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Even if Putin withdraws, as long as he destroys Ukraine he can still claim victory because at least the West doesnt have it.
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Even if Putin withdraws, as long as he destroys Ukraine he can still claim victory because at least the West doesnt have it.
That's not accurate.
Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.
Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.
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Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.
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That's not accurate.
Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.
Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.
Valid point
Thing is we all know why the West is backing Ukraine, it isnt anything to do with Russia invading a Sovereign state, its because the West has billions invested in Ukraine.
The West had no problem invading Iraq (a sovereign state) to get rid of Saddam Hussain and killing 250k civilians in the process
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That's not accurate.
Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.
Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.
Agreed for sure.
Russia isn't going to come out of this in too bad of shape.
But Ukraine is going to be devastated.
I'm starting to think this "war" is going to continue for a while.
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Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.
So the Russians support Putin here? Or do you mean specifically the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine?
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Will this make Russian D-Bol harder to get or easier to get ?
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Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.
Slava Russia !.
;D
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Agreed for sure.
Russia isn't going to come out of this in too bad of shape.
But Ukraine is going to be devastated.
I'm starting to think this "war" is going to continue for a while.
Russia will be pretty broken if it keeps playing out like this.
Most western businesses pulled out of Russia once war broke out. That was the skilled labour which maintained and operated their oil industry. We have a labour shortage in our cafes…. They have a labour shortage of their entire oil industry.
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Russia will be pretty broken if it keeps playing out like this.
Most western businesses pulled out of Russia once war broke out. That was the skilled labour which maintained and operated their oil industry. We have a labour shortage in our cafes…. They have a labour shortage of their entire oil industry.
Seems they suspended sales and certain operations. Some seem to have completely withdrawn. I just glanced through the list.
At some point they will return, there is money involved. They aren't going to just walk away.
It seems the big oil operators are still in operation, and many have not disclosed anything. Others have stated all capex will continue.
Either way, i think it will be interesting to see what occurs first; Russia's markets opening back up or Ukraine rebuilding its entire infrastructure network.
The West is going to pump so much money into Ukraine it will be silly. So, there is hope there for sure.
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Will this make Russian D-Bol harder to get or easier to get ?
Pakistani made 1 is on sale in every SouthEastAsian pharmacy ;)
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Seems they suspended sales and certain operations. Some seem to have completely withdrawn. I just glanced through the list.
At some point they will return, there is money involved. They aren't going to just walk away.
It seems the big oil operators are still in operation, and many have not disclosed anything. Others have stated all capex will continue.
Either way, i think it will be interesting to see what occurs first; Russia's markets opening back up or Ukraine rebuilding its entire infrastructure network.
The West is going to pump so much money into Ukraine it will be silly. So, there is hope there for sure.
I think that’s an optimistic view.
We have proven capital seizure now. On top of that, unreliable supply chain with China lockdowns. We will see production begin to move around this decade, even I had a brief chat with the global CEO about moving to India (he raised it, not me). At top ‘C’ level we have advisors from tier 1 consultants like you E&Y, Deloitte, PWC and a large part of this is always risk management. It is THE number 1 worry as environmental regulation and ‘war’ are massive risks.
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Putin can claim whatever he likes. Doesn’t mean it’s true. He’s an abscess on humanity, soon to be lanced.
sort of like Ukraine...
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Things are going to escalate soon.
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Peterson, huh? Yeah, OK.
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That's not accurate.
Putin spent over a decade telling Russians that parts of Ukraine (Crimea and Donbas) were historically Russian territory. He now occupies Crimea and Donbas and is holding a referendum. The "results" are pretty certain to be that those regions want to leave Ukraine and be a part of Russia.
Putin can't withdraw as in the eyes of Russians withdrawing would be the same Russia conceding Russian territory.
I think the people in Crimea and Donbas might actually want to be part of Russia, not that I'd trust any Russian election. I doubt they'd have that referendum in Chechnya though ;D
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So the Russians support Putin here? Or do you mean specifically the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine?
Both, although now that Russians are being called up to defend those regions some have become less supportive. Funny that.
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I think the people in Crimea and Donbas might actually want to be part of Russia, not that I'd trust any Russian election. I doubt they'd have that referendum in Chechnya though ;D
Not all, but it would probably be a narrow majority. Still I doubt Putin trusts the intel he receives any more, so might as well take steps to guarantee he gets the results he wants.
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Peterson, huh? Yeah, OK.
thats a great counter argument to put forward
You should be up debating him, that will show him..
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Did Jordan Peterson recover from his mental breakdown yet?
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Did Jordan Peterson recover from his mental breakdown yet?
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Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues?? Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.
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Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues?? Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.
Good point.
I keep forgetting how “easily offended” his followers are.
Don’t want to trigger anybody.
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Thought you take the medical community seriously?
You laugh at those who have medical issues?? Hmmm... Not very professional in your area of work.
he doesnt work... ;)
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Did Jordan Peterson recover from his mental breakdown yet?
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when he was in an induced coma he was still cleverer than you
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Will this make Russian D-Bol harder to get or easier to get ?
Hopefully Alin sorted out the logistics! 😄 those little white fckrs were awesome 20 years or so ago.
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OAK , just Google: ITALIAN ELECTION :D
Bravissimo to Hard-Right leaders ( Mr.Putin friends) Matteo Salvini, Giorgia Meloni & Silvio Berlusconi !.
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Good point.
I keep forgetting how “easily offended” his followers are.
Don’t want to trigger anybody.
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Ahha Potty Boy Khunt is back again- Got any explanation as to why you deleted your post replies to me ?
Were you Triggered?
or So easily offended at your own Monumental Self Owning?
😂🤣😂😁😂
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Why would Putin "withdraw"? The levels of cope and brainwashing from NATOtards is unreal. He's basically won, he's got the ethnic Russian territories that were being genocided and they are holding a referendum this coming week to join Russia, which they almost certainly will since it guarantees the full weight of Russian military retaliation to the constant shelling that has been happening for 8 years. That territory is gone, it's Russia now and the jewish regimes of the west just have to accept reality rather than continue trying to cull the native white population.
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Good point.
I keep forgetting how “easily offended” his followers are.
Don’t want to trigger anybody.
🙂
Liar. FOL.
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Vlad dead from cancer yet?
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Why would Putin "withdraw"? The levels of cope and brainwashing from NATOtards is unreal. He's basically won, he's got the ethnic Russian territories that were being genocided and they are holding a referendum this coming week to join Russia, which they almost certainly will since it guarantees the full weight of Russian military retaliation to the constant shelling that has been happening for 8 years. That territory is gone, it's Russia now and the jewish regimes of the west just have to accept reality rather than continue trying to cull the native white population.
I'm glad you said that.
I think I'm figuring out what Jewish global control is about - it's not that Jews control the world, but I think it may be accurate to say that Jewish global financial interests sort of control the military might of the West/NATO.
So I think White countries can more or less operate freely unless they get out of line with Jewish interests, at which point, they will be crushed.
So it's not that Jews have full control of the world [and obviously individual Jewish people won't have any direct part in that control], but that the most powerful Jewish financial interests in some sense control the direction of things globally.
Something like that.
I'm also interested in learning about Jewish power. I think ultimately it's this:
Jews have disproportionate influence...not full control over things. I would also say they have pound-for-pound the most geopolitical clout.
With that said, I must say - for as smart as Jews are [very high average IQ], they had an incredibly high vaccine uptake during these recent events. That's not something I would expect from a group so intelligent. I must say - I was taken aback by that. But...I guess even the smartest people can get it wrong sometimes. Speaking of which - I think anyone underestimating Putin right now is wrong. I don't think we should risk a nuclear war lightly.
As for Jewish influence/power/control, I assume the Rothschild family is very influential, but that this meme is grossly oversimplified:
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I'm glad you said that.
I think I'm figuring out what Jewish global control is about - it's not that Jews control the world, but I think it may be accurate to say that Jewish global financial interests sort of control the military might of the West/NATO.
So I think White countries can more or less operate freely unless they get out of line with Jewish interests, at which point, they will be crushed.
So it's not that Jews have full control of the world [and obviously individual Jewish people won't have any direct part in that control], but that the most powerful Jewish financial interests in some sense control the direction of things globally.
Something like that.
I'm also interested in learning about Jewish power. I think ultimately it's this:
Jews have disproportionate influence...not full control over things. I would also say they have pound-for-pound the most geopolitical clout.
With that said, I must say - for as smart as Jews are [very high average IQ], they had an incredibly high vaccine uptake during these recent events. That's not something I would expect from a group so intelligent. I must say - I was taken aback by that. But...I guess even the smartest people can get it wrong sometimes. Speaking of which - I think anyone underestimating Putin right now is wrong. I don't think we should risk a nuclear war lightly.
As for Jewish influence/power/control, I assume the Rothschild family is very influential, but that this meme is grossly oversimplified:
For fucks sake people dont mention the Jews
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For fucks sake people dont mention the Jews
:D
For the last 48 hours Odessa was droned by SHAHED - 136 (Geranium 2 UAV) Iranian build kamikaze dron (warhead is of 30kg) , none
of Nato systems can do shit to stop them & now Odessa JEWS want to talk with Putin ;D