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Title: Tripledemic
Post by: Gym Rat on January 18, 2023, 09:04:05 AM
Source - Google-Box  ;)

Pfizer’s purported Comirnaty pricing scheme—which could see the company charge between $110 and $130 per vaccine dose on the private market—as “pure and deadly greed.”
To date, more than 650 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in the U.S., with over 80% of the total population having received at least one shot, explained US officials . But that “public health achievement” is “now at risk” thanks to Pfizer’s greed, they warned.

If Pfizer moves forward with the 400% markup of its BioNTech-partnered shot, as the company “suggested it might” in a recent {billionaire investor event}, it will be putting the lives of “many” uninsured Americans at risk, the lawmakers wrote in a letter addressed to greedy Pfizer CEO, Mr Albert Bourla, Ph.D. “Even worse,” their estimation, is the potential for Pfizer’s price hike to “pave the way” for other vaccine makers like Moderna and Novavax to do the same. Pfizer did not immediately respond to Fierce Pharma's request for comment on the matter.

Pfizer immediately hit social media with its normal playbook : every positive thing they did during pandemic til today, and posting disinformation memes using Politics over facts . Pfizer’s planned price bump on its current medications, beyond its 33 new planned Covid/RSV variant vaccines, medications, and biologicals would come on top of tens of billions of dollars in pandemic revenue the company has generated over the last two years.

Just in 2022’s third quarter—amid an uptake slump for Pfizer and BioNTech’s omicron-tweaked booster shot—Comirnaty brought home $4.4 billion in sales, including $2.9 billion in the U.S. Those results inspired Pfizer to tack another $2 billion onto its vaccine revenue projection for the year, which now stands at $34 billion. Btw , In 2021 they made $37 billion in sales.

Pfizer’s proposed price increases could generate an additional $2.5 billion to $3 billion in yearly revenue, marking yet another massive corporate payday from the ongoing pandemic.
**Pfizer first floated a potential $110 to $130 price tag for Comirnaty during an investor event in October, when the company suggested the price change would occur in 2023—likely in the first quarter—once the U.S. finishes its stockpile of COVID shots and pivots to a commercial model.

In a recent supply contract the U.S. signed with Pfizer and BioNTech in June of this year, the companies charged 30.48 per dose, which was an increase from a $24 price in July of 2021 and $19.50 per dose in July of 2020. Pfizer proved this week that the pandemic revenue engine still has some fuel left over from the feds after it revealed a nearly $2 billion deal for another 3.7 million Paxlovid courses for deliver in early 2023.

The current administration previously agreed to pay around $10.6 billion, or around $530 per treatment course, for the first 20 million Paxlovid courses ordered. It’s paying around the same amount per course under this latest order.

YESTERDAY NEWS FROM FDA (not just kids 5-11 years old, they are planning to add 6 month old babies through 4 year olds!!)
Jan 17, 2023

Breaking news : Children as young as 6 months old should be eligible for COVID-19 booster shots, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said yesterday. FDA Commissioner Robert Califf, M.D., said in the announcement that “as this virus has changed, and immunity from previous COVID-19 vaccination wanes, the more people that keep up to date on Covid 19 vaccinations, the more benefit for individuals, families and public health by helping prevent severe illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths.”
(Does the FDA prescribe / recommend drugs to people)??

Yesterday’s FDA recommendation comes with caveats about just who and who shouldn’t get the mRNA COVID-19 booster, one being the exclusion of children who’ve already received three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Those children will still have protection against the omicron BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants now in circulation.
But this could change, as the FDA in its announcement added that “the data to support giving an updated bivalent booster dose for these children are expected in January.”

Here’s who can receive the booster:
Children aged 6 months old through 4 years old who haven’t gotten a three-dose primary series of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines. Also, in the same age group, those who haven’t yet gotten the third dose in the series will now be given the bivalent booster as their third dose.
Children aged 6 months old through 5 years old who’ve gotten the monovalent Moderna vaccine will be eligible for the Moderna bivalent booster shot two months after they’ve completed the monovalent dosing.

The booster shots will be “broadly protective” against COVID-19 because they contain a component that should ward off the original COVID-19 strain, as well as BA.4 and BA.5, according to the FDA. Some individuals who receive the bivalent shot could experience side effects like those that affected people who’d gotten the original monovalent vaccines.

In approving the Moderna bivalent vaccine for children 6 months through 5 years old, the FDA analyzed data comparing the immune response among 56 individuals 17 months through 5 years old, finding that “the immune response … was comparable to the immune response to the two-dose primary series in the adult participants.”
The FDA’s recommendation of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for children 6 months through 4 years old “is supported by the FDA’s previous analyses of the effectiveness of primary vaccination with the monovalent Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in individuals 16 years of age and older and individuals 6 months through 4 years of age.”


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Investor News : New Term Coined “Tripledemic” Is Covid-19, the Flu, and RSV
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In Europe , an anti body drug Nirsevimab from Sanofi and AstraZeneca gained the European Commission’s marketing authorization to prevent the virus in {newborns and infants}. This treatment is under review by the FDA for use in the US.
Cases of RSV began appearing earlier than usual during the 2022-2023 RSV season. RSV surged in the US and Europe this alongside the flu and COVID-19 as part of a “Tripledemic” that has been straining hospitals and shortages of fever and pain reducing drugs.

January 17th Moderna announced its mRNA vaccine is 84% effective in its late stage trials in adults over 60. The data is encouraging, and represent the second demonstration of positive phase 3 trial results from our mRNA infectious disease vaccine platform after, Spikevax, our COVID-19 vaccine. We look forward to publishing the full data set and sharing the results at an upcoming infectious disease medical conference,” said Stéphane Bancel, Moderna’s Chief Executive Officer. Currently there are no RSV vaccines and Pfizer’s came in at 66.7% effective the day after the FDA shot down the GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) RSV drug.
Definition RSV :
Respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV, is a (common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two). Sounds like the common winter cold...
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: wes on January 18, 2023, 09:11:25 AM
Terrible Trifecta Of Peace
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Tennisballz on January 18, 2023, 12:17:08 PM
So how do we get out of all this?  Seems like giant companies have basically seized control of the world.  What can anyone do about Pfizer when all they have to do is pay whatever politicians they need millions of dollars to do what they want.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: kreator on January 18, 2023, 12:19:41 PM
So how do we get out of all this?  Seems like giant companies have basically seized control of the world.  What can anyone do about Pfizer when all they have to do is pay whatever politicians they need millions of dollars to do what they want.

burn everything to the ground
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Tennisballz on January 18, 2023, 12:38:42 PM
burn everything to the ground
I think you may be right.  It’s a real honest question and other than crazy violence on a massive scale, how else can the grip of the corporations be broken?  A lot of people are pushing the minimalism thing today and I guess I’m theory that could work by bankrupting large companies, but I don’t know how many people are really willing to go without their Starbucks and their costco lifestyles.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: robcguns on January 18, 2023, 12:40:04 PM
burn everything to the ground

Exactly.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: ROBOAK on January 18, 2023, 12:56:14 PM
Angry mobs with pitchforks and torches demanding the heads of, Trudeau,  bidens,Clinton's, klaus shwab,marcone,soares, Henry kinsinger, Bill gates,Gretchen Whitmer,Dan Andrew's, jacinda arden,Oak,primemuscle,AbrahamG ,  is the only answer,

violence is the answer........
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2023, 03:09:52 AM
Angry mobs with pitchforks and torches demanding the heads of, Trudeau,  bidens,Clinton's, klaus shwab,marcone,soares, Henry kinsinger, Bill gates,Gretchen Whitmer,Dan Andrew's, jacinda arden,Oak,primemuscle,AbrahamG ,  is the only answer,

violence is the answer........

Why AbrahamG?

He told me he knows four people personally who died of Covid.

Statistically, that makes no sense. And only 6% of Covid deaths are actual Covid deaths. The rest had significant underlying disease.

So if I had to guess, I'd say AbrahamG knew some people who had other diseases. They died WITH Covid...not directly from it.

Does ANYONE on Getbig know ANYONE who died of Covid? Other than Tom [not tommywishbone...Tom] whose "niece's boyfriend's grandfather who was 65" died.  ::)
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Dalnet on January 19, 2023, 03:34:05 AM
So how do we get out of all this?  Seems like giant companies have basically seized control of the world.  What can anyone do about Pfizer when all they have to do is pay whatever politicians they need millions of dollars to do what they want.

If enough people start gathering outside the parliament/government buildings - and I mean millions overtaking cities: the governments of the West are going to have to concede that they will be unable to run the countries they govern, anymore. Imagine say 5 million people walking in your capital streets demanding a fall of the current system. It'll be chaos and no government can herd 5 million people away through police tactics. It's just impossible to have that many people moved/removed. The governments will have no choice but to try and give concessions saying things will change hoping you'd go away. Demand a removal of all politicians that don't have national interests at heart. The problem is logistically organising that on the spur. It's the only way to do it in a non-violent method.

It's not going to happen - but it's only only 'peaceful' way. I still think that without bloodshed - things will not change.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: falco on January 19, 2023, 08:54:19 AM
burn everything to the ground
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: falco on January 19, 2023, 08:56:07 AM
Why AbrahamG?

He told me he knows four people personally who died of Covid.

Statistically, that makes no sense. And only 6% of Covid deaths are actual Covid deaths. The rest had significant underlying disease.

So if I had to guess, I'd say AbrahamG knew some people who had other diseases. They died WITH Covid...not directly from it.

Does ANYONE on Getbig know ANYONE who died of Covid? Other than Tom [not tommywishbone...Tom] whose "niece's boyfriend's grandfather who was 65" died.  ::)

He works at a nursing home.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Gym Rat on January 19, 2023, 09:06:51 AM
Why AbrahamG?

He told me he knows four people personally who died of Covid.

Statistically, that makes no sense. And only 6% of Covid deaths are actual Covid deaths. The rest had significant underlying disease.

So if I had to guess, I'd say AbrahamG knew some people who had other diseases. They died WITH Covid...not directly from it.

Does ANYONE on Getbig know ANYONE who died of Covid? Other than Tom [not tommywishbone...Tom] whose "niece's boyfriend's grandfather who was 65" died.  ::)

Nope... Mentioned many times here, my workplace has 100K employee's. And they like to brag about zero COVID deaths.
(Take credit for "keeping people safe, working at home, etc").

Issue there are all the MFG plants across the globe never closed. (Mexico, China, India, etc).

COVID is a basic flu-bug, repackaged...

AS the great poster (Thin Lizzy) says "The scam is in the testing". (And reporting, etc)
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: GigantorX on January 19, 2023, 09:25:53 AM
TripleDemic is another made up fantasy term grounded in zero science or evidence.

It's flu season. Tons of respiratory pathogens mucking about. Happens every year, funny thing is that hospitals were never anymore stressed than normal and numbers are ready declining or leveling out.

This will be a normal "Flu" season that started a bit early when all is said and done.

You can have a epidemic or pandemic with endemic viruses.

Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2023, 09:30:22 AM
He works at a nursing home.

Ah. That actually makes sense.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Dave D on January 19, 2023, 10:29:52 AM
Angry mobs with pitchforks and torches demanding the heads of, Trudeau,  bidens,Clinton's, klaus shwab,marcone,soares, Henry kinsinger, Bill gates,Gretchen Whitmer,Dan Andrew's, jacinda arden,Oak,primemuscle,AbrahamG ,  is the only answer,

violence is the answer........

It won’t work.

January 6th was considered a violent uprising, while the burning of police departments was considered peaceful protesting.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: residue on January 19, 2023, 10:36:42 AM
I think you may be right.  It’s a real honest question and other than crazy violence on a massive scale, how else can the grip of the corporations be broken?  A lot of people are pushing the minimalism thing today and I guess I’m theory that could work by bankrupting large companies, but I don’t know how many people are really willing to go without their Starbucks and their costco lifestyles.


the only way this happens non violently is if some sort of socialist government gets elected and they seize the companies. 
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: residue on January 19, 2023, 10:58:51 AM
Angry mobs with pitchforks and torches demanding the heads of, Trudeau,  bidens,Clinton's, klaus shwab,marcone,soares, Henry kinsinger, Bill gates,Gretchen Whitmer,Dan Andrew's, jacinda arden,Oak,primemuscle,AbrahamG ,  is the only answer,

violence is the answer........


you half get it, you think the problem is sides in politics instead of the whole system
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: ROBOAK on January 19, 2023, 04:27:32 PM

you half get it, you think the problem is sides in politics instead of the whole system

You can throw the bushes, eye patch McCain,the Cheney's and Lindsey 🐞 Graham in there too fruit cake.....
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2023, 04:57:10 PM

you half get it, you think the problem is sides in politics instead of the whole system

Yes.


the only way this happens non violently is if some sort of socialist government gets elected and they seize the companies.

No. You're assuming a socialist government will be wise and benevolent so of course everything magically gets solved, but the most socialist governments were the most tyrannical during covid.

How do you gripe about uniparty control and then say we need a government like Trudeau's?

I know. It's hard to come to terms with it but socialism does not deliver what socialism promises to deliver.

The remedy is less government, not more.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: residue on January 19, 2023, 06:50:00 PM
Yes.

No. You're assuming a socialist government will be wise and benevolent so of course everything magically gets solved, but the most socialist governments were the most tyrannical during covid.

How do you gripe about uniparty control and then say we need a government like Trudeau's?

I know. It's hard to come to terms with it but socialism does not deliver what socialism promises to deliver.

The remedy is less government, not more.
less government(oversight) is what's cause the issue we're in now, mega-corps have been unchecked for too long and now they pretty much control the world.


the remedy is a restructuring of the government, people need to be prioritized over profits and that's never gonna happen in a 100% capitalist system... the only word that exists for that sort of government is "socialist." Really i'm calling for democratic socialism where services that benefit people are the priority, a government where term limits are a thing at every level, a government that prevents politicians from earning a cent outside of their generous salary
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2023, 08:24:30 PM
So end corruption. What a great idea. Instead of a strong government with bad people let's have a strong government with good people. That's inspired bro.

How about until you accomplish that we run with disempowering the system which we both agree is corrupt so they can't suspend your civil rights by declaring there's 'an emergency.'

Just until we find people who are infallible and angelic and willing to be invested with the power to engineer our society from the top down. Once we identify these Philosopher Kings then yeah we totally put them in charge.

Until then maybe we run with the Bill of Rights and let choice be the organizing principle of society. What do you think? Too far right?

Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: residue on January 19, 2023, 09:09:49 PM
So end corruption. What a great idea. Instead of a strong government with bad people let's have a strong government with good people. That's inspired bro.

How about until you accomplish that we run with disempowering the system which we both agree is corrupt so they can't suspend your civil rights by declaring there's 'an emergency.'

Just until we find people who are infallible and angelic and willing to be invested with the power to engineer our society from the top down. Once we identify these Philosopher Kings then yeah we totally put them in charge.

Until then maybe we run with the Bill of Rights and let choice be the organizing principle of society. What do you think? Too far right?
i think if you limit politician's ability to make money while in office the prob will correct itself
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2023, 10:33:34 PM
less government(oversight) is what's cause the issue we're in now, mega-corps have been unchecked for too long and now they pretty much control the world.


the remedy is a restructuring of the government, people need to be prioritized over profits and that's never gonna happen in a 100% capitalist system... the only word that exists for that sort of government is "socialist." Really i'm calling for democratic socialism where services that benefit people are the priority, a government where term limits are a thing at every level, a government that prevents politicians from earning a cent outside of their generous salary

More government for corporations to buy is only going to make things worse.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 20, 2023, 01:05:36 AM

you half get it, you think the problem is sides in politics instead of the whole system
Yeah, both sides pushed this shit. Even Trump was proud of rolling out the clot shot in record time.
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: ROBOAK on January 20, 2023, 03:19:33 AM
Yeah, both sides pushed this shit. Even Trump was proud of rolling out the clot shot in record time.

Trumps a gutless maroon who had the election stolen from him and did nothing about, he just rolled over and hid...
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: Matt on January 20, 2023, 03:20:49 AM
Trumps a gutless maroon who had the election stolen from him and did nothing about, he just rolled over and hid...

Didn't it take like five days to count the ballots?
Title: Re: Tripledemic
Post by: ROBOAK on January 20, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
Didn't it take like five days to count the ballots?


I moment  Nancy "gay hammer attack" pelosi announced "mail in voting" in the late spring I new the election was going to be complete bullshit....