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Title: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 04, 2022, 05:53:27 AM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay. 
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Rambone on August 04, 2022, 06:03:18 AM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.

Look into donating power reds to really bring it down. I think it brought my hematocrit down 6 points vs. 3 points for a normal pint of blood. My trigger knowing to donate is getting flushed after a shower and legs itchy and tingling. Pretty bizarre but it has something to do with excessive red blood cells and histamine. You just want to keep an eye on your ferritin when donating a few times a year.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 04, 2022, 06:20:22 AM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.

Yup, heed this, and Henda's warning. Always do bloods 2 to 3 times a year IMO.
And don't counter-act sides with another drug, lower the dose and go from there.
I never understood that school of thought.

"I'm getting sides from doing a compound, I better take another compound to deal with those sides".
(While possibly introducing more sides from this new compound).

Brutal
True
Nikka
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Freemason on August 04, 2022, 06:49:31 AM
Great reminder and I couldn’t agree more. I do labs 4x a year some things I check every time and a CBC is one of them.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Taffin on August 04, 2022, 06:56:31 AM
No TRT here, but I'll confess that with what feels like a lot of heart issues bubbling round the sport, over the last few months I've considered going for a plaque scan (not the right name, I know) or even a full cardio-diagnostic...

Anyone do that and get any surprises..?  Am I being a wuss..?  (I mean, I know I am, but  ;D)
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: robcguns on August 04, 2022, 06:59:08 AM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.

What was your hemaglobin number?
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 04, 2022, 07:03:12 AM
I give blood regularly always feel better afterwards
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: a_pupil on August 04, 2022, 07:38:20 AM
I give blood regularly always feel better afterwards

How do you do it in the UK? On the NHS website it says they don't allow it if you take test/roids.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 04, 2022, 07:42:42 AM
How do you do it in the UK? On the NHS website it says they don't allow it if you take test/roids.

dont tell them
They screen blood anyway
They just dont want people using needles for HIV and Hepatitis
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 04, 2022, 08:01:11 AM
dont tell them
They screen blood anyway
They just dont want people using needles for HIV and Hepatitis

This.

But in the States, as far as I know, when you go on TRT your doc will give you a Rx for phlebotomy.   So they can't say no.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 04, 2022, 08:22:57 AM
This.

But in the States, as far as I know, when you go on TRT your doc will give you a Rx for phlebotomy.   So they can't say no.

I need to ask mine about it. Im always in range so it hasn't (yet) been an issue.
Was thinking of buying a kit and doing it myself.  8)
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: The Keto Kid on August 04, 2022, 08:39:30 AM
A good trt clinic will catch that right away and the doctor will tell you to donate, there's other things to do to help as well, omega 3s will thin out the blood eat a piece of salmon every few days, take a baby aspirin before bed, these little things will make a world of difference.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 04, 2022, 08:40:53 AM
What was your hemaglobin number?
Shit, I don't have the results but it was higher than it should be. 
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 04, 2022, 08:42:23 AM
A good trt clinic will catch that right away and the doctor will tell you to donate, there's other things to do to help as well, omega 3s will thin out the blood eat a piece of salmon every few days, take a baby aspirin before bed, these little things will make a world of difference.

That's what mine did.  I wanted to make sure the guys here running their own TRT or in a clinic with shitty doctors to key an eye on their labs and do them regularly
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Taffin on August 04, 2022, 09:13:41 AM
A good trt clinic will catch that right away and the doctor will tell you to donate, there's other things to do to help as well, omega 3s will thin out the blood eat a piece of salmon every few days, take a baby aspirin before bed, these little things will make a world of difference.

How about taking a baby salmon to bed every few days..?  (asking for a friend)
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 04, 2022, 10:15:27 AM
I need to ask mine about it. Im always in range so it hasn't (yet) been an issue.
Was thinking of buying a kit and doing it myself.  8)

Be careful, if you are alone and pass out you can empty yourself
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 04, 2022, 10:21:00 AM
Be careful, if you are alone and pass out you can empty yourself

I'd have my wife jab me... She said she'd be up for taking a course on it too, LOL...
Home health-care. Might come in handy in this world.

Might look into after I finish my current book "Home Cat Repair, When the Pussy Needs Patching" ...
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: GymnJuice on August 04, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
No TRT here, but I'll confess that with what feels like a lot of heart issues bubbling round the sport, over the last few months I've considered going for a plaque scan (not the right name, I know) or even a full cardio-diagnostic...

Anyone do that and get any surprises..?  Am I being a wuss..?  (I mean, I know I am, but  ;D)

You're probably talking about a calcium score. If it is high you'll be recommended a baby aspirin and a statin. If you don't want to take both or either then getting the score might not be as useful to you as doing the full workup with an echocardiogram and a stress test.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: deadz on August 04, 2022, 12:25:24 PM
Really…is that why I get labs 4+ x’s a year and donate when necessary. Eye opening…..
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: wes on August 04, 2022, 12:28:24 PM
I`ll  be starting in a week or so and with the recent goings on here, I`ll be dilligent about my health.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 04, 2022, 12:35:05 PM
I get blood work done every 3-4 months.

Donate blood when i can.

I know a guy who used to bleed himself regularly.

Not sure i'd want to do that.

You are always going to have high numbers on Test, that's what it does. But i've noticed on REAL TRT i don't have a problem. Once i go over 200mg per week things change.

Just need to manage it.

I'm shooting 50mg every 4 days right now and my last blood test was almost perfect.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2022, 12:35:34 PM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.

Regular lab work is good advice for anyone on TRT. How's your hematocrit? Mine has been at the high end of normal in the past. Giving blood brought it down. I've read about other ways to keep it within range such as drinking plenty of fluids including grapefruit juice.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 04, 2022, 03:34:02 PM
I need to ask mine about it. Im always in range so it hasn't (yet) been an issue.
Was thinking of buying a kit and doing it myself.  8)

What kind of kit?  Isn't that what that pro over on Pro M did that caused his heart attack?
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 04, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
Its strange because I am on TRT and cant guve blood due to anemia and low blood count
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ChristopherA on August 04, 2022, 03:44:58 PM
Its strange because I am on TRT and cant guve blood due to anemia and low blood count
That's odd. You know  what else is odd? You aren't on TRT
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: AbrahamG on August 04, 2022, 03:45:59 PM
Its strange because I am on TRT and cant guve blood due to anemia and low blood count

Fuck Off.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ChristopherA on August 04, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Fuck Off.
I genuinely laughed
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 04, 2022, 04:01:40 PM
Its strange because I am on TRT and cant guve blood due to anemia and low blood count

You are lying though.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: obsidian on August 04, 2022, 04:08:38 PM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.
The clinic should have told you from the start that you need to donate blood. Why did they wait this long?!

A CPAP will also help to reduced your hemoglobin. But it is a pain in the ass to use.

Be sure to take fish oil and a baby aspirin to thin your blood.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: obsidian on August 04, 2022, 04:10:19 PM
A good trt clinic will catch that right away and the doctor will tell you to donate, there's other things to do to help as well, omega 3s will thin out the blood eat a piece of salmon every few days, take a baby aspirin before bed, these little things will make a world of difference.
Yes agreed. If you take too much fish oil and aspirin though you'll be prone to nose bleeds and bloody eyes.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 04, 2022, 05:01:31 PM
Its strange because I am on TRT and cant guve blood due to anemia and low blood count

They only allow it on TRT if your hematocrit is high
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: sync pulse on August 04, 2022, 05:07:46 PM
When it gets time for me...It feels like I have to use the toilet all the time...
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 04, 2022, 05:34:40 PM
It’s been said, but donate blood every 60 days.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Rambone on August 04, 2022, 05:39:27 PM
It’s been said, but donate blood every 60 days.

As someone who has donated every 3 months while eating a heme-rich diet and still crushed his ferritin into the single digits, I’d say that is probably too frequent for most.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Henda on August 04, 2022, 06:06:55 PM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay. 

Couldn’t agree more especially after recent events haha

All my recent issues would have been avoided by doing exactly as el diablo says

I had zero symptoms of my blood count and haemoglobin being high so please don’t think have to feel like el Diablo did before there a problem just get checked please

Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 04, 2022, 08:16:40 PM
You are lying though.

 I have posted bloodwork twice showing my anemia giving blood on testosterone is another old wives tale
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 04, 2022, 08:24:27 PM
That's odd. You know  what else is odd? You aren't on TRT

Well according to my Doctor I am additionally if testosterone causes such high hemocrat and you claim I am taking a high dosage then how come my hemocrat is low while showing a hogh level of testosterone? Asditionally yeah my blood pressure is ideal yet somehow all yoi jackasses claim to be having all these sides from 125mg?? Fucking nonsense
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: obsidian on August 04, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
Well according to my Doctor I am additionally if testosterone causes such high hemocrat and you claim I am taking a high dosage then how come my hemocrat is low while showing a hogh level of testosterone? Asditionally yeah my blood pressure is ideal yet somehow all yoi jackasses claim to be having all these sides from 125mg?? Fucking nonsense
Do you take a water pill for blood pressure? Or you have low BP without any medication?
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 04, 2022, 09:29:14 PM
They only allow it on TRT if your hematocrit is high
and then they throw the blood away
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 04, 2022, 09:30:32 PM
Well according to my Doctor I am additionally if testosterone causes such high hemocrat and you claim I am taking a high dosage then how come my hemocrat is low while showing a hogh level of testosterone? Asditionally yeah my blood pressure is ideal yet somehow all yoi jackasses claim to be having all these sides from 125mg?? Fucking nonsense

235/130 isnt ideal

Do you forget posting those figures?
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 05, 2022, 12:11:03 AM
What kind of kit?  Isn't that what that pro over on Pro M did that caused his heart attack?

Not sure, ive just seen them sold on some medical sites...  Even on Ebay (LOL)  ::)
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 05, 2022, 04:02:16 AM
Do you take a water pill for blood pressure? Or you have low BP without any medication?

I do not take any Bp medications and I an in the ideal range
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 05, 2022, 04:03:14 AM
235/130 isnt ideal

Do you forget posting those figures?

Have you forgotten my most recent? Ideal
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: wes on August 05, 2022, 04:15:11 AM
Fuck doctors I have good sources and the scripts never run out.

A friend who had full blown Aids from shooting heroin who I met in an AA meeting was wasting away and had quite a few bottles of pharm grade Anadrol 50......wanted me to sell it at the gym and would give me two bottles for my trouble/time.

Anyway I used it pre-contest along with Test and Tren and was as hard as nails and stronger than a bitch..one zit was the only side effect and the insatiable urge to seek out pussy 24/7.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Rambone on August 05, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
Have you forgotten my most recent? Ideal

Beautiful numbers. Weider mind control blood pressure principles
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: wes on August 05, 2022, 04:30:24 AM
I can`t donate blood but I will be having some removed once I hop back on.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 05, 2022, 04:34:23 AM
I have posted bloodwork twice showing my anemia giving blood on testosterone is another old wives tale

Pre-TRT I always an on the high-end for Hematocrit. (47). High-end is 50 these days on the tests I take.
I just tested at 48, so not much change for me on TRT... (Still in range).
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Rambone on August 05, 2022, 04:37:51 AM
Pre-TRT I always an on the high-end for Hematocrit. (47). High-end is 50 these days on the tests I take.
I just tested at 48, so not much change for me on TRT... (Still in range).

Same for me. I’m always high 40s naturally. Test would push it into the low 50s and then it turns into a game of lowering it with donations without draining all of my iron. 
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: RJ DRIVER on August 05, 2022, 04:53:19 AM
I have been going to a sports clinic for TRT for the last couple of years.  They do regular blood tests and are always monitoring vitals when I go in.  Recently my labs showed high hemoglobin and blood count.  This is a side effect of TRT.  The side effects from the high hemoglobin were awful.  Leading up to my lab test, I had trouble sleeping.  Always restless.  Would wake up numerous times in the night gasping for air.  Sweating for no reason, felt tired and bloated.  Sure enough my labs came back showing the blood count as high.  The remedy is to remove about a pint of blood.  this totally changed everything.  I could sleep better, no more breathing issues, the tightness in my chest went away and I don't sweat for no reason.

For you guys running TRT on your own, please get labs every six months and make sure you're doing okay.
Is there a plasma Donation site near you? You could get paid to lose some blood and help the hemoglobin issue.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ChristopherA on August 05, 2022, 04:56:51 AM
Have you forgotten my most recent? Ideal
You're resting high rate is consistently around 109. Lmfao! Keep slamming the stims at 45yrs old. Great for your heart
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: GymnJuice on August 05, 2022, 05:01:15 AM
Well according to my Doctor I am additionally if testosterone causes such high hemocrat and you claim I am taking a high dosage then how come my hemocrat is low while showing a hogh level of testosterone? Asditionally yeah my blood pressure is ideal yet somehow all yoi jackasses claim to be having all these sides from 125mg?? Fucking nonsense

Because you have serious medical issues that lower your blood counts despite what you are taking.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: IroNat on August 05, 2022, 05:10:24 AM
Unless you actually have low T (rare) why put yourself through all the bullsh*t of monitoring and taking other drugs to correct TRT induced problems?

Is it really worth it for that extra 1/2" on your arms?

Just eat more eggs.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 05, 2022, 05:28:55 AM
You're resting high rate is consistently around 109. Lmfao! Keep slamming the stims at 45yrs old. Great for your heart

I dont take any stims orher than coffee honestly not my thing
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: bhank on August 05, 2022, 05:34:53 AM
This morning pre coffee
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 05, 2022, 11:02:14 AM
This morning pre coffee

are you aware lifespan is based on the number of heartbeats?
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Notomorrow on August 05, 2022, 11:47:25 AM
Consider a blood thinner like Eliquis as well. If the situation isn't critical, like others have mentioned a baby aspirin, nightly glass of red wine(all alcohol thins blood but red wine seems the best for heart), cayenne or other methods work as well.  A major risk of thick blood viscosity from test is thrombotic events, which has killed guys like Meadows and others who had blood clots.  You don't want clots, as then doctors will be afraid to do surgeries for fear a clot will break loose and kill you like supposedly killed David Dearth when he had a routine surgery. Although not heart related, Wheeler lost his leg due to a clot. Clotting issues are a major thing to avoid. Thin that blood.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 05, 2022, 12:25:38 PM
if testosterone causes such high hemocrat and you claim I am taking a high dosage then how come my hemocrat is low

You realize that not everyone has high hematocrit while on TRT or full blown cycles.  It is really a genetic thing if you have it.  The only thing I have ever heard of directly causing it to rise outside of natural causes is EQ and anadrol.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 05, 2022, 12:50:13 PM
As someone who has donated every 3 months while eating a heme-rich diet and still crushed his ferritin into the single digits, I’d say that is probably too frequent for most.

The place i donate only allows you to donate every 4 months.

But i guess you could go somewhere else.

Donating blood 2-3 times a year is plenty.

Unless you are running some serious gear.
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: Rambone on August 05, 2022, 01:18:03 PM
The place i donate only allows you to donate every 4 months.

But i guess you could go somewhere else.

Donating blood 2-3 times a year is plenty.

Unless you are running some serious gear.

Agreed
Title: Re: For those on TRT, get your blood checked
Post by: joswift on August 05, 2022, 01:47:57 PM
The place i donate only allows you to donate every 4 months.

But i guess you could go somewhere else.

Donating blood 2-3 times a year is plenty.

Unless you are running some serious gear.

I know people who go to different locations under fake names