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Title: was oliva special?
Post by: SGT BARNES on April 07, 2023, 09:30:32 AM
In answer to the question of why was Oliva special -

physique was not complete like modern, but the proportions like this were never seen at the time

Grandpa rant over
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: affeman on April 07, 2023, 09:35:47 AM
Oliva was all arms, dude barely had a torso. 20 yr old Arnold sh*ts all over this Negro ::)
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Post by: Rambone on April 07, 2023, 09:45:45 AM
Oliva was special but Oliva Jr. is more specialer
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 07, 2023, 10:01:12 AM
Olivia deserves credit for being the only one to pull off the “victory” pose.  Only one I can think of, at least.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: mops on April 07, 2023, 10:01:55 AM
Oliva also worked as a Chicago police officer for 27 years ( from 1976 to 2003)

https://m.cpdp.co/officer/21250/sergio-oliva/
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 07, 2023, 10:05:52 AM
Phenomenal
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Post by: pamith on April 07, 2023, 10:06:27 AM
My nikka
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 07, 2023, 10:07:12 AM
Oliva was all arms, dude barely had a torso. 20 yr old Arnold sh*ts all over this Negro ::)

It’s pretty close, Arnold wins because of his height but Oliva beats him on several body parts
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: robcguns on April 07, 2023, 10:11:44 AM
Olivia deserves credit for being the only one to pull off the “victory” pose.  Only one I can think of, at least.

Priest does it very well also.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Flexacon on April 07, 2023, 10:14:52 AM
Oliva was all arms, dude barely had a torso. 20 yr old Arnold sh*ts all over this Negro ::)

Small waist, a lot of lats, decent quads. He made guys even in that era look blocky.

Never liked his his arms. The bicep attachment was actually too low. Didn't look good. If he was a young pro now everyone would say he had synthol in them because of size and cos they just look odd.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: michael arvilla on April 07, 2023, 10:16:28 AM
Yes (imo) very special .... never before had the world seen proportions like his! (Arm size / Tiny waist ) he had the best bodybuilding genetics ever seen up to that point! Truly something unique/ special/ different!)
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: wes on April 07, 2023, 10:16:44 AM
Oliva had long muscle bellies with zero weak points....his major problem was getting into contest condition.

Great genetics.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: BB on April 07, 2023, 10:22:07 AM
When you compare him to his peers, yes, he was great. He spanned Larry Scott's era, Arnold's era, and even the mid 80's, and was able to place great to well in each of them. There's something to be said for that.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Dokey111 on April 07, 2023, 10:59:31 AM
1%ile genetics.  Calves on top of everything else.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2023, 11:19:05 AM
It’s pretty close, Arnold wins because of his height but Oliva beats him on several body parts
                arnold had the larger noggin.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 08, 2023, 04:13:32 AM
Priest does it very well also.

Yes, great point

Seems like full forearms/calves and a small waist are the ticket
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Griffith on April 08, 2023, 04:36:22 AM
It’s pretty close, Arnold wins because of his height but Oliva beats him on several body parts

Arnold won because of much better conditioning and posing.

His posing ability also helped him hide his weaknesses, such as his wide waist.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Griffith on April 08, 2023, 04:37:40 AM
In answer to the question of why was Oliva special -

physique was not complete like modern, but the proportions like this were never seen at the time

Grandpa rant over

Modern 'complete' physiques look like complete sh*t in comparison.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: hench on April 08, 2023, 04:40:23 AM
Yea and if you actually compare bodyparts its only calves and forearms Oliva takes at this point. Well Arnolds calves better from the back.
Arnold won because of much better conditioning and posing.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Dokey111 on April 08, 2023, 04:54:40 AM
Modern 'complete' physiques look like complete sh*t in comparison.

Hope this helps.

this
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Royalty on April 08, 2023, 05:05:19 AM
Prime Sergio vs Amateur Ronnie Coleman
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 08, 2023, 05:53:56 AM
Oliva was special but Oliva Jr. is more specialer special ed
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Post by: kepler2008 on April 08, 2023, 06:54:04 AM
Nothing special ?!! He was quite phénoménal.

(https://www.ironcompany.com/media/mf_webp/png/media/magefan_blog/2019/07/Bodybuilder-Sergio-Oliva.webp)
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Post by: kepler2008 on April 08, 2023, 06:57:17 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/18/dd/e318dd95094823a7375e2cc812edb5db.jpg)
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Hulkotron on April 08, 2023, 06:59:57 AM
One of those guys who looks like an alien alone, but looks like nothing special most of the time when photographed next to other good BBs.

Granted he’s mostly compared to Arnold who is probably the greatest ever.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: kepler2008 on April 08, 2023, 07:01:51 AM
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2JcAAOSwpAJj18us/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: beakdoctor on April 08, 2023, 07:19:18 AM
That 72 Olympia was probably the best condition Sergio wver brought to the contest stage. Arnold was a bit off that year compared to 71 and 73. But I still didn't see the big uproar over it. A matched his size and was still better conditioned despite being off.

Thos shots of Sergio standing alone in the field is the best Sergio ever looked imo. Yet he never brought that look to the stage. Sergio was great, very special genetics. I'd say one of a kind genetics.  To this day no one else has shown those proportions. He was too good. He knew he could show up and win without having to diet as hard as the other competitors. 
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: keanu on April 08, 2023, 07:34:45 AM
Every bodypart was a strong point. Small waist, joints, wide. Best genetics ever. Didn't know how to train pre contest to be ripped.
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Post by: Vince B on April 08, 2023, 07:38:03 AM
Best physique of all time. I put Sergio’s photo on a beach in Australia.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Griffith on April 08, 2023, 08:15:06 AM
Prime Sergio vs Amateur Ronnie Coleman

Not a prime Sergio there, that's from the 1980's. He had knee issues by then which affected his leg training.

Also has a torn left triceps.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: hench on April 08, 2023, 08:47:05 AM
That 72 Olympia was probably the best condition Sergio wver brought to the contest stage. Arnold was a bit off that year compared to 71 and 73. But I still didn't see the big uproar over it. A matched his size and was still better conditioned despite being off.

Thos shots of Sergio standing alone in the field is the best Sergio ever looked imo. Yet he never brought that look to the stage. Sergio was great, very special genetics. I'd say one of a kind genetics.  To this day no one else has shown those proportions. He was too good. He knew he could show up and win without having to diet as hard as the other competitors.
Exactly like Hanky today!
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Matt on April 08, 2023, 12:30:02 PM
Former UFC fighter Yoel Romero reminds me of his fellow Black Cuban Sergio Oliva:
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Moontrane on April 08, 2023, 01:05:31 PM
Epically poor poser but some of the best BB genetics ever put in service.

(https://www.drworkout.fitness/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Sergio-Olivas-Workout-Routine-and-Diet-Plan.jpg)

Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Griffith on April 08, 2023, 02:30:44 PM
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson331_h.jpg)

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Post by: beakdoctor on April 08, 2023, 02:42:17 PM
Exactly like Hanky today!

LOL....difference was Sergio actually showed up!
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Post by: Flexacon on April 08, 2023, 02:51:54 PM
Best physique of all time. I put Sergio’s photo on a beach in Australia.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=684201.0;attach=1434537;image)

Arms look much better aesthetically as well as freakishness here. Maybe he just needed to be in better condition.

The other thing not mentioned is that he trained using very basic movements like only flat bench for chest and he was still able to reach near complete development.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 10, 2023, 12:46:23 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/18/dd/e318dd95094823a7375e2cc812edb5db.jpg)
3 greats right there.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Rambone on April 10, 2023, 03:03:49 AM
3 greats right there.

Nubret holding his own there. Looks awesome
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 10, 2023, 03:50:13 AM
Best physique of all time. I put Sergio’s photo on a beach in Australia.

Looks hard here. Most pics he looks very bloofy and soft.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: robcguns on April 10, 2023, 03:53:37 AM
Former UFC fighter Yoel Romero reminds me of his fellow Black Cuban Sergio Oliva:

Why does everyone say this guy is so jakkked. Doesn’t look like much.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Matt on April 10, 2023, 04:09:41 AM
Why does everyone say this guy is so jakkked. Doesn’t look like much.

I think they are saying that by UFC/fighter standards - not by bodybuilding standards. He was also late thirties to 40+ fighting top fighters in their twenties, and doing well, if not beating them. He also had about 20 years as a top combat sports athlete. I don't think he even trains with weights much, and for what it's worth, he always tested clean under USADA. He's a genetic freak.

You'd be right to say he isn't impressive by bodybuilding standards, but he's very jacked for a fighter.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: thebrink on April 10, 2023, 05:39:09 AM
No torso, arms way to big for everything else, albeit he was massive
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Gym Rat on April 11, 2023, 05:20:28 AM
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Post by: booty on April 12, 2023, 02:25:06 AM
Yes (imo) very special .... never before had the world seen proportions like his! (Arm size / Tiny waist ) he had the best bodybuilding genetics ever seen up to that point! Truly something unique/ special/ different!)
Agreed. Probably the best bodybuilding genetics ever.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Kwon on April 12, 2023, 02:27:52 AM
He was so special that they made a character called "Biscuit Oliva" in Japan

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ii8850-G8S0/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 13, 2023, 12:40:48 AM
Huge physique for being a rice eater.^
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Kwon on April 13, 2023, 12:47:33 AM
Huge physique for being a rice eater.^

His character came from Cuba in that series
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 13, 2023, 12:54:04 AM
His character came from Cuba in that series
Huge physique for a sugarcane eater and cigar smoker.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: ikke on April 13, 2023, 04:30:42 AM
Yes, great point

Seems like full forearms/calves and a small waist are the ticket

not IMO, priest's chest dissappears when he lifts his arms above his head.

V-pose was never succesfully duplicated IMO.
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: hipolito mejia on April 19, 2023, 06:00:43 AM
Oliva had long muscle bellies with zero weak points....his major problem was getting into contest condition.

Great genetics.

And contest condition in the late 60's was a completely different ball park ...  In other words, at the time  he felt didnt really need to get leaner
Title: Re: was oliva special?
Post by: Grape Ape on April 19, 2023, 06:36:52 AM
He was so special that they made a character called "Biscuit Oliva" in Japan

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ii8850-G8S0/maxresdefault.jpg)

Not special, there's tons of biscuits people all over japan.

Might even have a "Biscuit Hankins" at this point.