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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
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DVDs?
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15 almonds a day
2 sweet potatoes
duck eggs only
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Going to need some extra cardio
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Bhanky is the resident trt expert here. Wait for his feedback.
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
Glad to hear you are joining the multitude of men going on TRT to add 1/2 inch to their arms.
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Anadrol for anemia.
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TRT (especially the cream) wont help much w/ muscle-building. (Unless a total noob (with no muscle) of course).
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Pro tip: Apply to scrotum for enhanced DHT benefits like hair loss and increased body hair to appease the bear community
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You’re going to need an extra set of (strong) hands to really massage that cream into the muscles. It’s a penetrating lotion that needs to be worked in. PM me for details.
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What was your Total and Free Test prior? The cream isnt very strong but assuming you were in fact low it should help. How much are they prescribing you?
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
Cream is useless.
But a lot of Docs will try that first before they move you to injections.
Just follow what the Doc tells you.
Most general Docs don't know much about TRT. So you might want to shop around.
My recommendation is to see an Endocrinologist.
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The other thing to think about, what most dont is your training and diet (when building muscle).
I read on forums "been on TRT for 6 months, when does the magic happen"? ::)
Uhmm, it doesnt...
The they post their workout (3 sets of 10 on cable curls, 3 sets of 10 on pec-deck, etc).
No 'progression plan', no heavy barbell training, no 'intensifiers" etc. (overload, negatives, rest-pause, etc).
Basically, training like a twink.
People always ask for the best program, there isn't one. The main thing that matters is what ohers can not measure (only you can) intensity and effort.
But Brian mentioned it, the cream isnt the best method, if you dont mind pinning yourself, you should re-visit, say the cream isnt good.
(Transferring it to wife during banging her, or whatever). :o
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The other thing to think about, what most dont is your training and diet (when building muscle).
I read on forums "been on TRT for 6 months, when does the magic happen"? ::)
Uhmm, it doesnt...
The they post their workout (3 sets of 10 on cable curls, 3 sets of 10 on pec-deck, etc).
No 'progression plan', no heavy barbell training, no 'intensifiers" etc. (overload, negatives, rest-pause, etc).
Basically, training like a twink.
People always ask for the best program, there isn't one. The main thing that matters is what ohers can not measure (only you can) intensity and effort.
But Brian mentioned it, the cream isnt the best method, if you dont mind pinning yourself, you should re-visit, say the cream isnt good.
(Transferring it to wife during banging her, or whatever). :o
"Real" TRT isn't going to build mass, not like people think.
It will certainly give you a boost if you really have low T, but you aren't going to blow up on it.
A good way to get passed the cream stage is to not use it at all, then during your next visit for blood work your Test will still be crap. They should try to move forward at this point, but not always.
But again, a lot of old school Docs are very hesitant to prescribe injections.
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I started TRT on a dose of 200/wk test cyp. I do a pretty intense training style. Put on about 20 lbs of lean tissue over a period of about 2 years. Had a lot of issues on that dose, mainly estrogen-was put on arimidex. Did some of my own research and decided to dial it back and up the frequency. I now do 50mg every three days, lost nothing and have probably put on another 10 lbs of lean tissue with zero pills and less water retention.
I will say this, I can’t measure my training intensity Vs other high level trainers as I don’t really have any here. But even when I am not at 100% everyone else at my gym thinks I am killing it. I just try to keep pushing for a little more, either up the weight, up the reps, or shorten the rest. But something has to move up at minimum every month if not week.
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You guys talk about intensity like it can be measured by reps or sets or exercises. You vant twll intensity based on that. Intensity is about how close you are trainign the muscle to failure it can be any rep range any set range and any amount or type or exercises.
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I started TRT on a dose of 200/wk test cyp. I do a pretty intense training style. Put on about 20 lbs of lean tissue over a period of about 2 years. Had a lot of issues on that dose, mainly estrogen-was put on arimidex. Did some of my own research and decided to dial it back and up the frequency. I now do 50mg every three days, lost nothing and have probably put on another 10 lbs of lean tissue with zero pills and less water retention.
I will say this, I can’t measure my training intensity Vs other high level trainers as I don’t really have any here. But even when I am not at 100% everyone else at my gym thinks I am killing it. I just try to keep pushing for a little more, either up the weight, up the reps, or shorten the rest. But something has to move up at minimum every month if not week.
How old are you Freemason?
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You guys talk about intensity like it can be measured by reps or sets or exercises. You vant twll intensity based on that. Intensity is about how close you are trainign the muscle to failure it can be any rep range any set range and any amount or type or exercises.
I can fell the intensity of this post!
Please explain that.
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
I will bet you go on the cream from penis injections quite often.
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You guys talk about intensity like it can be measured by reps or sets or exercises. You vant twll intensity based on that. Intensity is about how close you are trainign the muscle to failure it can be any rep range any set range and any amount or type or exercises.
If you know that why are you still squatting to try and improve your quads?
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Make sure you take at least 500 mg a wk, that’s the starting dosage for TRT
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How old are you Freemason?
50
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You guys talk about intensity like it can be measured by reps or sets or exercises. You vant twll intensity based on that. Intensity is about how close you are trainign the muscle to failure it can be any rep range any set range and any amount or type or exercises.
Don't get philosophical on us, Bhanky.
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Remember the acceptable doses to still be considered TRT are:
Test Cyp: 1200mg/week
Deca: 400mg/week
HGH: 6 IU/Day
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
^ This moron cited one 65-year-old man dying as "proof" that Covid is a lethal virus.
You're too stupid to be on TRT, Tom.
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my niece's boyfriend's grandfather got covid and passed, he was only 65 and had no prior issues of any kind..
LOL! What a complete dumb fuck Tom is. OOOOH, some old fuck died! I'm getting scared!!!
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HI matt, interesting to know you're obsessed with me and a comment I made on another topic how long ago? Quite normal behavior. .. thanks for seeing my name and NEEDING to post a comment. Keep the negativity going. Have a great day.
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HI matt, interesting to know you're obsessed with me and a comment I made on another topic how long ago? Quite normal behavior. .. thanks for seeing my name and NEEDING to post a comment. Keep the negativity going. Have a great day.
If you really want to get back at Matt, send Prime pics of your cock and a short vid of you stroking it. If you top out north of 6.45 inches, it will drive Matt into buying a shoe horn for his cock. ;D
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If you really want to get back at Matt, send Prime pics of your cock and a short vid of you stroking it. If you top out north of 6.45 inches, it will drive Matt into buying a shoe horn for his cock. ;D
Hahahah thanks for that laugh. I needed that.
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Hahahah thanks for that laugh. I needed that.
No problem. Having a bad day? (No homo)
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No problem. Having a bad day? (No homo)
Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
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HI matt, interesting to know you're obsessed with me and a comment I made on another topic how long ago? Quite normal behavior. .. thanks for seeing my name and NEEDING to post a comment. Keep the negativity going. Have a great day.
Tom are you new here?
This is about as normal as Matt behaves. Check the video in your PM’s, it’s the standard “welcome to Getbig” introduction. It sums up Matt in about 25 broad strokes.
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Tom are you new here?
This is about as normal as Matt behaves. Check the video in your PM’s, it’s the standard “welcome to Getbig” introduction. It sums up Matt in about 25 broad strokes.
Hahaha
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Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
It always gets worse before it gets better. Wishing your family well.
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It always gets worse before it gets better. Wishing your family well.
Thanks shizzo, you ain’t kidding.
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It always gets worse before it gets better. Wishing your family well.
I second this. Praying for that you have some peace bro.
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“… my niece’s boyfriend’s grandfather…”
No $10,000. Sorry.
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Trt is max 125mg a week. U wont grow on this.
Anyone whp is taking more , it isnt trt its a small cycle.
As soon as i start taking 200 i notice gains. But yeah a lil 125 is just a lil treat hue hue'
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Trt is max 125mg a week. U wont grow on this.
Anyone whp is taking more , it isnt trt its a small cycle.
As soon as i start taking 200 i notice gains. But yeah a lil 125 is just a lil treat hue hue'
Says who? Show me the literature that defines TRT as a max of 125mg. I have never been prescribed less than 300mg or 1.5cc a week.
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Says who? Show me the literature that defines TRT as a max of 125mg. I have never been prescribed less than 300mg or 1.5cc a week.
If levels get way out if range, is it still TRT? Most practitioners do not think that. It used to be 200mg every other week that was the standard protocol, and now it's 100mg per week on average. All TRT practitioners look at test levels in blood work. Why? If it doesn't matter. You know you are wildly out of range on 500mg.
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Says who? Show me the literature that defines TRT as a max of 125mg. I have never been prescribed less than 300mg or 1.5cc a week.
You must have the natural test levels of an 8 year old girl
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Trt is max 125mg a week. U wont grow on this.
Anyone whp is taking more , it isnt trt its a small cycle.
As soon as i start taking 200 i notice gains. But yeah a lil 125 is just a lil treat hue hue'
100-125 works well for me. Like you, if I take 200 nowadays, it's like a cycle. That being said some people do need more for varying reasons. However, I've yet to meet anyone and I mean anyone who legit needs 500 per week. Perhaps there are females who in the transition process need that much but even then, I doubt it. ;D
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
Going to be going on the "cream" instead of injections.....
Peach cobbler, 500 mg a week
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Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
Shit sorry to hear that brother all the shit always seems to be shovelled on all at once. Keeping you in thoughts Rob hoping everything works out my friend.i There if ever needed just a message away buddy
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Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
Sorry to hear this Rob... :-[
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I started TRT on a dose of 200/wk test cyp. I do a pretty intense training style. Put on about 20 lbs of lean tissue over a period of about 2 years. Had a lot of issues on that dose, mainly estrogen-was put on arimidex. Did some of my own research and decided to dial it back and up the frequency. I now do 50mg every three days, lost nothing and have probably put on another 10 lbs of lean tissue with zero pills and less water retention.
I will say this, I can’t measure my training intensity Vs other high level trainers as I don’t really have any here. But even when I am not at 100% everyone else at my gym thinks I am killing it. I just try to keep pushing for a little more, either up the weight, up the reps, or shorten the rest. But something has to move up at minimum every month if not week.
that's a low dose cycle ;D
~100mg a week is about trt, although blood values should guide dosages
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Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
sorry you are dealing w this .. it's tough watching loved ones go through health struggles.
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that's a low dose cycle ;D
~100mg a week is about trt, although blood values should guide dosages
People can put on muscle when TRT+ dosages are used (200+, etc). Just as they can w/ pro-hormones and other things.
And they up their calories. And maybe they haven't maxed out natural growth yet. Maybe not life-long/seasoned trainers.
I can say, that after training from 1978-2016 natty (38 years) very seriously and going on real TRT dose (100-125 mg) I gained zero muscle or size.
Im still in "normal/high" range (just did bloods last week) and it just helps to feel better w/ age. And maybe help with staying in shape for those who try to.
It is not magic like some may think...
(When in your 20's, and maybe had these test-levels, you didnt grow like a juiced-BB, sorry)...
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anything else I should be taking besides the usual protein, creatine, multi, etc to build muscle?...
I suggest bringing a good supply of body bags.
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I suggest bringing a good supply of body bags.
And FrogTech, definitely "dat dere FrogTech", the ultimate ANABOLIC!
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I suggest bringing a good supply of body bags.
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Gots`ta have dat dere Frog Tech fo`sho`......it`s all about being anabolic and shit.
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I second this. Praying for that you have some peace bro.
Thanks Dave, appreciate that.
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Shit sorry to hear that brother all the shit always seems to be shovelled on all at once. Keeping you in thoughts Rob hoping everything works out my friend.i There if ever needed just a message away buddy
Thanks a lot Henda much appreciated. How’s your recovery going?
sorry you are dealing w this .. it's tough watching loved ones go through health struggles.
Thanks PV69 it certainly is.
Sorry to hear this Rob... :-[
Thanks GR.
Sorry for overtaking your thread Tom. Good luck with the trt. I will say my dad has been on the cream for a year and has gotten nothing from it, no energy, no strength etc… so as someone mentioned I wouldn’t take it then get tested and move on to injectable. Or take it and will still prob need injectable.
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I think there is some good info here and not so good.
No dose is the “right” dose for anyone. Not only is everyone’s body different in both size and composition, you also have other factors like baseline levels, what your natural production is in comparison to what it should be.. or a better way to put it is how effed up is your environment, diet, and lifestyle and how is it suppressing your production.
A good HRT doctor will consider these, make a best guess for a starting point and monitor closely for the first year or two. Adjustments will be made and hopefully you will find a good dose that balances how you feel and how your body is processing the medicine. MY dose works for ME right NOW. That will change as I age and means nothing to anyone else’s situation.
HRT is part medicine and part art form. Good Drs are hard to find but they do exist.
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TRT alone just isn`t gonna` cut it......you must train yourself to ignore pain as well as to eat things that woukd make a billy goat puke.....when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be cumming at home,cumming on stage, and cumming in the gym.......imagine cumming all the time.
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TRT alone just isn`t gonna` cut it......you must train yourself to ignore pain as well as to eat things that woukd make a billy goat puke.....when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be cumming at home,cumming on stage, and cumming in the gym.......imagine cumming all the time.
Ill be back....
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Yeah just stressful job, dad had a stroke, mom has a lump in breast. Heard some bad news about another friend. When it rains it pours my friend. But this place definitely helps.
Damn Rob,that`s tough.....I hope your father makes a full recovery,and that your mom comes out of this OK as well.....stay strong my friend.
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Says who? Show me the literature that defines TRT as a max of 125mg. I have never been prescribed less than 300mg or 1.5cc a week.
Shocker the online trt doctor you shopped around for gave you way more than you need.
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It's grey area if you want to get to the exact definition of an average TRT dose from a medical standpoint. On that point, bhank is probably correct. Doctors are going to adjust dosages to get folks to normal levels. In theory, it COULD go up to 500mg, but it's not the norm, and it's likely for severe deficiencies.
But there is no denying what the average person who knows about TRT considers to be TRT, and that's where he originally misled everyone.
He has a very good build.
For what most people consider TRT, that level of size and condition would be impressive.
But, for half a gram + anadrol, it just is what it is.
The American Urological Association states that testosterone levels of between 300 ng/dl to 1000 ng/dl in men are healthy. Those that fall below this range are diagnosed with low testosterone. However, putting an individual on TRT only suffices when the physician is sure that the condition is persistent.
Doctors often start with doses of not more than 200 ng/dl and scale up as they continue with the regimen for medical TRT with the goal of reaching normal testosterone levels. This is to avoid over-medicating the patient, which can result in them being classified as abusers. Different conditions determine the testosterone dosage that will be prescribed for you. Therefore, it’s difficult to determine an average dose applicable to the masses.
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Damn Rob,that`s tough.....I hope your father makes a full recovery,and that your mom comes out of this OK as well.....stay strong my friend.
Thanks Wes, appreciate the kind words.
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oh shit, missed the robc news.....rob - keep your head up man....hoping for the best.
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oh shit, missed the robc news.....rob - keep your head up man....hoping for the best.
Thanks Grape.
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Thanks Wes, appreciate the kind words.
I`m hoping for the best outcome buddy.
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Quote from: wes on Today at 10:14:19 AM
TRT alone just isn`t gonna` cut it......you must train yourself to ignore pain as well as to eat things that woukd make a billy goat puke.....when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be cumming at home,cumming on stage, and cumming in the gym.......imagine cumming all the time.
Ill be back....
A veritable amalgamation of movie and TV shows lines. LOL ;D
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It's grey area if you want to get to the exact definition of an average TRT dose from a medical standpoint. On that point, bhank is probably correct. Doctors are going to adjust dosages to get folks to normal levels. In theory, it COULD go up to 500mg, but it's not the norm, and it's likely for severe deficiencies.
But there is no denying what the average person who knows about TRT considers to be TRT, and that's where he originally misled everyone.
He has a very good build.
For what most people consider TRT, that level of size and condition would be impressive.
But, for half a gram + anadrol, it just is what it is.
hanky's Test levels were over 2500.
That's not TRT.
He deleted the results for a reason.
No legit TRT Doc is going to put someone in that range for any reason.
The same way no real Doc on the planet would prescribe 100mg of Anadrol a day for anemia.
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I bet it was Tom's idea to go on the cream instead of injections. I also think he will come off soon or not start it at all, he will be so paranoid.
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Take care Big Rob
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hanky's Test levels were over 2500.
That's not TRT.
He deleted the results for a reason.
No legit TRT Doc is going to put someone in that range for any reason.
The same way no real Doc on the planet would prescribe 100mg of Anadrol a day for anemia.
If hes on 500mgs test he certainly wont be anaemic his RBC will be up anyway.
Imagine how anaemic he would be if he came off the test
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The cream I would put in my coffee.....injections work.
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Take care Big Rob
Thanks hulk. Appreciate it.
This place helps big time. Good group of guys and lots of humor.
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HI matt, interesting to know you're obsessed with me and a comment I made on another topic how long ago? Quite normal behavior. .. thanks for seeing my name and NEEDING to post a comment. Keep the negativity going. Have a great day.
Tom, I hate to be negative for no reason. But I'm not being negative for no reason.
Let me understand you correctly - you think Covid is a threat because you know some old piece of shit who died from it?
OH MY GOD, SOME ELDERLY PIECE OF SHIT DIED OF COVID!!! I'M GETTING SCARED!!!
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TRT alone just isn`t gonna` cut it......you must train yourself to ignore pain as well as to eat things that woukd make a billy goat puke.....when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, you will be cumming at home,cumming on stage, and cumming in the gym.......imagine cumming all the time.
what is that grasshopper Arnold???
Hang in there rob.
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Tom, I hate to be negative for no reason. But I'm not being negative for no reason.
Let me understand you correctly - you think Covid is a threat because you know some old piece of shit who died from it?
OH MY GOD, SOME ELDERLY PIECE OF SHIT DIED OF COVID!!! I'M GETTING SCARED!!!
Come on now Matt. Think how will Papa Prime feel when he reads these words. You gotta show more empathy so you can move your relationship forwards.
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Come on now Matt. Think how will Papa Prime feel when he reads these words. You gotta show more empathy so you can move your relationship forwards.
Be patient Flex. Grooming takes time.
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Come on now Matt. Think how will Papa Prime feel when he reads these words. You gotta show more empathy so you can move your relationship forwards.
A new sexy jerk off vid will probably smooth things over and get the flirting back on track
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A new sexy jerk off vid will probably smooth things over and get the flirting back on track
Good thinking
@Matt Did you use any lube or anything when you filmed that jerking off video. If not maybe try it with some baby oil on the next one. It will help you work up more speed and shoot your ropes further.
Also it has the added bonus of making your cock glisten and that will give prime a more visual treat (no homo) He will have no option, but to be impressed.
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what is that grasshopper Arnold???
Kwai Shang Caine Of Peace
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Kwai Shang Caine Of Peace
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