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Title: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 10:12:00 AM
Although he's 37 years old, he's only competed three times! Fresh receptors, tight skin and a hunger for greatness.
He's 6'2 and was 298 in the finals. Once he gets shredded glutes and hamstrings, it's over for everyone including ALL 90's guys.
ANDREW JACKED...(That's his real last name)

His chest is insane, his width is insane. Small tight waist and flat symmetrical abs. Superior, Superior Nigerian Hebrew Genetics.

If I'm going to pic apart flaws, forearms, calves and conditioning. Lower body conditioning from the rear. Calves are high but not small, forearms are not too bad but could be better and as far as conditioning he jumped in the show last min. He is preparing for Arnold UK which is in 6 weeks so conditioning in lower body will improve. If it does significantly, he's top 3 Mr. O....THIS YEAR.




Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 14, 2022, 10:26:15 AM
Is that really his last name? I thought I read the score card in the other thread and Andrew was his middle name and the last name was something different. Am I thinking of someone else? Texas show right ???
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 10:31:20 AM
Is that really his last name? I thought I read the score card in the other thread and Andrew was his middle name and the last name was something different. Am I thinking of someone else? Texas show right ???

Chinedu Andrew Jacked
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2022, 10:35:51 AM
Chinedu Andrew Jacked
-^ this! Jesus his name isn’t “Andrew jacked “ ffs … Steve’s middle name is king snake ??!?  https://namesfrog.com/dumb-nicknames/ (https://namesfrog.com/dumb-nicknames/)
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 10:42:05 AM
Very good rear lat spread. Small waist.

Something about his side poses looks off. I think it’s his arms. They are too long or the muscle attachments points are not great.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 10:42:16 AM
-^ this! Jesus his name isn’t “Andrew jacked “ ffs … Steve’s middle name is king snake ??!?  https://namesfrog.com/dumb-nicknames/ (https://namesfrog.com/dumb-nicknames/)

But Mike if he goes by his middle name, his name is still Andrew Jacked.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 14, 2022, 10:45:37 AM
Chinedu Andrew Jacked

The scorecard says

Chinedu Andrew Obiekea ::)

He’s 6 ft at most, not a bad thing but not 6’2

He’s never gotten shredded glutes or hams and it’s safe to say at this stage he’s never going to,’esp at 37

The other guy that placed 5th looked better overall

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 10:47:53 AM
The scorecard says

Chinedu Andrew Obiekea ::)

If this is true than I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2022, 10:49:59 AM
But Mike if he goes by his middle name, his name is still Andrew Jacked.
no lol … his real full name is Chinedu Andrew Obiekea…not to take away from Wiggs post ..   he’s pretty damm good!
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2022, 10:50:37 AM
The scorecard says

Chinedu Andrew Obiekea ::)

He’s 6 ft at most, not a bad thing but not 6’2

Yes that’s his real name.

Flex Lewis’ first name was not really Flex.

It was Kenneth.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Hulkotron on August 14, 2022, 10:50:46 AM
According to the scorecard from the Texas show his name is Chinedu Andrew Obiekea.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 14, 2022, 10:51:57 AM
Glad he beat Kuclo and Kuclo seemed pissed  ;D

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 14, 2022, 10:53:01 AM
Yes that’s his real name.

Flex Lewis’ first name was not really Flex.

It was Kenneth.

Yes, just like brian Hankins’ real name is Bhanky
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 10:54:10 AM
Yes that’s his real name.

Flex Lewis’ first name was not really Flex.

It was Kenneth.

No it's not. It's James.
Flex Wheeler's name is Kenneth.
Lol
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 14, 2022, 10:56:10 AM
No it's not. It's James.
Flex Wheeler's name is Kenneth.
Lol

Think SF is being sarcastic   ;D
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 11:01:56 AM
Think SF is being sarcastic   ;D

Lol
BTW Andrew is definitely over 6'0. Someone I know that was at the show that was standing next to Andrew while Andrew was barefoot and the guy I know was wearing shoes said Andrew was at least 6'1 because he is 5'11 and Andrew was significantly taller than him.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 11:22:46 AM
At 37, for Andrew to surpass Ronnie, it would be almost impossible
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 14, 2022, 12:10:40 PM
At 37, for Andrew to surpass Ronnie, it would be almost impossible

Yeah in having more muscle per square inch but someone won't have to win 9 Mr. O's to be better than Ronnie, they'll just have to be better than a prime Ronnie which to me is 98 Mr. O.

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 14, 2022, 12:20:47 PM
At 37, for Andrew to surpass Ronnie, it would be almost impossible

Prime Ronnie had a more athletic overall look. This guy looks like a bunch of body parts thrown together.

Don’t get me wrong the guy is impressive but if you’re gonna compare him to Ronnie…
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: IroNat on August 14, 2022, 01:45:47 PM
Arnold's real name is Conan.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: TheShape. on August 14, 2022, 02:13:04 PM
At 37, for Andrew to surpass Ronnie, it would be almost impossible
Ronnie will probably always be the freakiest bodybuilder ever.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Gregzs on August 14, 2022, 03:27:08 PM
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-99872c.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-42d74c.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-b88528.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-67af78.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-a5fea4.jpg)
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: obsidian on August 14, 2022, 03:29:40 PM
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-99872c.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-42d74c.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-b88528.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-67af78.jpg)
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-a5fea4.jpg)
He needs to work on his posing. I feel like he is not hitting them perfectly for his physique. The left arm is too far away from his body in the side chest pose for example. It would look better if he brought it closer to his body. Maybe puff his chest like Arnold. Arnold knew how to pose.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 03:34:28 PM
I’m not super excited here...  maybe he looks better in person.


But let’s see how he looks in 6 weeks, apparently he has another show at that point in time. I’m sure that he will be more ripped-up for that contest.

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2022, 03:53:18 PM
Andrew jackoff is nowhere near this
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Taffin on August 14, 2022, 04:02:44 PM
He needs to work on his posing. I feel like he is not hitting them perfectly for his physique. The left arm is too far away from his body in the side chest pose for example. It would look better if he brought it closer to his body. Maybe puff his chest like Arnold. Arnold knew how to pose.

(http://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-42d74c.jpg)

That's a perfect example of how a shitty show background makes it harder than it has to be to pick out the silhouette/outline - how's that petition for solid black backgrounds going, anyone?!?

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 14, 2022, 04:08:16 PM
I’m not super excited here...  maybe he looks better in person.


But let’s see how he looks in 6 weeks, apparently he has another show at that point in time. I’m sure that he will be more ripped-up for that contest.

Exactly and let’s be real this was a bottom of the shit barrel pro show of course I prefer his look over those two Muslim goat 🐐 fuckers rami and his gay midget lover hammi them two fuckerd inject so much oil that is why our fucking gas is so high  ;D
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 04:34:12 PM
Exactly and let’s be real this was a bottom of the shit barrel pro show of course I prefer his look over those two Muslim goat 🐐 fuckers rami and his gay midget lover hammi them two fuckerd inject so much oil that is why our fucking gas is so high  ;D

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: robcguns on August 14, 2022, 04:37:19 PM
No fucking weigh 298.

Ronnie
Ruhl
Jay
Gunter

All outsize him by a lot.

He does look great but he’s not gonna do any such thing.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 04:41:26 PM
No fucking weigh 298.

Ronnie
Ruhl
Jay
Gunter

All outsize him by a lot.

He does look great but he’s not gonna do any such thing.

I saw this pic of Gunter today. Insane... looks like he outweighs Jay by 50lbs, and better condition
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 04:47:56 PM
This is why Heath was so dangerous. He could put anyone away on the rear double bicep pose.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 04:57:33 PM
Andrew Jacked and Michal Krizo are good for the sport, yes they have some areas to improve, but they get people interested. Because... you know that they are going to improve.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2022, 05:16:42 PM
I just watched that video that Wiggs posted …. I know he’s classic but Andrew made that guy who stole Frank McGraths wife from him …. Made him look like a child! Holy fuck!       
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: wes on August 14, 2022, 05:25:09 PM
Guy looks great but lets keep it real,he beat Kucklo.

Let`s see how he fares in is next outing before anyone here offers to blow him for Gods sake.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 05:30:55 PM
I just watched that video that Wiggs posted …. I know he’s classic but Andrew made that guy who stole Frank McGraths wife from him …. Made him look like a child! Holy fuck!       


Reminds me of Ray McNeil in some poses
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 05:35:33 PM
Substantial amount of oil in the delts
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 14, 2022, 05:40:19 PM
Guy looks great but lets keep it real,he beat Kucklo.

Let`s see how he fares in is next outing before anyone here offers to blow him for Gods sake.

What happened to Kuclo’s calves?
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: SGT BARNES on August 14, 2022, 05:41:35 PM
Chest and delts full of oil. no bueno
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: ChristopherA on August 14, 2022, 05:43:48 PM
I thought he was younger. His age will hold him back. I don't subscribe to the idea that since he hasn't been doing this long means he can be great until 50 or something. An older body is an older body. After 40 things don't work or bounce back the same. He is a breath of fresh air amongst all the bloated drug pigs currently.  But he just looks that much better because they're all so bad. The 90's guys bury him. But I'm a fan. Much rather see him than Ramy
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: ChristopherA on August 14, 2022, 05:46:59 PM
Substantial amount of oil in the delts
Watch a video of him. He is impressive the way his muscle pops off his frame. Yes, he's no Flex, Ray, or Kevin. But better than most of the shapeless blobs currently.  Q. Beastwood looks good too
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: wes on August 14, 2022, 05:48:15 PM
What happened to Kuclo’s calves?
DAMN !!!!!

It looks torn.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 14, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
DAMN !!!!!

It looks torn.

Yeah, it’s similar to the popeye torn bicep. The muscle fibers roll up to their insertion. You don’t see that too often with calves. Wonder how it happened🤔
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 14, 2022, 05:54:49 PM
Yeah, it’s similar to the popeye torn bicep. The muscle fibers roll up to their insertion. You don’t see that too often with calves. Wonder how it happened🤔

All the lifting he’s doing for a single mom and her kids, it’s bound to happen

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 14, 2022, 06:30:14 PM
(https://www2.ronnie.cz/_img/_data/clanky/foto/0038064/ronnie-cz-42d74c.jpg)

You can literally see the site injections in his calves.

Bodybuilding has gone so far past stupid.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2022, 06:46:53 PM
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: The Scott on August 14, 2022, 06:49:18 PM
He looks good.  Very good, but there is a world of difference between good, very good and in being so great you're able to take it to the bhank...Just sayin'. 

bhanky is waiting for him...In the shadows.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: The Scott on August 14, 2022, 06:51:14 PM


I will never understand this fascination some have with what these addicts eat.  It is the drugs and the caloric content that make them but apparently a poop-in-the-buttload of drugs  needs to be fueled by a toilet terrorizing ton of calories.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: beakdoctor on August 14, 2022, 06:53:14 PM
This Jacked dude looks pretty damn good in my opinion.  Calves obviously have oil a'la Dexter Jackson back in the day. Which looks really bad.

No one will ever come close to Ronnie in 03. But I do believe Ronnie blew up tge way he did because he took his body as far as humanly possible on minimal gear. He was what? 34 when he won his first O? I think this Jacked guy has potential even at 37. It's not a question of how many contests he's been in, its a question of how much gear he's blasted. I'm  no expert on anabolics but this dude looks pretty "fresh" to me.

The other guy Krizo? He does look really impressive.  He may be younger but he has a bit more of a maxed-out look to him.

But Ronnie? Fuck it's really amazing how people forget what he used to be. His size, strength, absolutely shredded. We're talking genetics that come along once in a lifetime.  Once in a millenia really. Ni k Walker is 300.lbs? So what? He looks like shit and he's gonna be dead soon.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: wes on August 14, 2022, 11:20:24 PM
Yeah, it’s similar to the popeye torn bicep. The muscle fibers roll up to their insertion. You don’t see that too often with calves. Wonder how it happened🤔
My guess would be Leg Press Calf Raises,if it is indeed a tear....you can use a ton of weight,very extreme stretch,and some morons bounce the reps.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: French on August 14, 2022, 11:57:34 PM
He is all oil, biceps, triceps, shoulder and calves.
Every competitor should have an x-ray before Olympia and be banned for life if caught.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 15, 2022, 12:06:49 AM
He is all oil, biceps, triceps, shoulder and calves.
Every competitor should have an x-ray before Olympia and be banned for life if caught.

With a lifetime ban threat...

Nick Walker, Big Ramy, Hadi, and many others would all of a sudden look a lot smaller in their arms and shoulders
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 05:36:06 AM
Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene.  ::)
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: joswift on August 15, 2022, 07:56:27 AM
Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene.  ::)
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

where do you think Yates injected Esicline?
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 07:58:38 AM
where do you think Yates injected Esicline?

Not Yates and Not Shawn Ray
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: joswift on August 15, 2022, 08:02:24 AM
Not Yates and Not Shawn Ray

Labrada
Benfatto
Paris
Priest
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 08:12:52 AM
Labrada
Benfatto
Paris
Priest

Yeah Lee Priest as well. While Paris, Labrada and Benfatto competed in the 90s, I considered them more 80s guys because thats where they competed most of their careers.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Rambone on August 15, 2022, 08:20:34 AM
Wigs: “Get used to him.”

Getbig:

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 08:24:30 AM
Wigs: “Get used to him.”

Getbig:



 ;D

I'm feeling abnormal push back against this imposing physical specimen and I'm the lube to ease him through to Getbig. 100% absolutely no homo. If I can't be the lube it's going to be forced and you'll just have to accept it.

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Rambone on August 15, 2022, 08:25:13 AM
;D

I'm feeling abnormal push back against this imposing physical specimen and I'm the lube ease him through to Getbig. 100% absolutely no homo.

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 15, 2022, 01:58:31 PM
Guy looks great but lets keep it real,he beat Kucklo.

Let`s see how he fares in is next outing before anyone here offers to blow him for Gods sake.

wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 15, 2022, 02:24:48 PM
I stopped reading at "fresh receptors".

He's a decent BBer.

Needs to drain the oil from his delts, calves and biceps.

If this is what people think will win the Mr O, BBing is truly dead.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 15, 2022, 02:33:47 PM
aaron baker would have smoked   andrew jackoff as well, and so would have prime dennis wolf and the ivory beast gary strydom -  strydom didnt have oil in his delts
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 15, 2022, 03:18:57 PM
Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene.  ::)
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

It is site enhancement oil, not site injections. There's no debate.

Right now, he's a couple of levels below Mr O contender. Advancing significantly is very hard for a guy like this.

Flex Wheeler, what we think of as the pinnacle of 90s bb was an oil disaster, much worse than any of the guys today so you are right there.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 15, 2022, 03:22:20 PM
where do you think Yates injected Esicline?

Yates claimed he only did it in his upper chest, of all places. If he did, it likely did close to nothing aesthetically.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 15, 2022, 03:26:13 PM
aaron baker would have smoked   andrew jackoff as well, and so would have prime dennis wolf and the ivory beast gary strydom -  strydom didnt have oil in his delts

If a bodybuilder has no back is he still a bodybuilder? I don't know. It's almost tragic to be cursed like that.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: michael arvilla on August 15, 2022, 03:28:17 PM
wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil
Can someone tell him the Mall is Hiring?
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 04:02:52 PM
It is site enhancement oil, not site injections. There's no debate.

Right now, he's a couple of levels below Mr O contender. Advancing significantly is very hard for a guy like this.

Flex Wheeler, what we think of as the pinnacle of 90s bb was an oil disaster, much worse than any of the guys today so you are right there.

I'm well aware of what Esicilene is, my point is while yes it inflames the muscle vs oil volumizes it, it's still BS compared to Haney's era and before. 90s guys are morally no better than post 90s guys when it comes to this stuff. Steroids, Gh, insulin, whatever. Site enhancement which oil is technically site enhancement as well is garbage.


I dont have my blinders on to Andrew and he may indeed be using site enhancement oil but he's no worse that 90s guys. They definitely don't get a pass as being morally superior. Especially Wheeler from 98 on. To me his 93 physique is still the perfect physique even at sub 220lbs.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: joswift on August 15, 2022, 04:09:06 PM
I'm well aware of what Esicilene is, my point is while yes it inflames the muscle vs oil volumizes it, it's still BS compared to Haney's era and before. 90s guys are morally no better than post 90s guys when it comes to this stuff. Steroids, Gh, insulin, whatever. Site enhancement which oil is technically site enhancement as well is garbage.


I dont have my blinders on to Andrew and he may indeed be using site enhancement oil but he's no worse that 90s guys. They definitely don't get a pass as being morally superior. Especially Wheeler from 98 on. To me his 93 physique is still the perfect physique even at sub 220lbs.

and his calves were loaded with esiciline even then
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 04:22:07 PM
and his calves were loaded with esiciline even then

Damn, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Royalty on August 15, 2022, 04:28:18 PM
Damn, didn't know that.

Shawn Ray made a big deal about it in 1993.

Apparently Shawn and Flex were training together for Flex’s 1993 pro debut. Shawn didn’t see Flex training calves... ever!  And somehow Flex’s calves were better than ever for the Ironman and ASC. Shawn called him out, indirectly, through the magazines
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Wiggs on August 15, 2022, 04:39:07 PM
Shawn Ray made a big deal about it in 1993.

Apparently Shawn and Flex were training together for Flex’s 1993 pro debut. Shawn didn’t see Flex training calves... ever!  And somehow Flex’s calves were better than ever for the Ironman and ASC. Shawn called him out, indirectly, through the magazines

That was post 93 when Shawn accused him of implants and Demilia made him get an MRI which came back negative for implants. That was around 96-97
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 15, 2022, 10:17:33 PM
Lets not act like the 90s guys (sans Yates and Shawn Ray) weren't walking around on stage filled with Esiclene.  ::)
I've seen no evidence of oil use from Andrew Jacked. Till then, I call BS. There's a difference between site injections for shots and synthol.

You’re claiming Lee Haney was full of oil?

Wiggs you’re smoking yourself stupid.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 15, 2022, 10:37:49 PM
wes kucklo is in real bad shape bro, he pays alimony child support and for therapy for his ex wife that has more money than him, this sack of shit will actually have to get a real job again, i think he would do great at star bucks or chick a fil

He won’t make it, will be in a coffin soon, and Amanda will have the last laugh, all those kuclo schmoes will have to find another bbers cock to suck off of
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Matt on August 15, 2022, 11:13:23 PM
You’re claiming Lee Haney was full of oil?

Wiggs you’re smoking yourself stupid.

I think Wiggs just meant that the guys from the 90's were pushing the envelope with whatever they had access to, by and large.

They didn't abuse synthol because it didn't exist. Esicline was the closest thing to pump in your delts, and it was no doubt widespread.

1990's guys don't deserve credit for having a more moderate mentality...they simply didn't have the substances available to abuse.

Nasser said literally all pro bodybuilders use synthol. The way he spoke about it, 100% of IFBB pro bodybuilders use it. He said synth is as common among pros as toothpaste, and then amended that statement and said synthol is as common as toilet paper among pros.

I'm sure Nasser had some idea.

RIP Nasshoil Oil Synthoilbody.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 15, 2022, 11:17:10 PM
I think Wiggs just meant that the guys from the 90's were pushing the envelope with whatever they had access to, by and large.

All BBers since the conception of drugs are the same.

There is no glory era.

It's always been about pushing the envelope.

All sports have been this way for decades. Even auto sports.

Same/same.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Matt on August 15, 2022, 11:25:24 PM
At 37, for Andrew to surpass Ronnie, it would be almost impossible

I don't think anyone will ever surpass Ronnie.

It's just my opinion, but Ronnie Coleman was the greatest bodybuilder of all time. IMO, Ronnie had no weaknesses other than his abs shape. He had a distended stomach - but what can you expect at that level of mass?

Just seeing Ronnie do side lateral raises in the UNBELIEVABLE - he just had muscle on top of muscle.

As for Andrew Jacked - did this guy just come out of nowhere? He's 37 looking like this? I must be out of the loop.

I'm not really seeing major synthol abuse in Andrew beyond normal pro use. But maybe some poses are worse than others.

For Blessing Awodibu, his arms look flexed even when they aren't.

Hopefully Andrew doesn't ruin his physique that way.

He could be a dark horse. I don't see anyone beating Ramy this year though, if everyone comes in at their previous bests.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: falco on August 16, 2022, 03:52:21 AM
I believe in the 90's there were better bodies because they did not rely as much on drugs than today.
So "natural selection" would have a part on it. Under less drugs, the genetically gifted would excell. Less drugs would make the bodies look better.
Today everyone with average genes and enough money for drugs can get big. Will look like shit, but it real doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 16, 2022, 09:48:01 AM
I'm well aware of what Esicilene is, my point is while yes it inflames the muscle vs oil volumizes it, it's still BS compared to Haney's era and before. 90s guys are morally no better than post 90s guys when it comes to this stuff. Steroids, Gh, insulin, whatever. Site enhancement which oil is technically site enhancement as well is garbage.


I dont have my blinders on to Andrew and he may indeed be using site enhancement oil but he's no worse that 90s guys. They definitely don't get a pass as being morally superior. Especially Wheeler from 98 on. To me his 93 physique is still the perfect physique even at sub 220lbs.

The stuff about Esiclene was mostly balonie. Yes it was used but Wheeler started with Synthol in 1993! You do not damage and smooth over your whole physique with an inflammatory steroid. Wheeler was a stupid fuck,  "Esiclene wasn't even illegal, it wasn't even a steroid." I don't know if Flex ever even used Esiclene, it was mostly balonie to cover up his Synthol use which most didn't even know about.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 16, 2022, 10:04:48 AM
I think Wiggs just meant that the guys from the 90's were pushing the envelope with whatever they had access to, by and large.

They didn't abuse synthol because it didn't exist. Esicline was the closest thing to pump in your delts, and it was no doubt widespread.

1990's guys don't deserve credit for having a more moderate mentality...they simply didn't have the substances available to abuse.

Nasser said literally all pro bodybuilders use synthol. The way he spoke about it, 100% of IFBB pro bodybuilders use it. He said synth is as common among pros as toothpaste, and then amended that statement and said synthol is as common as toilet paper among pros.

I'm sure Nasser had some idea.

RIP Nasshoil Oil Synthoilbody.

Shut the fuck up, weakling.

Go jerkoff for soggy old men.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 16, 2022, 02:43:57 PM
Shut the fuck up, weakling.

Go jerkoff for soggy old men.

Hahahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: beakdoctor on August 16, 2022, 04:23:40 PM
Has any other pro fell apart so quickly as Nasser? Shit he almost won in 97 and 5 years later looked like shit.

So esicline is quite a different compound than synthol? Synthol is an oil thats somewhat necrotic but esicline is more like a temporary localized steroid?

Synthol destroyed Nasser and clearly damaged Flex. Was esicline equally as toxic?

I dont know much about either but for years people have tended to discuss them interchangeably 
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: wes on August 16, 2022, 04:31:16 PM
Has any other pro fell apart so quickly as Nasser? Shit he almost won in 97 and 5 years later looked like shit.

So esicline is quite a different compound than synthol? Synthol is an oil thats somewhat necrotic but esicline is more like a temporary localized steroid?

Synthol destroyed Nasser and clearly damaged Flex. Was esicline equally as toxic?

I dont know much about either but for years people have tended to discuss them interchangeably 
https://www.steroid.com/Esiclene.php

https://caliberstrong.com/blog/what-is-synthol/
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 16, 2022, 04:43:55 PM
Has any other pro fell apart so quickly as Nasser? Shit he almost won in 97 and 5 years later looked like shit.

So esicline is quite a different compound than synthol? Synthol is an oil thats somewhat necrotic but esicline is more like a temporary localized steroid?

Synthol destroyed Nasser and clearly damaged Flex. Was esicline equally as toxic?

I dont know much about either but for years people have tended to discuss them interchangeably


Great point nassar fell apart fast rich gaspari aslo went to shit fast as well that weirdo has chest and bicep implants now and let’s women fuck his ass with dildos
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 17, 2022, 02:06:04 AM
 
Has any other pro fell apart so quickly as Nasser? Shit he almost won in 97 and 5 years later looked like shit.

So esicline is quite a different compound than synthol? Synthol is an oil thats somewhat necrotic but esicline is more like a temporary localized steroid?

Synthol destroyed Nasser and clearly damaged Flex. Was esicline equally as toxic?

I dont know much about either but for years people have tended to discuss them interchangeably

Synthol is a very bad idea all around. People make all sorts of assumptions, that it sticks around for years, that it allows more muscle gains due to stretching the fascia. All that is balonie in my opinion. This stuff cause massive scar tissue over time, that's why the disfigurement is permanent in many cases. Who thinks causing a massive amount of scar tissue is desirable? Then these geniuses pay a lot of money for massage to "reduce scar tissue" lol. Also, for some it doesn't "take," for some reason they aren't developing a lot of scar tissue.

Temporary site injections before shows I have no problem with. Unfortunately Esiclene is long gone from the market. Forum posters make too much of this Esiclene stuff. You could't build a body with it, it's just a little top-off. Though if it became available it would sell like crazy. I would try it too although I have no real use for it lol.

What's slightly interesting is that some oils have a tiny local anabolic effect so some gurus recommend a tiny amount for any bodypart you trained that day. I have no problem with the concept though I wonder if it's worth the damage from the needle prick.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: joswift on August 17, 2022, 02:20:24 AM


What's slightly interesting is that some oils have a tiny local anabolic effect so some gurus recommend a tiny amount for any bodypart you trained that day. I have no problem with the concept though I wonder if it's worth the damage from the needle prick.
pro I know who used to compete in the 70s and 80s told me they shot whichever bodypart they were training that day
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Titus Pullo on August 17, 2022, 01:44:54 PM
The stuff about Esiclene was mostly balonie. Yes it was used but Wheeler started with Synthol in 1993! You do not damage and smooth over your whole physique with an inflammatory steroid. Wheeler was a stupid fuck,  "Esiclene wasn't even illegal, it wasn't even a steroid." I don't know if Flex ever even used Esiclene, it was mostly balonie to cover up his Synthol use which most didn't even know about.

Van,

I was but a pup in bodybuilding in early '93, having trained only a year in a well-equipped basement gym before joining Gastonia's equivalent of Gold's, GAC, run by Doug Kosh and his wife. 

When all of the pre-magazine word of mouth and nonprofessional fan-taken pics spread, even big Doug, former Mr. Pennsylvania or somesuch, everyone was in awe of Wheeler.  Even the local guy who hithereto mopped up almost every title *except* for that ever elusive NC state championship win, Rodney Saunders, was blown away.  (Rodney went on to win the Carolina overall in '95, I believe.)

Anyhow, looking at his form at any of the '93 shows, I just don't see Synthol in his body then, although I would readily admit he started doing something VERY weird by '99, maybe sooner?

But back to '93:  he had awesome dryness and detail.  If he was using escilene, I'd say it was likely in his calves and delts.

Synthol? 

If so, I reckon he could have even been dabbling with the shit at the 1992 USAs, because he was almost as good then as he was in early 93.




I've no dog in this fight :)  I'm legitimately interested in when SEOs became so important.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Kwon on August 18, 2022, 02:13:21 AM
Yes that’s his real name.

Flex Lewis’ first name was not really Flex.

It was Kenneth.

What? Flex Lewis name was Kenneth just like Flex Wheeler???


Always thought Flew Lewis name was James and not Ken?
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Taffin on August 18, 2022, 03:12:43 AM
What? Flex Lewis name was Kenneth just like Flex Wheeler???


Always thought Flew Lewis name was James and not Ken?

Not quite - Flew Lewis was Jammeth Wheeler... (it's an easy mistake to make ;))
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 18, 2022, 09:25:32 AM
An all time great?

Wiggs is higher than this guy's lat insertions  :D
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Taffin on August 19, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
An all time great?

Wiggs is higher than this guy's lat insertions  :D

Higher than bhanky's maid..?
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 19, 2022, 01:28:23 PM
Higher than bhanky's maid..?

Higher than Bhanky’s hairline…
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Bevo on August 19, 2022, 01:30:56 PM
Higher than Bhanky’s hairline…

That’s really high
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 19, 2022, 05:32:59 PM
Van,

I was but a pup in bodybuilding in early '93, having trained only a year in a well-equipped basement gym before joining Gastonia's equivalent of Gold's, GAC, run by Doug Kosh and his wife. 

When all of the pre-magazine word of mouth and nonprofessional fan-taken pics spread, even big Doug, former Mr. Pennsylvania or somesuch, everyone was in awe of Wheeler.  Even the local guy who hithereto mopped up almost every title *except* for that ever elusive NC state championship win, Rodney Saunders, was blown away.  (Rodney went on to win the Carolina overall in '95, I believe.)

Anyhow, looking at his form at any of the '93 shows, I just don't see Synthol in his body then, although I would readily admit he started doing something VERY weird by '99, maybe sooner?

But back to '93:  he had awesome dryness and detail.  If he was using escilene, I'd say it was likely in his calves and delts.

Synthol? 

If so, I reckon he could have even been dabbling with the shit at the 1992 USAs, because he was almost as good then as he was in early 93.




I've no dog in this fight :)  I'm legitimately interested in when SEOs became so important.

Well, when did Shawn call out Flex on his calves, what year? The calves were Synthol. Clearly something abnormal was going on when someone like Shawn wanted X-rays of his calves. Synthol was little known in the beginning. The rumor was that Flex got it through Chris Clark. I seem to remember it was first sold in Germany I think, called Synthrol? In retrospect we knew that WSM competitor Manfred Hoeberl was using it and it was in the early 90s. But no one called him out because almost no one knew about it.
So it was calves first for Flex, and in the beginning it didn't look that bad as he hadn't developed all that scar tissue and weird lumps. Then he started shooting the rest of his body, at least delts and arms. By about 95 it had spread and many or most pros were experimenting with it. 1999 would be way late, by '99 it was at least 5 years in common use.

Who knows when exactly Shawn raised a stink about Flex' calves? Perhaps it was after the 93 Arnold Classic?

Hard to find really good pics from 93 but this pic looks suspect. The calves look too round with the legs straight.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2022, 10:06:37 PM
Shut the fuck up, weakling.

Go jerkoff for soggy old men.

Weakling?

I warm up with your workout.
Title: Re: Get used to him, he's going to be an all time great.
Post by: joswift on August 20, 2022, 02:47:16 AM
Well, when did Shawn call out Flex on his calves, what year? The calves were Synthol. Clearly something abnormal was going on when someone like Shawn wanted X-rays of his calves. Synthol was little known in the beginning. The rumor was that Flex got it through Chris Clark. I seem to remember it was first sold in Germany I think, called Synthrol? In retrospect we knew that WSM competitor Manfred Hoeberl was using it and it was in the early 90s. But no one called him out because almost no one knew about it.
So it was calves first for Flex, and in the beginning it didn't look that bad as he hadn't developed all that scar tissue and weird lumps. Then he started shooting the rest of his body, at least delts and arms. By about 95 it had spread and many or most pros were experimenting with it. 1999 would be way late, by '99 it was at least 5 years in common use.

Who knows when exactly Shawn raised a stink about Flex' calves? Perhaps it was after the 93 Arnold Classic?

Hard to find really good pics from 93 but this pic looks suspect. The calves look too round with the legs straight.