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Title: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 07, 2023, 04:07:22 PM
Has anyone given these a try yet the research seems insufficient at best

https://selfhacked.com/blog/follistatin/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35300091/
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 07, 2023, 04:15:07 PM
They aren't bio-identical so why are you asking?

Shouldn't you try and get your blown out asshole repaired before jumping on more nonsense?

By they way.....FOAD
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 07, 2023, 04:16:12 PM
Follistatin is a name I haven’t heard in about ten years
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 07, 2023, 04:26:17 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: 38 returns on May 07, 2023, 04:34:37 PM
brian

I hope you die
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Dave D on May 07, 2023, 04:38:47 PM
brian

I hope you die

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

38 is straight to the point.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2023, 05:01:43 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

FUCK OFF, QUITTER.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: The Scott on May 07, 2023, 05:06:44 PM
FUCK OFF, QUITTER.

I second this.^
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 07, 2023, 05:10:37 PM
FUCK OFF, QUITTER.

You and Scott both quit on life 2 decades ago you can't post a current pic because you are a slob who doesn't lift and Scott is a pathetic cripple. I still get up I still go to the gym I still train I am always in shape year round. You can't post a current pic because you gave up decades ago I know it you know it we all know it. Hater
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: The Scott on May 07, 2023, 05:11:59 PM
bhanky is a dildo.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 07, 2023, 05:12:30 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

So much for eating clean.

So are these peptides doctor prescribed?

Would love to hear how you lie about this
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2023, 05:15:37 PM
You and Scott both quit on life 2 decades ago you can't post a current pic because you are a slob who doesn't lift and Scott is a pathetic cripple. I still get up I still go to the gym I still train I am always in shape year round. You can't post a current pic because you gave up decades ago I know it you know it we all know it. Hater

You're not in shape.
You're a lying drug addict who would weigh 160 pounds if you came off for 6 months.
You're limp wristed old man died of shame.

And you're broke. Now go answer the phone, those telemarketer calls don't answer themselves....quitter bitch.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Spike on May 07, 2023, 05:16:25 PM
more like itching your butthole


you prob have those prep h wipes on every toilet in your big ass house
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 07, 2023, 05:17:46 PM
It was a big scam back when it first came out.  Did nothing along the lines of what was promised.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: The Scott on May 07, 2023, 05:20:51 PM
bhanky is a midget with  a yo-yo and a dildo up his own butthole.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 07, 2023, 05:23:12 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

Whats itching?  Your blown out asshole?

Stiff eating like an asshole as well.   You never learn.....quitter.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: beakdoctor on May 07, 2023, 05:24:00 PM
Good lord. What is this bufoon talking about now?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2023, 05:24:23 PM
Remember now....this was the guy claiming he was taking anavar for his anemia.

What's worse, being a quitter, an abject failure, or a little bitch cuck who raises someone else's feral kids?

Or all three combined in a bald, 5'-9" and 165 lb swimmer physique?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Lartinos on May 07, 2023, 06:10:55 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

Is the coffee black or with milk and sugar?
How many sugars?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: SF1900 on May 07, 2023, 06:23:46 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

That’s the spirit BHANKS. You are truly sticking to eating more healthy! Cheeseburger, hush puppies, Gatorade, coke and cookies!
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 07, 2023, 06:24:18 PM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

I’m guessing the Crohn’s disease is in remission, bullshit from bullshit Brian
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 07, 2023, 06:39:37 PM
It was a big scam back when it first came out.  Did nothing along the lines of what was promised.

Yeah I kind of figured but people are still paying top dollar for it the new thing is this Mots-c stuff personally I am listening to Phil Heath talking about how he likes IGF vs hgh now and remembering my old research and I never liked the GHRP stuff so I came to the conclusion Pegulated MGF is the way to go. Probably fake and does nothing but want to try something novel and peptides are more appealing than gear at this point. So the plan is to start back on my TRT test moderate dosage and add the Peg MGF maybe 2-4mg a week. The Mots-c stuff does look interesting though. Actually starting to feel pretty motivated which is weird as was not even thinking about training 2 days ago but feeling better and recharged. It is nice to see my weight finally going up despite being on nothing sitting 209lbs and honestly pretty lean. Should be ready to go soon and the weather is getting nice pool is opening up this week life is good
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2023, 06:40:25 PM
What are the opening odds on the prop bets?

Bhanks pulls out from contest -600
Bhanks throws up and has stomach issues prior to the show and this will be his excuse  for poor placement - 2100
Bhanks has legal trouble and unable to attend the show +100
Bhanks is too weak and depleted to travel to the show -1700

Getbig knew drug addict Brian Wood Hankins was a quitter right from day one.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 07, 2023, 06:48:52 PM
Getbig knew drug addict Brian Wood Hankins was a quitter right from day one.

I literally laid out the forward plan one post above I am more motivated than ever
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 07, 2023, 06:49:40 PM
I literally laid out the forward plan one post above I am more motivated than ever

I’m surprised you don’t have diverticulitis
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: wazhazbin on May 07, 2023, 06:52:37 PM
I’m surprised you don’t have diverticulitis

he is googling and manifesting it right now
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: The Scott on May 07, 2023, 06:57:44 PM
I’m guessing the Crohn’s disease is in remission, bullshit from bullshit Brian

Sheeeeit!  Common sense is beyond remission in bhanky.  Fuck bhanky to Hades.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 07, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
I literally laid out the forward plan one post above I am more motivated than ever

FUCK OFF, QUITTER.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Lartinos on May 07, 2023, 07:21:06 PM
I’ll take that you put milk and 2 sugars in your coffee.

These peptides are a desperate attempt to put a band aid on 20 years of abusing drugs and eating a garbage diet.

These peptides won’t do Jack shit for you as the only way for you to make a recovery would be a massive psychological overhaul that focuses on accountability.

In other words you are a dead man walking..
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 04:19:37 AM
I’ll take that you put milk and 2 sugars in your coffee.

These peptides are a desperate attempt to put a band aid on 20 years of abusing drugs and eating a garbage diet.

These peptides won’t do Jack shit for you as the only way for you to make a recovery would be a massive psychological overhaul that focuses on accountability.

In other words you are a dead man walking..

The peptide is a simple placebo to help get me motivated and excited to train again never underestimate the power of the mind. I actually eat a very healthy diet this board knows nothing about nutrition it’s comical reminds me of the skinny vegan guys eating banana chips and raisins and wondering why the guys eating fried chicken and ice cream are bigger and stronger
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 04:26:12 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905433/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20790-0
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: tatoo on May 08, 2023, 05:20:32 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905433/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20790-0

youre finally gonna grow hankins!!! load up brother
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2023, 05:30:48 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905433/

However, the subsequent biosafety problem has always been the focus of attention. How to reduce or eliminate the toxicity of genetically engineered bacteria to the body is a key scientific problem to be solved urgently.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-20790-0

In total, 10 sedentary (<4 h aerobic exercise/week) healthy young males (24.5 ± 3.7 years old and BMI 24.1 ± 2.1) were recruited to take part in a two-visit exercise trial.

Fucking retard didn't understand half of what was written in either of those things you cited.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 05:38:00 AM
Fucking retard didn't understand half of what was written in either of those things you cited.

I understood more than enough to see the benefits it didn’t just make old mice faster stronger with increased endurance lower obesity and improved glucose loading function it also made them live longer



Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: 38 returns on May 08, 2023, 05:42:14 AM
I for one am hoping it kills you quicker Brian. You should do the world a favour.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2023, 05:42:30 AM
I understood more than enough to see the benefits it didn’t just make old mice faster stronger with increased endurance lower obesity and improved glucose loading function it also made them live longer



Yeah, mice   ::)

Nice group of 10 fucking subjects.....you're always looking for the shortcut you weak willed quitter.

Peptides, diuretics, lipogenic agents, test, etc....yeah, right you know more about "nutrition and training"...
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 05:49:47 AM
Yeah, mice   ::)

Nice group of 10 fucking subjects.....you're always looking for the shortcut you weak willed quitter.

Peptides, diuretics, lipogenic agents, test, etc....yeah, right you know more about "nutrition and training"...

Again you take melatonin yes? You take a preworkout stimulant yes? You probably take protein powders as well yes? But me taking an amino acid your body already naturally produces but declines with age a partial protein for longevity aka actual life extension is a shortcut? Why don’t you do some research there is a lot more on it than one study. If taking a “shortcut” extends my actual lifespan I am all for it 
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Hulkotron on May 08, 2023, 05:57:22 AM
Yes I have actually already decided and ordered a different bio identical amino acid but I thought these were both interesting. People are still buying them but it has been a decade and still no firm answer to effectiveness.

1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

Itching to lift

He’s got to just be trolling us at this point.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 06:02:23 AM
He’s got to just be trolling us at this point.

I also had a juice smoothy yesterday and I got up at 11pm and made 4 enchiladas so yeah appetitie is coming back had half a pound of meat 3 biscuits a coffee an OJ and a banana already today
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Never1AShow on May 08, 2023, 06:07:21 AM
He’s got to just be trolling us at this point.

It's both trolling and brickheaded stupidity.  He's been entirely discredited, all mouth
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: tatoo on May 08, 2023, 06:09:01 AM
It's both trolling and brickheaded stupidity.  He's been entirely discredited, all mouth

100% wannabe.. funny af
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2023, 06:18:30 AM
Again you take melatonin yes? You take a preworkout stimulant yes? You probably take protein powders as well yes? But me taking an amino acid your body already naturally produces but declines with age a partial protein for longevity aka actual life extension is a shortcut? Why don’t you do some research there is a lot more on it than one study. If taking a “shortcut” extends my actual lifespan I am all for it

No on melatonin....and no one pre-workouts.  Why the fuck would I take a pre-workout drink if my workout will already be something that elevates my heartrate.

Yeah, I take a protein powder....you are comparing that to a peptide?  I don't see any syringes laying around for my protein powder.  You aren't extending your life with all the shit (figuratively and literally) you take.  I read more of this shit than you do Brian...and understand every little thing about it.  You look at it and have the same fucking brain-washed mentality of those people who thought cell-tech was 1,483% better than regular creatine.

You are a never-was, never-will-be, short-cut taking quitter.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: IroNat on May 08, 2023, 06:39:27 AM
It's both trolling and brickheaded stupidity.  He's been entirely discredited, all mouth

All hat and no cattle.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 08, 2023, 07:38:23 AM
Again you take melatonin yes? You take a preworkout stimulant yes? You probably take protein powders as well yes? But me taking an amino acid your body already naturally produces but declines with age a partial protein for longevity aka actual life extension is a shortcut? Why don’t you do some research there is a lot more on it than one study. If taking a “shortcut” extends my actual lifespan I am all for it

You want to extend your life. Yet you are abusing and have been abusing anabolic steroids for two decades, and refused to come off the drugs.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: 38 returns on May 08, 2023, 07:50:14 AM
the funniest thing about this moron is his endless boasts about 2 days from stage shape he was always making. And yet he cant finish a show. I look forward to seeing him do himself in because he cant cope with being bald or being off drugs.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Taffin on May 08, 2023, 08:07:40 AM
1 coffee
4 Sausage links and half bag of breakfast potatoes and 3 pieces of bacon
4 girl scout cookies
Cheeseburger
Fried Flounder with fries hushpuppies
Orange Sunkist
1/2 pound Peeled shrimp and half pound swordfish
Half a Gallon of Gatorade
8 oz coke

I also had a juice smoothy yesterday and I got up at 11pm and made 4 enchiladas so yeah appetitie is coming back had half a pound of meat 3 biscuits a coffee an OJ and a banana already today

No wonder you ended up with an impacted colon and they had to cut the concrete turd out of you... ;D
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 08:12:08 AM
No wonder you ended up with an impacted colon and they had to cut the concrete turd out of you... ;D

I never had an impacted colon again you are just making up lies about me
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Taffin on May 08, 2023, 08:23:39 AM
I never had an impacted colon again you are just making up lies about me

Apologies, could have sworn you said you needed surgery to be able to make a bowel movement after the show

(PS - congrats on 16 thousand posts!!! FFS!!)
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 08, 2023, 08:24:14 AM
I never had an impacted colon again you are just making up lies about me

so what was the cause of the bleeding anus?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: 38 returns on May 08, 2023, 08:27:51 AM
lying brian getting caught out again


here is what we know
Brian did a show
Brian didnt like the fact he would finish 3rd out of 3
Brian went home

The illness bullshit is just that.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: IroNat on May 08, 2023, 08:33:43 AM
No wonder you ended up with an impacted colon and they had to cut the concrete turd out of you... ;D

Taffy funny!
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: falco on May 08, 2023, 08:53:13 AM
If you happen to try GHK-CU tell me please about possible hair regrowth.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 09:50:57 AM
lying brian getting caught out again


here is what we know
Brian did a show
Brian didnt like the fact he would finish 3rd out of 3
Brian went home

The illness bullshit is just that.

I am still passing blood do you want pics?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 09:52:08 AM
If you happen to try GHK-CU tell me please about possible hair regrowth.

Yeah read a lot about that copper stuff as well one of the newer ones they are all selling now the collagen aspect makes me think it could help with joint pain and arthritis but hard to say on stuff like that

They do say it helps the hair it def helps the skin probably not much in the way of anabolism but skin and hair are important as is joint health  which it supposedly can also help that’s my point we need to look past the basics and think broader

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6073405/
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Raymondo on May 08, 2023, 10:03:49 AM
Yeah read a lot about that copper stuff as well one of the newer ones they are all selling now the collagen aspect makes me think it could help with joint pain and arthritis but hard to say on stuff like that

They do say it helps the hair it def helps the skin probably not much in the way of anabolism but skin and hair are important as is joint health  which it supposedly can also help that’s my point we need to look past the basics and think broader

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6073405/

Fuck off quitter.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 08, 2023, 10:51:07 AM
Yeah I kind of figured but people are still paying top dollar for it the new thing is this Mots-c stuff personally I am listening to Phil Heath talking about how he likes IGF vs hgh now and remembering my old research and I never liked the GHRP stuff so I came to the conclusion Pegulated MGF is the way to go. Probably fake and does nothing but want to try something novel and peptides are more appealing than gear at this point. So the plan is to start back on my TRT test moderate dosage and add the Peg MGF maybe 2-4mg a week. The Mots-c stuff does look interesting though. Actually starting to feel pretty motivated which is weird as was not even thinking about training 2 days ago but feeling better and recharged. It is nice to see my weight finally going up despite being on nothing sitting 209lbs and honestly pretty lean. Should be ready to go soon and the weather is getting nice pool is opening up this week life is good

The two biggest peptide companies that ever were, were only half hour north of here.  I met the guys many times and they always said that the backlash regarding follistatin was awful.  They issued so many refunds when it first came out and was on the market.  Finally they had to tell people order at your own risk.  The vials contained what they said it contained but the peptide didn't necessarily do what everyone believed it would.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Grape Ape on May 08, 2023, 11:29:26 AM
Changing your diet, training, and limiting your hormone usage to lower doses will have a more positive impact on your overall health than any peptide or other horseshit.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 12:40:24 PM
Changing your diet, training, and limiting your hormone usage to lower doses will have a more positive impact on your overall health than any peptide or other horseshit.

I have taken 200mg of test in the last month but please tell me how I need to lower and limit my hormone usage
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: tatoo on May 08, 2023, 12:48:29 PM
I have taken 200mg of test in the last month but please tell me how I need to lower and limit my hormone usage

liar
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 08, 2023, 01:21:06 PM
I have taken 200mg of test in the last month but please tell me how I need to lower and limit my hormone usage

You're a self admitted 20+ year user of them....plus all the other non prescribed shit you inject....

Fuck off with you quitter
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 08, 2023, 01:43:02 PM
Again you take melatonin yes? You take a preworkout stimulant yes? You probably take protein powders as well yes? But me taking an amino acid your body already naturally produces but declines with age a partial protein for longevity aka actual life extension is a shortcut? Why don’t you do some research there is a lot more on it than one study. If taking a “shortcut” extends my actual lifespan I am all for it

FUCK OFF, QUITTER.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Grape Ape on May 08, 2023, 01:46:11 PM
I have taken 200mg of test in the last month but please tell me how I need to lower and limit my hormone usage

You said 300mg per week before the show.

And you know you're going to hop back on, so why use an example of a month where you're recovering from a litany of shit (literally)?

And you have listed the myriad of issues you have had, for this contest, and the last few.

So yes, my statement still stands, and I did notice you ignored the diet/training part, and just focused on the semantics of you dosage in the last month.  ;)

Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 08, 2023, 01:47:18 PM
I have taken 200mg of test in the last month but please tell me how I need to lower and limit my hormone usage

FUCK OFF, LIAR.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 01:49:08 PM
You said 300mg per week before the show.

And you know you're going to hop back on, so why use an example of a month where you're recovering from a litany of shit (literally)?

And you have listed the myriad of issues you have had, for this contest, and the last few.

So yes, my statement still stands, and I did notice you ignored the diet/training part, and just focused on the semantics of you dosage in the last month.  ;)

Your statement makes no sense no medical issues I have had have anything to do with TRT

I also trained today first day back so took it easy 5 sets of 8 ez curl wide grip
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Grape Ape on May 08, 2023, 01:52:27 PM
Your statement makes no sense no medical issues I have had have anything to do with TRT

I also trained today first day back so took it easy 5 sets of 8 ez curl wide grip

If you are talking health and longevity, being on gear from age 20-47, then continuing at that dosage isn't healthy in the long run.

Also, you eat like shit, but you think it's not true because you are able to keep the body fat low.

But hey, like I've said, I don't really care.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 08, 2023, 01:56:11 PM
If you are talking health and longevity, being on gear from age 20-47, then continuing at that dosage isn't healthy in the long run.

Also, you eat like shit, but you think it's not true because you are able to keep the body fat low.

But hey, like I've said, I don't really care.

Again I am going to disagree strongly my blood pressure is ideal my cholesterol is low my biological age when I look at myself and other 45 year olds is much better than average
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 08, 2023, 01:56:31 PM
Your statement makes no sense no medical issues I have had have anything to do with TRT

I also trained today first day back so took it easy 5 sets of 8 ez curl wide grip

So now it changes from HRT to TRT.

FUCK OFF, YOU WEAK LITTLE LYING BITCH.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Raymondo on May 08, 2023, 02:11:26 PM
I love how this shameless retard is trying to crawl back into Getbig acting like nothing happened.

Like he didn't talk shit for a month boasting he was gonna win the contest but ran away crying the moment he caught sight of the other competitors!

Fucking man-baby
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: joswift on May 08, 2023, 02:15:56 PM
I love how this shameless retard is trying to crawl back into Getbig acting like nothing happened.

Like he didn't talk shit for a month boasting he was gonna win the contest but ran away crying the moment he caught sight of the other competitors!

Fucking man-baby
and he will do it as long as you keep posting

In fact, Im off
I said I was going to leave until after my show but put him on ignore instead
That doesnt work because people keep quoting him

See you on the 5th June after I have done my two shows,
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Raymondo on May 08, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
and he will do it as long as you keep posting

In fact, Im off
I said I was going to leave until after my show but put him on ignore instead
That doesnt work because people keep quoting him

See you on the 5th June after I have done my two shows,

I can't help it, honest. Guy is such an easy target.

There is something sadomasochistic in this whole back-and-forth.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: joswift on May 08, 2023, 02:18:27 PM
I can't help it, honest. Guy is such an easy target.

There is something sadomasochistic in this whole back-and-forth.

and you think thats by accident?
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Raymondo on May 08, 2023, 02:19:12 PM
and he will do it as long as you keep posting

In fact, Im off
I said I was going to leave until after my show but put him on ignore instead
That doesnt work because people keep quoting him

See you on the 5th June after I have done my two shows,

Anyway good luck in your shows
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: joswift on May 08, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Anyway good luck in your shows
ta pal.. ;)
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Grape Ape on May 08, 2023, 02:29:07 PM
Again I am going to disagree strongly my blood pressure is ideal my cholesterol is low my biological age when I look at myself and other 45 year olds is much better than average

You have some fucked up issues that are putting strain on your body.

Some of them could be avoided with better food, and not doing BB contests.

But hey, peptide away.

Maybe you can figure it out next show.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 09, 2023, 10:49:53 AM
Yeah I kind of figured but people are still paying top dollar for it the new thing is this Mots-c stuff personally I am listening to Phil Heath talking about how he likes IGF vs hgh now and remembering my old research and I never liked the GHRP stuff so I came to the conclusion Pegulated MGF is the way to go. Probably fake and does nothing but want to try something novel and peptides are more appealing than gear at this point. So the plan is to start back on my TRT test moderate dosage and add the Peg MGF maybe 2-4mg a week. The Mots-c stuff does look interesting though. Actually starting to feel pretty motivated which is weird as was not even thinking about training 2 days ago but feeling better and recharged. It is nice to see my weight finally going up despite being on nothing sitting 209lbs and honestly pretty lean. Should be ready to go soon and the weather is getting nice pool is opening up this week life is good


The two biggest peptide companies that ever were, were only half hour north of here.  I met the guys many times and they always said that the backlash regarding follistatin was awful.  They issued so many refunds when it first came out and was on the market.  Finally they had to tell people order at your own risk.  The vials contained what they said it contained but the peptide didn't necessarily do what everyone believed it would.

Many years ago I remember Phil Hernon was involved in selling the follistatin, praising it to the high heavens. Of course it did nothing, excepting one or two that thought they saw something. I'm pretty sure they finally tested the product and it was bunk.

bhank, come on now, you don't seriously believe anything Phil says publicly or do you. He pushes some peptides now and there is always a link to the place selling it. I am positive Phil has used/tried IGFLR3 but this latest balonie pure marketing, nothing else.

Some of the peptides are interesting and have some uses but none, except gh and insulin, are absolutely essential for even the highest level competition. IGF is like a super insulin, if you are lean it can give nice vascularity and "fullness" but if it builds muscle it's minute. I would do it peak week maybe.

You gave up on the insulin after a week or something. WTF you can't decide shit after such a short trial. What I would recommend, and I'm sure you will not do it, is to get on Metformin, even if do no other drugs whatsoever. If not Metformin then berberine which might work just as well. Both of these drugs can make you shit so I'm sure you don't have the patience to get acclimated. For the past several years I've thought insulin sensitivity is probably the most important parameter to improve. For a bb, for anyone getting up in age. I would also do old school supps like chromium picolinate (I'm trying 1000mcg now, the tabs are usually 200mcg. Swanson has a megadosed tab with 2000mcg) and Lipoic acid (n-r-ala) magnesium (whatever type has high bioavailability and doesn't give you diarrhea), Cardarine if you're not afraid of cancer, and whatever else could be important for insulin action.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 09, 2023, 03:59:16 PM

Many years ago I remember Phil Hernon was involved in selling the follistatin, praising it to the high heavens. Of course it did nothing, excepting one or two that thought they saw something. I'm pretty sure they finally tested the product and it was bunk.

bhank, come on now, you don't seriously believe anything Phil says publicly or do you. He pushes some peptides now and there is always a link to the place selling it. I am positive Phil has used/tried IGFLR3 but this latest balonie pure marketing, nothing else.

Some of the peptides are interesting and have some uses but none, except gh and insulin, are absolutely essential for even the highest level competition. IGF is like a super insulin, if you are lean it can give nice vascularity and "fullness" but if it builds muscle it's minute. I would do it peak week maybe.

You gave up on the insulin after a week or something. WTF you can't decide shit after such a short trial. What I would recommend, and I'm sure you will not do it, is to get on Metformin, even if do no other drugs whatsoever. If not Metformin then berberine which might work just as well. Both of these drugs can make you shit so I'm sure you don't have the patience to get acclimated. For the past several years I've thought insulin sensitivity is probably the most important parameter to improve. For a bb, for anyone getting up in age. I would also do old school supps like chromium picolinate (I'm trying 1000mcg now, the tabs are usually 200mcg. Swanson has a megadosed tab with 2000mcg) and Lipoic acid (n-r-ala) magnesium (whatever type has high bioavailability and doesn't give you diarrhea), Cardarine if you're not afraid of cancer, and whatever else could be important for insulin action.

Peg MGF is basically IGF but targets just your muscle and has been pegulated to stay in the blood longer. Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable I believe Peg MGF does have the science behind it but I also just ordered a months worth so will see. I am lean enough I can tell the difference when I run HGH I should be able to tell if the MGF is working. Its not just about hypertrophy but also healing possible nerve damage it is supposed to be good for the heart as well. 

I am more concerned about healing my chest tear and shoulder injuries than adding absolute mass

https://www.genemedics.com/pegylated-mechano-growth-factor

Also there have been a lot of heart related issues in older bodybuilders

Prevents Heart Disease
Studies show that PEG-MGF can help protect against cardiovascular disease:

In sheeps, PEG-MGF protected the heart muscle from ischemia (reduced blood supply) and improved heart function after a heart attack. [16]
A study reported that PEG-MGF can help lower the risk of heart disease by preventing programmed cell death of heart muscle cells. [17]
PEG-MGF has also been shown to regulate the migration and proliferation of stem cells in the heart. [18]
A study found that PEG-MGF plays an integral role in the growth and formation of human heart tissues. [19]
In rats, localized delivery of PEG-MGF improved cardiac function following heart attack. [20]
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: AbrahamG on May 09, 2023, 04:40:38 PM
so what was the cause of the bleeding anus?

Coop.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: AbrahamG on May 09, 2023, 04:42:45 PM

Many years ago I remember Phil Hernon was involved in selling the follistatin, praising it to the high heavens. Of course it did nothing, excepting one or two that thought they saw something. I'm pretty sure they finally tested the product and it was bunk.

bhank, come on now, you don't seriously believe anything Phil says publicly or do you. He pushes some peptides now and there is always a link to the place selling it. I am positive Phil has used/tried IGFLR3 but this latest balonie pure marketing, nothing else.

Some of the peptides are interesting and have some uses but none, except gh and insulin, are absolutely essential for even the highest level competition. IGF is like a super insulin, if you are lean it can give nice vascularity and "fullness" but if it builds muscle it's minute. I would do it peak week maybe.

You gave up on the insulin after a week or something. WTF you can't decide shit after such a short trial. What I would recommend, and I'm sure you will not do it, is to get on Metformin, even if do no other drugs whatsoever. If not Metformin then berberine which might work just as well. Both of these drugs can make you shit so I'm sure you don't have the patience to get acclimated. For the past several years I've thought insulin sensitivity is probably the most important parameter to improve. For a bb, for anyone getting up in age. I would also do old school supps like chromium picolinate (I'm trying 1000mcg now, the tabs are usually 200mcg. Swanson has a megadosed tab with 2000mcg) and Lipoic acid (n-r-ala) magnesium (whatever type has high bioavailability and doesn't give you diarrhea), Cardarine if you're not afraid of cancer, and whatever else could be important for insulin action.

Well, he's not selling it any more.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 09, 2023, 05:30:18 PM
Peg MGF is basically IGF but targets just your muscle and has been pegulated to stay in the blood longer. Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable I believe Peg MGF does have the science behind it but I also just ordered a months worth so will see. I am lean enough I can tell the difference when I run HGH I should be able to tell if the MGF is working. Its not just about hypertrophy but also healing possible nerve damage it is supposed to be good for the heart as well. 

I am more concerned about healing my chest tear and shoulder injuries than adding absolute mass

https://www.genemedics.com/pegylated-mechano-growth-factor

Also there have been a lot of heart related issues in older bodybuilders

Prevents Heart Disease
Studies show that PEG-MGF can help protect against cardiovascular disease:

In sheeps, PEG-MGF protected the heart muscle from ischemia (reduced blood supply) and improved heart function after a heart attack. [16]
A study reported that PEG-MGF can help lower the risk of heart disease by preventing programmed cell death of heart muscle cells. [17]
PEG-MGF has also been shown to regulate the migration and proliferation of stem cells in the heart. [18]
A study found that PEG-MGF plays an integral role in the growth and formation of human heart tissues. [19]
In rats, localized delivery of PEG-MGF improved cardiac function following heart attack. [20]

Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 09, 2023, 05:37:37 PM
Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.

Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am recovering now
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Krankenstein on May 09, 2023, 05:41:25 PM
Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am growing now

Put your arms down you over blown twat....you don't impress anyone.  Geezus you have less of a chest than some 8yo girl.

You look like shit...and I can only imagine what the room smells like.   Fuck off and die....your face is a perfect target to get punched......repeatedly.

Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: AbrahamG on May 09, 2023, 05:52:19 PM
Put your arms down you over blown twat....you don't impress anyone.  Geezus you have less of a chest than some 8yo girl.

You look like shit...and I can only imagine what the room smells like.   Fuck off and die....your face is a perfect target to get punched......repeatedly.

If I didn't know the backstory ie the copious amounts of drugs and absolutely horrific caliber of food that he ingests, I'd never say he looks like shit.  That being said, he is absolutely destroying his insides and continuously puts band aids ie new meds to temporarily make his bloodwork look as though he isn't killing himself. 

What I don't get is just how fucking stubborn he is.  He obviously does or takes something to stay very lean all while eating ridiculous amounts of calories and bad calories at that.  For the love of god, why not eat 5000 good calories a day for 8 weeks and see not only how he looks but how he feels too. 

As for his training.  What in the fuck is the point of squatting with already fucked knees?  What in the fuck is the point of bench pressing with a horribly torn pec and bicep? 

All this aside, I'm eagerly anticipating his run at his pro card at this years Masters Nationals.  Go Hankins!
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: webstar on May 09, 2023, 05:55:19 PM
Haters going to hate 1 workout in two weeks and still make you look like a slob. 211lbs with abs and arms looking good I will be better than ever soon enough

Cutting weight was a mistake but I am recovering now

Looking great Brian!

Arms improved
Nerve damage completely eradicated 
Lats are hanging low - highlighting the X frame!
Waist significantly downsized
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: ThisisOverload on May 09, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
Things never change.

hanky starts thread looking for advice/input.

Claims he already knows everything and argues with everyone about everything.

You guys do realize this is what he does to boost his fragile ego?

He is feeding off of this.

It's his way to fill the void in his life and confirm he is as smart as he thinks he is, at least to himself and his alter ego.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Walter Sobchak on May 09, 2023, 06:40:08 PM
Neither bicep is torn both biceps are good the right arm has a reattached tricep that is why it doesn't look as full the right bicep is 100% the left one has a better peak from the front side because its outside tendon is dettached on the backside. The right one actually looks better from the backside and has more strength potential as all of its tendons are intact but neither has ever been torn both have a decent peak. Both biceps are round and full and have a peak the difference is the tricep. There is no nerve damage the tricep was physically reattached higher further from the elbow so it doesnt look as full it is shorter. The biceps are the same size the tricep is the difference

You don't look like you have ever lifted a weight.

You melted your internal organs to look like a junkie.

Your old man took it in the ass, phaggot.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Lartinos on May 09, 2023, 07:18:49 PM
Bhank’s on more drugs than this guy.

https://twitter.com/clipsthatgohard/status/1655860165797724163?s=46&t=yxGBVkB2vBr9RyCGC4ni6g
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 09, 2023, 08:07:33 PM
Not on anything have been on my death bed but ready to start training from
here which isn’t too bad all things considering
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 10, 2023, 12:34:34 AM
Phil Heath not Hernon is the one who says he takes IGF 1 now instead of HGH when he was competing. I do believe HGH works and is noticeable Iattack.

You are not listening. What I was trying to convey with the Hernon story is that there's a huge chance you get a fake product. A certain chemist analyzing peptides in Europe says the IGF1LR3 is much worse quality than in the past. His theory was that the current product has been sitting in warehouses for years and is degraded. The feedback from users is that most IGF is shit but some is good, impossibke to know beforehand.

Show me where Phil Heath talks about IGF where he isn't selling it via proxy. He is sponsored by a fake "HRT clinic." No serious actor sells Chinese peptides they don't even analyze.

Peg MGF - almost everyone says they saw nothing from it. It's not a popular product at all.

What is popular is GH.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2023, 01:20:57 AM
You are not listening. What I was trying to convey with the Hernon story is that there's a huge chance you get a fake product. A certain chemist analyzing peptides in Europe says the IGF1LR3 is much worse quality than in the past. His theory was that the current product has been sitting in warehouses for years and is degraded. The feedback from users is that most IGF is shit but some is good, impossibke to know beforehand.

Show me where Phil Heath talks about IGF where he isn't selling it via proxy. He is sponsored by a fake "HRT clinic." No serious actor sells Chinese peptides they don't even analyze.

Peg MGF - almost everyone says they saw nothing from it. It's not a popular product at all.

What is popular is GH.

I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Griffith on May 10, 2023, 01:42:57 AM
I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/

That's usually used to help heal tendon and joint injuries.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2023, 02:20:15 AM
That's usually used to help heal tendon and joint injuries.

Yeah they say bpc 157 helps the gut as well my interest in peptides is more about healing old injuries than actual hypertrophy the heart benefits also peaked my interest.
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2023, 02:22:47 AM
Thought you couldn't afford HGH you lying cum bubble

You denied having nerve damage left and right you lying fuck stick

Maybe that stuff will heal your torn asshole....it can't fix your stupid though....

You're a fucking cockroach....plain and simple.

I denied right side nerve damage causing my arm to atrophjy that is not true. I do have lower back issues though also I can not currently afford HGH MGF is much cheaper
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: bhank on May 10, 2023, 02:44:06 AM
Looking great Brian!

Arms improved
Nerve damage completely eradicated 
Lats are hanging low - highlighting the X frame!
Waist significantly downsized

Tell me again how I am not single digit bodyfat tell me how I am 15% you fucking moron
Title: Re: Follistatin 344/315 Myostatin HMB GDF 8
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 10, 2023, 07:00:11 AM
I agree its probably uselesss

“Start out in the morning with BPC-157 and TB-500,” said Heath. “Before I train, IGF-1. I love that. Before I go to sleep, I take Tesamorelin Ipamorelin and I sleep like a baby. I wake up feeling a lot leaner.

“One cool thing about it is that I don’t have the carpal tunnel and the insulin sensitivity problems I once had doing human growth hormone. That’s a really good injectable stack that I do. Obviously, I’m doing 200 mg of testosterone cypionate.”

https://fitnessvolt.com/phil-heath-favorite-injectable-stack/

He read a script. Why would he not do a small dose of GH instead of a GHRP? There's no reason except he was compensated by the clinic. If he didn't link to a seller it might be believable.