people adapt better (and faster) to than others
If I recall correctly even Gironda use to recommend a carb up meal (pasta) about every three days while doing his steak and egg diet
That tiny asian on Youtube has been doing keto for a few years and he doesn't seem to have any training issues.
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I think if you approach failure, even in the 10-15 rep range you're going to be using glycogen and if you're doing keto you'll just feel like you've run out of gas
I remember trying keto a few times and feeling like absolute shit when trying to train.
I think it's very individualistic and some people adapt better (and faster) to than others
If I recall correctly even Gironda use to recommend a carb up meal (pasta) about every three days while doing his steak and egg diet
That tiny asian on Youtube has been doing keto for a few years and he doesn't seem to have any training issues.
Dude is dying of organ failure and has announced he had an eating disorder and plans to gain bodyfat now
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I think if you approach failure, even in the 10-15 rep range you're going to be using glycogen and if you're doing keto you'll just feel like you've run out of gas
I remember trying keto a few times and feeling like absolute shit when trying to train.
I think it's very individualistic and some people adapt better (and faster) to than others
If I recall correctly even Gironda use to recommend a carb up meal (pasta) about every three days while doing his steak and egg diet
That tiny asian on Youtube has been doing keto for a few years and he doesn't seem to have any training issues.
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Dude is dying of organ failure and has announced he had an eating disorder and plans to gain bodyfat now
when did he say that ?
He definitely seems to have some kind of eating disorder. The guy was almost starving himself and doing a lot of cardio in addition to lifting, sometimes twice a day and I don't even think it was for a contest. I'm surprised he didn't get rhabdomyolysis
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I respectfully disagree. It's maybe a notch above gas station coffee. I don't like Starbucks very much either. Here in Michigan my top 3 are Tim Hortons, Dunkin and Biggby. Krispy Kreme isn't too bad either.
I agree with Tim Hortons and Dunkins. McDonald's is simply available everywhere and more accessible. I drink Dunkins and other good brands at home. I really like Denny's coffee and Bob Evans as well. It is just convenient when travelling to swing through the drive thru.
I never have understood why Starbucks was such a big deal. Their coffee tastes burnt to me BUT I only drink black coffee and so I don't know how their lattes and other drinks compare to other companies.
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Couldn’t sleep baked a cake forget all these dudes eating precooked rice and chicken. I need a good variety of tasty food.
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That looks like a butthole.
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That looks like a butthole.
You should see it after I smeared chocolate frosting on it. It's a Bundt cake. But regardless point is fucking live a little. I watched these pros show their so-called daily food and it's unappetizing or downright disgusting. Life is too short not to eat cake. I train so I can enjoy life and have a cake or cookie not to torture myself on starvation rations of rice and veggies and powders. Also I ran out of bacon but did eat a chicken pot pie.
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This is what’s weird to me. I’m on keto and have been for many months and my workouts are better than ever and I walk 10-15 miles a day. I don’t understand it and I don’t take any stimulants at all and I don’t drink coffee.
I'm the same way. I suspect people are physiologically more or less sensitive to the effects of insulin and this determines whether they feel & perform best on high, medium, or low carbs
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You should see it after I smeared chocolate frosting on it. It's a Bundt cake. But regardless point is fucking live a little. I watched these pros show their so-called daily food and it's unappetizing or downright disgusting. Life is too short not to eat cake. I train so I can enjoy life and have a cake or cookie not to torture myself on starvation rations of rice and veggies and powders. Also I ran out of bacon but did eat a chicken pot pie.
Fresh, wholesome, home cooked food is delicious and has me feeling "light on my feet", eating junk just makes me feel lethargic and bloated. I'm younger than you, I'm surprised you don't deal with similar issues.
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Fresh, wholesome, home cooked food is delicious and has me feeling "light on my feet", eating junk just makes me feel lethargic and bloated. I'm younger than you, I'm surprised you don't deal with similar issues.
I eat a lot for a couple days then feel kind of bloated, so I don't eat much one day then I work out get an appetite again and eat a lot the next 3 days. I mean I am not precise about it but think like 3 days of heavy eating followed by a day or two of light eating then ramp the calories back up. Basically, if feeling good keep eating if feeling too bloated dial it back for a day. I don't eat as much junk as people seem to think my diet is extremely nutritious. But my weight goes up and down because I do cycle the calories and eating depending on my training and how I am feeling from a digestive point of view. If my lower back is hurting and I am waddling I back off the calories before leg day so I can train. Then after leg day pound the food.
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A Mcdonalds big mac is 65% plant based junk and only 35% usable meat of suspect origin and quality. You would save money by buying a steak from your butcher and eating it raw.
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I eat a lot for a couple days then feel kind of bloated, so I don't eat much one day then I work out get an appetite again and eat a lot the next 3 days. I mean I am not precise about it but think like 3 days of heavy eating followed by a day or two of light eating then ramp the calories back up. Basically, if feeling good keep eating if feeling too bloated dial it back for a day. I don't eat as much junk as people seem to think my diet is extremely nutritious. But my weight goes up and down because I do cycle the calories and eating depending on my training and how I am feeling from a digestive point of view. If my lower back is hurting and I am waddling I back off the calories before leg day so I can train. Then after leg day pound the food.
This type of calorie cycling is fucking up your cockoon. Mixing it up like this and throwing in light eating days is actually more useful for dieting/maintenance.
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Clogged Arteries Of Peace
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Protein is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis, a highly inefficient process.
Fat is converted to glucose too via gluconeogenesis, not just protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3140964/
A lot less protein than you think is converted to glucose in people who have been in nutritional ketosis a while because they are consuming plenty of fat and their body has adapted to using fat for energy instead of glucose. Their body has plenty of nutritional and stored fat to convert to glucose when needed.
Because most organs and tissues can use ketone bodies as an alternative source of energy, relatively little glucose will need to be created.
Just eat the fucking sugar, lol I swear, keto is right up there with global warming and get the jab.
Why? I have no need or desire to eat the f-ing sugar. :)
I have been on a ketogenic diet consistently for over two years, and I have:
More energy (don't need caffeine anymore) and better sleep than ever.
Lost over 20 lbs of fat without even trying and without losing muscle or strength.
Cured my allergies and got off meds, reversed acid reflux, resolved digestive issues, decreased my triglycerides, increased my HDL, improved my mood, greatly decreased and still gradually decreasing chronic pain (back, shoulders, neck), and much more.
I haven't had COVID, that I know of, and have only had a very mild cold in more than two years. I used to get colds often before starting this diet and life style. Maybe the keto diet has nothing to do with this, or maybe it does.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sugary-molecules-may-one-way-222903718.html
https://news.yale.edu/2019/11/15/ketogenic-diet-helps-tame-flu-virus
There are essential amino acids we get from consuming protein, essential fatty acids we get from consuming fat, but there is no such thing as essential carbohydrates.
We don't know exactly how many carbohydrates we need to consume. At best it's an educated guess by some. I just get out of the way and let my body create exactly the endogenous carbs I need when I need them since carbs are not essential unlike protein and fat.
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A lot depends on your rep range. When you are on keto your muscles don't store anywhere near as much glycogen- that is why you drop 10+ pounds the first week on keto because as the glycogen goes, so does stored water. When glycogen is low you don't have the sugars available for recharging the muscles very fast.
That being said, if your rep range is ~10 or less it is predominately creatine phosphate that is driving the exercise, not glycogen. So you really wouldn't see much of a drop in energy on keto unless you are doing sets with very little rest between. If you did higher reps you would because that is driven glycolytically.
As for walking- the intensity is so low that it is primarily driven by fat oxidation. Again - you wouldn't see much of a difference. As soon as you start running you will find you are limited.
I did a bicycle race series while in keto and had no problem hanging in when the pack was riding steady. As soon as they accelerated I was dying and could no longer keep up. This series was a week long and on the third day I said "screw keto" and went out and bought every sugary thing I could find. Within 2 days I was finishing in the top 10 and actually was contending for victory several times.
Re-Examining High-Fat Diets for Sports Performance: Did We Call the 'Nail in the Coffin' Too Soon?
During the period 1985-2005, studies examined the proposal that adaptation to a low-carbohydrate (<25 % energy), high-fat (>60 % energy) diet (LCHF) to increase muscle fat utilization during exercise could enhance performance in trained individuals by reducing reliance on muscle glycogen. As little as 5 days of training with LCHF retools the muscle to enhance fat-burning capacity with robust changes that persist despite acute strategies to restore carbohydrate availability (e.g., glycogen supercompensation, carbohydrate intake during exercise). Furthermore, a 2- to 3-week exposure to minimal carbohydrate (<20 g/day) intake achieves adaptation to high blood ketone concentrations. However, the failure to detect clear performance benefits during endurance/ultra-endurance protocols, combined with evidence of impaired performance of high-intensity exercise via a down-regulation of carbohydrate metabolism led this author to dismiss the use of such fat-adaptation strategies by competitive athletes in conventional sports. Recent re-emergence of interest in LCHF diets, coupled with anecdotes of improved performance by sportspeople who follow them, has created a need to re-examine the potential benefits of this eating style. Unfortunately, the absence of new data prevents a different conclusion from being made. Notwithstanding the outcomes of future research, there is a need for better recognition of current sports nutrition guidelines that promote an individualized and periodized approach to fuel availability during training, allowing the athlete to prepare for competition performance with metabolic flexibility and optimal utilization of all muscle substrates. Nevertheless, there may be a few scenarios where LCHF diets are of benefit, or at least are not detrimental, for sports performance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26553488
Impact Of Ketogenic Diet On Athletes: Current Insights
2019 Nov 15
Whether nutritional ketosis yields any tangible performance benefits to athletes is a contentious subject within nutrition science. This academic debate has brought about several investigations in an array of athletes, including endurance athletes, resistance-trained athletes, and CrossFit trainees.
The impact of a ketogenic diet (KD) (<50 g/d carbohydrate, >75% fat) on athletic performance has sparked much interest and self-experimentation in the past 3–4 years. Evidence shows 3–4-week adaptations to a KD in endurance-trained athletes were associated with maintenance of moderate (46–63% VO2max) and vigorous intensity (64–90% VO2max) endurance exercise, while at intensities >70% VO2max, increases in fat oxidation were associated with decreased economy (increased oxygen consumption), and in some cases, increased ratings of perceived exertion and heart rate. Two investigations in recreationally active endurance athletes noted no vigorous intensity exercise decrement following 3- and 12-week adaptations. Moderate (70–85% one repetition maximum) and near-maximal to maximal intensity (>85% 1RM) strength performance experienced no decrement following a 3-12-week KD adaptation. Beneficial effects were noted for 2000 m sprint and critical power test completed for short duration at vigorous intensity, while two additional tests noted no decrement. For sprint, near-maximal exercise (>91% VO2max), benefit of the KD was observed for six-second sprint, while no decrement in performance was noted for two additional maximal tests. When protein is equated (grams per kilogram), one investigation noted no decrement in muscle hypertrophy, while one noted a decrement. One investigation with matched protein noted the KD group lost more body fat. In conclusion, moderate-to-vigorous intensity exercise experiences no decrement following adaptation to a KD. Decreases in exercise economy are observed >70% VO2max in trained endurance athletes which may negate performance within field settings. Beneficial effects of the KD during short duration vigorous, and sprint bouts of exercises are often confounded by greater weight loss in the KD group. With more athletes pursuing carbohydrate-restricted diets (moderate and strict (KD)) for their proposed health benefits, more work is needed in the area to address both performance and health outcomes.
Short-Duration Vigorous Intensity (64–90% VO2max, >30 s)
Evidence suggests no decrement to short-duration vigorous-intensity exercise following 3–12 weeks of a KD within trained and recreationally trained athletes. Findings are contrary to sports nutrition guidelines, which recommend carbohydrate availability to enable vigorous performance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6863116/
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Cured my allergies and got off meds, reversed acid reflux, resolved digestive issues, decreased my triglycerides, increased my HDL, improved my mood, greatly decreased and still gradually decreasing chronic pain (back, shoulders, neck), and much more.
Might be hard to know what's from diet change and what's from weight loss
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Might be hard to know what's from diet change and what's from weight loss
Not for me. I had lost just as much weight, sometimes more, over a period of 3 to 4 months many times before. I went on low fat, high carb, high protein diets and lost 1 to 2 lbs of fat per week.
All I did then was develop health issues and experienced no health benefits, and then gained the weight back plus interest shortly after every time.
This is my first time eating a low carb, ketogenic diet and it has been a world of difference. I have never lost weight so easily before, even though I'm older now, and I had never been able to keep the weight off this long.
I never felt good while losing weight before, until now.
For me it's definitely the diet, not only what I'm eating now, but definitely what I'm no longer eating.
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Not for me. I had lost just as much weight, sometimes more, over a period of 3 to 4 month many times before. I went on low fat, high carb, high protein diets and lost 1 to 2 lbs of fat per week.
All I did then was develop health issues and experienced no health benefits, and then gained the weight back plus interest shortly after every time.
This is my first time eating a low carb, ketogenic diet and it has been a world of difference. I have never lost weight so easily before, even though I'm older now, and I had never been able to keep the weight off this long.
I never felt good while losing weight before, until now.
For me it's definitely the diet, not only what I'm eating now, but definitely what I'm no longer eating.
So you are eating zero carbs that is not a life have a fucking cookie and a soda
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So you are eating zero carbs that is not a life have a fucking cookie and a soda
Not zero carbs, but close to it. Definitely less than 20g per day. There are a few carbs in eggs, cheese, and liver.
I have no desire to eat a cookie, but if I wanted to I could have a cookie baked with almond or coconut flower sweetened with stevia, monk fruit, or Erythritol.
I enjoy plain seltzer water almost everyday, but I could have a zero carb diet soda if I wanted to.
This is the best life I've lived and I wish I had not fallen for the half truths and misinformation about the keto diet, red meat, saturated fat, cholesterol, salt, etc. and started this diet many years ago.
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Not zero carbs, but close to it. Definitely less than 20g per day. There are a few carbs in eggs, cheese, and liver.
I have no desire to eat a cookie, but if I wanted to I could have a cookie baked with almond or coconut flower sweetened with stevia, monk fruit, or Erythritol.
I enjoy plain seltzer water almost everyday, but I could have a zero carb diet soda if I wanted to.
This is the best life I've lived and I wish I had not fallen for the half truths and misinformation about the keto diet, red meat, saturated fat, cholesterol, salt, etc. and started this diet many years ago.
On that note I think I will have another piece of cake
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On that note I think I will have another piece of cake
Enjoy! :D
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Fat is converted to glucose too via gluconeogenesis, not just protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3140964/
A lot less protein than you think is converted to glucose in people who have been in nutritional ketosis a while because they are consuming plenty of fat and their body has adapted to using fat for energy instead of glucose. Their body has plenty of nutritional and stored fat to be used to create glucose when needed.
Because most organs and tissues can use ketone bodies as an alternative source of energy, relatively little glucose will need to be created.
Why? I have no need or desire to eat the f-ing sugar. :)
I have been on a ketogenic diet consistently for over two years, and I have:
More energy (don't need caffeine anymore) and better sleep than ever.
Lost over 20 lbs of fat without even trying and without losing muscle or strength.
Cured my allergies and got off meds, reversed acid reflux, resolved digestive issues, decreased my triglycerides, increased my HDL, improved my mood, greatly decreased and still gradually decreasing chronic pain (back, shoulders, neck), and much more.
I haven't had COVID, that I know of, and have only had a very mild cold in more than two years. I used to get colds often before starting this diet and life style. Maybe the keto diet has nothing to do with this, or maybe it does.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sugary-molecules-may-one-way-222903718.html
https://news.yale.edu/2019/11/15/ketogenic-diet-helps-tame-flu-virus
There are essential amino acids we get from consuming protein, essential fatty acids we get from consuming fat, but there is no such thing as essential carbohydrates.
We don't know exactly how many carbohydrates we need to consume. At best it's an educated guess by some. I just get out of the way and let my body create exactly the endogenous carbs I need when I need them since carbs are not essential unlike protein and fat.
I think all organs are important, Pal.
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I think all organs are important, Pal.
Agreed. Who said otherwise?
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You can order hamburgers without the bun at MacDonald's saving yourself the trouble of having to peel it off. Next time, order the grilled chicken sandwich without the bun... less fat.
You can't be that stupid. I know you are stating the obvious, but it it would be better to buy hamburgers and chicken breasts from reputable brands at a grocery store.
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Agreed. Who said otherwise?
You did. Read the entire post of yours, that I quoted.
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You did. Read the entire post of yours, that I quoted.
I did no such thing. You are the one who needs to read it again.
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I did no such thing. You are the one who needs to read it again.
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I did no such thing. You are the one who needs to read it again.
I apologize. You weren't using it in that meaning that I mentioned.
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I apologize. You weren't using it in that meaning that I mentioned.
No problem.
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All right boys. Let's shake hands and be friends.
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I respectfully disagree. It's maybe a notch above gas station coffee. I don't like Starbucks very much either. Here in Michigan my top 3 are Tim Hortons, Dunkin and Biggby. Krispy Kreme isn't too bad either.
I know several other people who swear by Dunkin Donut's coffee. I should give it a try. The MacDonald's coffee I am drinking right now tastes burnt.
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You can't be that stupid.
shaun, im afraid he can be, and is
one of the dumbest fucks ive ever read on a forum
makes "curious george" bush sound intelligent
plus, i dont think "dub'ya" ever swallowed cranks at 'ye olde glory-hole'.
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I know several other people who swear by Dunkin Donut's coffee. I should give it a try. The MacDonald's coffee I am drinking right now tastes burnt.
I used to live on DD coffee.....was right across from the gym and I drank a shitload when personal training.
These days all I can stand is an occasional cup here or there....seems I lost my taste for it somehow......making some Folgers right this second.
When I hit Australia, I`m visiting Tapeworm and getting the REAL thing from his high powered fancy schmancy nuclear coffee machine. :D
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shaun, im afraid he can be, and is
one of the dumbest fucks ive ever read on a forum
makes "curious george" bush sound intelligent
plus, i dont think "dub'ya" ever swallowed cranks at 'ye olde glory-hole'.
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I like this guy !
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I know several other people who swear by Dunkin Donut's coffee. I should give it a try. The MacDonald's coffee I am drinking right now tastes burnt.
You've never had Dunkin? Put it on your bucket list. Stat.
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I agree with Tim Hortons and Dunkins. McDonald's is simply available everywhere and more accessible. I drink Dunkins and other good brands at home. I really like Denny's coffee and Bob Evans as well. It is just convenient when travelling to swing through the drive thru.
I never have understood why Starbucks was such a big deal. Their coffee tastes burnt to me BUT I only drink black coffee and so I don't know how their lattes and other drinks compare to other companies.
Haven't had Bob Evan's coffee in years. Good shit for sure. Starbucks is too strong and bitter. Their foo-foo drinks are ok. I do like a sugar free mocha latte every once in a while if the wife drags me there.
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I can't handle most normal coffee shops.
I make fresh ground coffee beans from Chiapas, Mexico. Also, have some Costa Rican coffee beans.
Have a drip style coffee maker that brews a perfect batch every time.
Just be careful not to make it too strong.
Add a little bit of real sugar and it's unreal.
If i'm traveling i will get the McD's coffee. Just because it is convenient.
Have to drink it black with a little sugar.
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Haven't had Bob Evan's coffee in years. Good shit for sure. Starbucks is too strong and bitter. Their foo-foo drinks are ok. I do like a sugar free mocha latte every once in a while if the wife drags me there.
I`ll be damned if I ever paid what Starbucks asks for a fucking cup of coffee....they can fuck off.
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I can't handle most normal coffee shops.
I make fresh ground coffee beans from Chiapas, Mexico. Also, have some Costa Rican coffee beans.
Have a drip style coffee maker that brews a perfect batch every time.
Just be careful not to make it too strong.
Add a little bit of real sugar and it's unreal.
If i'm traveling i will get the McD's coffee. Just because it is convenient.
Have to drink it black with a little sugar.
Just got me a nice cup of Folgers from the kitchen....screw those shops,I make a great cup of coffee.
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I`ll be damned if I ever paid what Starbucks asks for a fucking cup of coffee....they can fuck off.
I’ve been in Starbucks one time. I had my grandson who was only about 10 at the time.We are riding around and he says let’s stop at Starbucks. I kind of laugh and asked “ you drinking coffee now? “ so we go in and he orders something that I swear looked like a strawberry milk shake.So I get a large black coffee along with his coffee milk shake and it costs me about 12 bucks to get out of there.
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Just got me a nice cup of Folgers from the kitchen....screw those shops,I make a great cup of coffee.
I refuse to buy that shit.
My GF always wants to go to Starbucks and spend $8 on coffee with milk and sugar in it.
Drives me nuts.
I can make the same thing at my house for about 50 cents.
I'll even write her damn name on the cup. ;D
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I’ve been in Starbucks one time. I had my grandson who was only about 10 at the time.We are riding around and he says let’s stop at Starbucks. I kind of laugh and asked “ you drinking coffee now? “ so we go in and he orders something that I swear looked like a strawberry milk shake.So I get a large black coffee along with his coffee milk shake and it costs me about 12 bucks to get out of there.
I`ve honestly never been in any.....none in my area, and never hit one when travelling.
I`m like you Cook,just gimme` a mans cup of coffee no fancy design on top, whippping,blending flavoring or whatever else they fucking do to butcher an innocent cup of java.
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I refuse to buy that shit.
My GF always wants to go to Starbucks and spend $8 on coffee with milk and sugar in it.
Drives me nuts.
I can make the same thing at my house for about 50 cents.
I'll even write her damn name on the cup. ;D
I hear ya` bud. LOL ;D
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I`ll be damned if I ever paid what Starbucks asks for a fucking cup of coffee....they can fuck off.
I used to go on sales calls with a guy who always stopped at Starbucks and that's the only reason I know what it tastes like. After having it I wondered how anyone could love that piss water so much.
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The middle-bread on the Big Mac is always weird to me.
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I used to go on sales calls with a guy who always stopped at Starbucks and that's the only reason I know what it tastes like. After having it I wondered how anyone could love that piss water so much.
That bad huh? ;D
Expensive Piss Of Peace
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On that note I think I will have another piece of cake
What kind of cake, dude? How am I supposed to map my diet to yours and join you on your quest for mutation this season if you're not specific?
Was it that chocolate covered bundt ring you made, or is there a secret kind of cake I need to be using to line my nutrient cocoon?
Thanks in advance
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