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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on April 25, 2022, 10:12:42 AM
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His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)
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Blood pressure causes varicose veins
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It is, in his case, a consequence of increased blood volume (muscle mass, GH, roids etc). And maybe a more tendency for varicose veins (should probably look at mother and female side of family) than other pros.
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and increased blood volume will increase blood pressure unless you medicate it hard
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It’s Hereditary…… (my Mom has them) …I have them (spent a fortune to have them removed by “ vein stripping “ a very painful and multiple procedure….and they came back ….
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One can only guess since he's on a whole slew of drugs. His veins are probably due to some combination of blood pressure, blood volume, liver disease, sleep apnea, and the drugs.
And genetic predisposition. ;D
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Gunter Schlierkamp had them too:
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:o
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I wonder if having say a very thick and prominent bicep vein has an relation to how muscular/good a bb you are? I know some good guys have no vascularity but are there skinny guys with really thick veins? Like Arnold or Big Lou.
My buddy has good veinage too and there is maybe only a hint of varicose developing. But he's always had low BP.
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;D
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=678564.0;attach=1364473;image)
thats healthy vascularity
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His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)
Eggs?
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I wonder if having say a very thick and prominent bicep vein has an relation to how muscular/good a bb you are? I know some good guys have no vascularity but are there skinny guys with really thick veins? Like Arnold or Big Lou.
My buddy has good veinage too and there is maybe only a hint of varicose developing. But he's always had low BP.
A high school friend of mine who I was also in the army with had the best bodybuilding genetics of anyone I knew when I was a teen.
He had that prominent arm vein. By 2006 when I was on roids [remember how you called me out, and I initially lied about it? ;D], our arms were about the same size [mine were just under 17" flexed/pumped], but he had that prominent biceps vein.
You can get an idea of his shape in this shot, but he has kids now and doesn't train like he once did:
https://m.facebook.com/38CBG/photos/a.3196981063675459/3196981940342038/
He was always very lean at 185-205. He looked to be 6% body fat, so he was probably actually 10-12%. I know body fat is one of those things we tend to estimate incorrectly.
In fact, how lean is the average competition bodybuilder? Are they really 3%?
I don't know if the arm vein has a correlation, but you might be right. There are definitely some prominent examples.
There are guys like Jay Cutler who have no such vascularity [as you implied], but do we ever see good veins on people without bodybuilding potential?
What's your theory, Van? That the biceps vein feeds the rest of the arm?
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A high school friend of mine who I was also in the army with had the best bodybuilding genetics of anyone I knew when I was a teen.
He had that prominent arm vein. By 2006 when I was on roids [remember how you called me out, and I initially lied about it? ;D], our arms were about the same size [mine were just under 17" flexed/pumped], but he had that prominent biceps vein.
You can get an idea of his shape in this shot, but he has kids now and doesn't train like he once did:
https://m.facebook.com/38CBG/photos/a.3196981063675459/3196981940342038/
He was always very lean at 185-205. He looked to be 6% body fat, so he was probably actually 10-12%. I know body fat is one of those things we tend to estimate incorrectly.
In fact, how lean is the average competition bodybuilder? Are they really 3%?
I don't know if the arm vein has a correlation, but you might be right. There are definitely some prominent examples.
There are guys like Jay Cutler who have no such vascularity [as you implied], but do we ever see good veins on people without bodybuilding potential?
What's your theory, Van? That the biceps vein feeds the rest of the arm?
if they are carrying a lot of water then yes maybe
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if they are carrying a lot of water then yes maybe
3% if they are carrying water?
So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?
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How veiny is his COCK?
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His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)
He looks like shit on the right pic, wouldn’t place any where or turn pro in the late 90’s, early 2000’s
Shows it’s all drugs and weak competition
Circus show all over
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3% if they are carrying water?
So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?
Doubt it
Not possible
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Doubt it
Not possible
It seemed too low to me also. I remember when Claude Groulx won the 2003 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, he said he was 3.5% body fat, and while there have been bodybuilders a little leaner than him, I also wondered how accurately these body fat percentages are being reported.
We all know the example of Flex Wheeler testing at 0.0% body fat in Gold's Venice by Jim Quinn. ;D
Lou Ferrigno said in a scene from a radio interview in his Walking Tall training video that he was 1% body fat. It's incredible how these guys either lie, or...just have no clue, when it's already incredibly hard to do what they do, but they need to make it seem even more unrealistic by stating that they train six hours a day, or are 1% body fat or whatever.
I'm trying to think of a realistic body percentage for me, while having a diet that isn't too restrictive and generally not using anything to help me with that [nothing I would take regularly I mean, if anything at all], and I think 15% is fine. I say this knowing people falsely think 15% is 10-12%. Again, to be in shape without going overboard. A year-round shape, basically.
I was under the impression that bodybuilders might get to 4-6% - which we call "3%", but given that the organs have visceral fat that can't go away completely, that it's not possible to go much lower...without dying.
So a 250-lb bodybuilder at 6% body fat would only have 15-lb of total fat in his entire body. Given the aforementioned organ fat, this seemed more realistic than claims of 3%, which would only be 7.5-lb of total fat in the body. That just seems extremely low to me, given we need this visceral fat, in order to survive. But I'm not sure on that.
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3% if they are carrying water?
So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?
that would be true
a 3% bf measurement means that the overall fat weight of your body is 3%
Add more water and the fat % has to go down
A dry bodybuilder will have a higher BF% than a watery one
Imagine Muntzer onstage at 4%, then three days later carrying 20lbs of water.
His Bf would be the same but its percentage would have to be lower
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Eggs?
Duck eggs
FIXED
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It’s Hereditary…… (my Mom has them) …I have them (spent a fortune to have them removed by “ vein stripping “ a very painful and multiple procedure….and they came back ….
They use ablation surgery now which is outpatient and recovery is only a couple of days. Those vein stripping surgeries were barbaric.
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It seemed too low to me also. I remember when Claude Groulx won the 2003 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, he said he was 3.5% body fat, and while there have been bodybuilders a little leaner than him, I also wondered how accurately these body fat percentages are being reported.
We all know the example of Flex Wheeler testing at 0.0% body fat in Gold's Venice by Jim Quinn. ;D
Lou Ferrigno said in a scene from a radio interview in his Walking Tall training video that he was 1% body fat. It's incredible how these guys either lie, or...just have no clue, when it's already incredibly hard to do what they do, but they need to make it seem even more unrealistic by stating that they train six hours a day, or are 1% body fat or whatever.
I'm trying to think of a realistic body percentage for me, while having a diet that isn't too restrictive and generally not using anything to help me with that [nothing I would take regularly I mean, if anything at all], and I think 15% is fine. I say this knowing people falsely think 15% is 10-12%. Again, to be in shape without going overboard. A year-round shape, basically.
I was under the impression that bodybuilders might get to 4-6% - which we call "3%", but given that the organs have visceral fat that can't go away completely, that it's not possible to go much lower...without dying.
So a 250-lb bodybuilder at 6% body fat would only have 15-lb of total fat in his entire body. Given the aforementioned organ fat, this seemed more realistic than claims of 3%, which would only be 7.5-lb of total fat in the body. That just seems extremely low to me, given we need this visceral fat, in order to survive. But I'm not sure on that.
without a DEXA scan no one really knows someones BF% and even they can be inconsistent
All I know is that the driest bodybuilders will have a higer BF% than a smooth one
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They use ablation surgery now which is outpatient and recovery is only a couple of days. Those vein stripping surgeries were barbaric.
When I went back they did some (ablation?) right in the office while I was awake … hurt like fuck tho! .. was swearing my head off and the nurse was holding me down lol … spent like a year between the vein stripping and the office procedures…. Like I stated most of the veins have come back! ….
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When I went back they did some (ablation?) right in the office while I was awake … hurt like fuck tho! .. was swearing my head off and the nurse was holding me down lol … spent like a year between the vein stripping and the office procedures…. Like I stated most of the veins have come back! ….
Where you told the veins could come back?
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Where you told the veins could come back?
No ….
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No ….
Ouch..what a c unt doctor.
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Ouch..what a c unt doctor.
Yea I mean if you Pull them out surgically (vein stripping ) burn or close them … and the majority of them are gone (smooth no varicose veins showing ) … how do they come back??!! Would I have gone thru all that if I knew this…. No
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How veiny is his COCK?
Woo Hoo! ;D
(http://i.postimg.cc/qvZGcRRz/whirlpool_of_c0ck_of_peace....jpg)
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Eggs?
Duck eggs
FIXED
Epic 2019 call-back - remember that BS!? LOL
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When I went back they did some (ablation?) right in the office while I was awake … hurt like fuck tho! .. was swearing my head off and the nurse was holding me down lol … spent like a year between the vein stripping and the office procedures…. Like I stated most of the veins have come back! ….
I had the ablation in both legs. The first surgery they put me to sleep and I felt nothing. A few years later I had the second leg done and I was in the doctor's office, wide awake and it was uncomfortable as hell. I could feel the probe moving around in my leg and the doctor was old and incompetent and kept screwing up. The nurse practitioner actually had to take over to get it done right.
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I had the ablation in both legs. The first surgery they put me to sleep and I felt nothing. A few years later I had the second leg done and I was in the doctor's office, wide awake and it was uncomfortable as hell. I could feel the probe moving around in my leg and the doctor was old and incompetent and kept screwing up. The nurse practitioner actually had to take over to get it done right.
Has any of yours reappeared? …….
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Sounds awful.
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Has any of yours reappeared? …….
A little bit but I wear compression socks most of the time. The supplement Diosmin works too. My question is does vascular disease take years off our lives? It can't be good I'm sure.
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Honestly the varicose veins just make him look freakier he says it doesn't cause him any issue so why bother with a surgery
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Honestly the varicose veins just make him look freakier he says it doesn't cause him any issue so why bother with a surgery
They have to hurt being that big but he should probably wait until after his contest career is over.
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Honestly the varicose veins just make him look freakier he says it doesn't cause him any issue so why bother with a surgery
Would having cock veins like nicks lower leg veins affect ones ability to achieve and maintain a solid erection?
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Honestly the varicose veins just make him look freakier he says it doesn't cause him any issue so why bother with a surgery
Narrow people should not be allowed to post
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Would having cock veins like nicks lower leg veins affect ones ability to achieve and maintain a solid erection?
It would probably always be erect with that blood pooled up in there.
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Narrow people should not be allowed to post
I wear a 48 jacket I bet my life I am wider than you
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that would be true
a 3% bf measurement means that the overall fat weight of your body is 3%
Add more water and the fat % has to go down
A dry bodybuilder will have a higher BF% than a watery one
Imagine Muntzer onstage at 4%, then three days later carrying 20lbs of water.
His Bf would be the same but its percentage would have to be lower
without a DEXA scan no one really knows someones BF% and even they can be inconsistent
All I know is that the driest bodybuilders will have a higer BF% than a smooth one
Thanks for clarifying. With Lou Ferrigno claiming 1% body fat, and Ronnie Coleman claiming 0%, I just wondered what the truth was.
As if the when bodybuilding world isn't fueled on mass quantities of PED's to begin with, competitors lie too.
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Looks ugly!!!!
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I wear a 48 jacket I bet my life I am wider than you
48 my azz.
Who's your tailor? Omar the Tentmaker?
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I'll take your Dillet and raise you one Piana...