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Who ya got?? (Pic from John Hansens IG).
Franco's got the right gyno-nip, and smaller left leg.
Padilla looks flawless.
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Everyone talks about the 80 Olympia being rigged and tend to ignore 81 probably because there was no Mentzer whining about it for decades.
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Everyone talks about the 80 Olympia being rigged and tend to ignore 81 probably because there was no Mentzer whining about it for decades.
Yup, Arnold was the promotor for the 81 Olympia, which pretty much guaranteed Franco's victory...
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Franco vs Chris Dickerson
Quad size and Quad cuts, & Calves
WTF
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Franco must’ve really paid his dues that year
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Everyone talks about the 80 Olympia being rigged and tend to ignore 81 probably because there was no Mentzer whining about it for decades.
LOL good point
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In 81; Franco had the worst lower body; but the torso was still there, was the best bodybuilder from the back, he also had the condition second to none
.... once you are the best from the back and best conditioned you're the winner .... people say Samir was the trend setter with the Xmas tree back in 83 and the rest is history; best back poses/condition equals 1st place
The Blade beat Cutler in 08' with smaller back and no calves... but had the condition and so on
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Franco shouldn't have won with those flaws (gyno, leg) but his flaws weren't due to a lack of condition. He was otherwise in great shape. Hard as nails and shredded.
Its funny about 80 and 81. Arnold far from his best shape but no injury or impairments while Franco in absolute peak condition just with gyno and injured leg.
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Padilla was pretty shredded and his back was outstanding...
(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
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Padilla was pretty shredded and his back was outstanding...
(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
He looks Great there better arms than franco, I still like Platz as the champ in 81'
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Sadly at that very moment in time ,when you're in the judging panel , you see Franco as a Mr. Olympia champ and both Platz and Padilla as 2 nobodies in great shape .....politics' totally unfair
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Franco must’ve really paid his dues that year
Paid in full
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Platz and Dickerson had the best calves
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Franco vs Chris Dickerson
Quad size and Quad cuts, & Calves
WTF
It always seemed that no one really cared about legs back then, it was in that transition time still
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(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
Danny should have won IMO.....complete balanced physique in great condition.......almost flawless.
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Chris had the best elbows... "Elbows From Hell"...
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(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
Danny should have won IMO.....complete balanced physique in great condition.......almost flawless.
This ^! And...
Chris had the best elbows... "Elbows From Hell"...
...That ^!
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(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
Danny should have won IMO.....complete balanced physique in great condition.......almost flawless.
Agreed.
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(https://www.spcfitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/danny-padilla-workout-routine.jpg)
Danny should have won IMO.....complete balanced physique in great condition.......almost flawless.
Flawless! Bhank would destroy him with his 30lbs of extra muscle though
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Without question Danny should have won.
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Who ya got?? (Pic from John Hansens IG).
Franco's got the right gyno-nip, and smaller left leg.
Padilla looks flawless.
Out of those 3 - Danny is a clear standout
1st & 2nd Tom & Danny - thats a tough call between them 2.
Me I'd go with Tom 1st just to much overall size, mind no complaints if Danny had won, a fine balanced physique
Franco only half a body + The in your face gyno
As For DickUpHisArseSon is better to not talk about him. 🤮🤮🤮
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Franco was third at best. Padilla and Platz were both much better. I prefer Platz but Padilla would have deserved a win as well. The huge legs just weren't in at the time so they didn't know what to do with Platz.
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The 81 Olympia was actually pretty good based on the pics. Aside from Franco 'winning' of course. But Everyone really brought the best conditioning to that show. If the crybabies i.e. Zane, Mentzer, Coe and whoever else would've entered that year it would've been one of the best O's ever. Each of the top 8 were in their all time best shape, including Tinnerrino, Wilkosz, and Johhny Fuller.
Everyone always talks about Danny and Tom in 81. But Roy Callender should've won. He was complete other than calves. He was in the same league in terms of conditioning as Tom and Danny, but larger than Danny and more balanced than Platz. In terms of leg size he's the only one who came close to Platz but had the upper body to match. No torn muscles and probably the best back next to Franco. Though Platz and Dickersons back's are somewhat underrated.
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Without question Danny should have won.
You mean Tom Platz ?
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agreed on tom platz. reminds me of ric flair as well
He's also the reason I got into atg squats in the first place
didn't he get 525 x 23 reps that way at just 198 lbs?
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The 81 Olympia was actually pretty good based on the pics. Aside from Franco 'winning' of course. But Everyone really brought the best conditioning to that show. If the crybabies i.e. Zane, Mentzer, Coe and whoever else would've entered that year it would've been one of the best O's ever. Each of the top 8 were in their all time best shape, including Tinnerrino, Wilkosz, and Johhny Fuller.
Everyone always talks about Danny and Tom in 81. But Roy Callender should've won. He was complete other than calves. He was in the same league in terms of conditioning as Tom and Danny, but larger than Danny and more balanced than Platz. In terms of leg size he's the only one who came close to Platz but had the upper body to match. No torn muscles and probably the best back next to Franco. Though Platz and Dickersons back's are somewhat underrated.
"Other than calves" Then he wasn't complete was he. ::)
That's not to say he didn't look extremely good, far better than DickUpHisArseSon &
Franco.
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Padilla should have won it, also he was unbelievably screwed over at the 75 Universe when the IFBB bumped him for Mike Katz
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Danny wasnt allowed to compete at the 75 Olympia because they put in Waller and Katz in the heavyweights to make the story for Pumping Iron
This is one of the best interviews I have seen he tells a great story about it
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Danny wasnt allowed to compete at the 75 Olympia because they put in Waller and Katz in the heavyweights to make the story for Pumping Iron
This is one of the best interviews I have seen he tells a great story about it
Supposedly he was axed to put on some "schoolboy" outfit for IFBB Schmoes and refused. Then Franco put it on. I have no idea if that was true but given that the IFBB is the home of Schmoe 'n' Tell I wouldn't doubt it. Weider was a weirdo.
Padilla was robbed but al least his dignity wasn't raped.
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I don't post here often -- just when I can see something I can contribute to meaningful.
I remember reading an article back when about what happened -- and it seemed pretty truthful. The gist was that Franco won because of "general high placing" throughout. In other words, where some competitors were marked inconsistently high and low, depending who they were and the round, Franco got consistently high marks. I don't know if he ever got a first (they might've used their points system back then), but let's say he got a bunch of seconds and thirds, no higher, no lower. When you add that up, compared to someone who might've gotten first, third, fifth, and whatever, they can come out the winner. And that *seems* to be what happened.
And why that might've happened I've seen often -- you have a bunch of flawed competitors, so first becomes very unclear. Furthermore, a lot of polarizing physiques. For example, Platz looked freaky amazing, but his upper and lower body didn't match. Yes, impressive, but really unbalanced. Let's face it -- his upper body was always weak, not just compared to his legs, but compared to other competitors. Someone mentioned Roy Callender -- great condition and size, but an ugly physique. I'd have trouble placing him high. Chris Dickerson and Danny Padilla are fantastic -- but quite short. Dickerson also has small arms and those pointy elbows, but incredible calves. The most flawless seemed to be Padilla -- but that's based on pictures. But based on those pictures, that's who I would've picked.
So when we look at the results, you see how it's basically a mess of very flawed physiques:
1 Franco Columbu
2 Chris Dickerson
3 Tom Platz
4 Roy Callender
5 Danny Padilla
DAS
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I don't post here often -- just when I can see something I can contribute to meaningful.
I remember reading an article back when about what happened -- and it seemed pretty truthful. The gist was that Franco won because of "general high placing" throughout. In other words, where some competitors were marked inconsistently high and low, depending who they were and the round, Franco got consistently high marks. I don't know if he ever got a first (they might've used their points system back then), but let's say he got a bunch of seconds and thirds, no higher, no lower. When you add that up, compared to someone who might've gotten first, third, fifth, and whatever, they can come out the winner. And that *seems* to be what happened.
And why that might've happened I've seen often -- you have a bunch of flawed competitors, so first becomes very unclear. Furthermore, a lot of polarizing physiques. For example, Platz looked freaky amazing, but his upper and lower body didn't match. Yes, impressive, but really unbalanced. Let's face it -- his upper body was always weak, not just compared to his legs, but compared to others. Someone mentioned Roy Callender -- great condition and size, but an ugly physique. I'd have trouble placing him high. Chris Dickerson and Danny Padilla are fantastic -- but quite short. Dickerson also has small arms and those pointy elbows, but incredible calves. The most flawless seemed to be Padilla -- but that's based on pictures. But based on those pictures, that's who I would've picked.
So when we look at the results, you see how it's basically a messed of very flawed physiques:
1 Franco Columbu
2 Chris Dickerson
3 Tom Platz
4 Roy Callender
5 Danny Padilla
DAS
Hello Francos wife..
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Since I'm well-versed in the Internet through my other business, I'm used to foolish comments. That said, I'm just relaying the facts as I knew them -- and then many years being involved in bodybuilding judging and also running organizations.
Like I said, based on pictures, Padilla was the clear winner to me. And I think some others, too.
But it's OK to believe what you want.
DAS
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I don't post here often -- just when I can see something I can contribute to meaningful.
I remember reading an article back when about what happened -- and it seemed pretty truthful. The gist was that Franco won because of "general high placing" throughout. In other words, where some competitors were marked inconsistently high and low, depending who they were and the round, Franco got consistently high marks. I don't know if he ever got a first (they might've used their points system back then), but let's say he got a bunch of seconds and thirds, no higher, no lower. When you add that up, compared to someone who might've gotten first, third, fifth, and whatever, they can come out the winner. And that *seems* to be what happened.
And why that might've happened I've seen often -- you have a bunch of flawed competitors, so first becomes very unclear. Furthermore, a lot of polarizing physiques. For example, Platz looked freaky amazing, but his upper and lower body didn't match. Yes, impressive, but really unbalanced. Let's face it -- his upper body was always weak, not just compared to his legs, but compared to other competitors. Someone mentioned Roy Callender -- great condition and size, but an ugly physique. I'd have trouble placing him high. Chris Dickerson and Danny Padilla are fantastic -- but quite short. Dickerson also has small arms and those pointy elbows, but incredible calves. The most flawless seemed to be Padilla -- but that's based on pictures. But based on those pictures, that's who I would've picked.
So when we look at the results, you see how it's basically a mess of very flawed physiques:
1 Franco Columbu
2 Chris Dickerson
3 Tom Platz
4 Roy Callender
5 Danny Padilla
DAS
Do you suck dicks? Are you a peter puffer? I'll bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddamned common courtesy to give him a reach around.
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The 81 Olympia was actually pretty good based on the pics. Aside from Franco 'winning' of course. But Everyone really brought the best conditioning to that show. If the crybabies i.e. Zane, Mentzer, Coe and whoever else would've entered that year it would've been one of the best O's ever. Each of the top 8 were in their all time best shape, including Tinnerrino, Wilkosz, and Johhny Fuller.
Everyone always talks about Danny and Tom in 81. But Roy Callender should've won. He was complete other than calves. He was in the same league in terms of conditioning as Tom and Danny, but larger than Danny and more balanced than Platz. In terms of leg size he's the only one who came close to Platz but had the upper body to match. No torn muscles and probably the best back next to Franco. Though Platz and Dickersons back's are somewhat underrated.
Mr. 21 sets of 21 reps.
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I've always thought Padilla was the rightful winner of this contest but I could see why people prefer Platz or Calllender. Any of these three would have been a worthy first place.
Having said that, someone posted a video of this show a few years back and Franco looked a lot better than he does in the photos. Not better enough to be the winner, but it's interesting how improved he looked on film compared to a static picture.
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Mr. 21 sets of 21 reps.
That was Johnny Fuller and I believe it was 32 sets of 32 reps.
John Hansen did an interview with Roy a year or two ago and asked him about his training sessions. Word was that Roy would spend 8 hrs a day working out. (Or some outrageous number of hours) Roy said he'd get to the gym and work out for an hour or two max then bullshit with other bodybuilders, then train clients, leave, eat then comeback and maybe do cardio....anyway point is as photographers from magazines would come and go they just thought he was there all day long training jours on end. Roy said the notion of training that long was absurd. It was a hood interview. Talks a lot about Arnold, both good and bad, Zane etc... very entertaining interview overall.
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That was Johnny Fuller and I believe it was 32 sets of 32 reps.
John Hansen did an interview with Roy a year or two ago and asked him about his training sessions. Word was that Roy would spend 8 hrs a day working out. (Or some outrageous number of hours) Roy said he'd get to the gym and work out for an hour or two max then bullshit with other bodybuilders, then train clients, leave, eat then comeback and maybe do cardio....anyway point is as photographers from magazines would come and go they just thought he was there all day long training jours on end. Roy said the notion of training that long was absurd. It was a hood interview. Talks a lot about Arnold, both good and bad, Zane etc... very entertaining interview overall.
Johnny Fuller, that's right.
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That was Johnny Fuller and I believe it was 32 sets of 32 reps.
John Hansen did an interview with Roy a year or two ago and asked him about his training sessions. Word was that Roy would spend 8 hrs a day working out. (Or some outrageous number of hours) Roy said he'd get to the gym and work out for an hour or two max then bullshit with other bodybuilders, then train clients, leave, eat then comeback and maybe do cardio....anyway point is as photographers from magazines would come and go they just thought he was there all day long training jours on end. Roy said the notion of training that long was absurd. It was a hood interview. Talks a lot about Arnold, both good and bad, Zane etc... very entertaining interview overall.
25 sets at least were totally pointless
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25 sets at least were totally pointless
Most were also probably imaginary.