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Title: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 02:50:12 PM: Planning on getting in shape for the summer.

Does anyone have a good source for pharms grade melatonin?

Thinking on running the following

Weeks 1-8: 3 mgs melatonin

Weeks 9 - 12: 5 mgs melatonin

Thinking of adding about 200 mgs of caffeine on workout days.

Is this too much? I don't want to damage my liver.

I think the suppression is going to be a real bitch.

What do you recommend for a PCT?
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: joswift on March 19, 2023, 02:50:45 PM: Hardcore as fuck...
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: The Keto Kid on March 19, 2023, 03:01:02 PM: Quote from: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 02:50:12 PM
Planning on getting in shape for the summer.

Does anyone have a good source for pharms grade melatonin?

Thinking on running the following

Weeks 1-8: 3 mgs melatonin

Weeks 9 - 12: 5 mgs melatonin

Thinking of adding about 200 mgs of caffeine on workout days.

Is this too much? I don't want to damage my liver.

I think the suppression is going to be a real bitch.

What do you recommend for a PCT?
Fuck the melatonin and get some pharm grade Marijuana brother!
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Hulkotron on March 19, 2023, 03:08:02 PM: You will want some serious PCT if you run this to completion.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: webstar on March 19, 2023, 03:10:51 PM: See if your doctor will prescribe you, anadrol for your anaemia
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Gym Rat on March 19, 2023, 03:12:27 PM: You'll need Clomid, Nolva, HCG, etc...
That cycle is hardcore and may shut you down permanently...
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Kwon on March 19, 2023, 03:13:53 PM: (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222212.0;attach=260263;image)
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: illuminati on March 19, 2023, 03:39:47 PM: Quote from: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 02:50:12 PM
Planning on getting in shape for the summer.

Does anyone have a good source for pharms grade melatonin?

Thinking on running the following

Weeks 1-8: 3 mgs melatonin

Weeks 9 - 12: 5 mgs melatonin

Thinking of adding about 200 mgs of caffeine on workout days.

Is this too much? I don't want to damage my liver.

I think the suppression is going to be a real bitch.

What do you recommend for a PCT?

You need to go to the Guru on such Exotic & Highly effective compounds

Soul Crusher will surely help you & for that Matter me also ,
We need to know the Secret ratio's

Come on SC tell us.

😂😆🤣😂😆🤣😆🤣
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Taffin on March 19, 2023, 03:47:31 PM: Quote from: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 02:50:12 PM
Planning on getting in shape for the summer.

Does anyone have a good source for pharms grade melatonin?

Thinking on running the following

Weeks 1-8: 3 mgs melatonin

Weeks 9 - 12: 5 mgs melatonin

Thinking of adding about 200 mgs of caffeine on workout days.

Is this too much? I don't want to damage my liver.

I think the suppression is going to be a real bitch.

What do you recommend for a PCT?

Dude! Careful you don't get busted!
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: robcguns on March 19, 2023, 04:01:46 PM: Stand down beak. You trying to turn pro or some shit? Absolute foolishness.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:20:53 PM: ALWAYS make sure to have a good supply of Milk Thistle for proper Liver function,detoxification, and cleansing....good luck doc,be careful buddy.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: dunkin donuts on March 19, 2023, 04:21:59 PM: Consider fasting at least 48hrs a week, it boosts hgh by 500%
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Tennisballz on March 19, 2023, 04:26:52 PM: I think that cycle is a little extreme. I’d switch out the melatonin for tren. And if you’re looking for a more mild fat burner that won’t hit you as hard, throw in some DNP. The thing to remember on a cycle with something like melatonin is to get your bloods done weekly or if possible daily since big changes are happening in the body.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Gym Rat on March 19, 2023, 04:31:06 PM: If beak throws in some "dat dere' Creatine" theres no stopping him from bypassing Nick Walker.
Only issue is Milk Thistle wont be enough. He'll need some TUDCA, NAC and Glutathione, or else he'll cook his liver...
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:32:51 PM: Honestly the stuff looks pretty good after researching it but I don't like feeling knocked out.

Evidence shows that intense exercises disturb antioxidant status of competitive athletes, whereas supplementation with melatonin strengthens antioxidant status in trained athletes in various sports as the compound showed high potency in reduction of the oxidative stress and inflammation markers generated during intense and prolonged exercise.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34470608/

It declines with age and exercise its a smart hormone for an athlete to take strong anti inflammatory and antioxidant and free radical scavenger sound familiar doesnt it? It's part of your endrocine system you old dumbasses should all be taking it

The fact that melatonin has also been found to preserve muscle and liver glycogen in exercised rats adds weight to the notion that melatonin might affect endurance exercise in humans.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12959621/
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:37:25 PM: Quote from: Gym Rat on March 19, 2023, 04:31:06 PM
If beak throws in some "dat dere' Creatine" theres no stopping him from bypassing Nick Walker.
Only issue is Milk Thistle wont be enough. He'll need some TUDCA, NAC and Glutathione, or else he'll cook his liver...
Great points....what the Hell was I thinking ???
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:38:21 PM: Quote from: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
Honestly the stuff looks pretty good after researching it but I don't like feeling knocked out.
Clegg diidn`t seem to mind you being knocked out!! ;D
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:41:03 PM: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8370132/

Melatonin stimulates growth hormone secretion through pathways other than the growth hormone-releasing hormone

Conclusions: Our data indicate that oral administration of melatonin to normal human males increases basal GH release and GH responsiveness to GHRH through the same pathways as pyridostigmine. Therefore it is likely that melatonin plays this facilitatory role at the hypothalamic level by inhibiting endogenous somatostatin release, although with a lower potency than pyridostigmine. The physiological role of melatonin in GH neuroregulation remains to be established.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:42:51 PM: J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2007 Oct 23;4(1):14 [Epub ahead of print] Links
Effects of a single dose of N-Acetyl-5-methoxytryptamine (Melatonin) and resistance exercise on the growth hormone/IGF-1 axis in young males and females.

Nassar E, Mulligan C, Taylor L, Kerksick C, Galbreath M, Greenwood M, Kreider R, Willoughby DS.

ABSTRACT: Melatonin and resistance exercise alone have been shown to increase the levels of growth hormone (GH). The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of ingestion of a single dose of melatonin and heavy resistance exercise on serum GH, somatostatin (SST), and other hormones of the GH/insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) axis. Physically active males (n = 30) and females (n = 30) were randomly assigned to ingest either a melatonin supplement at 0.5 mg or 5.0 mg, or 1.0 mg of dextrose placebo. After a baseline blood sample, participants ingested the supplement and underwent blood sampling every 15 min for 60 min, at which point they underwent a single bout of resistance exercise with the leg press for 7 sets of 7 reps at 85% 1-RM. After exercise, participants provided additional blood samples every 15 min for a total of 120 min. Serum free GH, SST, IGF-1, IGFBP-1, and IGFBP-3 were determined with ELISA. Data were evaluated as the peak pre- and post-exercise values subtracted from baseline and the delta values analyzed with separate three-way ANOVA (p < 0.05). In males, when compared to placebo, 5.0 mg melatonin caused GH to increase (p = 0.017) and SST to decrease prior to exercise (p = 0.031), whereas both 0.5 and 5.0 mg melatonin were greater than placebo after exercise (p = 0.045) and less than placebo for SST. No significant differences occurred for IGF-1; however, males were shown to have higher levels of IGFBP-1 independent of supplementation (p = 0.004). The 5.0 mg melatonin dose resulted in higher IGFBP-3 in males (p = 0.017). In conclusion, for males 5.0 mg melatonin appears to increase serum GH while concomitantly lowering SST levels; however, when combined with resistance exercise both melatonin doses positively impacts GH levels in a manner not entirely dependent on SST.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:45:01 PM: Jesus this idiot just won`t quit.

He quits everything else you`d think he`d give up soon.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:45:46 PM: In males, 5.0 mg melatonin resulted in the greatest increase in serum GH during the pre-exercise period (157% increase from baseline), whereas in the post-exercise period both 0.5 mg (106% increase from baseline) and 5.0 mg (132% increase from baseline) melatonin effectively increased GH compared to placebo.

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-4-14
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:47:00 PM: For the idiots who can't understand studies

https://www.verywellfit.com/how-melatonin-helps-with-fat-loss-and-muscle-gain-4141253#:~:text=Melatonin%20is%20a%20naturally%20occurring%20hormone%20in%20the,and%20provide%20protection%20for%20muscle%20tissue.%201%20%EF%BB%BF
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:47:40 PM: Quote from: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:45:01 PM
Jesus this idiot just won`t quit.

He quits everything else you`d think he`d give up soon.

Eventually you might learn something despite your best efforts to remain ignorant
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:48:12 PM: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34603028/

Melatonin Maintains Anabolic-Catabolic Equilibrium and Regulates Circadian Rhythm During Osteoarthritis Development in Animal Models: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:48:41 PM: Hey stupid....not a single soul is gonna` read a single word of that shit.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: njflex on March 19, 2023, 05:09:45 PM: So soul crusher is a cheater and on level ground with hanky,,thank god..
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Hulkotron on March 19, 2023, 05:11:52 PM: Quote from: njflex on March 19, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
So soul crusher is a cheater and on level ground with hanky,,thank god..

Yes he’s secretly been on a highly anabolic substance that costs $9 at Costco and claiming natural status, very disappointing news.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 19, 2023, 05:14:06 PM: Good night everyone. I just upd the dose. :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 19, 2023, 05:20:17 PM: Quote from: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:48:12 PM
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34603028/

Melatonin Maintains Anabolic-Catabolic Equilibrium and Regulates Circadian Rhythm During Osteoarthritis Development in Animal Models: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis

Get on the stack. Melatonin Gainesville.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: keanu on March 19, 2023, 05:21:09 PM: I heard Melatonin works best with peach cobbler, popsicles, cookies, and anti estrogens.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 19, 2023, 05:21:44 PM: Dude. For real. I’ve tried helping out here.

Quote from: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
Honestly the stuff looks pretty good after researching it but I don't like feeling knocked out.

Evidence shows that intense exercises disturb antioxidant status of competitive athletes, whereas supplementation with melatonin strengthens antioxidant status in trained athletes in various sports as the compound showed high potency in reduction of the oxidative stress and inflammation markers generated during intense and prolonged exercise.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34470608/

It declines with age and exercise its a smart hormone for an athlete to take strong anti inflammatory and antioxidant and free radical scavenger sound familiar doesnt it? It's part of your endrocine system you old dumbasses should all be taking it

The fact that melatonin has also been found to preserve muscle and liver glycogen in exercised rats adds weight to the notion that melatonin might affect endurance exercise in humans.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12959621/
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 05:29:46 PM: Quote from: keanu on March 19, 2023, 05:21:09 PM
I heard Melatonin works best with peach cobbler, popsicles, cookies, and anti estrogens.

Post workout cobbler? I think I'm gonna do it!
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 05:43:14 PM: Quote from: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Eventually you might learn something despite your best efforts to remain ignorant
OK Mr. Google !! ;D
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 05:55:33 PM: Quote from: wes on March 19, 2023, 05:43:14 PM
OK Mr. Google !! ;D

He seriously must be trolling. No one can be this much of a tool.

But when you look back and remember all the shit he's said, all the lies he's told, all the excuses and not being able to give anyone any credit.... he really may be this biggest A-hole ever.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Flexacon on March 19, 2023, 06:04:00 PM: Quote from: bhank on March 19, 2023, 04:32:51 PM
Honestly the stuff looks pretty good after researching it but I don't like feeling knocked out.

PTSD flashbacks to your fight with Clegg?
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: robcguns on March 19, 2023, 06:21:43 PM: Quote from: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 05:29:46 PM
Post workout cobbler? I think I'm gonna do it!

Stop trying to push the envelope.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 19, 2023, 07:43:50 PM: Quote from: beakdoctor on March 19, 2023, 05:55:33 PM
He seriously must be trolling. No one can be this much of a tool.

But when you look back and remember all the shit he's said, all the lies he's told, all the excuses and not being able to give anyone any credit.... he really may be this biggest A-hole ever.
May be the biggest asshole ever...no.....he is totally the biggest asshole ever bar none!!
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: illuminati on March 19, 2023, 09:12:45 PM: Quote from: wes on March 19, 2023, 07:43:50 PM
May be the biggest asshole ever...no.....he is totally the biggest asshole ever bar none!!

Yes that & there's somethings very wrong in that huge noggin
To paraphrase MattC I fear for his woman & those kids he's a very unstable & Delusional person
& getting worse by the day.

And I'm being serious. .
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Bevo on March 19, 2023, 11:51:27 PM: I’ve grown to like bhanky like a brother
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Mohammed Omari on March 19, 2023, 11:55:13 PM: Quote from: Bevo on March 19, 2023, 11:51:27 PM
I’ve grown to like bhanky like a brother
That's a first. Not even Brian's brother managed that.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Gym Rat on March 20, 2023, 01:34:21 AM: I want to thank SC for turning me on to the dark side.
3 mg of Melatonin last night, I woke up more jacked, full, vascular, shredded, grainy & veiny.
Of course you ruined my NATTY+ status of TRT only in the "natural-range" but its OK.
Its something I now have to deal with. Im going to up the dose and use some "Animal Rage" PWO before the gym.
Not sure if I can handle this drug-fueled insanity for long though.

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Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Kwon on March 20, 2023, 02:44:23 AM: Quote from: njflex on March 19, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
So soul crusher is a cheater and on level ground with hanky,,thank god..

Define cheater my italian brother.

Is Creatine cheating?
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Taffin on March 20, 2023, 03:10:19 AM: Quote from: wes on March 19, 2023, 04:48:41 PM
Hey stupid....not a single soul is gonna` read a single word of that shit.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/uFmLnTtvbv5yBdpfzV/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Taffin on March 20, 2023, 03:12:02 AM: Quote from: illuminati on March 19, 2023, 09:12:45 PM
Yes that & there's somethings very wrong in that huge noggin
To paraphrase MattC I fear for his woman & those kids he's a very unstable & Delusional person
& getting worse by the day.

And I'm being serious. .

Quote from: Bevo on March 19, 2023, 11:51:27 PM
I’ve grown to like bhanky like a brother

A 'special' brother..?
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 20, 2023, 03:19:30 AM: Quote from: Taffin on March 20, 2023, 03:12:02 AM
A 'special' brother..?
I love how when Hankys taking zillions of pics of himself and subjecting us to the torture of having to look at them ad infinitum, he looks so pleased with his results.....goofy fucking smile and contorted facial expressions.......hes very "special" indeed.

Fucking Dork Of Peace
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: GymnJuice on March 20, 2023, 03:28:51 AM: Quote from: Mohammed Omari on March 19, 2023, 11:55:13 PM
That's a first. Not even Brian's brother managed that.

Ouch.

;D
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2023, 06:19:17 AM: Quote from: Kwon on March 20, 2023, 02:44:23 AM
Define cheater my italian brother.

Is Creatine cheating?
depends on the version monohydrate or Creatine Ethyl Ester. ...
Creatine Hydrochloride. ...
Buffered Creatine. ...
Liquid Creatine. ...
Creatine Magnesium Chelate.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: wes on March 20, 2023, 07:12:50 AM: Quote from: njflex on March 20, 2023, 06:19:17 AM
depends on the version monohydrate or Creatine Ethyl Ester. ...
Creatine Hydrochloride. ...
Buffered Creatine. ...
Liquid Creatine. ...
Creatine Magnesium Chelate.
;D
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Rambone on March 20, 2023, 08:23:53 AM: I’d add 3g of L-Carnitine. Studies show it increases melatonin receptor density
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: Relentless458 on March 20, 2023, 08:28:26 AM: Scrap your current cycle idea...instead use Gakic, Creakic, Luekic, PLASTIC.....all by MuscleTech....the company that used to sponsor all top Olympia athletes like Jay cutler, Branch Warren, Dexter Jackson etc.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: njflex on March 20, 2023, 09:18:39 AM: Quote from: Relentless458 on March 20, 2023, 08:28:26 AM
Scrap your current cycle idea...instead use Gakic, Creakic, Luekic, PLASTIC.....all by MuscleTech....the company that used to sponsor all top Olympia athletes like Jay cutler, Branch Warren, Dexter Jackson etc.
just released due to recent findings mel-tech 999.999999 pct more potent than kirkland or any knock off brands...soul crusher is doing photoshoot now with a lab coated dr,and aquafina bottle in hand.
Title: Re: Feedback on my next cycle
Post by: dunkin donuts on March 20, 2023, 02:48:26 PM: Double your dose of fish oil. Get healthy or die trying.