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Title: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 16, 2023, 08:57:32 PM
Weird.

I thought guns were supposed to keep children SAFE.

🙄
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Rusty Trombone on April 16, 2023, 10:00:33 PM

Fuck off and drink some maple syrup Trudeau jizz liqueur.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 12:27:46 AM
I think the definition of a mass shooting should be 9+ people.

With 4+ people, the vast majority of those killed are criminals/gang members, and unlikely to impact you unless you are in that lifestyle.

Basically, "mass shootings" should be shootings that are random - as random violence can impact anyone, whereas targeted violence will only impact those associated with crime/shady people.

Getbiggers, take note: OAK is scared of things that have no chance of ever hurting him. Be it 99.97% survivable viruses, or Black gangbangers killing eachother.

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 12:31:26 AM
Fuck off and drink some maple syrup Trudeau jizz liqueur.

This.

OAK needs to commence swallowing the sperm of Justin Trudeau, ASAP.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 09:17:24 AM
….because GUNS keep us all safe.

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Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 09:34:39 AM
….because GUNS keep us all safe.

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They keep us safe because historically, millions of people have been murdered in countries where only the government has guns. If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.



But apparently you missed all of 20th century history.

You also fail to compare White areas of the USA with comparable areas in Canada. Here in Thunder Bay, we have more violent crime and murders than the American average by far, because of our high Indigenous population and Black gang members from Toronto who came here to sell drugs. If what you were saying was true, any Canadian city should be safer than any American city because we have far more gun control.

If you were smart enough to actually control your data for race, you would see high gun areas that are 90%+ White are safer than racially diverse areas in Canada, like Thunder Bay or Toronto.

But you are too stupid to understand how to control for more than one variable, and too stupid to understand what would happen if guns got banned.

You have also been explained multiple times that 75% of all murders in the USA are committed by Black and Hispanic people, and that almost all gun crime is committed by Democrats [mainly because most Blacks and Hispanics are Democrats]. But you don't understand that because you're stupid.

Also - we've had multiple stabbings in Canada just in the past month. You ignore those - because you're stupid.

But then again...you thought Covid was a deadly virus, lol. Again...because you're stupid.

CANADIAN STABBINGS IN JUST THE PAST MONTH:

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2023/04/16/halifax-police-investigating-after-stabbing-at-dartmouth-hotel-sends-one-to-hospital.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ukrainian-newcomer-recovering-after-being-stabbed-at-edmonton-bus-stop-1.6812076

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/1-hospital-following-northeast-calgary-stabbing-1.6356228

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/man-stabbed-at-southeast-edmonton-bus-stop

https://www.kelownacapnews.com/news/lower-mainland-youth-stabbed-in-targeted-incident/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/surrey-bus-stabbing-april-11-teen-dead-1.6807626

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/fatal-stabbing-vaping-argument-casts-pall-over-downtown-vancouver-1.6795679

https://globalnews.ca/news/9583397/police-officer-killed-montreal-quebec-officer-death/

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ttc-keele-station-stabbing/

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/03/21/sainte-foy-stabbing-man-shot-police-quebec-city/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/20/bedford-nova-scotia-school-stabbing

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-with-yet-another-stabbing-2023-is-quickly-becoming-year-of-the-knife
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: oldgolds on April 17, 2023, 09:47:57 AM
I don't believe that Kansas City story for a minute....Probably much more to the  story....The truth always seems to come out later and is usually vastly different...
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 09:49:32 AM
“They keep us safe because historically, millions of people have been murdered in countries where only the government has guns. If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.”

Never said the government should confiscate ALL guns. Just would like to see the US have SOME type of gun control measures like other developed countries.


Also.

If the government started KILLING PEOPLE do you really believe people would vote for them in the next election?

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Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 09:53:20 AM
I don't believe that Kansas City story for a minute....Probably much more to the  story....The truth always seems to come out later and is usually vastly different...

Yes.

I’m sure the NRA will come out with their side of the story shortly.

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Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:02:29 AM
“They keep us safe because historically, millions of people have been murdered in countries where only the government has guns. If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.”

Never said the government should confiscate ALL guns. Just would like to see the US have SOME type of gun control measures like other developed countries.


Also.

If the government started KILLING PEOPLE do you really believe people would vote for them in the next election?

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Stop saying "developed countries", you disingenuous kunt.

You are referring to WHITE-MAJORITY COUNTRIES, and those countries have less violence because they have a higher percentage of White people - SOMETHING YOU HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED ON HERE A DOZEN TIMES BY NOW.

And as those countries have increased their populations of MENA men [Middle East and North African], their crime rates have SKYROCKETED, despite having the gun control laws that YOU keep saying will make all these problems go away.

Compare the White Canadian murder rate with the White American murder rate - both are just under 2.0 murders per 100,000 population per year. Only as the percentage non-White of non-White people goes up, so too do the murders. Which already happened in Toronto years ago, which had a higher murder rate in 2019 than New York City, but had TWO murders in 1974 when it was 98% White, and known as "Toronto the Good".

All the shit you bitch about is explained completely by racial demographics except for mass shootings involving RANDOM people, which only kill about 300 Americans per year, which make your odds of dying of one less than one in a million per year.

About as "deadly" as Covid, so I understand why a mathematically illiterate person like you fears them.

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1557785838846713857
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 10:09:50 AM
Stop saying "developed countries", you disingenuous kunt.

You are referring to WHITE-MAJORITY COUNTRIES, and those countries have less violence because they have a higher percentage of White people - SOMETHING YOU HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED ON HERE A DOZEN TIMES BY NOW.

And as those countries have increased their populations of MENA men [Middle East and North African], their crime rates have SKYROCKETED, despite having the gun control laws that YOU keep saying will make all these problems go away.

Compare the White Canadian murder rate with the White American murder rate - both are just under 2.0 murders per 100,000 population per year. Only as the percentage non-White of non-White people goes up, so too do the murders. Which already happened in Toronto years ago, which had a higher murder rate in 2019 than New York City, but had TWO murders in 1974 when it was 98% White, and known as "Toronto the Good".

All the shit you bitch about is explained completely by racial demographics except for mass shootings involving RANDOM people, which only kill about 300 Americans per year, which make your odds of dying of one less than one in a million per year.

About as "deadly" as Covid, so I understand why a mathematically illiterate person like you fears them.

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1557785838846713857

And your solution to this problem is…..give EVERYONE more guns.

🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
And your solution to this problem is…..give EVERYONE more guns.

🙄🙄🙄

Not necessarily. Well...maybe now with Trudeau's catch-and-release policy for violent offenders...

I never thought I might need a firearm for my own self-defense here in Canada, but now I think it may be possible in the future.

That being said, I would be fine if we just stopped IMPORTING people with drastically higher rates of violence. You may not see it now - but eventually you will see it.



OAK - you say you don't want to confiscate guns, but I don't believe you.  But in any case - if you became a full dictator of North America tomorrow, what would you do about guns?

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Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 10:18:33 AM
Stop saying "developed countries", you disingenuous kunt.

You are referring to WHITE-MAJORITY COUNTRIES, and those countries have less violence because they have a higher percentage of White people - SOMETHING YOU HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED ON HERE A DOZEN TIMES BY NOW.

And as those countries have increased their populations of MENA men [Middle East and North African], their crime rates have SKYROCKETED, despite having the gun control laws that YOU keep saying will make all these problems go away.

Compare the White Canadian murder rate with the White American murder rate - both are just under 2.0 murders per 100,000 population per year. Only as the percentage non-White of non-White people goes up, so too do the murders. Which already happened in Toronto years ago, which had a higher murder rate in 2019 than New York City, but had TWO murders in 1974 when it was 98% White, and known as "Toronto the Good".

All the shit you bitch about is explained completely by racial demographics except for mass shootings involving RANDOM people, which only kill about 300 Americans per year, which make your odds of dying of one less than one in a million per year.

About as "deadly" as Covid, so I understand why a mathematically illiterate person like you fears them.

https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1557785838846713857 (https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1557785838846713857)


We all know exactly what kind of person you are. I bet you just shrink into yourself when you stand next to a 6'5 black guy at the bus stop knowing he could obliterate you with a whim and worse knowing your girl, your mom, your sisters and even your grandma's panties flood when they see him.


also you're dumb as fuck for believing a stupid meme
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:21:45 AM

We all know exactly what kind of person you are. I bet you just shrink into yourself when you stand next to a 6'5 black guy at the bus stop knowing he could obliterate you with a whim and worse knowing your girl, your mom, your sisters and even your grandma's panties flood when they see him.

Are you suggesting Black men are prone to violence, and incapable of understanding facts?

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also you're dumb as fuck for believing a stupid meme

Are you saying the data in that meme Twitter post is incorrect?

If yes - do you have the correct data?

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Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 10:34:12 AM
Are you suggesting Black men are prone to violence, and incapable of understanding facts?

?

Are you saying the data in that meme Twitter post is incorrect?

If yes - do you have the correct data?

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im sorry god made you 5'3 and im sorry you've turned that into your personality
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 10:35:31 AM
im sorry god made you 5'3 and im sorry you've turned that into your personality

LOL

Matt is getting DESTROYED in this thread from all angles.

I’m glad I made it.

😆
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2023, 11:01:48 AM
im sorry god made you 5'3 and im sorry you've turned that into your personality

He destroyed you with real data. You don’t even know the crime demographics in the city where you live. Hope this helps:


 https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2021-enforcement-report.pdf

The Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (61.7%) and Hispanic arrestees (30.9%) account for the majority of Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrestees while Asian/Pacific Islander arrestees (3.9%) and White (3.3%) arrestees account for the remaining portions of the Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 11:40:29 AM
He destroyed you with real data. You don’t even know the crime demographics in the city where you live. Hope this helps:


 https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2021-enforcement-report.pdf (https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2021-enforcement-report.pdf)

The Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (61.7%) and Hispanic arrestees (30.9%) account for the majority of Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrestees while Asian/Pacific Islander arrestees (3.9%) and White (3.3%) arrestees account for the remaining portions of the Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population.
I dont care about murderers, I care about victims, that what I'd potentially be. Now what race is more statistically likely to kill you, that would be your own.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 11:46:39 AM
im sorry god made you 5'3 and im sorry you've turned that into your personality

Is it possible that violent crime varies by race - or do you prefer to ignore all available data on the subject?
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 11:47:55 AM
Is it possible that violent crime varies by race - or do you prefer to ignore all available data on the subject?


the majority of white people are killed by what race?
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 11:53:58 AM
I dont care about murderers, I care about victims, that what I'd potentially be. Now what race is more statistically likely to kill you, that would be your own.

That's because ALL OF US are more likely to get killed by someone we know - as such cases make up a majority of all murders, whereas random crime is only a small portion of it.

I.e.,

93% of Black murder victims are killed by other Blacks.
86% of White people are killed by other Whites.

The #1 cause of death for Black men aged 18-34 is homicide, and the #1 cause of death for White men aged 18-34 is accidents.

So in both cases, we bring this on ourselves.

But OAK's contention is with the murder rate of the USA, period.

If he cared about this, he would not want an increase in racial diversity, which is the #1 cause of the number of murders increasing in North America increasing.

I read that over 90% of murderers are Democrats too. I don't know if that number is exactly correct, but it's surely pretty close.

OAK says nothing about that. He promotes endless third world immigration in Canada, even though it has greatly increased our level of violent crime.

Why is OAK complaining about something that he wants, and votes for?
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 11:56:12 AM
He destroyed you with real data. You don’t even know the crime demographics in the city where you live. Hope this helps:


 https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2021-enforcement-report.pdf

The Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population is similarly distributed. Black arrestees (61.7%) and Hispanic arrestees (30.9%) account for the majority of Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrestees while Asian/Pacific Islander arrestees (3.9%) and White (3.3%) arrestees account for the remaining portions of the Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter arrest population.

Thank you for that, Thin Lizzy.

Anyone with any intellectual maturity should be able to be mature about this and stick with the facts, without calling someone racist, or worry about being called that.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 11:57:36 AM

the majority of white people are killed by what race?

As per my previous post:

86% of White people are killed by other Whites.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 11:57:52 AM
That's because ALL OF US are more likely to get killed by someone we know - as such cases make up a majority of all murders, whereas random crime is only a small portion of it.

I.e.,

93% of Black murder victims are killed by other Blacks.
86% of White people are killed by other Whites.

The #1 cause of death for Black men aged 18-34 is homicide, and the #1 cause of death for White men aged 18-34 is accidents.

So in both cases, we bring this on ourselves.

But OAK's contention is with the murder rate of the USA, period.

If he cared about this, he would not want an increase in racial diversity, which is the #1 cause of the number of murders increasing in North America increasing.

I read that over 90% of murderers are Democrats too. I don't know if that number is exactly correct, but it's surely pretty close.

OAK says nothing about that. He promotes endless third world immigration in Canada, even though it has greatly increased our level of violent crime.

Why is OAK complaining about something that he wants, and votes for?


you think they take your party affiliation when they arrest you? or you think gangbangers are registered voters? are you daft
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 11:58:41 AM

you think they take your party affiliation when they arrest you? or you think gangbangers are registered voters? are you daft

Well...somehow I don't think gangbangers are lining up to vote Republican.  ;D
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 12:00:01 PM
That's because ALL OF US are more likely to get killed by someone we know - as such cases make up a majority of all murders, whereas random crime is only a small portion of it.

I.e.,

93% of Black murder victims are killed by other Blacks.
86% of White people are killed by other Whites.

The #1 cause of death for Black men aged 18-34 is homicide, and the #1 cause of death for White men aged 18-34 is accidents.

So in both cases, we bring this on ourselves.

But OAK's contention is with the murder rate of the USA, period.

If he cared about this, he would not want an increase in racial diversity, which is the #1 cause of the number of murders increasing in North America increasing.

I read that over 90% of murderers are Democrats too. I don't know if that number is exactly correct, but it's surely pretty close.

OAK says nothing about that. He promotes endless third world immigration in Canada, even though it has greatly increased our level of violent crime.

Why is OAK complaining about something that he wants, and votes for?

2021 Gun Deaths:

US: 45,222

Canada: 297


"More guns equal less deaths."

       - Matt Canning

 ::)

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2023, 12:06:15 PM
I dont care about murderers, I care about victims, that what I'd potentially be. Now what race is more statistically likely to kill you, that would be your own.

That’s why liberals like you talk a good game, but you want nothing to do with the blacks that you pretend to care so much about. Long Distance Activists.

The reality is blacks, and Hispanics do almost all the robbing and killing in New York City. If you are a victim, the perp is almost certainly going to be one of those two groups. I continually have to remind myself of the level of cognitive dissidence among liberals.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 12:16:49 PM
That’s why liberals like you talk a good game, but you want nothing to do with the blacks that you pretend to care so much about. Long Distance Activists.
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 12:28:34 PM
2021 Gun Deaths:

US: 45,222

Canada: 297


"More guns equal less deaths."

       - Matt Canning

 ::)

You're including suicide in that figure, you fucking idiot!

Canada had 4,500 suicides last year, and the USA has ten times the population. So pro-rata, that would be equal to 45,000 suicides in the USA.

So yet AGAIN, the Canadian and American numbers are very similar. And you're not even including the 13,000 euthanasia deaths performed by Canada's government.

You really are a disingenuous fool, OAK. Except you're not fooling anyone here.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 12:30:11 PM
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it

And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 12:44:28 PM
You're including suicide in that figure, you fucking idiot!

Canada had 4,500 suicides last year, and the USA has ten times the population. So pro-rata, that would be equal to 45,000 suicides in the USA.

So yet AGAIN, the Canadian and American numbers are very similar. And you're not even including the 13,000 euthanasia deaths performed by Canada's government.

You really are a disingenuous fool, OAK. Except you're not fooling anyone here.

LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


 ;D
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2023, 01:06:33 PM
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it

It might be diverse, but it’s very segregated.

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2023, 01:08:27 PM
And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.

He does. Just can’t admit it.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: TheGrinch on April 17, 2023, 01:09:41 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/4YM7vXP/wooosh.jpg)
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.
notice violence? am i fuking batman? no, it's new york, you keep your head down and mind your business. Sure i know to stay away from the poorer neighborhoods but i also know to stay the fuck away from penn station when a ranger playoff game is happening
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 05:09:23 PM
LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


 ;D

Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 05:14:32 PM
It might be diverse, but it’s very segregated.

Exactly - people tend to self-segregate, even in areas that are demographically diverse. That's why so many people manage to escape this stuff - they just avoid it by way of voluntary self-segregation.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 05:15:47 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/4YM7vXP/wooosh.jpg)

LOL!!! 😂

Even AI is forced to admit this - and then starts touching on the usual litany of bullshit of blaming everything on White people.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 05:22:10 PM
notice violence? am i fuking batman? no, it's new york, you keep your head down and mind your business. Sure i know to stay away from the poorer neighborhoods but i also know to stay the fuck away from penn station when a ranger playoff game is happening

Poor White areas have lower murder rates than middle class and rich Black areas.

There are more poor Whites and Asians there are ALL Black people in the USA. Those poor Whites and Asians - who, again, outnumber the ENTIRE Black population, have a lower absolute number of murders than all Black people.

The bottom line is that as an individual predictor of murder, race is the most powerful single variable there is to calculate.

While poverty is somewhat of a proxy, race is the biggest predictor.

It would probably be sex or age...but those are spread too evenly to met.

If there was a city that had a population of 95% men under 40, you'd probably have a stronger predictor.

It doesn't matter if you don't acknowledge that murder rate varies by rate. It just "is" whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 17, 2023, 05:27:40 PM
Exactly - people tend to self-segregate, even in areas that are demographically diverse. That's why so many people manage to escape this stuff - they just avoid it by way of voluntary self-segregation.

This is a very liberal area of Brooklyn. 2% Black and the Hispanics all live on the Southside.

Based on data from the 2010 United States census, the combined population of the Williamsburg and North Side/South Side areas was 78,700, a change of 6,301 (8%) from the 72,399 counted in 2000. Covering an area of 923.54 acres (373.74 ha), the neighborhood had a population density of 85.2 inhabitants per acre (54,500/sq mi; 21,100/km2).[3]

The racial make-up of the neighborhood was 66.5% (52,334) White, 26.3% (20,727) Hispanic or Latino, 2.9% (2,275) Asian, 2.8% (2,186) African American, 0.4% (361) from other races, and 1% (811) from two or more races.[4]
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 05:31:32 PM
Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

So much for Canada having a higher gun homicide rate than the US.

 ::) ::) ::)

(https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/ActingOnData/2021/firearm_Page_1.png)
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 05:33:36 PM
So much for Canada having a higher gun homicide rate than the US.

 ::) ::) ::)

(https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/ActingOnData/2021/firearm_Page_1.png)

I didn't say that. I said the murder rate is exactly the fucking same once you compare by race, you dick.

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2023, 05:34:07 PM
LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


 ;D
Math is racist.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 05:34:27 PM
Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

Notice how the US has a 20,000% HIGHER firearm homicide rate than Japan.

Which country has more "white people" Matt?

 8)

(https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/ActingOnData/2021/firearm_Page_1.png)
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 05:36:51 PM
Math Matt is racist.

Fixed.

 :)

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 07:33:04 PM
Notice how the US has a 20,000% HIGHER firearm homicide rate than Japan.

Which country has more "white people" Matt?

 8)

(https://www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/ActingOnData/2021/firearm_Page_1.png)

Asians also have extremely low rates of violence in Western societies, OAK!

Glad to see you are catching on to the racial disparities in violent crime.  8)

PS - now compare Japanese people to Japanese Americans!
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 07:36:03 PM
Math is racist.

Yep!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/08/racism-our-curriculums-isnt-limited-history-its-math-too/
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 07:37:13 PM
OAK,

What cities have the top three highest murder rates per-capita in the USA?

?
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 08:20:33 PM
Asians also have extremely low rates of violence in Western societies, OAK!

Glad to see you are catching on to the racial disparities in violent crime.  8)

PS - now compare Japanese people to Japanese Americans!

You’re pivoting.

How do racial disparities provide evidence AGAINST gun control?

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2023, 08:44:23 PM
Weird.

I thought guns were supposed to keep children SAFE.

🙄

I see you’re back from another ass beating. Funny how that happened just 113mi from the NRA convention where most we’re carrying including myself and nothing happened 🤔

Here’s some children…

https://twitter.com/alphafox78/status/1648140195760316416?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2023, 08:49:25 PM
https://heyjackass.com/
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 17, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
Exactly - people tend to self-segregate, even in areas that are demographically diverse. That's why so many people manage to escape this stuff - they just avoid it by way of voluntary self-segregation.


New York isn’t some sprawling city, everything exists in a 10-15 mile radius, everyone takes the same transport, everyone goes to the same 2/3 parks, everyone goes to the same beaches. It’s impossible to segregate
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Dave D on April 17, 2023, 08:55:24 PM
“They keep us safe because historically, millions of people have been murdered in countries where only the government has guns. If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.”

Never said the government should confiscate ALL guns. Just would like to see the US have SOME type of gun control measures like other developed countries.


Also.

If the government started KILLING PEOPLE do you really believe people would vote for them in the next election?

🙄

The government does kill people :/

George Floyd was killed by non elected police.

The US government was sending troops to Ukraine to kill Russians.

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: AbrahamG on April 17, 2023, 09:07:16 PM
The government does kill people :/

George Floyd was killed by non elected police.

The US government was sending troops to Ukraine to kill Russians.

So socialism actually killed George Floyd.  Fuck.  I'm re-evaluating my entire belief system. 
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2023, 09:10:10 PM
Anyone who uses this country to compare to others show’s complete and utter ignorance aside from it being irrelevant
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 09:46:58 PM
The government does kill people :/

George Floyd was killed by non elected police.

The US government was sending troops to Ukraine to kill Russians.

You are correct.

But do you believe this?

“If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.”

Keep in mind this was NEVER my “plan”.

🙄
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 17, 2023, 09:49:17 PM
Justice served!

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:18:06 PM
Justice served!

Are you posting that to suggest White people shoot Black people more than the reverse?  ::)

As residue said, most murders have the same race for perpetrator and victim. But where interracial violence exists, Blacks kill Whites more than the reverse.

Anyway, OAK - did you read this part?:

"An 85-year-old white man who shot a Black teen at his front door in Kansas City, Mo., last week has been charged with armed assault, and the Clay County prosecutor said Monday there was a racial component to the case."

An 85-YEAR-OLD MAN?!

WTF would you expect a man that old to do when a TOTAL STRANGER enters his property?!

OAK - I would do that NOW!!! And for a Black OR White stranger on my property.

Or Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc.

Let alone at age 85!

Do you not grasp that elderly people are weaker than young people, OAK?

Wow, you really are ageist!
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:19:28 PM

New York isn’t some sprawling city, everything exists in a 10-15 mile radius, everyone takes the same transport, everyone goes to the same 2/3 parks, everyone goes to the same beaches. It’s impossible to segregate

Well...NYC's violent crime rate would go down by 97% if it was just White.

So I think you are being disingenuous. No one hates Blacks here - we're just pointing out crime statistics.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 17, 2023, 10:20:09 PM
You are correct.

But do you believe this?

“If your plan of confiscating all guns from citizens and only allowing the government to have guns ever got implemented, the government would just start seizing all our property and killing anyone who tried to resist them.”

Keep in mind this was NEVER my “plan”.

🙄

Yes, you want this.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 18, 2023, 03:08:56 AM

New York isn’t some sprawling city, everything exists in a 10-15 mile radius, everyone takes the same transport, everyone goes to the same 2/3 parks, everyone goes to the same beaches. It’s impossible to segregate

Oh Brother. It’s about where you live. Most Park Avenue buildings on the Upper Eastside have zero black and Hispanic residents. Go up to Harlem and there are buildings with no white people.


It’s the same in the schools. Like most transplants, know nothing about the city in which you live.


School segregation is still NYC’s problem to fix

By Nyah Berg and Matt Gonzales
New York Daily News
Nov 16, 2022 at 5:00 am



https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-segregation-nyc-schools-20221116-7aouqy6wgzeqbgu5p7mq33f6wa-story.html
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 18, 2023, 05:52:51 AM
Well...NYC's violent crime rate would go down by 97% if I was just White.

So I think you are being disingenuous. No one hates Blacks here - we're just pointing out crime statistics.


Poor people would still exist, the disenfranchised and mentally unwell would still exist.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 18, 2023, 05:54:06 AM
Oh Brother. It’s about where you live. Most Park Avenue buildings on the Upper Eastside have zero black and Hispanic residents. Go up to Harlem and there are buildings with no white people.


It’s the same in the schools. Like most transplants, know nothing about the city in which you live.


School segregation is still NYC’s problem to fix

By Nyah Berg and Matt Gonzales
New York Daily News
Nov 16, 2022 at 5:00 am



https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-segregation-nyc-schools-20221116-7aouqy6wgzeqbgu5p7mq33f6wa-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-segregation-nyc-schools-20221116-7aouqy6wgzeqbgu5p7mq33f6wa-story.html)
ok and? i guess most people never leave their homes so they never mix?
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 18, 2023, 06:39:01 AM
Are you posting that to suggest White people shoot Black people more than the reverse?  ::)

As residue said, most murders have the same race for perpetrator and victim. But where interracial violence exists, Blacks kill Whites more than the reverse.

Anyway, OAK - did you read this part?:

"An 85-year-old white man who shot a Black teen at his front door in Kansas City, Mo., last week has been charged with armed assault, and the Clay County prosecutor said Monday there was a racial component to the case."

An 85-YEAR-OLD MAN?!

WTF would you expect a man that old to do when a TOTAL STRANGER enters his property?!

OAK - I would do that NOW!!! And for a Black OR White stranger on my property.

Or Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc.

Let alone at age 85!

Do you not grasp that elderly people are weaker than young people, OAK?

Wow, you really are ageist!

Nobody entered his property.

He opened his door and shot him point blank in the head. He then continued to shoot him as he ran away.

But “guns keep us ALL safe”.

🙄
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Gym Rat on April 18, 2023, 07:46:08 AM
Turdeau dresses in blackface, takes BBC into his balloon-knot, while wearing a Hitler mustache while ass-fukking a phaggy libtard.
Then whines about guns...
HTH
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: residue on April 18, 2023, 08:15:56 AM
Nobody entered his property.

He opened his door and shot him point blank in the head. He then continued to shoot him as he ran away.

But “guns keep us ALL safe”.

🙄
Woman, 20, fatally shot by upstate NY homeowner after pulling into wrong driveway: sheriff
https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/kaylin-gillis-shot-and-killed-by-upstate-ny-homeowner-sheriff/ (https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/kaylin-gillis-shot-and-killed-by-upstate-ny-homeowner-sheriff/)

you'd think having the gun wouldn't make him afraid of his own shadow but here we are
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: OAK on April 18, 2023, 08:19:48 AM
Turdeau dresses in blackface, takes BBC into his balloon-knot, while wearing a Hitler mustache while ass-fukking a phaggy libtard.
Then whines about guns...
HTH

…..yet still BETTER than Trump.

😎
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 18, 2023, 09:22:49 AM
Woman, 20, fatally shot by upstate NY homeowner after pulling into wrong driveway: sheriff
https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/kaylin-gillis-shot-and-killed-by-upstate-ny-homeowner-sheriff/ (https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/kaylin-gillis-shot-and-killed-by-upstate-ny-homeowner-sheriff/)


you'd think having the gun wouldn't make him afraid of his own shadow but here we are



Shit sucks. A guy I knew on the periphery, was at a buddy’s house in DC a few years back for a house warming. He went across the street to a neighbors house to booze and came back to my buddies but went to his neighbors instead and beat on the door. I guess he thought they were fucking around by locking him out, and he was hammered. Anyway, homeowner shot and killed him. Crazy, dudes wife and kids woke up the next morning to cops and a body covered with a sheet in the middle of the street and it was her husband.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 18, 2023, 09:48:55 AM
…..yet still BETTER than Trump.

😎

This is the face of the entire Democratic Party

Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Gym Rat on April 18, 2023, 10:28:13 AM
Fucking daughter-raping, retard, pervert, scum.
Move him to FLA and execute the kvnt...
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 18, 2023, 10:49:50 PM

Poor people would still exist, the disenfranchised and mentally unwell would still exist.

I agree with you, but I think you think anyone who notices racial violent crime disparities is doing so from a position of hate.

To me, it was never that - I just resent White people being blamed for things that are almost all explained due to disparities in behaviour. Here in Canada, Indigenous people are given full free healthcare including masses of health services not available to Whites, and that are PAID FOR by Whites, and yet there are constant articles blaming their poor average health outcomes on White people.

Not only is it NOT White racism causing that - White people trip over themselves to try to fix it, at great economic expense, and STILL get blamed.

Then when I looked at the data on these things, I was astounded that no one ever mentioned any of this, and I really started to resent the "Blame Whitey" narrative, so I started raising awareness about racial disparities in things which explain the outcome without blaming it all on White people.

Look at Asians - they have better average outcomes than White people in almost everything...how does that fit in with the whole narrative that the West is a White Supremacist society?

Why do non-Whites STREAM into every White country they can, literally by the millions each year, moving away from the places controlled by members of their own race, if White people are so rotten?

Anyway, I get that you don't want Black people unfairly judged for anything related to them, even if it's true - but it's simply a fact that they are 13% of the USA's population, yet commit 52% of all murders, and that remains the BIGGEST individual factor that makes the USA's murder rate so much higher than that of Canada's, with our 2% population.

It just "is".

I have nothing against Black people. As I said, I'm not saying this from a position of hate.
Title: Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
Post by: Matt on April 18, 2023, 10:54:43 PM
ok and? i guess most people never leave their homes so they never mix?

In general, people are friends primarily with people of the same racial group.

I once read that something like 85% of churches are at least 95% one race.

It's just human nature.

Out of your top 25 closest friends, would you say those 25 represent the diversity the exact racial demographic profile of the USA?

16 White people.
3 Black people.
3 Hispanics.
1-2 Asians.
1-2 Arabs.

?

Technically 3.25 Blacks, as well as Hispanics.

You better hope you're friends with a Black midget if what you are saying is true.