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Title: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 05:06:47 AM
Start at around :55 where he begins to talk about Jay.
Is this really why they fell out? Apparently they're better now but only recently as of this year. Their falling out is one of the better kept secrets in bodybuilding. Anyone have any insight?


Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Royalty on July 03, 2022, 05:18:02 AM
I think that there was definitely more to it than that. Winning more Olympia’s than Jay would not be enough to cause Jay to not be Phil’s friend.

Maybe Phil found out that Jay was friends with Kai, and Phil started attacking Jay (along with Kai)
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 03, 2022, 05:25:19 AM
Maybe.  I could see Jay being a little salty about putting Phil on and being partly responsible for his success, only to have been surpassed by him.  The fact that it’s been kept secret probably means that it’s really boring  ;D

It’s a little ironic that Phil complains in that video about kids today not showing respect to where they came from when he doesn’t acknowledge Jay’s role in his success.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: joswift on July 03, 2022, 05:39:28 AM
maybe Jay doesnt associate with people who dump a wife with cancer or steal necklaces.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Hulkotron on July 03, 2022, 05:58:45 AM
I assume most fallings-out in BB are about tang, drug hook-ups, and/or money.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: robcguns on July 03, 2022, 06:17:27 AM
Heath just comes off as a very arrogant prick.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 06:38:09 AM
Heath just comes off as a very arrogant prick.

I agree Rob. I don't think he can help it. He's definitely more chill now. But I guess that can happen when you have grams of hormones flowing through your body and he's 42 now.

Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2022, 06:50:24 AM
Jay is white. Deep down he believes he’s better than Phil. A white meth head considers himself better than the smartest or wealthiest black man on earth. This is reality.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 06:59:09 AM
Jay is white. Deep down he believes he’s better than Phil. A white meth head considers himself better than the smartest or wealthiest black man on earth. This is reality.

Deep down how do you feel champ? Why TF are there pronouns in your thumbnail?
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
Deep down how do you feel champ?

Superior.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 07:00:31 AM
Superior.

Superior to who?
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 03, 2022, 07:04:47 AM
Superior to who?

No one. I have a BLM sign in my driveway.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 07:12:00 AM
No one. I have a BLM sign in my driveway.

Legit LOL!!!!!! ;D
You crazy bastard.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Royalty on July 03, 2022, 11:14:29 AM
The year that Phil passed Jay in Olympia wins was 2015. Phil won #5 in 2015, but he came in off that year. A lot of people felt that Shawn Rhoden beat Phil in 2015.

Perhaps Jay and Phil had a falling out because Jay told Phil that Rhoden should have won. Maybe Phil felt that Jay was just jealous.

Here is the 2015 Olympia prejudging assessment

Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Skeletor on July 03, 2022, 11:21:49 AM
Obligatory.

Phil is a real winner

Used his wife's cancer to further his career then dumped her
Abandoned his step son
Harassed and threatened and lied about a gym receptionist
Insulted police officers then deleted his insults
Photo shops his pics
Steps over the line on stage
Talks on his phone and texts takes selfies in workouts
Has his mom defend him online
Is proud about thinking he's the only bodybuilder with trading cards when it's been done before him
Looks diabetic
Talks to hammer strength incline press machines
Mangy bald spots on head
Narrow shoulders
Bird chest
Overdeveloped arms
Failed supplement company owner
Effeminate voice
Has done nothing to further bodybuilding
Lives in a shit hole
Hated by fans worldwide
No one goes to his after party
Not respected by other bodybuilder
A piece of fucking shit
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: G_Thang on July 03, 2022, 11:36:03 AM
Of the last four most recognizable Os, Jay is the worst but the most successful off stage, so what's his hangup? He has to know Ronnie Dorian and Phil are better than him. I think 4 is an overachievement for him.  Minus injuries Ronnie should have won in 2006.  For most people, he only really won 2.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 11:45:29 AM
Of the last four most recognizable Os, Jay is the worst but the most successful off stage, so what's his hangup? He has to know Ronnie Dorian and Phil are better than him. I think 4 is an overachievement for him.  Minus injuries Ronnie should have won in 2006.  For most people, he only really won 2.

Prime Jay is better than Curry. Prime Jay is better than Ramy.
Prime Jay vs. Prime Rhoden would be interesting. Prime Jay vs. Prime Phil = Phil.

I'm not wasting my time with Dorian and Ronnie because it's not worth it.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Bevo on July 03, 2022, 11:51:54 AM
Prime Jay is better than Curry. Prime Jay is better than Ramy.
Prime Jay vs. Prime Rhoden would be interesting. Prime Jay vs. Prime Phil = Phil.

I'm not wasting my time with Dorian and Ronnie because it's not worth it.

Even dexter admitted at his best he wouldn’t beat Jay at his best

2001 and 2009 Jay would beat every version of Rhoden, he’s too small next to him
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 11:59:17 AM
Even dexter admitted at his best he wouldn’t beat Jay at his best

2001 and 2009 Jay would beat every version of Rhoden, he’s too small next to him

My bad to Dex but yeah, prme Jay is better than Dex.
2018 Rhoden vs. 2009 or 01 Jay would be size vs. shape. I'll call the conditioning a draw. In 2009 Jay was 255. Rhoden was 240s. Not that big of a difference. I'm a shape guy but Rhoden's lack of triceps and average bdb hurts him vs. Jay.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Bevo on July 03, 2022, 12:07:25 PM
Mad bad to Dex. But year Prime Jay is better than Dex.
2018 Rhoden vs. 2009 or 01 Jay would be size vs. shape. I'll call the conditioning a draw. In 2009 Jay was 255. Rhoden was 240s. Not that big of a difference. I'm a shape guy but Rhoden's lack of triceps and average bdb hurts him vs. Jay.

I prefer Rhoden and dexters physique over Jay but I think weight aside, Jay is wider,, and just carries a much more thicker look to Rhoden, they are apples to oranges but imo, I think 2001 or 2009 Jay is better than Rhoden

Also Rhoden is 5’9 ish and Jay is 5’8 so that 255 is going to look a bit bigger than rhoden’s 240 ish
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Wiggs on July 03, 2022, 12:17:35 PM
I prefer Rhoden and dexters physique over Jay but I think weight aside, Jay is wider,, and just carries a much more thicker look to Rhoden, they are apples to oranges but imo, I think 2001 or 2009 Jay is better than Rhoden

Also Rhoden is 5’9 ish and Jay is 5’8 so that 255 is going to look a bit bigger than rhoden’s 240 ish

I can't argue against this.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: G_Thang on July 03, 2022, 12:19:09 PM
Of the last four most recognizable Os, Jay is the worst but the most successful off stage, so what's his hangup? He has to know Ronnie Dorian and Phil are better than him. I think 4 is an overachievement for him.  Minus injuries Ronnie should have won in 2006.  For most people, he only really won 2.

Recognizable. - Jay Phil Ronnie and Dorian

I'm not talking about Dex, Brandon and the Arab. Sorry I forgot Shawn actually won.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 03, 2022, 05:50:59 PM
I heard that Phil told Jay that his music sucks. That he shouldn't even think about being a "DJ" back when Cutler was trying to break into the music industry. Those comments by Phil although true, is what put an end to their friendship...
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: King Shizzo on July 03, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Prime Jay is better than Curry. Prime Jay is better than Ramy.
Prime Jay vs. Prime Rhoden would be interesting. Prime Jay vs. Prime Phil = Phil.

I'm not wasting my time with Dorian and Ronnie because it's not worth it.
There you have it.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Fortress on July 03, 2022, 07:27:09 PM
I heard that Phil told Jay that his music sucks. That he shouldn't even think about being a "DJ" back when Cutler was trying to break into the music industry. Those comments by Phil although true, is what put an end to their friendship...

CDs?
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: balzac on July 04, 2022, 01:31:07 PM
classic  :D

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=372914.50 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=372914.50)
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 01:34:43 PM
I heard that Phil told Jay that his music sucks. That he shouldn't even think about being a "DJ" back when Cutler was trying to break into the music industry. Those comments by Phil although true, is what put an end to their friendship...

This is true. I saw the 2 disc DVD documentary on this
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Skeletor on July 04, 2022, 01:42:33 PM
This is true. I saw the 2 disc DVD documentary on this

DVDs?

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Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: michael arvilla on July 04, 2022, 01:43:57 PM
This is true. I saw the 2 disc DVD documentary on this
“ Beats by Jay” is the shit! ….. wait ……. No it’s not  :(
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 01:44:53 PM
DVDs?

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjP9fDvp/mayorschmoe2.jpg)

Son, I am disappoint with this lack of effort. Is he vaccinated? Boosted? Sexual?
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: BB on July 04, 2022, 01:45:18 PM
Flash back to the time Phil yoinked a bracelet -

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Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: BB on July 04, 2022, 01:46:46 PM
“ Beats by Jay” is the shit! ….. wait ……. No it’s not  :(

It's big in India -

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Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 01:47:57 PM
“ Beats by Jay” is the shit! ….. wait ……. No it’s not  :(

Big Mike! I’ve had two run-ins with Jay as a young high school/early college schmoe. One at the Nutrition Depot in Pompano that changed to a Vitamin Shoppe and the other at Southern States in the mid 2000s where he guest posed and then went out into the crowd and posed on top of my buddy’s chair right next to me. Let’s just say it was schmoerific (nh). I can’t remember if this was the same show Kamali was at and Dex called him “fat boy” when we brought King up to him
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 01:50:40 PM
It's big in India -

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(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-26-2015/8Y_UDK.gif)
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: BB on July 04, 2022, 01:55:05 PM
Jay loves the kids -

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No matter how many touchdowns they scored that day, they'll always remember that front double bi.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 01:58:10 PM
Jay loves the kids -

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No matter how many touchdowns they scored that day, they'll always remember that front double bi.

“You’re going to see this guy in movies. I promise you.”

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBQo77PwEww/TTwn9OS_P0I/AAAAAAAAJnY/ZKWzSbXChzw/s1600/jay_cutler_mrOlympia_ifbb_bodybuilder_photoshoot_army_2011_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: michael arvilla on July 04, 2022, 02:00:31 PM
Big Mike! I’ve had two run-ins with Jay as a young high school/early college schmoe. One at the Nutrition Depot in Pompano that changed to a Vitamin Shoppe and the other at Southern States in the mid 2000s where he guest posed and then went out into the crowd and posed on top of my buddy’s chair right next to me. Let’s just say it was schmoerific (nh). I can’t remember if this was the same show Kamali was at and Dex called him “fat boy” when we brought King up to him
Awesome man!  … (Jay used to train At the same gym as ME / Nautilus Plus Billerica Massachusetts….he looked incredible Demayo also occasionally trained there ….when these guys were in a tank top I put my shirt back on lol! Great Motivation tho!!)
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 02:02:35 PM
Awesome man!  … (Jay used to train At the same gym as ME / Nautilus Plus Billerica Massachusetts….he looked incredible Demayo also occasionally trained there ….when these guys were in a tank top I put my shirt back on lol! Great Motivation tho!!)

That’s awesome. Was that during the Cutler Landcruiser/shirt sleeve sweatband days? You should get Aceto as your guru.

Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: michael arvilla on July 04, 2022, 04:14:06 PM
That’s awesome. Was that during the Cutler Landcruiser/shirt sleeve sweatband days? You should get Aceto as your guru.


hmmm early “90’s “ I believe (Kerry was his g/f…lived in mass still ..wore spandex / had that long hair / right before he won the “ night of the champions “ always friendly and one time I even fixed his home PC .. he met me at the store called “ Flex Appeal “ in Billerica …and I fixed it there ) just a good solid dude ! .. man I’d love to hire Aceto! ..  money is the issue and also that I’m a “ nobody “ probably wouldn’t Even work with me!
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: michael arvilla on July 04, 2022, 04:16:29 PM
I even had the “ Cutler hairdo “ lol!
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Earl1972 on July 04, 2022, 04:26:54 PM
jay is a white blonde haired blue eyed rich man

in other words, a white supremacist

that's why phil doesn't like him

E
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 04, 2022, 04:33:26 PM
I even had the “ Cutler hairdo “ lol!


Hahaha!
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 04, 2022, 05:39:33 PM
prime phil destroys jay i cant stand phil but he was fucked over,  jay is the worst looking mr olympia ever along with that goat fucker oil filled turd ramy
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 05, 2022, 06:49:24 AM
Heath just comes off as a very arrogant prick.



X2


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: pamith on July 05, 2022, 06:54:23 AM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Royalty on July 05, 2022, 07:10:11 AM
prime phil destroys jay i cant stand phil but he was fucked over,  jay is the worst looking mr olympia ever along with that goat fucker oil filled turd ramy

You cannot deny Jay’s dominant showing in 2009... he beat Dexter, Kai, Phil, Victor
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: balzac on July 05, 2022, 02:14:30 PM
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 :-\

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Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: BB on July 05, 2022, 02:20:52 PM
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Schmoebang 7 - Revenge of The Taj Mahal Teabag.
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: Rambone on July 05, 2022, 03:22:18 PM
:-\

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“Jay, can you do a quad stomp on my turban? I find the public shame and humiliation very eroticizing!”
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: balzac on July 06, 2022, 01:28:13 PM
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10th floor

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Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 06, 2022, 02:07:15 PM
I even had the “ Cutler hairdo “ lol!


You really have lived the BBing dream.

Those pants though. ;D
Title: Re: Phil vs. Jay
Post by: michael arvilla on July 06, 2022, 02:22:39 PM
You really have lived the BBing dream.

Those pants though. ;D
LOL ( thx!) ..it was the early “ 90’s” …still no excuse tho … ;D ;D ;D