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According to a report by Breitbart, the Internal Revenue Service has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying ammunition, raising concern about why a government agency is buying ammunition that the administration plans to restrict further in the coming months.
On Saturday, Congressman Matt Gaetz told Breitbart that the IRS spent approximately $700,000 “between March and June 1” purchasing ammunition.
Gaetz called the IRS’s acquisition of the ammunition “bizarre.” He said, “There is concern that this is part of a broader effort to have any entity in the federal government buy up ammo to reduce the amount of ammunition that is in supply, while at the same time, making it harder to produce ammo.”
The Congressman went on to propose a potential scenario where federal agencies are buying up ammunition and putting citizens in a situation where they cannot exercise their Second Amendment rights due to the inability to get ammunition.
He expressed concern that the government intended to reduce ammunition production “and, on the other hand, [soaks] up the supply of it.” It is something he feels is a direct violation of the rights of Americans.
usaspending.gov, the IRS’s ammunition purchases ranged from $3,201 worth of ammo at one time to $92,000+ worth of ammo at one time. The purchases were spread out over several months, according to the documents, which are publicly available.
According to a report from OpenTheBooks published in 2020, the IRS had stockpiled 4,600 guns and five million rounds of ammunition as of January 2019.
According to the Government Accountability Office the ammunition breakdown at the time included:
3,151,500 Pistol and revolver rounds
1,472,050 Rifle rounds
367,750 Shotgun rounds
56,000 Fully automatic firearm rounds
More interesting is that the IRS does not follow any regulations concerning the issuance, use, and accountability of the agency’s staff carrying such weapons. This starkly contradicts the recent push of gun control laws nationwide, including more heavily regulated training and liability.
According to reports from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), the IRS has repeatedly failed to ensure that procedures relating to firearms are properly followed.
“There is no national-level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” according to the report.
Furthermore, the report states that the IRS’s failure to conduct proper internal oversight of its weapons could have serious consequences for the public.
As noted by the Inspector General at the time, “If there is insufficient oversight, special agents in possession of firearms who are not properly trained and qualified could endanger other special agents and the public.”
A TIGTA report found that special agents at the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) accidentally fired their weapons more often than they intentionally fired them
Additionally, the IRS has come under scrutiny in the past for the harsh tactics it used to enforce the tax code, including incidents involving armed agents. With the agency requesting tens of billions in new funding, it is not hard to see how these abuses could return.
A 1998 article by Washington Post noted many small business owners were harassed by the IRS, only for the agency to find no evidence of wrongdoing.
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Coach, can you update us on this? Seemed pretty important at the time to post about it.. have you followed up?
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/06/fact-check-irs-has-not-just-begun-buying-ammunition-its-criminal-investigation-unit-has-always-done-so.html#:~:text=No%2C%20that%27s%20not%20true%3A%20The%20IRS%20started%20buying,enforcement%20officers%20to%20buy%20ammunition%2C%20firearms%20and%20equipment.
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/internal-revenue-service-did-buy-nearly-700k-in-ammunition/536-0ce9f538-a372-4c26-8013-1ab4e571578c
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Coach, can you update us on this? Seemed pretty important at the time to post about it.. have you followed up?
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/06/fact-check-irs-has-not-just-begun-buying-ammunition-its-criminal-investigation-unit-has-always-done-so.html#:~:text=No%2C%20that%27s%20not%20true%3A%20The%20IRS%20started%20buying,enforcement%20officers%20to%20buy%20ammunition%2C%20firearms%20and%20equipment.
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/internal-revenue-service-did-buy-nearly-700k-in-ammunition/536-0ce9f538-a372-4c26-8013-1ab4e571578c
IRS purchased $700k worth of ammo in just a few months, do you know how much that is? Do you know the price of ammo is much lower for government agencies than civilians?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2022/08/08/irs-has-guns-inflation-reduction-act-will-unleash-tough-irs-on-taxes/?sh=5b0666095d20
This link has a cute little footnote....
Some of the guns the IRS has are fully automatic machine guns. Compared to seeing gun-toting IRS Agents at your door, a correspondence audit doesn’t sound too bad. An audit report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration covering 2009 to 2011 said that IRS Agents accidentally discharged their guns 11 times during that time. The report says that IRS agents fired their guns accidentally more times than they did intentionally. Some of the misfires caused property damage or personal injury. A few defendants in criminal tax cases have tried to suppress evidence based on the IRS carrying guns.
Just what we need, another arm of the democratic party armed with fully auto guns forcing our money out of our pockets. ::)
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Sounds awesome. This little civil war 2 is going to be over before it even gets started.
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Sounds awesome. This little civil war 2 is going to be over before it even gets started.
Right? You guys trying to figure out which end goes bang will be hilarious.
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Right? You guys trying to figure out which end goes bang will be hilarious.
No, you guys actually trying to do something besides cry on the internet is hilarious.
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IRS purchased $700k worth of ammo in just a few months, do you know how much that is? Do you know the price of ammo is much lower for government agencies than civilians?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2022/08/08/irs-has-guns-inflation-reduction-act-will-unleash-tough-irs-on-taxes/?sh=5b0666095d20
This link has a cute little footnote....
Just what we need, another arm of the democratic party armed with fully auto guns forcing our money out of our pockets. ::)
But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?
"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."
"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."
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But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?
"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."
"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."
Well that’s a let down. I assumed they kept seeing all the J6 Trumpturds being arrested were mostly dead eats and system leeches and decided to thin the herd.
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Well that’s a let down. I assumed they kept seeing all the J6 Trumpturds being arrested were mostly dead eats and system leeches and decided to thin the herd.
Is Coach on vacation? He posts whacko posts, then disappears... The fact he challenges people to a debate yet has failed to respond to any of these questions is kind of weird.
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Is Coach on vacation? He posts whacko posts, then disappears... The fact he challenges people to a debate yet has failed to respond to any of these questions is kind of weird.
Qoach is prepping for the upcoming civil war. He finally pieced together his Cabelas Jr. tact gear outfit. Just looking for the Hasbro size 5 Urban Assault Boots now. And waiting for mommy to sign his permission slip.
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Qoach is prepping for the upcoming civil war. He finally pieced together his Cabelas Jr. tact gear outfit. Just looking for the Hasbro size 5 Urban Assault Boots now. And waiting for mommy to sign his permission slip.
You perverse sick vile groomer with no life, fantasying about incest now ???
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According to a report by Breitbart, the Internal Revenue Service has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying ammunition, raising concern about why a government agency is buying ammunition that the administration plans to restrict further in the coming months.
On Saturday, Congressman Matt Gaetz told Breitbart that the IRS spent approximately $700,000 “between March and June 1” purchasing ammunition.
Gaetz called the IRS’s acquisition of the ammunition “bizarre.” He said, “There is concern that this is part of a broader effort to have any entity in the federal government buy up ammo to reduce the amount of ammunition that is in supply, while at the same time, making it harder to produce ammo.”
The Congressman went on to propose a potential scenario where federal agencies are buying up ammunition and putting citizens in a situation where they cannot exercise their Second Amendment rights due to the inability to get ammunition.
He expressed concern that the government intended to reduce ammunition production “and, on the other hand, [soaks] up the supply of it.” It is something he feels is a direct violation of the rights of Americans.
usaspending.gov, the IRS’s ammunition purchases ranged from $3,201 worth of ammo at one time to $92,000+ worth of ammo at one time. The purchases were spread out over several months, according to the documents, which are publicly available.
According to a report from OpenTheBooks published in 2020, the IRS had stockpiled 4,600 guns and five million rounds of ammunition as of January 2019.
According to the Government Accountability Office the ammunition breakdown at the time included:
3,151,500 Pistol and revolver rounds
1,472,050 Rifle rounds
367,750 Shotgun rounds
56,000 Fully automatic firearm rounds
More interesting is that the IRS does not follow any regulations concerning the issuance, use, and accountability of the agency’s staff carrying such weapons. This starkly contradicts the recent push of gun control laws nationwide, including more heavily regulated training and liability.
According to reports from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), the IRS has repeatedly failed to ensure that procedures relating to firearms are properly followed.
“There is no national-level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” according to the report.
Furthermore, the report states that the IRS’s failure to conduct proper internal oversight of its weapons could have serious consequences for the public.
As noted by the Inspector General at the time, “If there is insufficient oversight, special agents in possession of firearms who are not properly trained and qualified could endanger other special agents and the public.”
A TIGTA report found that special agents at the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) accidentally fired their weapons more often than they intentionally fired them
Additionally, the IRS has come under scrutiny in the past for the harsh tactics it used to enforce the tax code, including incidents involving armed agents. With the agency requesting tens of billions in new funding, it is not hard to see how these abuses could return.
A 1998 article by Washington Post noted many small business owners were harassed by the IRS, only for the agency to find no evidence of wrongdoing.
Right on, Coach... ::)
The IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) division of the IRS has been purchasing guns and ammunition for over a century. The CI investigations have included gangsters, drug dealers, and the mafia. Are you a gangster, drug dealer or in the mafia?
The Criminal Investigation Division had 2,046 Special Agents in 2021. The number of Special Agents has been around 2,200 for the last 50 years. You should be very afraid because you've also been around for the last 50 years... or so.
There has been an increase in spending by the IRS on ammunition since 2010. Maybe the increase in spending is because the cost of ammunition has increased by 19% between 2019 to 2022 and as we all know inflation has continue to rise in 2023.
There will always be folks like you who believe the government is out to get them. If you are a mobster who cheats on his income tax, maybe you should be concerned. Has the IRS audited your income taxes lately.
Better be careful, this is how it starts... I mean look at what has happened to Trump since he was audited by the IRS. Although it was the FBI who searched (some say raided) his 'pile' in Florida and we know they carry weapons which are likely loaded with expensive ammunition.
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Right on, Coach... ::)
The IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) division of the IRS has been purchasing guns and ammunition for over a century. The CI investigations have included gangsters, drug dealers, and the mafia. Are you a gangster, drug dealer or in the mafia?
The Criminal Investigation Division had 2,046 Special Agents in 2021. The number of Special Agents has been around 2,200 for the last 50 years. You should be very afraid because you've also been around for the last 50 years... or so.
There has been an increase in spending by the IRS on ammunition since 2010. Maybe the increase in spending is because the cost of ammunition has increased by 19% between 2019 to 2022 and as we all know inflation has continue to rise in 2023.
There will always be folks like you who believe the government is out to get them. If you are a mobster who cheats on his income tax, maybe you should be concerned. Has the IRS audited your income taxes lately.
Better be careful, this is how it starts... I mean look at what has happened to Trump since he was audited by the IRS. Although it was the FBI who searched (some say raided) his 'pile' in Florida and we know they carry weapons which are likely loaded with expensive ammunition.
I bet he ignores this. LOL
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I bet he ignores this. LOL
You perverse sick vile groomer with no life, fantasying about incest now ???
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You perverse sick vile groomer with no life, fantasying about incest now ???
'Perverse, sick and vile groomers'
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You are grotesque and a disgrace to men everywhere.
'Perverse, sick and vile groomers'
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But aren't the facts, that the IRS has purchased similar amounts for years?
"The division’s spending on ammunition this year is on par with previous years and less than what was spent a decade ago, IRS data shows. Much of the ammunition is used at its training academy in Georgia, where agents complete firearms training and handgun qualifications."
"Gaetz's comments about Biden came after Carlson cited reports from 2018 and 2020 about IRS spending on weapons and ammunition — expenditures that happened before Biden took office."
I believe the concern was about the amount in the timeframe. Maybe they bought it all at once? I wouldn't blame this on Biden, the government in general has become more and more controlling and interested in our lives. Should be the other way around, they should have to answer to the people.
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Too late. I'll never be able to use all mine purchased around Obammer's second coming. ;D
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I believe the concern was about the amount in the timeframe. Maybe they bought it all at once? I wouldn't blame this on Biden, the government in general has become more and more controlling and interested in our lives. Should be the other way around, they should have to answer to the people.
Fair enough. No, the amount and time frame are in line with earlier years. And I don't have a problem with a senator calling it out. My problem is with Gaetz' attempt to paint it as Biden trying to arm the IRS and take our guns. Granted, reading that, it sounds insane, but ;
"I imagine the IRS in green eyeshades and cubicles (Here is an example of his thinking Americans are stupid. He KNOWS the IRS works hand in hand with Law Enforcement. He has to know the IRS was the reason Capone was taken down) — not busting doors down and emptying Glock clips on our fellow Americans. Certainly it's troubling that in 2022 alone, the IRS has spent around $725,000 on ammunition. So here's the Biden plan: Disarm Americans, open the border, empty the prisons — but rest assured, they'll still collect your taxes, and they need $725,000 worth of ammunition, apparently, to get the job done."
Why didn't this bother Gaetz from 2017 to 2020 when they spent similar amounts?
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Just pay your taxes and you won’t have to worry about the IRS putting lead in your kneecap with a drive by.
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You are grotesque and a disgrace to men everywhere.
Boohoo, you hurt my feelings.
I would say sorry to have disgraced you, but you are more jerk than man.
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Boohoo, you hurt my feelings.
I would say sorry to have disgraced you, but you are more jerk than man.
sound like you are defending the grooming of children for sexual activities ?? by comparing it to shooting a gun ?
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report
Side note, Agnostic now isn’t any better than Straw, Prime and lurker when it comes being their village idiot equals.
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News Flash : Coach continues to have his threads blow up in his face nonstop.
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News Flash : Coach continues to have his threads blow up in his face nonstop.
sound like you are defending the grooming of children for sexual activities ?? by comparing it to shooting a gun ?
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Why does IRS need any ammo at all ?
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report
Side note, Agnostic now isn’t any better than Straw, Prime and lurker when it comes being their village idiot equals.
Note: This is a developing story. Check back for updates. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report
The whistleblower who raised concerns about the handling of the case is claiming the move was "clearly retaliatory." Question; who is seeking revenge against who?
Not sure who is the village idiot... guessing it is a matter of perspective. From my perspective, it is the person who reads the headlines and jumps to conclusions which would make you the village idiot. And before you get your knickers in a knot, you call several others of us village idiots first. This makes turnabout fair game.
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Note: This is a developing story. Check back for updates. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report
The whistleblower who raised concerns about the handling of the case is claiming the move was "clearly retaliatory." Question; who is seeking revenge against who?
Not sure who is the village idiot... guessing it is a matter of perspective. From my perspective, it is the person who reads the headlines and jumps to conclusions which would make you the village idiot. And before you get your knickers in a knot, you call several others of us village idiots first. This makes turnabout fair game.
Actually you are if you don’t think this isn’t any more than another cover up. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore
Hate to say, but Democrats/Communists party and anyone that buys into them are the true enemies of this country, this includes those on here. Yes, you, Lurker, Strawman (we already knew about those two) Agnostic, etc. I’m leaving Abe out of this because he has some common sense
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Cover up. Hahahahahah
Always an excuse. Never any evidence.
Living in LALA Land must be fun. :D
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-removes-entire-investigative-team-hunter-biden-probe-whistleblower-claims-retaliation-report
Side note, Agnostic now isn’t any better than Straw, Prime and lurker when it comes being their village idiot equals.
Side Side Note: Self-awareness is a valuable quality to have. You are calling us village idiots in a thread you started that was a nothing burger wrapped in Republican toilet paper. You get owned in most of the 100's of threads you start with a link and no comment, mainly because you don't bother to read past the headline. But ok... I'm an idiot ::)
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Actually you are if you don’t think this isn’t any more than another cover up. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore
Hate to say, but Democrats/Communists party and anyone that buys into them are the true enemies of this country, this includes those on here. Yes, you, Lurker, Strawman (we already knew about those two) Agnostic, etc. I’m leaving Abe out of this because he has some common sense
Ouch! being called an enemy of this country by a guy who never served hurts... Here's the reality. Any American who calls another American an enemy of the country based on political views is what is wrong with this country. I think you struggle with deciphering facts. I think you are prone to being mislead. I suspect you have been involved in MLM / pyramid schemes at some point in your life, you're just too gullible not to have been. Your latest scam you fell for just happens to be the conspiracies surrounding Trump. And that's a shame. Without that angry brainwashed mentality, you'd probably be a decent human
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Side Side Note: Self-awareness is a valuable quality to have. You are calling us village idiots in a thread you started that was a nothing burger wrapped in Republican toilet paper. You get owned in most of the 100's of threads you start with a link and no comment, mainly because you don't bother to read past the headline. But ok... I'm an idiot ::)
Qoach starts a thread
Takes an arrow in the knee right away
Abandons thread and ignores any mention of it
Rinse and repeat.
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Qoach starts a thread
Takes an arrow in the knee right away
Abandons thread and ignores any mention of it
Rinse and repeat.
I can't help but like the guy. Even though I sent my credentials to a moderator who confirmed I am what I say I am.. Coach doubts it but also doubts the election results. If coach has a super power it is being immune to facts. But I'm a pretty good judge of character and I'll be honest.. Coach is a stand up guy. He's fallen into a cult, but so have many others. I'm not going to base my entire opinion on him based on his gullibility when it comes to politics.
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Ouch! being called an enemy of this country by a guy who never served hurts... Here's the reality. Any American who calls another American an enemy of the country based on political views is what is wrong with this country. I think you struggle with deciphering facts. I think you are prone to being mislead. I suspect you have been involved in MLM / pyramid schemes at some point in your life, you're just too gullible not to have been. Your latest scam you fell for just happens to be the conspiracies surrounding Trump. And that's a shame. Without that angry brainwashed mentality, you'd probably be a decent human
LOL brainwashed...Says the guy that hoped for and encouraged death on people that refused to take the governments poison. ::)
Come on man.
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Any American who calls another American an enemy of the country based on political views is what is wrong with this country.
Any American who wishes people who didn't wear masks would die is what is wrong with this country. Know anyone like that?
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Any American who wishes people who didn't wear masks would die is what is wrong with this country. Know anyone like that?
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Nice answer. There are no "moderate" leftists...all are in the same boat.
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Nice answer. There are no "moderate" leftists...all are in the same boat.
ok
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I wouldn't say much either considering the issues you support.
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According to a report by Breitbart, the Internal Revenue Service has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying ammunition, raising concern about why a government agency is buying ammunition that the administration plans to restrict further in the coming months.
On Saturday, Congressman Matt Gaetz told Breitbart that the IRS spent approximately $700,000 “between March and June 1” purchasing ammunition.
Gaetz called the IRS’s acquisition of the ammunition “bizarre.” He said, “There is concern that this is part of a broader effort to have any entity in the federal government buy up ammo to reduce the amount of ammunition that is in supply, while at the same time, making it harder to produce ammo.”
The Congressman went on to propose a potential scenario where federal agencies are buying up ammunition and putting citizens in a situation where they cannot exercise their Second Amendment rights due to the inability to get ammunition.
He expressed concern that the government intended to reduce ammunition production “and, on the other hand, [soaks] up the supply of it.” It is something he feels is a direct violation of the rights of Americans.
usaspending.gov, the IRS’s ammunition purchases ranged from $3,201 worth of ammo at one time to $92,000+ worth of ammo at one time. The purchases were spread out over several months, according to the documents, which are publicly available.
According to a report from OpenTheBooks published in 2020, the IRS had stockpiled 4,600 guns and five million rounds of ammunition as of January 2019.
According to the Government Accountability Office the ammunition breakdown at the time included:
3,151,500 Pistol and revolver rounds
1,472,050 Rifle rounds
367,750 Shotgun rounds
56,000 Fully automatic firearm rounds
More interesting is that the IRS does not follow any regulations concerning the issuance, use, and accountability of the agency’s staff carrying such weapons. This starkly contradicts the recent push of gun control laws nationwide, including more heavily regulated training and liability.
According to reports from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA), the IRS has repeatedly failed to ensure that procedures relating to firearms are properly followed.
“There is no national-level review of firearms training records to ensure that all special agents meet the qualification requirements,” according to the report.
Furthermore, the report states that the IRS’s failure to conduct proper internal oversight of its weapons could have serious consequences for the public.
As noted by the Inspector General at the time, “If there is insufficient oversight, special agents in possession of firearms who are not properly trained and qualified could endanger other special agents and the public.”
A TIGTA report found that special agents at the IRS Criminal Investigation Division (IRS-CI) accidentally fired their weapons more often than they intentionally fired them
Additionally, the IRS has come under scrutiny in the past for the harsh tactics it used to enforce the tax code, including incidents involving armed agents. With the agency requesting tens of billions in new funding, it is not hard to see how these abuses could return.
A 1998 article by Washington Post noted many small business owners were harassed by the IRS, only for the agency to find no evidence of wrongdoing.
The only people that are buying up ammo is all of these gun nuts. The key word you left out Coach was "Criminal Division" of the IRS. Of course they are going to need to buy ammo. What...do you think they are going to shoot people who don't pay taxes??? That's what this article is clearly implying
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I can't help but like the guy. Even though I sent my credentials to a moderator who confirmed I am what I say I am.. Coach doubts it but also doubts the election results. If coach has a super power it is being immune to facts. But I'm a pretty good judge of character and I'll be honest.. Coach is a stand up guy. He's fallen into a cult, but so have many others. I'm not going to base my entire opinion on him based on his gullibility when it comes to politics.
You assessment of Coach mirrors mine. Good call!
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Nice answer. There are no "moderate" leftists...all are in the same boat.
In the real world beyond Getbig, moderates predominate regardless of their political party affiliation. No doubt there are some moderates who are members of Getbig and who wisely choose to fly under the radar.
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I can't help but like the guy. Even though I sent my credentials to a moderator who confirmed I am what I say I am.. Coach doubts it but also doubts the election results. If coach has a super power it is being immune to facts. But I'm a pretty good judge of character and I'll be honest.. Coach is a stand up guy. He's fallen into a cult, but so have many others. I'm not going to base my entire opinion on him based on his gullibility when it comes to politics.
Wait. Aren't you the knucklehead who accused me and chaos of being the same gimmick? Or was that someone else?
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Wait. Aren't you the knucklehead who accused me and chaos of being the same gimmick? Or was that someone else?
Isn’t it funny when that happens? I’m like, 7 people at this point.
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Wait. Aren't you the knucklehead who accused me and chaos of being the same gimmick? Or was that someone else?
probably someone else.. I don't pay much attention to who's gimmick is who's. I think gimmicks are juvenile
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Wait. Aren't you the knucklehead who accused me and chaos of being the same gimmick? Or was that someone else?
I'm not sure but he's definitely the same guy that wished death on anyone that didn't get the clot shot.
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I'm not sure but he's definitely the same guy that wished death on anyone that didn't get the clot shot.
Did he actually wish death upon someone or was it merely a case of saying something to the effect of not feeling sorry for someone unvaxxed who croaks?
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Did he actually wish death upon someone or was it merely a case of saying something to the effect of not feeling sorry for someone unvaxxed who croaks?
I believe he said he hoped people died that didn't get the governments poison.
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Side Side Note: Self-awareness is a valuable quality to have. You are calling us village idiots in a thread you started that was a nothing burger wrapped in Republican toilet paper. You get owned in most of the 100's of threads you start with a link and no comment, mainly because you don't bother to read past the headline. But ok... I'm an idiot ::)
Owned? I’ve asked hundreds of times to set up live debates. The fact is, I’ve owned all of you in 98% of them. You post yours, I post mine, you seem to think for whatever reason your sources are somehow more credible than mine yet you (and I’m referring to all of you) don’t bother to read it, listen to it or watch it and because I’ve got sick responding to you dolts, you want to call it “owned”.
You (all of you) don’t want to believe there’s a two tiered justice system. One for Republicans, One for Democrats and therein where the intellectual dishonesty lies. I don’t set notifications when I post on here but hey, you want to set up a debate, IM me, I get and email when I get DM’s.
As for you? You seem to think because you served that’s the only way someone can serve their country. You support Biden, you support the lefts policies which at this point is socialism/Marxism, that being said, you’re betraying your country. Plain and simple. The E Jean Carroll bullshit. You claimed to be Detective, were you a dirty cop? Did you investigate one side or both sides? I have to ask because his fake indictment was based all on hearsay. But you won’t acknowledge that and to prove you might have been a dirty cop (if you even were) you’re happy for an innocent person going to jail knowing he didn’t even do it.
You don’t think a former Republican President that blew up the status quo in Washington for decades isn’t being targeted by people that absolutely hate him, Soros DA’s in districts that are literally 95% Democrat ran (Manhattan and DC) where there is absolutely NO chance for a fair trial…..but YOU believe everything is on the up and up even though literally damn near every prominent Democrat in Congress including Biden, Obama, Clinton and Biden’s crackhead son gets away with it.
But you don’t think there’s no cover up that all of the sudden the DOJ team that was investigating Biden’s crackhead kid was just told to stop investigating. Let me ask you, Clouseau, what’s the sentence for lying on a firearms application then the person who owned the firearm ditching in a dumpster? Jail? A Fine? Both?
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On the note of your service. You might have served your country but then again so did Vindman, Mattis, McCain, Milley and Austin, with distinction tainted their military reputations by being apart of trying to overthrow a duly elected president. Shit, McCain was one of the main players in the fake Dossier.
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I wouldn't say much either considering the issues you support.
Except i'm not a Leftist and you have zilch idea the issues I support
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Oh God.. I actually never that thought we'd be here but here we are
I've been clear to the other trumpsters, not sure why you have difficulty with it.. but maybe I do. I don't support Biden. I'm against Trump. That you can't seem to understand that is par for the course.
I supported Reagan.
I supported Bush his first Term
I am an Independant Because facts matter ...
What are you
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Oh God.. I actually never that we'd be here but here we are
I've been clear to the other trumpsters, not sure why you have difficulty with it.. but maybe I do. I don't support Biden. I'm against Trump. That you can't seem to understand that is par for the course.
I supported Reagan.
I supported Bush his first Term
I am an Independant Because facts matter ...
What are you
I am similar, from a different lens. I am more libertarian/independent, and I do not want Trump at all, but I am more anti-Democrat.
Both sides have their faults, but I feel the left has gone absolutely insane collectively, and have abandoned all morals and principles to justify anything and everything to prevent another DJT presidency.
It's kind of like where we are with bhanky - he will get criticized for everything now, even the stuff that doesn't matter and is fine (t shirts, fiance, etc).
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Owned? I’ve asked hundreds of times to set up live debates. The fact is, I’ve owned all of you in 98% of them. You post yours, I post mine, you seem to think for whatever reason your sources are somehow more credible than mine yet you (and I’m referring to all of you) don’t bother to read it, listen to it or watch it and because I’ve got sick responding to you dolts, you want to call it “owned”.
You (all of you) don’t want to believe there’s a two tiered justice system. One for Republicans, One for Democrats and therein where the intellectual dishonesty lies. I don’t set notifications when I post on here but hey, you want to set up a debate, IM me, I get and email when I get DM’s.
As for you? You seem to think because you served that’s the only way someone can serve their country. You support Biden, you support the lefts policies which at this point is socialism/Marxism, that being said, you’re betraying your country. Plain and simple. The E Jean Carroll bullshit. You claimed to be Detective, were you a dirty cop? Did you investigate one side or both sides? I have to ask because his fake indictment was based all on hearsay. But you won’t acknowledge that and to prove you might have been a dirty cop (if you even were) you’re happy for an innocent person going to jail knowing he didn’t even do it.
You don’t think a former Republican President that blew up the status quo in Washington for decades isn’t being targeted by people that absolutely hate him, Soros DA’s in districts that are literally 95% Democrat ran (Manhattan and DC) where there is absolutely NO chance for a fair trial…..but YOU believe everything is on the up and up even though literally damn near every prominent Democrat in Congress including Biden, Obama, Clinton and Biden’s crackhead son gets away with it.
But you don’t think there’s no cover up that all of the sudden the DOJ team that was investigating Biden’s crackhead kid was just told to stop investigating. Let me ask you, Clouseau, what’s the sentence for lying on a firearms application then the person who owned the firearm ditching in a dumpster? Jail? A Fine? Both?
Delusional meltdown.
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Delusional meltdown.
Still not seeing anything in my DM’s
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I am similar, from a different lens. I am more libertarian/independent, and I do not want Trump at all, but I am more anti-Democrat.
Both sides have their faults, but I feel the left has gone absolutely insane collectively, and have abandoned all morals and principles to justify anything and everything to prevent another DJT presidency.
It's kind of like where we are with bhanky - he will get criticized for everything now, even the stuff that doesn't matter and is fine (t shirts, fiance, etc).
This is probably true of most people, however the fringe groups that whine the loudest attract the most attention in the media.
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This is probably true of most people, however the fringe groups that whine the loudest attract the most attention in the media.
True, but the politicians also cater to it.
That's how you get a administration that was made baced on race & gender instead of qualifications.
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True, but the politicians also cater to it.
That's how you get a administration that was made baced on race & gender instead of qualifications.
Of course, politicians have this habit of finding the smallest minority and exploiting them as the biggest problem facing our country to deflect from the horrible job that most of them do.
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True, but the politicians also cater to it.
That's how you get a administration that was made baced on race & gender instead of qualifications.
if it was enough to win an election, race and gender is clearly a big enough deal that it needs to be addressed
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Still not seeing anything in my DM’s
Still not wasting time on a retard.
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if it was enough to win an election, race and gender is clearly a big enough deal that it needs to be addressed
Are you concerned with race and genders? Pretty sure that's being pushed by media fluff, do you disagree?
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Still not wasting time on a retard.
Fine…bring your friends. Any of them.
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Fine…bring your friends. Any of them.
It has been explained to you over and over. You are just too stupid to understand a very simple fact.
It's unlikely a guy who struggles to debate coherently in a media where he has all the time in the world to fact check, get his thoughts together and type them out, would somehow be a brilliant" in real time" conversationalist. What would happen is;
"Trump lost the election by every reasonable measure. Every Republican election official, all the way to the state and US Supreme courts have weighed in in some form or fashion. Either by outright slamming his attorneys or by refusing to allow a kangaroo court because there was no evidence to move the case forward. Even Trumps Vice President and Attorney General have agreed with the elections results. In addition, every Trump supported "investigation" by his followers came up empty. "
Coach- "Thats MSM propaganda!"
I mean, how do you debate that kind of intellect?
Coach is more than welcome to demonstrate his abilities by simply responding to my statement above, with the added benefit of taking his time, gahering his thoughts and explaining why what I posted is incorrect
TL:DR - You are a retard that no one is wasting their time "debating". ::)
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Still not wasting time on a retard.
Are you referring to StrawBitch / GroomingForBoys / TheOak / Pashtun Afghanistani/ WayneTracker ?
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if it was enough to win an election, race and gender is clearly a big enough deal that it needs to be addressed
What does "addressing race and gender" mean?
Because there's a huge difference in promoting equal opportunity for success for all races and genders as opposed to making it a qualification.
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Owned? I’ve asked hundreds of times to set up live debates. The fact is, I’ve owned all of you in 98% of them. You post yours, I post mine, you seem to think for whatever reason your sources are somehow more credible than mine yet you (and I’m referring to all of you) don’t bother to read it, listen to it or watch it and because I’ve got sick responding to you dolts, you want to call it “owned”.
You (all of you) don’t want to believe there’s a two tiered justice system. One for Republicans, One for Democrats and therein where the intellectual dishonesty lies. I don’t set notifications when I post on here but hey, you want to set up a debate, IM me, I get and email when I get DM’s.
As for you? You seem to think because you served that’s the only way someone can serve their country. You support Biden, you support the lefts policies which at this point is socialism/Marxism, that being said, you’re betraying your country. Plain and simple. The E Jean Carroll bullshit. You claimed to be Detective, were you a dirty cop? Did you investigate one side or both sides? I have to ask because his fake indictment was based all on hearsay. But you won’t acknowledge that and to prove you might have been a dirty cop (if you even were) you’re happy for an innocent person going to jail knowing he didn’t even do it.
You don’t think a former Republican President that blew up the status quo in Washington for decades isn’t being targeted by people that absolutely hate him, Soros DA’s in districts that are literally 95% Democrat ran (Manhattan and DC) where there is absolutely NO chance for a fair trial…..but YOU believe everything is on the up and up even though literally damn near every prominent Democrat in Congress including Biden, Obama, Clinton and Biden’s crackhead son gets away with it.
But you don’t think there’s no cover up that all of the sudden the DOJ team that was investigating Biden’s crackhead kid was just told to stop investigating. Let me ask you, Clouseau, what’s the sentence for lying on a firearms application then the person who owned the firearm ditching in a dumpster? Jail? A Fine? Both?
There were actual live debates between you and other folks? Who knew??? How is it possible that I completely missed them. How many actual live debates have their been? FYI, here's a little math lesson for you - 98% of ZERO is still a big 0 (0 X 0.98 = 0) zip, nada, zéro, null, ぬる, शून्य, ноль.
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There were actual live debates between you and other folks? Who knew??? How is it possible that I completely missed them. How many actual live debates have their been? FYI, here's a little math lesson for you - 98% of ZERO is still a big 0 (0 X 0.98 = 0) zip, nada, zéro, null, ぬる, शून्य, ноль.
Get ready for the :
"lol.... oh boy"
"yeah right"
"prove it"
and other off topic comment that he resorts to whenever anything about his "debates" are pointed out.
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There were actual live debates between you and other folks? Who knew??? How is it possible that I completely missed them. How many actual live debates have their been? FYI, here's a little math lesson for you - 98% of ZERO is still a big 0 (0 X 0.98 = 0) zip, nada, zéro, null, ぬる, शून्य, ноль.
You’re the ones I’ve asked.
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You’re the ones I’ve asked.
It has been explained to you over and over. You are just too stupid to understand a very simple fact.
Quote from: Agnostic007 on May 16, 2023, 09:23:43 PM
It's unlikely a guy who struggles to debate coherently in a media where he has all the time in the world to fact check, get his thoughts together and type them out, would somehow be a brilliant" in real time" conversationalist. What would happen is;
"Trump lost the election by every reasonable measure. Every Republican election official, all the way to the state and US Supreme courts have weighed in in some form or fashion. Either by outright slamming his attorneys or by refusing to allow a kangaroo court because there was no evidence to move the case forward. Even Trumps Vice President and Attorney General have agreed with the elections results. In addition, every Trump supported "investigation" by his followers came up empty. "
Coach- "Thats MSM propaganda!"
I mean, how do you debate that kind of intellect?
Coach is more than welcome to demonstrate his abilities by simply responding to my statement above, with the added benefit of taking his time, gahering his thoughts and explaining why what I posted is incorrect
TL:DR - You are a retard that no one is wasting their time "debating". ::)
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Except i'm not a Leftist and you have zilch idea the issues I support
You are a liberal/progressive. Are you distinguishing that from a "leftist"?
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You are a liberal/progressive. Are you distinguishing that from a "leftist"?
I'm a decent human being. I identify as an independent. I have positions that fall to the left and to the right. In either case, I'm moderate. This board is overwhelmingly far right with the exception of maybe 5 or 8 people that participate in discussions so I do spend a lot of time combating the Coaches.. which seems to give a false impression
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I'm a decent human being. I identify as an independent. I have positions that fall to the left and to the right. In either case, I'm moderate. This board is overwhelmingly far right with the exception of maybe 5 or 8 people that participate in discussions so I do spend a lot of time combating the Coaches.. which seems to give a false impression
You already admitted that you are a liberal/progressive. And pretty much everything you post comes from a leftist point of view. That's not a criticism and doesn't have to be a bad thing. Just stating facts.
Your post is a prime example. You use the standard liberal/progressive talking point of "far right." You do not refer to the "far left." This is a common practice in the media. In the media, you often hear the labels "far right" and "right wing," but rarely if ever hear "far left" or "left wing." It's how you folks view the world. A total lack of self awareness.
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You already admitted that you are a liberal/progressive. And pretty much everything you post comes from a leftist point of view. That's not a criticism and doesn't have to be a bad thing. Just stating facts.
Your post is a prime example. You use the standard liberal/progressive talking point of "far right." You do not refer to the "far left." This is a common practice in the media. In the media, you often hear the labels "far right" and "right wing," but rarely if ever hear "far left" or "left wing." It's how you folks view the world. A total lack of self awareness.
No, to mention far left based on the conversation was irrelevant. But I don't expect you to realize that. But since you brought it up. I believe the far left and far right are equally damaging to this country
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No, to mention far left based on the conversation was irrelevant. But I don't expect you to realize that. But since you brought it up. I believe the far left and far right are equally damaging to this country
what far right views do you not like and how do they damage the USA??
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No, to mention far left based on the conversation was irrelevant. But I don't expect you to realize that. But since you brought it up. I believe the far left and far right are equally damaging to this country
I don’t believe you even know a 1/4 of the things that the left is doing because your sources don’t mention it and hide it. You just take their words for it
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I don’t believe you even know a 1/4 of the things that the left is doing because your sources don’t mention it and hide it. You just take their words for it
Enlighten me...
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You’re the ones I’ve asked.
If you are saying you asked me to debate with you in person, I don't remember this. Since I am not interested in doing that, I might have ignored your request. A live debate to me means in person and not an internet version of a debate.
As I have mentioned in posts on Getbig, even with state-of-the-art hearing aids, my hearing is not great. It is hard to debate with someone you cannot hear. It is difficult enough to have a written debate with you when you constantly change the subject or can’t seem to comprehend or chose to ignore what folks post.
My comment was that I've not witnessed you debating anyone live. If you debated someone live and not just challenged them to a debate, then we all could confirm whether you won it or not. I think you posted you win them 98% of the time. Great! Post some of those live debates on Youtube and Getbig so we can all watch you win... otherwise, your debate count stands a zero and like I said 98% of zero is zero.
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Enlighten me...
Dude..... :D
You will either get no answer, or some tirade that is - well,... no answer.
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No, to mention far left based on the conversation was irrelevant. But I don't expect you to realize that. But since you brought it up. I believe the far left and far right are equally damaging to this country
You don't mention the "far left," because you are part of the "far left."
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You don't mention the "far left," because you are part of the "far left."
It's often stunning how wrong you can be about something.
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It's often stunning how wrong you can be about something.
I'm wrong a lot. But not about this.
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I'm wrong a lot. But not about this.
And, on cue... wrong again...