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Very onest interview with Rony Rockel. (this is not a exact translation but basicly what he says..)
Says no Pro would ever admid what he realy takes..
But 13 grams per week would be a very low dose cycle for Yates or Coleman.
Back in the day they where doing crazy cycles.. (he isnt telling everything but it seems he knows what they where taking and to what extend)
Rockel was shocked after seing Yates for the first time, he thought it was impossible to weight this much and to be this big. Yates only did ten years of professional bodybuilding, because his body could not take more punishment. He saw him again later and Yates lost almost everything within a year, even his back. (was unrecognizable after one year off)
Rockel says: if they are bigger and harder, they take more.. there are no genetic exceptions to this rule..
atleast he has never seen a genetic outlier. He has never seen a good natural in his life.. (muscular and hard)
He heavily regrets that he didn't took enough steroids in his career, in the beginning he didn't knew any better (only did Dianabol, 800mg Propionat, Winstrol, 2007 Australien GP) and later because he was low on money\scared and developed Diabetes. He did some heavy cycles later but it wasn't enough in his opinion.
He has seen the stack's of some big guys through a popular trainer and 1.2 grams of Tren a week was standard. Says he only did barely a third of that. (later in career)
If he could start all over again he would go all in from the beginning.. :D
He also says that this is only his opinion and what he knows about bodybuilding. (one of the most active Pro's, knows alot of people\Trainers and programs). Rockel says when the Pro's reveal theire low dose stack's in interviews they have a hard time to hold back their own laughter..
Also says alot of competitions are rigged and Joe Weider's plan was to make Günter Schlierkamp Mr. Olympia. :O
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stupid twat
Just think about how many shots you would need to get all that in
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Seems like Ronny Rockel is dealing some to make a living.
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Seems like Ronny Rockel is dealing some to make a living.
No, i don't think so, he is just telling the truth..
He know's what it takes to be in the Mr. Olympia top six.
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1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P". ::)
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No, i don't think so, he is just telling the truth..
He know's what it takes to be in the Mr. Olympia top six.
yep, 800mgs of test prop
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1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P". ::)
You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..
This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)
Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.
Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)
craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..
To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)
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You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..
This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)
Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.
Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)
craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..
To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)
Did Dallas die of kidney failure? Hard to keep track of all these fools who die in the industry. I didn’t even realize that the Mr O, Cedric I think?, was dead.
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1.5 to 2 grams seemed to be the standard
can't imagine 13 grams or 22 grams... WTF???
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Is he a touch retarded?
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You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..
Well thats good to hear he told about his high-cycles as well...
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Did Dallas die of kidney failure? Hard to keep track of all these fools who die in the industry. I didn’t even realize that the Mr O, Cedric I think?, was dead.
Cedric won an Arnold, Shawn Rhoden (Mr. Olympia) - both dead...
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1. "All pro's lie about their doses and claim "low doses, but used 13 grams".
2. "Not me though, I only used 800 mg of test-P". ::)
That was my immediate thought.
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Ronnie is an inspiration. A true gladiator
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Well thats good to hear he told about his high-cycles as well...
He was very open about everything in this interview, he is also an introvert and absolute believable, (in my opinion) He has not the personality to lie about things, his Bodybuilding career is long over anyway.
He also seems kind of depressed that he didn't do enough to climp the top and started too late with this mega-dosing approach in his career and absolutly regrets it today.
It seems these crazy stacks are more the norm than exceptions.
What they found in Dallas Mc Carvers blood is probably nothing spezial and just the same what they all take.
His body just couldn't handle it.
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How thick do you think their blood is at that dosage?
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How thick do you think their blood is at that dosage?
I have no idea but i guess they take stuff to make it thinner..
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They all do “high” dosages
Genetics my ass, they downplay to look like they are some special specimen
All a joke, competitive bbing is a joke
I enjoy working out, not the whole culture of bbing and it’s g4p, homos, schmoes, drug dealers and criminals, mental cases
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Ruhl took shits bigger than this guy. Like every pro he took as much as he could as long as he could.
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Ruhl took shits bigger than this guy. Like every pro he took as much as he could as long as he could.
I remeber an old poster OTH wrote that he knew two pros who didnt even know how much they took, they used to just keep injecting until they ran out of places to inject due to the pain at the site
I think you would have to do something like that to be able to take multiple grams of anything
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The more gear you take the more it works to infinity? Sick! This dude is a retard
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I remeber an old poster OTH wrote that he knew two pros who didnt even know how much they took, they used to just keep injecting until they ran out of places to inject due to the pain at the site
I think you would have to do something like that to be able to take multiple grams of anything
I knew OTH and talked extensively with him back then. He knew his shit and had a pretty good physique, guy was a straight up guy, didn’t BS
I remember him mentioning that
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Is he a touch retarded?
and then some.
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Six grams is the sweetspot.
By Eric Scott, Phd.
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1.5 to 2 grams seemed to be the standard
can't imagine 13 grams or 22 grams... WTF???
I don't believe so. Mike Pulcinella said that at his level [National level], that three grams per week was considered low.
So I'd think somewhere in the 3-10+ gram weekly range.
500mg weekly is a beginner dose for test only. I think 750mg to 1,000mg is intermediate, from threads I've read over they years.
Surely most pros are well over that, no?
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I don't believe so. Mike Pulcinella said that at his level [National level], that three grams per week was considered low.
So I'd think somewhere in the 3-10+ gram weekly range.
500mg weekly is a beginner dose for test only. I think 750mg to 1,000mg is intermediate, from threads I've read over they years.
Surely most pros are well over that, no?
If you took 500 as your first dose you dont know if 250 would have done the job
I always advise people to start on a low dose if they ask
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its written on the stone pillars of Getbig that
4 grams is where the magic starts happens
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It’s all so silly and perverted.
Bodybuilding success (competitively) is about structure, shape, proportions (all from birth), and your individual genetic response to gear.
If you have all this in your favour, and you start pumping in the gas … well, there’s your deal.
It’s not a sport.
It is a game of Russian Roulette.
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It’s all so silly and perverted.
Bodybuilding success (competitively) is about structure, shape, proportions (all from birth), and your individual genetic response to gear.
If you have all this in your favour, and you start pumping in the gas … well, there’s your deal.
It’s not a sport.
It is a game of Russian Roulette.
exactly.......and then excessive stupidity if you continue past a certain age where your health can be compromised due to never coming off after your competitive time is over.
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It’s all so silly and perverted.
Bodybuilding success (competitively) is about structure, shape, proportions (all from birth), and your individual genetic response to gear.
If you have all this in your favour, and you start pumping in the gas … well, there’s your deal.
It’s not a sport.
It is a game of Russian Roulette.
It really is.
You have guys like Prince, Nasser, Munzer, Benazizza etc....who melted ftom the inside out.
Then you have guys like Jay, Ronnie and Dexter who used twice as much for twice as long and they're relatively fine (or at least not experiencing organ failure)
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It’s all so silly and perverted.
Bodybuilding success (competitively) is about structure, shape, proportions (all from birth), and your individual genetic response to gear.
If you have all this in your favour, and you start pumping in the gas … well, there’s your deal.
It’s not a sport.
It is a game of Russian Roulette.
You can say the same about any sport, lots of people train hard but only the genetically blessed reach the elite level—drugs or not
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It really is.
You have guys like Prince, Nasser, Munzer, Benazizza etc....who melted ftom the inside out.
Then you have guys like Jay, Ronnie and Dexter who used twice as much for twice as long and they're relatively fine (or at least not experiencing organ failure)
TRUE,,but say for instance munzer and momo i think they went to extreme for dryness and with momo guy was a lightweight amateur and got huge over short time period to top bber .
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You can say the same about any sport, lots of people train hard but only the genetically blessed reach the elite level—drugs or not
yes but in this 'sport'it is drugs or nothing period.its up to the individual to decide how much they are willing to do and for how long.
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If you took 500 as your first dose you dont know if 250 would have done the job
I always advise people to start on a low dose if they ask
My friend claims to respond on 150mg.
Isn't there a sort of minimum threshold to get results?
I believe the boards routinely use 500mg as a starting point. I can't say I've ever heard anyone claim to do a 250mg weekly cycle.
My friend above being exception. I feel like he used so little because he was broke though, lol.
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My friend claims to respond on 150mg.
Isn't there a sort of minimum threshold to get results?
I believe the boards routinely use 500mg as a starting point. I can't say I've ever heard anyone claim to do a 250mg weekly cycle.
My friend above being exception. I feel like he used so little because he was broke though, lol.
Bhanky said 500 mg is trt, so I believe him
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its written on the stone pillars of Getbig that
4 grams is where the magic starts happens
What if you are using 3.999 grams?
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You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..
This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)
Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.
Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)
craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..
To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)
So, nobody?
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When Rockel says but not me than you no he is full of shit. Just looking for some attention.
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Titus told me he was on 5 grams of just test at an after party around 2003. He was off-season and seemed to say that he was just taking a break at that dosage.
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You have to take everything with a grain of salt,
he admits that he was over 20 grams atleast one time..
This is one of the top Pro's and of course you come in the know what other people take.
If you are a heavy weight and hire a trainer this guy would tell you if you take enough..(prepairing for the Mr. Olympia)
Dallas Mc Carver took 22 grams per week.. (proven by blood test in the autopsy)
Don't know if this much is realy necessary but this is probably what they use.
Andreas Münzers Plan was also crazy, the old Milos plans i have seen also several grams.
There was a german bodybuilder who was using Milos as a Trainer who said milos was getting him on an absolute crazy stack.. (i know, some people who know Milos personaly disagreeing with that..)
craig titus who was the undercover Pro was suggesting to take atleast one gram and other stuff as a beginner :D (or something like that). Bostin Loyd and many more also revealed that they took several grams per week..
To me it seems like they realy take this much..maybe not everybody but atleast many of them.
Rockel says this is basicly what it takes if you are 255 lbs and above..(Olympia shape, 5'11 height)
Simply nonsense. A gram is 4 2.5cc shots. 13 grams would be almost 50 2.5cc shots. Your body simply can not absorb that. If you inject into an inflamed muscle that has a hemotobia that has not absorbed the last shot, you will wind up in the hospital with blood infection fever etc etc you won't even be able to push the oil in or walk and you think you are going to do it every week? Your bloodwork can not prove dosage again just nonsense.
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You guys still don't get a moderate year round TRT test dosage prescribed by your doctor is best not blasting tons of crap for a few weeks
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"6 Grams Is The Sweet Spot"
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Simply nonsense. A gram is 4 2.5cc shots. 13 grams would be almost 50 2.5cc shots. Your body simply can not absorb that. If you inject into an inflamed muscle that has a hemotobia that has not absorbed the last shot, you will wind up in the hospital with blood infection fever etc etc you won't even be able to push the oil in or walk and you think you are going to do it every week? Your bloodwork can not prove dosage again just nonsense.
I would tell you to ask Dallas that 13 grams is very possible but he’s dead
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I would tell you to ask Dallas that 13 grams is very possible but he’s dead
It’s really not
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My nikka
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You guys still don't get a moderate year round TRT test dosage prescribed by your doctor is best not blasting tons of crap for a few weeks
300-500 mgs of test is not a moderate dose
Fucks sake I only take that much precontest
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Simply nonsense. A gram is 4 2.5cc shots. 13 grams would be almost 50 2.5cc shots. Your body simply can not absorb that. If you inject into an inflamed muscle that has a hemotobia that has not absorbed the last shot, you will wind up in the hospital with blood infection fever etc etc you won't even be able to push the oil in or walk and you think you are going to do it every week? Your bloodwork can not prove dosage again just nonsense.
How long does it take for a muscle to recover from a shot so that another shot can be injected in the same spot?
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"125 mg Is The Sweet Spot"
:D
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How long does it take for a muscle to recover from a shot so that another shot can be injected in the same spot?
Depends on the size of the Muscle and the amount of oil but if you are injecting a full 2.5cc it’s going to take a large muscle like your glutes and require several days even if these guys are shooting a cc here or there into a smaller muscle there is no ducking way the body can absorb 50cc a week just nonsense you would be one massive hemotobia(sp) halfway through week one unable to train you would just wind up with cyst of oil and have to get them surgically removed
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"16 Grams Is The Sweet Spot"
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He has that high blood pressure look. Red as a beetroot.