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Title: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 06, 2022, 02:27:29 PM
RIP to Tony Tucker, Pat Tate and Craig Rolfe.
Legendary gangsters of the Essex scene.
Bodybuilding related because Pat Tate was an Olympia level bodybuilder .
There are many great movies about these legends including Rise of the footsoldier,  Essex Boys and Bonded by blood.
Pat
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Dave D on December 06, 2022, 02:28:23 PM
Was Pat a pro?
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: robcguns on December 06, 2022, 02:29:56 PM
He does not look Olympia level.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Dave D on December 06, 2022, 02:31:39 PM
He does not look Olympia level.

He looks like the love child of Buff Bagwell and Milos Sarcev.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 06, 2022, 02:35:36 PM
He looks like the love child of Buff Bagwell and Milos Sarcev.

I thought he looked like a buff Elvis there
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: robcguns on December 06, 2022, 02:41:31 PM
He looks like the love child of Buff Bagwell and Milos Sarcev.

Yes


I thought he looked like a buff Elvis there

And yes.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 06, 2022, 03:09:15 PM
Autopsy photos
https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/essex-boys-triple-rettendon-murders-9486/
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Wiggs on December 06, 2022, 03:10:19 PM
He looks like the love child of Buff Bagwell and Milos Sarcev.

Lolol
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 06, 2022, 05:10:19 PM
What happened Darren?
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: wes on December 06, 2022, 05:36:48 PM
He looks like the love child of Buff Bagwell and Milos Sarcev.
I spit my coffee all over my screen!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 06, 2022, 07:19:06 PM
Big, but not an even Olympia level by any means.

And THANK GOD they were killed or else that Bernard OMahoney or whatever his name is would have had to go out and get an actual job instead of writing tell-all - insider - additional info - the killer revealed - type of books about men he claimed to be tight with but was lucky to have a couple of photos taken with them.

Essex Boys was the best film out of all of them. 
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 07, 2022, 01:11:31 AM
Looks like a Buff Presley Bagwell
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Matt on December 07, 2022, 01:30:23 AM
RIP to Tony Tucker, Pat Tate and Craig Rolfe.
Legendary gangsters of the Essex scene.
Bodybuilding related because Pat Tate was an Olympia level bodybuilder .
There are many great movies about these legends including Rise of the footsoldier,  Essex Boys and Bonded by blood.
Pat

Were they friends with Lenny McLean?

Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: falco on December 07, 2022, 01:45:03 AM
Autopsy photos
https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f237/essex-boys-triple-rettendon-murders-9486/

The buff one seems to suffer from Mike O'Hearn testicular syndrome.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: hench on December 07, 2022, 03:06:41 AM
Doubt it, different area, plus they were bullies and Mclean hated bullies.
Were they friends with Lenny McLean?


Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 03:18:07 AM
They were small time bullies who messed with the wrong guys

Look up what happened to Graeme Boardman another bully who messed with the Irish and Paul Doyle got sent back his finger from Spain after they tortured him for 3 days and cut him into pieces. Apparently blow torching his balls off n all. I heard they hired a plastic surgeon for it. Took his eyes and nose off and the whole shibang
Lovely stuff
 
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 03:20:04 AM
Doubt it, different area, plus they were bullies and Mclean hated bullies.

McLean was A bully too
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 03:21:25 AM
Doubt it, different area, plus they were bullies and Mclean hated bullies.

If you read Lennys book "The Guvnor" its basically stories about him bullying people,
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 03:28:22 AM


Hey Darren this is a real gangster you might learn something
Skip to 1:39:00 abouts
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 03:33:40 AM


used to post here
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 03:41:49 AM


used to post here


A complete divvy is Darren Gee. See what he says about the Irish controlling Liverpool etc

That’s the same firm operating from Spain and Dubai who sent the body parts to Doyle and they also tried to whack Darren he says but I don’t think the bullet was for him but got his friend…oh what a tangled web. Look up “the lam” In Liverpool

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/us-offers-rewards-of-up-to-15m-for-arrest-or-conviction-of-kinahans-1.4850746(https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/cjCHI8MlXDqYNwXTxmW46ZpdxmM=/768x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/7BI6E5XLDFYOPLEKEJSS2E6YWQ.jpg)

(https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/R3W346YQTMO4ED2YEZZW6VP5K4.png)

I don’t think too many crime gangs in the uk or the USA have 15 plus million on them by the feds
These guys have had 40+ whacked in Ireland alone and bodies all over Holland Spain so I read. I’ve heard some reliable sources say it’s closer to hundreds not 40/50. They are businessmen and the majority of those people probably deserved it but when innocents get shot…ah, well. Nasty business

McGregor and fury would have associated before things got too hot


I’m outta here
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: a_pupil on December 07, 2022, 04:23:32 AM


used to post here


A complete divvy is Darren Gee. See what he says about the Irish controlling Liverpool etc

That’s the same firm operating from Spain and Dubai who sent the body parts to Doyle and they also tried to whack Darren he says but I don’t think the bullet was for him but got his friend…oh what a tangled web. Look up “the lam” In Liverpool

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/us-offers-rewards-of-up-to-15m-for-arrest-or-conviction-of-kinahans-1.4850746(https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/cjCHI8MlXDqYNwXTxmW46ZpdxmM=/768x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/7BI6E5XLDFYOPLEKEJSS2E6YWQ.jpg)

(https://cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/R3W346YQTMO4ED2YEZZW6VP5K4.png)

I don’t think too many crime gangs in the uk or the USA have 15 plus million on them by the feds
These guys have had 40+ whacked in Ireland alone and bodies all over Holland Spain so I read. I’ve heard some reliable sources say it’s closer to hundreds not 40/50. They are businessmen and the majority of those people probably deserved it but when innocents get shot…ah, well. Nasty business

McGregor and fury would have associated before things got too hot


I’m outta here

The Kinehans are probably as big as it gets for western crime. They did things to Mexican Cartel levels but under the nose of western law enforcement.

Even the cartels don't have the balls to be so brutal in modern day america, and if they do they're not clever enough to evade the law.

They don't even have the advantages that latins/turks/kurds/afghans/pakis have in the drugs being produced in their homelands, or the eastern europeans who take advantage of their lawless shitholes back home to get a hold of weapons/drugs/humans to be trafficked.

The dad would have been a billionaire legit if he grew up in the right environment.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Fortress on December 07, 2022, 04:34:56 AM
Who?

How is the one guy’s O prep coming?
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 04:37:22 AM
A_pupil there’s a loose rumour going around that two DEA agents were sent over to Dubai to pose as a couple and try to infiltrate the cartel. Christy sussed them out and they were tortured and never seen again. Is it possible that’s why the FBI want them so bad now? Who knows…crazy crazy stuff I could go on and on but I’ve said enough I don’t think USA people care about Irish gangsters so I’ll bore off

RIP to Pat Tate though he was a good bber
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 07, 2022, 04:38:36 AM
I remember Darren Gee. He was alright with me because I'm an Everton fan
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 05:19:35 AM
I remember Darren Gee. He was alright with me because I'm an Everton fan

I think he arranged a straightner with "conker" who didnt show
He went and say on a train station in Manchester waiting for him

he lives not far from me
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 07, 2022, 05:27:44 AM
Who?

How is the one guy’s O prep coming?

Not great, he's in Pitsea cemetery
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: a_pupil on December 07, 2022, 05:50:44 AM
A_pupil there’s a loose rumour going around that two DEA agents were sent over to Dubai to pose as a couple and try to infiltrate the cartel. Christy sussed them out and they were tortured and never seen again. Is it possible that’s why the FBI want them so bad now? Who knows…crazy crazy stuff I could go on and on but I’ve said enough I don’t think USA people care about Irish gangsters so I’ll bore off

RIP to Pat Tate though he was a good bber

I wouldn't be surprised. As it was so random them putting the sanctions on them.

I'm not really into the 'ardman type stuff that big Darren Avey is into as crime is a doomed path, pretty much 99% will end up in tears. But you have to admire how Christy built their business up. They might have still been untouchable level if the son didn't try to become a public figure.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 07, 2022, 06:39:02 AM
I think he arranged a straightner with "conker" who didnt show
He went and say on a train station in Manchester waiting for him

he lives not far from me

Conker still around?
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: hench on December 07, 2022, 07:36:47 AM
Its been a long time since i read it, i thought he just picked on arseholes and people who thought they were tough, but it's been a long time.
If you read Lennys book "The Guvnor" its basically stories about him bullying people,
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: illuminati on December 07, 2022, 12:05:24 PM
I knew Lenny in Passing as he trained at The Crystal Palace gym
My friends who trained there regularly Knew him well -
Let's just say Opinions Vary about Lenny
And not Many had Much negative To say to his face while he was Alive
Plenty want to Bad mouth him Since he Died.

Hmmmm where were all your Loud Voices slagging Him off when he was Alive. ?????
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Bevo on December 07, 2022, 12:24:16 PM
Who?

How is the one guy’s O prep coming?

You can say he’s always shredded to the bone 24/7
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Dave D on December 07, 2022, 12:34:33 PM
You can say he’s always shredded to the bone 24/7

Dude is always dry without an ounce of fat on his body.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 02:13:46 PM
Its been a long time since i read it, i thought he just picked on arseholes and people who thought they were tough, but it's been a long time.

he bit his friends throat out who was half his size because he was drunk and asked Lenny to step outside the pub after an argument Lenny was sober

He also claimed he threatened a prison trustee to make sure he got a cushy job while in prison

Most of the people he beat up while on the door didnt even need to be hit

If thats not the actions of a bully I dont know what is.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Fortress on December 07, 2022, 02:39:08 PM
Conker still around?

Conker.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

What a tool.
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Conker.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

What a tool.

He fucked off from here, he still posts on UK muscle

I just found an old post of mine from over there  ;D

I was talking about Tmuscle forum
(https://i.ibb.co/wWXNtM2/Screenshot-2022-12-07-at-22-48-22.png)
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 07, 2022, 03:05:07 PM
Conker.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

What a tool.


 ;D
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: joswift on December 07, 2022, 03:23:34 PM

 ;D

his avatar was him red as a fucking beetroot  ;D
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 07, 2022, 03:35:50 PM
he bit his friends throat out who was half his size because he was drunk and asked Lenny to step outside the pub after an argument Lenny was sober

He also claimed he threatened a prison trustee to make sure he got a cushy job while in prison

Most of the people he beat up while on the door didnt even need to be hit

If thats not the actions of a bully I dont know what is.

Lenny was drunk too. Its that incident that made him quit drinking
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: Darren Avey on December 07, 2022, 03:38:20 PM
I knew Lenny in Passing as he trained at The Crystal Palace gym
My friends who trained there regularly Knew him well -
Let's just say Opinions Vary about Lenny
And not Many had Much negative To say to his face while he was Alive
Plenty want to Bad mouth him Since he Died.

Hmmmm where were all your Loud Voices slagging Him off when he was Alive. ?????

Slims?
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: irishdave on December 07, 2022, 06:53:39 PM
I knew Lenny in Passing as he trained at The Crystal Palace gym
My friends who trained there regularly Knew him well -
Let's just say Opinions Vary about Lenny
And not Many had Much negative To say to his face while he was Alive
Plenty want to Bad mouth him Since he Died.

Hmmmm where were all your Loud Voices slagging Him off when he was Alive. ?????

I’ll tell you this much. I’m a big guy but I definitely wouldn’t want to rumble with Lenny. I think he had serious charisma and if he had lived longer he’d have been a very very good actor. I liked him from
What I saw and the fact he gave up the booze but his bullying aspect comes out quickly in the video posted. He would have dealt with Cockerill easily who is a bit of a blaggard but very likeable too.

You see the thing about these respected guys is they all had charm and nice qualities behind the bad. Treat people accordingly etc…

No disrespect to them but if we’re talking real stuff it’s about money and power and not how many lads you can knock out in the queue for the nightclub. I’ve been there done that.

Drug dealing always leads to misery. But if the Truth be told I know people in the small country of Ireland that people have never heard of in any newspaper that are making millions. It’s usually the gophers who they sponsor go down. Not them. Why? They’re connected at the top.

If you look at England or France or Holland (where I lived) it’s usually the foreigners who take over the drugs trade in the cities.

Look at Ireland. Hasn’t happened here because the Irish shoot to kill. A history of violence about to repeat itself. The Irish are a funny people. I think we’re different. Statistically we’re one of the safest countries on the planet but it’s not the truth as our gangland scene was off the charts. Tricks from the IRA make criminals good at hits and bombings and gadaffi sent the country much more ammunition than needed for a full scale war and I’m sure some people still can access it.

Slainte mo chara
Title: Re: 27 years ago today Essex boys murdered
Post by: a_pupil on December 08, 2022, 04:50:38 AM
I’ll tell you this much. I’m a big guy but I definitely wouldn’t want to rumble with Lenny. I think he had serious charisma and if he had lived longer he’d have been a very very good actor. I liked him from
What I saw and the fact he gave up the booze but his bullying aspect comes out quickly in the video posted. He would have dealt with Cockerill easily who is a bit of a blaggard but very likeable too.

You see the thing about these respected guys is they all had charm and nice qualities behind the bad. Treat people accordingly etc…

No disrespect to them but if we’re talking real stuff it’s about money and power and not how many lads you can knock out in the queue for the nightclub. I’ve been there done that.

Drug dealing always leads to misery. But if the Truth be told I know people in the small country of Ireland that people have never heard of in any newspaper that are making millions. It’s usually the gophers who they sponsor go down. Not them. Why? They’re connected at the top.

If you look at England or France or Holland (where I lived) it’s usually the foreigners who take over the drugs trade in the cities.

Look at Ireland. Hasn’t happened here because the Irish shoot to kill. A history of violence about to repeat itself. The Irish are a funny people. I think we’re different. Statistically we’re one of the safest countries on the planet but it’s not the truth as our gangland scene was off the charts. Tricks from the IRA make criminals good at hits and bombings and gadaffi sent the country much more ammunition than needed for a full scale war and I’m sure some people still can access it.

Slainte mo chara

I think it's because of the IRA etc. They were literal armies, so that militancy was passed on to the gangs after the paramilitary groups started fizzling out.

The elder paramilitaries were good men, they could have just said fuck it and took over the drugs in ireland and the UK.