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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/regular-weightlifting-could-lengthen-your-life/ar-AA12ly0X?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=92e4ebf894d1485781f4620668e9b61f
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/regular-weightlifting-could-lengthen-your-life/ar-AA12ly0X?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=92e4ebf894d1485781f4620668e9b61f
When you not abusing PEDs or taking 500 mgs of "TRT" heart issues are not a problem.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/regular-weightlifting-could-lengthen-your-life/ar-AA12ly0X?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=92e4ebf894d1485781f4620668e9b61f
not everyone worried, just the folks that have had their fun with aas, overeat and still think they're healthy walking around at 240+ because they're low bf. This article is for casuals
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Yeah, these articles are pretty vague.
Doesnt apply to hardcore BB's who abuse PED's for decades. Or those with family heart issues, genetic disposition, etc.
Or those who kill themselves with junk food, fast-food, drugs, alcohol, etc.
I do agree, if someone lives rather cleanly, doesnt abuse substances and works out, it can (and will) strengthen your heart.
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I’m not sure the weights alone are enough to offset heart issues from steroids I fucked my heart despite never going above 250mg a week
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I do an executive physical twice a year and they check all of that shit. Nuclear stress test and all. Surprisingly I’m in good shape for 40’s and having family history of heart problems and my five years in college being a human trash can.
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This does not include people who abuse PEDS like yourself, Half Truth Hankins.
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I’m not sure the weights alone are enough to offset heart issues from steroids I fucked my heart despite never going above 250mg a week
Seems like your issues may have been genetic. NO ONE can beat genetics.
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aas, overeat and still think they're healthy walking around at 240+ because they're low bf.
Plus resting heart rate of 100+
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Genetics is the main thing...and luck.
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Lots of gym rats regularly indulge in junk food just because they can get away with it still being lean tnx to PEDs.
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Seems like your issues may have been genetic. NO ONE can beat genetics.
Starting to think the same mate the more people I talk to that have used more for longer and have zero issues it’s either been genetic or I been really unlucky to end up with heart failure off 250mg a week
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For Everyone is worried about Heart Problems
Translation: I'm pretty worried about heart problems, but this news story helps me live in denial.
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Fucboi Shots 10 years from now. ???
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Here`s a cold hardheated fact.....when your numbers up,your number is UP.....so carpe` diem motherfuckers !!
Stay well.
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...and while we`re at it lets not forget the 35 or so bodybuilders who died in about a years time recently.
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Translation: I'm pretty worried about heart problems, but this news story helps me live in denial.
I have no heart problems my bloodwork was great my bp is ideal and my cholesterol is low
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Starting to think the same mate the more people I talk to that have used more for longer and have zero issues it’s either been genetic or I been really unlucky to end up with heart failure off 250mg a week
Do you have an enlarged left ventricle that is most likely due to steroid use? Do you know your EF number?
Do you sometimes take "stimulants"?
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Do you have an enlarged left ventricle that is most likely due to steroid use? Do you know your EF number?
Do you sometimes take "stimulants"?
No I do not sometimes take stimulants I took one single 10mg aderall once this year other than that just coffee no preworkout no ephidren no Thyroid no DNP no clen no energy drinks no ginseng none of that coffee 1-2 cups per day and and soda thats its just caffeine from beverages no caffeein pills or sups
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No I do not sometimes take stimulants I took one single 10mg aderall once this year other than that just coffee no preworkout no ephidren no Thyroid no DNP no clen no energy drinks no ginseng none of that coffee 1-2 cups per day and and soda thats its just caffeine from beverages no caffeein pills or sups
you seem to know a lot of them..
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No I do not sometimes take stimulants I took one single 10mg aderall once this year other than that just coffee no preworkout no ephidren no Thyroid no DNP no clen no energy drinks no ginseng none of that coffee 1-2 cups per day and and soda thats its just caffeine from beverages no caffeein pills or sups
That's fine. I was asking henda though. Some people who like to go to the pub like to sometimes or oftentimes take a certain substance that can lead to heart attacks.
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No I do not sometimes take stimulants I took one single 10mg aderall once this year other than that just coffee no preworkout no ephidren no Thyroid no DNP no clen no energy drinks no ginseng none of that coffee 1-2 cups per day and and soda thats its just caffeine from beverages no caffeein pills or sups
This guy sounds like a real health nut!
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No I do not sometimes take stimulants I took one single 10mg aderall once this year other than that just coffee no preworkout no ephidren no Thyroid no DNP no clen no energy drinks no ginseng none of that coffee 1-2 cups per day and and soda thats its just caffeine from beverages no caffeein pills or sups
Is your name Henda?
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That's fine. I was asking henda though. Some people who like to go to the pub like to sometimes or oftentimes take a certain substance that can lead to heart attacks.
LOL Hank thinks Getbig is all about him, FATHEADED FUCK he is.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/regular-weightlifting-could-lengthen-your-life/ar-AA12ly0X?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=92e4ebf894d1485781f4620668e9b61f
Don't believe it. I believe all the heavy pushing/breathing associated with weights puts a strain on the heart.
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Is your name Henda?
No. Bhenda
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Don't believe it. I believe all the heavy pushing/breathing associated with weights puts a strain on the heart.
Heart is a muscle. It’s ok to exercise muscles. I realize a FFF like yourself would be clueless about exercise.
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Don't believe it. I believe all the heavy pushing/breathing associated with weights puts a strain on the heart.
So you also think jogging is bad for the heart ??
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So you also think jogging is bad for the heart ??
If you get hit by a car while jogging, definitely.
Trivia: Jim Fixx's heart exploded while running.
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If you get hit by a car while jogging, definitely.
Trivia: Jim Fixx's heart exploded while running.
Yup, Jim was a life-long smoker who had plaque issues. Tried to change his life with jogging.
No luck. Should have taken up the Thong-Sport...
I worked with a guy who died while jogging. When I heard I was a bit shocked (not that he died, but that he jogged).
Always beet-red w/ blood-pressure, over-weight, stress-ball, etc. Im guessing he just took it up (and failed)...
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Yup, Jim was a life-long smoker who had plaque issues. Tried to change his life with jogging.
No luck. Should have taken up the Thong-Sport...
I worked with a guy who died while jogging. When I heard I was a bit shocked (not that he died, but that he jogged).
Always beet-red w/ blood-pressure, over-weight, stress-ball, etc. Im guessing he just took it up (and failed)...
Don't forget that both were probably "vaxxed". ;D
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LOL Hank thinks Getbig is all about him, FATHEADED FUCK he is.
You mean it isn`t all about him ???
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Don't believe it. I believe all the heavy pushing/breathing associated with weights puts a strain on the heart.
The rumors are true.....you really are a moron.....have you been lifting long of just winning pie eating contests all these years you fucking knobslobber.
You fat lonely fucking imbecile. :D
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Do you have an enlarged left ventricle that is most likely due to steroid use? Do you know your EF number?
Do you sometimes take "stimulants"?
They never mentioned it being enlarged mate just that it’s not working right ejection fraction was 35% in hospital haven’t had it checked since so not sure if it’s improved but going off how I feel I’d assume it has. Never used stimulants other than one bottle f caffeine pills I used as a pre workout 10 years ago and used till bottle ran out and never again. Never touched recreational drugs other than weed a handful of times as a teenager
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They never mentioned it being enlarged mate just that it’s not working right ejection fraction was 35% in hospital haven’t had it checked since so not sure if it’s improved but going off how I feel I’d assume it has. Never used stimulants other than one bottle f caffeine pills I used as a pre workout 10 years ago and used till bottle ran out and never again. Never touched recreational drugs other than weed a handful of times as a teenager
I had an EF of 35 while I was in the hospital due to swine flu. It's 50 now. But they said mine was definitely due to steroids, in combination with the flu, due to the size of the left ventricle. I assume they have the size in you papers somewhere so you just have to ask, see how thick it is. Did I misread you awhile back, you said they said you have diabetes too? That would be a big risk factor for CV disease.
I have taken so many stimulants it's a wonder I didn't die 20 years ago. But the docs didn't want to hear anything other than STEROIDS! IT'S THE STEROIDS! Lol. Now I can't do anything without docs blaming steroids. I tore my bicep at work a few months back. It's the steroids. I did PT after surgery and was a bit shaky. Maybe it's the steroids the PT suggested lol. I was a bit irritated at that one. I've had a sllight tremor since I was 15 years old.
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Don't believe it. I believe all the heavy pushing/breathing associated with weights puts a strain on the heart.
I think maybe too much of repeated daily "valsalva" where you're holding your breath and straining could possibly lead to a leaky valve. I don't think it would hurt the heart muscle directly.
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I had an EF of 35 while I was in the hospital due to swine flu. It's 50 now. But they said mine was definitely due to steroids, in combination with the flu, due to the size of the left ventricle. I assume they have the size in you papers somewhere so you just have to ask, see how thick it is. Did I misread you awhile back, you said they said you have diabetes too? That would be a big risk factor for CV disease.
I have taken so many stimulants it's a wonder I didn't die 20 years ago. But the docs didn't want to hear anything other than STEROIDS! IT'S THE STEROIDS! Lol. Now I can't do anything without docs blaming steroids. I tore my bicep at work a few months back. It's the steroids. I did PT after surgery and was a bit shaky. Maybe it's the steroids the PT suggested lol. I was a bit irritated at that one. I've had a sllight tremor since I was 15 years old.
I’m now thinking my situation my heart situation was perhaps similar to yours mate as I’d had a severe bug and couldn’t stop vomiting for almost a day straight and got so dehydrated to the point I couldn’t walk due due leg cramps and started to get blurred vision and felt like I was fighting to remain conscious before I finally got taken to hospital and I insisted this was the cause of my heart attack but doctors just wanted to blame steroids and said the sickness was caused by the heart attack not the other way around. A nurse I see at the doctors surgery believes the same said she has seen it before quite a few times
I do have diabetes according to doctors but that only developed after I left hospital hb1ac was 50 at last test was 54 just after leaving hospital so is going down and I don’t take meds for it yet. Apparently it can develop when coming off testosterone according to a friend who’s a nurse but not sure?
I can imagine now they will blame every ailment you have on steroids for rest of life haha I get spoke to like a child off cardio and endo cardio consultants asking I’ve I’m “being good” staying off steroids and praising me for having doing something haha
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So you also think jogging is bad for the heart ??
aerobic exercise enlarges the heart so yes it's bad if you do it regularly over time
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Genetics is the main thing...and luck.
And stress. Long term stress over work, women, finances, etc, will do you in quick.
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And stress. Long term stress over work, women, finances, etc, will do you in quick.
true
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Don't forget that both were probably "vaxxed". ;D
VaxTardz have their own issues w/ dropping dead these days.
Though many wont believe a un-tested medication might cause issues.
Even w/ plenty of proof... Thats up to them though.
Its great we can all have our own beliefs.
The handful of folks I know that have died post-jab (ages 32 - 57), well, I know what caused theirs...
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You cant injure a healthy heart, your cardio vascular system protects it.
You would gas out before you got the point your heart could get damaged
Unhealthy hearts are trhe ones that fail.
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aerobic exercise enlarges the heart so yes it's bad if you do it regularly over time
enlarging the heart isn't the issue, it's when it's thickened
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The theory is your heart only has so many beats in it.
When you use them up you die.
Save your beats.
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An understated component of heart health is avoiding sugar (processed). This is the real problem, not saturated fat. The saturated fat narrative is a lie.
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An understated component of heart health is avoiding sugar (processed). This is the real problem, not saturated fat. The saturated fat narrative is a lie.
This.
Avoid sugar and processed carbs, flour products, etc.
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I’m now thinking my situation my heart situation was perhaps similar to yours mate as I’d had a severe bug and couldn’t stop vomiting for almost a day straight and got so dehydrated to the point I couldn’t walk due due leg cramps and started to get blurred vision and felt like I was fighting to remain conscious before I finally got taken to hospital and I insisted this was the cause of my heart attack but doctors just wanted to blame steroids and said the sickness was caused by the heart attack not the other way around. A nurse I see at the doctors surgery believes the same said she has seen it before quite a few times
I do have diabetes according to doctors but that only developed after I left hospital hb1ac was 50 at last test was 54 just after leaving hospital so is going down and I don’t take meds for it yet. Apparently it can develop when coming off testosterone according to a friend who’s a nurse but not sure?
I can imagine now they will blame every ailment you have on steroids for rest of life haha I get spoke to like a child off cardio and endo cardio consultants asking I’ve I’m “being good” staying off steroids and praising me for having doing something haha
I had been sick for over a week before hospital. I couldn't eat and had lost about 25lbs. In my case I did test positive for the swine flu. Maybe it's possible you had a virus and just didn't pop positive? I mean we had these debacles with the Covid tests.
Anabolic steroids increase insulin sensitivity so their explanation sounds reasonable. But you only used 250mg, bascally a liberal TRT. I forget now but I think they called me up for a follow up ultrasound after almost a year.
Had you felt any type of symptoms before you got sick? For example labored breathing, poor endurance or edema in ankles?
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Yup, Jim was a life-long smoker who had plaque issues. Tried to change his life with jogging.
No luck. Should have taken up the Thong-Sport...
I worked with a guy who died while jogging. When I heard I was a bit shocked (not that he died, but that he jogged).
Always beet-red w/ blood-pressure, over-weight, stress-ball, etc. Im guessing he just took it up (and failed)...
Is it possible this was the first time he jogged for the first time since becoming unhealthy? No doubt there are folks who try to do too much too soon. For example, trying to lift pondages that are completely unrealistic. Or try to do a ridiculous number of reps. Often, they are ignore that they have a heart condition or COPD and yet they try to run for miles the first time out.
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Is it possible this was the first time he jogged for the first time since becoming unhealthy? No doubt there are folks who try to do too much too soon. For example, trying to lift pondages that are completely unrealistic. Or try to do a ridiculous number of reps. Often, they are ignore that they have a heart condition or COPD and yet they try to run for miles the first time out.
Look up Jim Fixx on Google.
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Look up Jim Fixx on Google.
Jim basically started the running revolution in America. I remember at that time I was in junior high and doing several different sports so I did long distance training runs.It’s funny back then people would stop and ask if you were ok or needed a ride.Sometimes some assholes would try to splash water on you.It is rare now to drive into town and not see someone jogging.Like someone said Jim started from an unhealthy situation and even though he got into good running shape he must have still had some artery clogging.
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Lots of gym rats regularly indulge in junk food just because they can get away with it still being lean tnx to PEDs.
Very true. One of my long time friends had a truck driving Dad who was shredded 24-7 - obliques, inercostals, leg striations, the lot!. He trained 3 or 4 times a week, despite being on the road so much. And boy did he love his D-Bol and full English breakfasts...
Dropped dead in his early fifties... heart attack... left 2 sons and a great looking corpse... :'(
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I had been sick for over a week before hospital. I couldn't eat and had lost about 25lbs. In my case I did test positive for the swine flu. Maybe it's possible you had a virus and just didn't pop positive? I mean we had these debacles with the Covid tests.
Anabolic steroids increase insulin sensitivity so their explanation sounds reasonable. But you only used 250mg, bascally a liberal TRT. I forget now but I think they called me up for a follow up ultrasound after almost a year.
Had you felt any type of symptoms before you got sick? For example labored breathing, poor endurance or edema in ankles?
I had no symptoms at all mate was at work felt normal Monday was a bit more tired than usual Monday night started being sick around midnight and went to hospital late Tuesday as was severely dehydrated didn’t have any idea was having heart attack other than a bit chest pain that came on mid afternoon which I assumed was just a strain in the chest from vomiting
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I had an EF of 35 while I was in the hospital due to swine flu. It's 50 now. But they said mine was definitely due to steroids, in combination with the flu, due to the size of the left ventricle. I assume they have the size in you papers somewhere so you just have to ask, see how thick it is. Did I misread you awhile back, you said they said you have diabetes too? That would be a big risk factor for CV disease.
I have taken so many stimulants it's a wonder I didn't die 20 years ago. But the docs didn't want to hear anything other than STEROIDS! IT'S THE STEROIDS! Lol. Now I can't do anything without docs blaming steroids. I tore my bicep at work a few months back. It's the steroids. I did PT after surgery and was a bit shaky. Maybe it's the steroids the PT suggested lol. I was a bit irritated at that one. I've had a sllight tremor since I was 15 years old.
Because doctors don't know squat about steroids.
Hey Van - is there any way to run gear where it won't impact our health? Someone here once said Lou Ferrigno probably runs 1g of Test weekly for TRT. I don't know if that's true, but some of the old timers are still alive...is there a way to incorporate gear into your life while not compromising your health very much?
I would like to run additional cycles - real ones in the future - but if it's going to take a decade off my life, then I don't know...
So is that even possible? Henda taking only 250mg weekly leading to heart trouble was surprising to hear.
I have no other vices in there except maybe a few coffees a week. Say caffeine on 2-3 days out, be it coffee or an energy drink. Speaking of stimulants...you said our bodies sort of adapt to caffeine. What about the other components of a Red Bull, for instance? Do you know if they are more damaging?
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Avoid seed oils and ground yourself electrically to the earth as much as possible
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Avoid seed oils and ground yourself electrically to the earth as much as possible
Good advices
An earth-strap directly to the nut-sack, down the trouser leg and, out under your Otomix works best 8)
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Good advices
An earth-strap directly to the nut-sack, down the trouser leg and, out under your Otomix works best 8)
LOL ;D
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Look up Jim Fixx on Google.
picked up running at 36, lost 60lbs and quit smoking, and died of heart attack at 52
meanwhile his dad had a heart attack at 35 before succumbing to a second one at 43. Running likely added years to his life
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The time of your end is determined by the Fates.
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Because doctors don't know squat about steroids.
Hey Van - is there any way to run gear where it won't impact our health? Someone here once said Lou Ferrigno probably runs 1g of Test weekly for TRT. I don't know if that's true, but some of the old timers are still alive...is there a way to incorporate gear into your life while not compromising your health very much?
I would like to run additional cycles - real ones in the future - but if it's going to take a decade off my life, then I don't know...
So is that even possible? Henda taking only 250mg weekly leading to heart trouble was surprising to hear.
I have no other vices in there except maybe a few coffees a week. Say caffeine on 2-3 days out, be it coffee or an energy drink. Speaking of stimulants...you said our bodies sort of adapt to caffeine. What about the other components of a Red Bull, for instance? Do you know if they are more damaging?
ONLY 250? thats is about twice what most legit doctors would dare prescribe
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ONLY 250? thats is about twice what most legit doctors would dare prescribe
Why make up lies when you don’t know what you are talking about? 1.5-2cc a week has been my prescribed dosage from several different TRT doctors since TRT became a thing. I have been on TRT at least a decade and my blood work is great only issue is I have a slightly elevated resting heart rate but it is still in a normal range. My bp is ideal aeound 120/80 and my cholesterol is low 121 total I show no signs of kidney or liver or heart issues I do not have elevated hemocrat either none of the so called signs of death you all claim 150mg a week is going to give someone meanwhile I have been on about 400mg a week year round for 15 years.
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Why make up lies when you don’t know what you are talking about? 1.5-2cc a week has been my prescribed dosage from several different TRT doctors since TRT became a thing. I have been on TRT at least a decade and my blood work is great only issue is I have a slightly elevated resting heart rate but it is still in a normal range. My bp is ideal aeound 120/80 and my cholesterol is low 121 total I show no signs of kidney or liver or heart issues I do not have elevated hemocrat either none of the so called signs of death you all claim 150mg a week is going to give someone meanwhile I have been on about 400mg a week year round for 15 years.
Quoted for posterity.
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Very true. One of my long time friends had a truck driving Dad who was shredded 24-7 - obliques, inercostals, leg striations, the lot!. He trained 3 or 4 times a week, despite being on the road so much. And boy did he love his D-Bol and full English breakfasts...
Dropped dead in his early fifties... heart attack... left 2 sons and a great looking corpse... :'(
All truckers take speed, I'd attribute the heart issues (and shreddedness to that).
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Why make up lies when you don’t know what you are talking about? 1.5-2cc a week has been my prescribed dosage from several different TRT doctors since TRT became a thing. I have been on TRT at least a decade and my blood work is great only issue is I have a slightly elevated resting heart rate but it is still in a normal range. My bp is ideal aeound 120/80 and my cholesterol is low 121 total I show no signs of kidney or liver or heart issues I do not have elevated hemocrat either none of the so called signs of death you all claim 150mg a week is going to give someone meanwhile I have been on about 400mg a week year round for 15 years.
400 is a cycle
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When you not abusing PEDs or taking 500 mgs of "TRT" heart issues are not a problem.
Only this.
Helps stave off dementia/alzheimer's as well.
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The grim reaper fears Bhanks.
FACT
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Your body naturally produces testosterone your levels decline with age you are not going to die from taking testosterone stop the fucking nonsense
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Testosterone is a powerful compound.
Not everyone reacts the same to it. (Thick blood, prostate, heart, breast cancer in men, etc).
Blanket statements about it being "safe for all" shouldn't be used, though its pretty safe for most.
Some react badly to it.
TRT is about staying "in-range". A cycle is when you are out of range on high-end.
400-500 mg's a week brings most people to 2000-2500 total test (not TRT). (The well-known 5x factor). (900 is now the high end of normal mostly).
I dont care what drug-peddling TRT clinics call it. 400-500 is not TRT. Thats laughed at by normal Dr's.
If youre taking 400-500 and still in-range (TRT) you have some horribly under-dosed gear.
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Testosterone is a powerful compound.
Not everyone reacts the same to it. (Thick blood, prostate, heart, breast cancer in men, etc).
Blanket statements about it being "safe for all" shouldn't be used, though its pretty safe for most.
Some react badly to it.
TRT is about staying "in-range". A cycle is when you are out of range on high-end.
400-500 mg's a week brings most people to 2000-2500 total test (not TRT). (The well-known 5x factor). (900 is now the high end of normal mostly).
I dont care what drug-peddling TRT clinics call it. 400-500 is not TRT. Thats laughed at by normal Dr's.
If youre taking 400-500 and still in-range (TRT) you have some horribly under-dosed gear.
There is no clinical diagnosis for high testosterone it’s not considered dangerous at any level by the medical community they don’t even have a word for it they have plenty of words for low testosterone like hypogonadism
Additionally my buddy is on 200mg right now and at 706. 400mg is not putting him over 2k you are less sensitive as you age it takes more to reach the same level
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Quoted for posterity.
This.
PIP for when the inevitable happens.
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There is no clinical diagnosis for high testosterone it’s not considered dangerous at any level by the medical community they don’t even have a word for it they have plenty of words for low testosterone like hypogonadism
Additionally my buddy is on 200mg right now and at 706. 400mg is not putting him over 2k you are less sensitive as you age it takes more to reach the same level
Yup, the formula doesn't work out for everyone, just a large majority.
As stated, many people can process that stuff in largely different ways... .5 CC (125 mg) has me at 800 total.
A nice place for me to be and still in range. I noticed when I crept higher, my hematocrit went out of range on high end.
Brought it back down, and back in range came hematocrit...
(Did it by splitting it into two weekly shots (.25 cc or 62.5 mg) on MON and THU. Kept more stable, less of a peak...
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400 is a cycle
HES BEEN ON 500MGS A WEEK FOR 10 YEARS
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HES BEEN ON 500MGS A WEEK FOR 10 YEARS
I’ve been on no less than 500mg of TE for the past 15 yrs. Up as far a 1 gram for 8 months and several 750mg blasts for several months at a time. Labs are fine have them done 3/4 times a year. It’s Test, a hormone the body produces, not injecting poison here. Recently had an echocardiogram, cardiologist said I’m looking fine. Also had a CT Scan and it showed 0 calcium. Scary stuff this Test. ::)
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Because doctors don't know squat about steroids.
Hey Van - is there any way to run gear where it won't impact our health? Someone here once said Lou Ferrigno probably runs 1g of Test weekly for TRT. I don't know if that's true, but some of the old timers are still alive...is there a way to incorporate gear into your life while not compromising your health very much?
I would like to run additional cycles - real ones in the future - but if it's going to take a decade off my life, then I don't know...
So is that even possible? Henda taking only 250mg weekly leading to heart trouble was surprising to hear.
I have no other vices in there except maybe a few coffees a week. Say caffeine on 2-3 days out, be it coffee or an energy drink. Speaking of stimulants...you said our bodies sort of adapt to caffeine. What about the other components of a Red Bull, for instance? Do you know if they are more damaging?
Come on man, you know there's no safe cycle. But I think there's a way to use them that's probably safer than many other drugs people use long term. Today we also know what to look out for in blood work. Or even just something like blood pressure. Keep it in range and you're much safer than if you let it run high.
We can't say for sure how much Henda's test use contributed to his heart attack. 250mg isn't much. I mean Primemuscle runs 200mg and he's like 75 (?).
"Energy drinks" aren't particularly dangerous. They contain about as much caffeine as coffee. And coffee is safe, it's a goddamn antioxidant bomb that can protect various bodily systems, the liver for example.Apart from caffeine there are tiny amounts of vitamins and taurine in energy drinks. They tried to blame taurine for heart arrythmias maybe a decade ago but there's no real evidence of such. Taurine is good for the heart. They are "safe" (or as safe as coffee or a low dosed vitamin pill).
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Come on man, you know there's no safe cycle. But I think there's a way to use them that's probably safer than many other drugs people use long term. Today we also know what to look out for in blood work. Or even just something like blood pressure. Keep it in range and you're much safer than if you let it run high.
We can't say for sure how much Henda's test use contributed to his heart attack. 250mg isn't much. I mean Primemuscle runs 200mg and he's like 75 (?).
"Energy drinks" aren't particularly dangerous. They contain about as much caffeine as coffee. And coffee is safe, it's a goddamn antioxidant bomb that can protect various bodily systems, the liver for example.Apart from caffeine there are tiny amounts of vitamins and taurine in energy drinks. They tried to blame taurine for heart arrythmias maybe a decade ago but there's no real evidence of such. Taurine is good for the heart. They are "safe" (or as safe as coffee or a low dosed vitamin pill).
I think (and forgive me if I'm wrong Henda) that Henda mentioned that he didn't stay on top of his labwork, bp, etc. Prime on the other hand routinely has everything checked. Prime also has legit medical issue causing low T and his taking 200 only gets him into the normal range. @Van - what are your thoughts on using Enclomiphene for TRT purposes. It looks really promising especially for a guy like me who even on 100-125mg's per week see my BP creep up just enough to make me stop. I'm going to do a 90 day experiment and see how everything shakes out. Might be something for Henda to look into as well. Training with low T absolutely fucking sucks.
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I think (and forgive me if I'm wrong Henda) that Henda mentioned that he didn't stay on top of his labwork, bp, etc. Prime on the other hand routinely has everything checked. Prime also has legit medical issue causing low T and his taking 200 only gets him into the normal range. @Van - what are your thoughts on using Enclomiphene for TRT purposes. It looks really promising especially for a guy like me who even on 100-125mg's per week see my BP creep up just enough to make me stop. I'm going to do a 90 day experiment and see how everything shakes out. Might be something for Henda to look into as well. Training with low T absolutely fucking sucks.
I was thinking of writing something about it recently on some HRT thread. What it looks like to me, and I haven't tried enclomiphene myself, is that it, and the earlier racemic clomid, are very effective for raising test. I mean it looks like the perfect solution. But we know from bodybuilding use that clomid makes most people feel like shit, they have crying fits and just don't feel right. I have seen the same critique on HRT forums, it just doesn't make you feel good like shots of testosterone do. For those that don't know, clomifene is a synthetic estrogen which takes the place of regular estrogen in the signaling centres in the brain causing a raise in testosterone because the brain thinks it doesn't have enough testosterone (or estrogen). So it's easy to see how it could have estrogen-like effects on mood.
But no harm in trying and letting us know.
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Clomid is worse for most people than Test IMO.
The guy I mentioned earlier who cant do test because his BP, Prostate and Hematocrit all blow up like Bidens diaper, so his Doc put him on Clomid.
He's an emotional mess. (Never was before this).
He's just gonna go off everything and age now (late 60's)...
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I think (and forgive me if I'm wrong Henda) that Henda mentioned that he didn't stay on top of his labwork, bp, etc. Prime on the other hand routinely has everything checked. Prime also has legit medical issue causing low T and his taking 200 only gets him into the normal range. @Van - what are your thoughts on using Enclomiphene for TRT purposes. It looks really promising especially for a guy like me who even on 100-125mg's per week see my BP creep up just enough to make me stop. I'm going to do a 90 day experiment and see how everything shakes out. Might be something for Henda to look into as well. Training with low T absolutely fucking sucks.
Your right I didn’t mate I never took any precautions worked on the basis I’d have symptoms if blood got too thick or pressure got too high, but was right as rain one day then got sickness bug and had heart attack the next
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Why make up lies when you don’t know what you are talking about? 1.5-2cc a week has been my prescribed dosage from several different TRT doctors since TRT became a thing. I have been on TRT at least a decade and my blood work is great only issue is I have a slightly elevated resting heart rate but it is still in a normal range. My bp is ideal aeound 120/80 and my cholesterol is low 121 total I show no signs of kidney or liver or heart issues I do not have elevated hemocrat either none of the so called signs of death you all claim 150mg a week is going to give someone meanwhile I have been on about 400mg a week year round for 15 years.
You have undetectable FSH and LH levels. Not just low, undetectable. I don't know what long term ramifications that would cause you but I'd imagine there's some effect from it.
You also have low HDL levels. That is likely a side effect from what you're taking and may or may not cause you an issue down the road.
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Why make up lies when you don’t know what you are talking about? 1.5-2cc a week has been my prescribed dosage from several different TRT doctors since TRT became a thing. I have been on TRT at least a decade and my blood work is great only issue is I have a slightly elevated resting heart rate but it is still in a normal range. My bp is ideal aeound 120/80 and my cholesterol is low 121 total I show no signs of kidney or liver or heart issues I do not have elevated hemocrat either none of the so called signs of death you all claim 150mg a week is going to give someone meanwhile I have been on about 400mg a week year round for 15 years.
Did you lose your balls in a car crash?
No one is getting 400mgs a week TRT at 28
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I stopped taking my daily low dose aspirin.....doc said my blood was thin. ???
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I stopped taking my daily low dose aspirin.....doc said my blood was thin. ???
From what I understand aspirin doesn't actually thin the blood. It makes the platelets less sticky. But they may use different terms to make it easier to explain. Many scientists now say aspirin does jack shit as far as protecting the CVS. Some may use it for the anti-cancer effects, like lowering the chance of colon cancer.
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Look up Jim Fixx on Google.
Clearly, it was not Jim Fixx's first time out, but it was his last. Thanks for the suggestion. As an adult, I have not been a big fan of running. I preferred biking. So, it should be understandable that I would not have known who Jim Fixx was. Now I do.