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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ProudVirgin69 on November 24, 2022, 03:41:18 PM
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I gotta say I think he might have been, the only reason i say this is bc he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway.
(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/layne-norton-750x393.jpg)
The case against him being lifetime natural is his stage physique. It's very hard for a natty to be extremely lean and dry AND have big, full muscles on the day of the show. Some would say its impossible. I agree that some of Norton's pictures to be questionable but I'll attribute that to favorable lighting and maybe some sharpening filter.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/august/layne-norton-peak-week-stage-presence-header-960x540.jpg)
Before, in the gh15 days of calling him "Liar Norton" i thought it was 10% chance he was natural. Now I'm like 60% sure he's natural. What do you all think?
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I never believed he was natural, myself. Just because he went for a natty look doesn't mean he wasn't on a few weak orals like winny and var. But hey.... that's just like... my opinion, man.
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Absolutely. Just like Skip LaCour and Jeff Willet.
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Being 215-lb at ~15% natural may be the same LBM may be the same as being 190-lb at ~4% body fat, but they are not the same thing.
Admittedly, I always believed Layne. But let's just say, if he was natural - he's probably about as muscular as a person can get naturally.
If anyone was dedicated enough, Layne was.
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Whatever happened to his new wife Holly Baxter? Is Layne cheating again?
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All those who claim "natty" are:
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50f8cc5de4b0a0c4aab51365/1415176124420-EEV0D0YJVG7403K1T7VD/Screen+Shot+2014-11-05+at+3.27.31+AM.png)
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Before, in the gh15 days of calling him "Liar Norton" i thought it was 10% chance he was natural. Now I'm like 60% sure he's natural. What do you all think?
Of fucking course he wasn't natural. He was just on a lower dose than a lot of the other guys.
Test + orals + stims + diuretics.
Now he's probably natural (or on TRT) and he looks like he doesn't even lift. Seriously. He looks like he might have been a high school athlete in the distant past, but that's all.
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not natural
when he tore his pec years ago he shrunk to nothing over night
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He is a charlatan
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Not natty like Bhanky.
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Yes, probably was. One the very, very few. His physique sucked. Strong and driven. I don't even think he is likeable as a person but he was probably telling the truth.
Those naturals like Layne look like nothing in natural lighting say at a gym. So so thin in contest shape. It's the fantastic leanness that makes it look so good in contest pics.
One hell of a career started from nerd postings on forums.
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Whatever happened to his new wife Holly Baxter? Is Layne cheating again?
He just said he was was divorcing.
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All those who claim "natty" are:
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50f8cc5de4b0a0c4aab51365/1415176124420-EEV0D0YJVG7403K1T7VD/Screen+Shot+2014-11-05+at+3.27.31+AM.png)
Good example of the bulging delts & traps that are dead giveaway of steroids
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Absolutely. Just like Skip LaCour and Jeff Willet.
LOL not even in the same realm
(http://www.jeffwillet.com/newsite/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Side_Chest_7-1.jpg)
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Yes, probably was. One the very, very few. His physique sucked. Strong and driven. I don't even think he is likeable as a person but he was probably telling the truth.
Those naturals like Layne look like nothing in natural lighting say at a gym. So so thin in contest shape. It's the fantastic leanness that makes it look so good in contest pics.
One hell of a career started from nerd postings on forums.
Yes, naturals tend to "disappear" when viewed from the side. Some careful posing by Layne disguises it but you can still see his lack of thickness. Even in Hebrews with good bbing genetics, they lack thickness from the side.
I wouldnt be shocked if he was a juicer, even if it was just orals for the last 4-6 weeks of prep. But I wonder if he does represent the upper limit of natural bodybuilding. If not him,then who?
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Yes, naturals tend to "disappear" when viewed from the side. Some careful posing by Layne disguises it but you can still see his lack of thickness. Even in Hebrews with good bbing genetics, they lack thickness from the side.
I wouldnt be shocked if he was a juicer, even if it was just orals for the last 4-6 weeks of prep. But I wonder if he does represent the upper limit of natural bodybuilding. If not him,then who?
We can look at the old turn of the century photographs of musclemen and there were some crazy specimens, maybe not much bigger than Layne but "better."
I mostly go by the "look" and not stats, even though stats can also tell us what is reasonable. I've been here decades talking about the look and it's something few people seem to get lol. Layne siimply never had any of the enhanced signs. Say if he did sneak in a an oral for a few weeks, how relevant was it for his physique? I mean he didn't even manage to get the juiced look. Juiced but looking natural. Yes there are some of those.
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These people should be tortured until they admit that they were not Natty
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Definitly lame but i dont know about 'natural'
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I don't think so, he doesn't have the look most years, but there were periods and lean weights that are off -
https://i.imgur.com/eI0FWwK.png .
(http://www.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/231.jpg).
(https://biolayne.com/app/uploads/2019/04/fat_cover.jpg).
There were periods where he claimed to be leaner and heavier than the best champs through the WWII period, and darn near close to the best guys of the 60's - 70s eg - Pearl, Mentzer, etc....
Bobby Pandour was 5' 6" mid 150's in weight -
https://preview.redd.it/xrdyrortv5q31.png?auto=webp&s=e71f68469e6bc01e872eac28352b2d597fbfef42 .
Sandow was 190's at around Lanye's height - https://i.redd.it/dl9anfxuzoq81.jpg .
Grimek was supposedly 195ish at around Layne's height here - http://www.legendaryfitness.com/john_g9.gif .
Pearl in 1956 at similar height and #200ish -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Bill_Pearl_and_Paulette_Nelson_1956.jpg .
Etc....
Here are the #'s for the first couple of dozen Mr A winners - https://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html . Layne was bigger and leaner than almost all of them. You don't get near his leanness and weight till you're certainly in the drug years.
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Haha, what planet are some of you guys on? Do you guys know what genuine steroid-free lifters look like? They look like normal people. Every single one of them. When you diet down to single-digit bodyfat without steroids, you look starved and skinny. This so-called sport attracts some of the most mentally ill people on Earth. They'd literally rather die than admit the truth.
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Bro...
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All those who claim "natty" are:
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50f8cc5de4b0a0c4aab51365/1415176124420-EEV0D0YJVG7403K1T7VD/Screen+Shot+2014-11-05+at+3.27.31+AM.png)
BIG ACH thinks he’s natural. What an idiot.
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not natural just a bad responder
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Tbh I'm the only true natty
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Tbh I'm the only true natty
With the terrible physique you have we believe you, trust me ;D
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;)
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With the terrible physique you have we believe you, trust me ;D
My nikka
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He just said he was was divorcing.
I haven’t seen him comment on it yet. Where was this? I’ve seen that she has mentioned that they were having problems
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I haven’t seen him comment on it yet. Where was this? I’ve seen that she has mentioned that they were having problems
I saw it in a post on IG, probably deleted now? He just said they were divorcing and to respect their privacy or something like that, like he wasn't going to go into it any more than that.
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I saw it in a post on IG, probably deleted now? He just said they were divorcing and to respect their privacy or something like that, like he wasn't going to go into it any more than that.
Ohhhh, Layyyyne….
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Absolutely. Just like Skip LaCour and Jeff Willet.
IKR ;D
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Yes probably natural.
Petty personality. Get's angry at opposing views to his like it hurts him personally.
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He did nearly 4 hours on Huberman podcast earlier this month. Only caught a bit and been meaning to get back to it.
Did he rub people the wrong way on forums or something?
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not natural just a bad responder
Yeah, either a bad responder or using lower doses than the rest, but definitely not natural.
The weird, stringy physique throws people off.
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Wife went religious and very conservative the last year or two, fitness girl gossip thinks that's what caused it -
(https://external-preview.redd.it/c7QXbDFGEhwpp-5CDwhvYgC9JSZ9rivHzqoC-cpTpTA.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b725860e212a081c415d45a54bde59a4da73540d)
(https://preview.redd.it/tej7zj4zvc1a1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=546f00bf71e8e4752245dda2e1c9d77318c733c9).
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(https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/layne36_1_sm-700xh.jpg)
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/layne36_12_sm-700xh.jpg)
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Wife went religious and very conservative the last year or two, fitness girl gossip thinks that's what caused it -
(https://external-preview.redd.it/c7QXbDFGEhwpp-5CDwhvYgC9JSZ9rivHzqoC-cpTpTA.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b725860e212a081c415d45a54bde59a4da73540d)
(https://preview.redd.it/tej7zj4zvc1a1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=546f00bf71e8e4752245dda2e1c9d77318c733c9).
Thanks, BB! Beautiful copy and paste job, Layne. Really “hit us in the feels”
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I haven’t seen him comment on it yet. Where was this? I’ve seen that she has mentioned that they were having problems
These are grown ass men and women in their 30's, 40's now and they've leeched onto the zoomer generation with living out their personal lives on social media. Even A-list actors don't whore their personal lives and relationships out that directly online. What a fucking embarrassment.
Furthermore: Layne left a perfectly decent woman/wife to be with this Baxter girl. If I recall she was far more down to earth and homely looking. Look where that's got him. I don't remember if they had kids or not.
Anyway... I'm off to send Holly a DM on Insta. Wish me luck.
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These are grown ass men and women in their 30's, 40's now and they've leeched onto the zoomer generation with living out their personal lives on social media. Even A-list actors don't whore their personal lives and relationships out that directly online. What a fucking embarrassment.
Furthermore: Layne left a perfectly decent woman/wife to be with this Baxter girl. If I recall she was far more down to earth and homely looking. Look where that's got him. I don't remember if they had kids or not.
Anyway... I'm off to send Holly a DM on Insta. Wish me luck.
Isabel was very good looking herself, and in very good shape.
I met her and Layne together first at the 2007 Arnold Classic, and many times after that.
She is Puerto Rican, but I can't remember what percentage. She may be full Puerto Rican. If I recall correctly, one of her grandmothers was a Mullato or Octaroon. So Isabel may be something like 5% African by genetics.
I remember I couldn't exactly pin down her look, but she explained it to me, and it made sense.
Very sexy.
Some would argue that Holly is better looking, but she is just newer.
When Isabel was pregnant, I told her that Layne and I have very similar views, but I never cared for his taste in music [Thrash Metal? I don't know]. She got very mad at me for that.
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(https://preview.redd.it/tej7zj4zvc1a1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=546f00bf71e8e4752245dda2e1c9d77318c733c9)
Hotter than Dutch love.
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Possibly natural.
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I don't think so, he doesn't have the look most years, but there were periods and lean weights that are off -
https://i.imgur.com/eI0FWwK.png .
(http://www.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/231.jpg).
(https://biolayne.com/app/uploads/2019/04/fat_cover.jpg).
There were periods where he claimed to be leaner and heavier than the best champs through the WWII period, and darn near close to the best guys of the 60's - 70s eg - Pearl, Mentzer, etc....
Bobby Pandour was 5' 6" mid 150's in weight -
https://preview.redd.it/xrdyrortv5q31.png?auto=webp&s=e71f68469e6bc01e872eac28352b2d597fbfef42 .
Sandow was 190's at around Lanye's height - https://i.redd.it/dl9anfxuzoq81.jpg .
Grimek was supposedly 195ish at around Layne's height here - http://www.legendaryfitness.com/john_g9.gif .
Pearl in 1956 at similar height and #200ish -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Bill_Pearl_and_Paulette_Nelson_1956.jpg .
Etc....
Here are the #'s for the first couple of dozen Mr A winners - https://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html . Layne was bigger and leaner than almost all of them. You don't get near his leanness and weight till you're certainly in the drug years.
Its simply not possible. On a smaller scale? Maybe.
He is jacked and lean. No.
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All lighting and angles.
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No sense of lying anymore. The gig is up. These guys are perpetual liars.
The fact that they think that people actually believe them is mind blowing.
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Yeah, either a bad responder or using lower doses than the rest, but definitely not natural.
The weird, stringy physique throws people off.
It’s funny, natural with superior genetics is indistinguishable from juicer with shitty genetics
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No sense of lying anymore. The gig is up. These guys are perpetual liars.
The fact that they think that people actually believe them is mind blowing.
Just like we are supposed to believe that you are gay, and work at AutoZone.
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It’s funny, natural with superior genetics is indistinguishable from juicer with shitty genetics
Groink was natural.
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I don't think so, he doesn't have the look most years, but there were periods and lean weights that are off -
https://i.imgur.com/eI0FWwK.png .
(http://www.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/231.jpg).
(https://biolayne.com/app/uploads/2019/04/fat_cover.jpg).
There were periods where he claimed to be leaner and heavier than the best champs through the WWII period, and darn near close to the best guys of the 60's - 70s eg - Pearl, Mentzer, etc....
Bobby Pandour was 5' 6" mid 150's in weight -
https://preview.redd.it/xrdyrortv5q31.png?auto=webp&s=e71f68469e6bc01e872eac28352b2d597fbfef42 .
Sandow was 190's at around Lanye's height - https://i.redd.it/dl9anfxuzoq81.jpg .
Grimek was supposedly 195ish at around Layne's height here - http://www.legendaryfitness.com/john_g9.gif .
Pearl in 1956 at similar height and #200ish -
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Bill_Pearl_and_Paulette_Nelson_1956.jpg .
Etc....
Here are the #'s for the first couple of dozen Mr A winners - https://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html . Layne was bigger and leaner than almost all of them. You don't get near his leanness and weight till you're certainly in the drug years.
Great post, as usual. Layne seems to be able to diet down without losing any lean tissue—a feat generally exclusive to PED users.
It’s interesting to think about and I’m still unsure ;D
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Groink was natural.
Natural or not he had great arms
The original ‘bhanks’
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His physique is a mess whether he's juiced or not.
I met him at the ASC years ago.
He's one of the most socially awkward people you could ever meet in your life.
Just completely weird and awkward.
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These are grown ass men and women in their 30's, 40's now and they've leeched onto the zoomer generation with living out their personal lives on social media. Even A-list actors don't whore their personal lives and relationships out that directly online. What a fucking embarrassment.
Furthermore: Layne left a perfectly decent woman/wife to be with this Baxter girl. If I recall she was far more down to earth and homely looking. Look where that's got him. I don't remember if they had kids or not.
Anyway... I'm off to send Holly a DM on Insta. Wish me luck.
His first wife was pretty decent but got fat. One of their kids is non-verbal with autism, which can't be easy.
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His first wife was pretty decent but got fat. One of their kids is non-verbal with autism, which can't be easy.
Course its easy, you just dont say anything....
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These are grown ass men and women in their 30's, 40's now and they've leeched onto the zoomer generation with living out their personal lives on social media. Even A-list actors don't whore their personal lives and relationships out that directly online. What a fucking embarrassment.
Furthermore: Layne left a perfectly decent woman/wife to be with this Baxter girl. If I recall she was far more down to earth and homely looking. Look where that's got him. I don't remember if they had kids or not.
Anyway... I'm off to send Holly a DM on Insta. Wish me luck.
Good luck, studddddd.
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Course its easy, you just dont say anything....
Haha. There's sometimes I wish my kids were non-verbal.
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Isabel was very good looking herself, and in very good shape.
I met her and Layne together first at the 2007 Arnold Classic, and many times after that.
She is Puerto Rican, but I can't remember what percentage. She may be full Puerto Rican. If I recall correctly, one of her grgrandmothers was a Mullato or Octaroon. So Isabel may be something like 5% African by genetics.
I remember I couldn't exactly pin down her look, but she explained it to me, and it made sense.
Very sexy.
Some would argue that Holly is better looking, but she is just newer.
When Isabel was pregnant, I told her that Layne and I have very similar views, but I never cared for his taste in music [Thrash Metal? I don't know]. She got very mad at me for that.
You're right, Matt. I forgot how decent she looked. She's definitely got some mixed genetics and I quite like her look. Thanks for posting those pics and sharing some info.
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His physique is a mess whether he's juiced or not.
I met him at the ASC years ago.
He's one of the most socially awkward people you could ever meet in your life.
Just completely weird and awkward.
I’ve heard he smells bad too.
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His physique is a mess whether he's juiced or not.
I met him at the ASC years ago.
He's one of the most socially awkward people you could ever meet in your life.
Just completely weird and awkward.
Leave Matt c out of this
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Layne natty LOL.
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Leave Matt c out of this
(https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14AAAAM/hysterical-laughter.gif)
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(https://preview.redd.it/tej7zj4zvc1a1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=546f00bf71e8e4752245dda2e1c9d77318c733c9)
Hotter than Dutch love.
looks good but also like a fake instagram bimbo, i can't imagine he thought this would work long term but if the ex got fat i can't really blame him
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I gotta say I think he might have been, the only reason i say this is bc he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway.
(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/layne-norton-750x393.jpg)
The case against him being lifetime natural is his stage physique. It's very hard for a natty to be extremely lean and dry AND have big, full muscles on the day of the show. Some would say its impossible. I agree that some of Norton's pictures to be questionable but I'll attribute that to favorable lighting and maybe some sharpening filter.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/images/2021/august/layne-norton-peak-week-stage-presence-header-960x540.jpg)
Before, in the gh15 days of calling him "Liar Norton" i thought it was 10% chance he was natural. Now I'm like 60% sure he's natural. What do you all think?
Wow, just wow. After all these years you've spent posting on a bodybuilding forum you still think this liar filt is natty ::)
Delusional and clueless natty permabulker of peace.
"he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway."
::) Jesus fucking Christ
"the only reason i say this is bc"
::) (no Fortress)
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We can look at the old turn of the century photographs of musclemen and there were some crazy specimens, maybe not much bigger than Layne but "better."
I mostly go by the "look" and not stats, even though stats can also tell us what is reasonable. I've been here decades talking about the look and it's something few people seem to get lol. Layne siimply never had any of the enhanced signs. Say if he did sneak in a an oral for a few weeks, how relevant was it for his physique? I mean he didn't even manage to get the juiced look. Juiced but looking natural. Yes there are some of those.
I thought you knew bodybuilding.
Son I am disappoint.
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Wow, just wow. After all these years you've spent posting on a bodybuilding forum you still think this liar filt is natty ::)
Delusional and clueless natty permabulker of peace.
"he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway."
::) Jesus fucking Christ
"the only reason i say this is bc"
::) (no Fortress)
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???
Wow, just wow. You are amazing.
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Wow, just wow. You are amazing.
QFT
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Holly’s stirring the pot again…..
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He just said he was was divorcing.
Who couldn’t see that coming with a self-obsessed, attention-whoring “wife”?
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Holly’s stirring the pot again…..
Leaving her man because of “different opinions and philosophies,” such important things for which to break up a family and make children troubled and resentful.
Sort of his fault though, a tad, for not seeing easily-detected warning signs. Any woman who makes social media a huge portion of her life and being near nude doing do isn’t to be trusted. The man will always be a jerkoff in the background while the woman sexually agitates her male followers. The guy is a side piece in a sense.
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Leaving her man because of “different opinions and philosophies,” such important things for which to break up a family and make children troubled and resentful.
Sort of his fault though, a tad, for not seeing easily-detected warning signs. Any woman who makes social media a huge portion of her life and being near nude doing do isn’t to be trusted. The man will always be a jerkoff in the background while the woman sexually agitates her male followers. The guy is a side piece in a sense.
True. Every woman that spends so much time on social media is still on the market looking for a better option than that at home. She belongs to the street
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True. Every woman that spends so much time on social media is still on the market looking for a better option than that at home. She belongs to the street
Well said!
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Well said!
I really enjoyed your thread about that sick fuck Rocco Siffredi.
"It's only SSchlemiels. It's nuffing. It's only the SSchlemiel."
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I really enjoyed your thread about that sick fuck Rocco Siffredi.
"It's only SSchlemiels. It's nuffing. It's only the SSchlemiel."
:-X
I’m glad you liked it. Men, including Layne Norton, need to get wise on this bullshit Sexual Revolution that allows women to run around like dumb whores, as discussed in the thread about that freak Rocco, and, as discussed above, leave their husbands, in some cases with children, because of “differences in opinions and philosophies.”
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Layne needs to drop the juice and start taking some Andrew Tate medicine.
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Layne needs to drop the juice and start taking some Andrew Tate medicine.
LAYNE WAS NEVER ON THE JUICE!!!!
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Possibly natural.
All lighting and angles.
he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway.
::) Clueless permabulkers of peace
ALL NATTY BABY!!
(https://i.ibb.co/64hmF0z/18001-norton-l-004.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Me ^ when I read half the posts here. Anger and disgust.