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Title: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: OAK on May 09, 2023, 02:22:26 PM
Big surprise!

🙄
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Gym Rat on May 09, 2023, 02:25:35 PM
Makes him even more of a legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, the corrupt legal system found someone guilty. (While letting killers go free from prison because of a fake pandemic).  LOL
Golly gee Beav!   ::)


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Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: IroNat on May 09, 2023, 02:27:34 PM
She couldn't even remember when it happened.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: bhank on May 09, 2023, 02:30:19 PM
Big surprise!

🙄

Civil case he was found liable for slander not the same as guilty of a crime
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: OAK on May 09, 2023, 02:59:47 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Fortress on May 09, 2023, 03:17:00 PM
Trumpster gave the broad a bit of a thrill all those years ago.

The now-old-hag is just pissed that men no longer want anything to do with her rumpled, sagging ass.

Trumpster!
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: The Gov on May 09, 2023, 04:30:57 PM
Trumpster gave the broad a bit of a thrill all those years ago.

The now-old-hag is just pissed that men no longer want anything to do with her rumpled, sagging ass.

Trumpster!

The Oak still couldn't get her saggy ass...
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Moontrane on May 09, 2023, 06:39:12 PM
I think Trump is willing to pay $5M just to have had the chance to tell opposing counsel, "You wouldn't be a choice of mine, either, to be honest with you - I hope you're not offended.  I would not, under any circumstances have any interest in you.”
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2023, 09:03:31 PM
Civil case he was found liable for slander not the same as guilty of a crime

Correct.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Dos Equis on May 09, 2023, 09:06:28 PM
I think Trump is willing to pay $5M just to have had the chance to tell opposing counsel, "You wouldn't be a choice of mine, either, to be honest with you - I hope you're not offended.  I would not, under any circumstances have any interest in you.”

That was one of the all-time great gangster moments.  Absolutely love this.   ;D
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 10, 2023, 01:32:12 AM
$5M wouldn’t be enough for the opposing counsel to be attracted to his Orange ass.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: The Gov on May 10, 2023, 05:13:48 AM
$5M wouldn’t be enough for the opposing counsel to be attracted to his Orange ass.

You the sick pervert fantasizing about trump's 70 year old ass  ??? loser !
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 10, 2023, 10:18:39 AM
He actually won because the allegation was rape, they didn't believe her. On appeal the question will (or should be asked) "How can you find him liable of sexual assault but not rape?" She said he put his finger in her, that's technically Rape. And oh, just came out today that she had democrat donors for her case. The only thing she might get is $50.00 for defamation lol
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 10, 2023, 10:40:28 AM
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Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 10, 2023, 10:55:02 AM
He actually won because the allegation was rape, they didn't believe her. On appeal the question will (or should be asked) "How can you find him liable of sexual assault but not rape?" She said he put his finger in her, that's technically Rape. And oh, just came out today that she had democrat donors for her case. The only thing she might get is $50.00 for defamation lol

That was hysterical.  His finger. And only because she couldn’t  see it to know if it was his dick.  Really hysterical considering those tiny ass hands were bigger than his dick.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Sissysquats on May 10, 2023, 03:05:43 PM
Found guilty yet, politically, polling higher. Go figure
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2023, 03:56:05 PM
She couldn't even remember when it happened.

Guess that didn't make much difference to a jury of mostly men.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on May 10, 2023, 04:07:55 PM
Civil case he was found liable for slander not the same as guilty of a crime

Correction: Trump was found guilty of sexual abuse and defamation of character (slander). Sexual Abuse: Often used in reference to a sexual act committed against a vulnerable adult by someone in a position of power or authority.

Not exactly rape, but darn close to it.

What is sexual abuse 1st degree in NY?
Rather, first degree sexual abuse involves the touching of another person's private, sexual, intimate areas for one's own sexual gratification without the victim's consent or permission.

It was a civil case as opposed to a criminal case. Depending on how wealthy Trump actually is $5,000,000 is nothing to sneeze at.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: AbrahamG on May 10, 2023, 09:42:51 PM
He actually won because the allegation was rape, they didn't believe her. On appeal the question will (or should be asked) "How can you find him liable of sexual assault but not rape?" She said he put his finger in her, that's technically Rape. And oh, just came out today that she had democrat donors for her case. The only thing she might get is $50.00 for defamation lol

If I'm following you here, I think we agree.  Since when is finger banging someone against their will NOT rape? 
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: The Gov on May 11, 2023, 04:42:10 AM
If I'm following you here, I think we agree.  Since when is finger banging someone against their will NOT rape?

The effeminate Pashtun Afghanistani talking about when he was raped.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 11, 2023, 09:18:27 AM
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Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 11, 2023, 11:06:17 AM
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And yet Trumpy couldn’t tell the difference when shown photos.   ::)
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on May 11, 2023, 02:32:18 PM
He actually won because the allegation was rape, they didn't believe her. On appeal the question will (or should be asked) "How can you find him liable of sexual assault but not rape?" She said he put his finger in her, that's technically Rape. And oh, just came out today that she had democrat donors for her case. The only thing she might get is $50.00 for defamation lol

So where is it written that democrats are not allowed to support/donate to someone's legal expenses? Also, a donation is a gift. There is generally no refund required for gifts even when they are not used or needed.

Carroll told the jury Trump pinned her against a department store dressing room wall, pulled down her tights and forced his fingers into her vagina. But the jury did not find that Trump raped her – which required Carroll to prove he also inserted his penis.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/10/e-jean-carroll-trump-verdict-reaction#:~:text=Carroll%20told%20the%20jury%20Trump,he%20also%20inserted%20his%20penis.

In another article I read that Carrol wasn't positive he inserted his finger into her vagina, but she was clear on the fact that he touched her vagina.

So, if the above is correct, the believes someone must penetrate the victim with their penis for it to be considered rape. The finite legal definitions of rape vary from state to state.

In December 2011, the FBI approved an expansion of the UCR (uniform crime reporting) definition of rape to include penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.  Note: UCR is not mandated. Reporting methods/requirements vary from place to place or state to state.

Folks can nitpick whether this was a rape or sexual assault as much as they choose. Both of those offences are illegal, and both are wrong. Or as Trump would say, they are ‘nasty’.

Trump has a record of frequently appealing civil lawsuits he loses. So, this is a real possibility here. My recommendation to Carrol is to not spend any of her monetary award until it is in the bank. Trump also is known for not always paying his bills.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: AbrahamG on May 11, 2023, 03:30:22 PM
So where is it written that democrats are not allowed to support/donate to someone's legal expenses? Also, a donation is a gift. There is generally no refund required for gifts even when they are not used or needed.

Carroll told the jury Trump pinned her against a department store dressing room wall, pulled down her tights and forced his fingers into her vagina. But the jury did not find that Trump raped her – which required Carroll to prove he also inserted his penis.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/10/e-jean-carroll-trump-verdict-reaction#:~:text=Carroll%20told%20the%20jury%20Trump,he%20also%20inserted%20his%20penis.

In another article I read that Carrol wasn't positive he inserted his finger into her vagina, but she was clear on the fact that he touched her vagina.

So, if the above is correct, the believes someone must penetrate the victim with their penis for it to be considered rape. The finite legal definitions of rape vary from state to state.

In December 2011, the FBI approved an expansion of the UCR (uniform crime reporting) definition of rape to include penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.  Note: UCR is not mandated. Reporting methods/requirements vary from place to place or state to state.

Folks can nitpick whether this was a rape or sexual assault as much as they choose. Both of those offences are illegal, and both are wrong. Or as Trump would say, they are ‘nasty’.

Trump has a record of frequently appealing civil lawsuits he loses. So, this is a real possibility here. My recommendation to Carrol is to not spend any of her monetary award until it is in the bank. Trump also is known for not always paying his bills.

Finger banging someone against their will is not rape?  So in theory, a female cannot rape another female?  I'm confused.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 11, 2023, 11:00:31 PM
He actually won because the allegation was rape, they didn't believe her. On appeal the question will (or should be asked) "How can you find him liable of sexual assault but not rape?" She said he put his finger in her, that's technically Rape. And oh, just came out today that she had democrat donors for her case. The only thing she might get is $50.00 for defamation lol

 A lot to dissect and unpack here... He actually lost. Coach, a win would be no monetary award. No verdict of liability. It was civil. He wasn't facing prison on a conviction, it was damages. He was found liable for defamation AND sexual assault, and she was awarded 5 million in damages.

The thing was, as mentioned, she couldn't say for sure if it was his penis or a finger. Thus the Rape was dropped, but they believed he sexually assaulted her, but as Trump himself admitted to us all, he grabbed her. Rape is penis, finger is sexual assault. How technical would you like to get?
as far as your $50 prediction. I think we are all aware of your track record on predictions here.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 11, 2023, 11:03:36 PM
Finger banging someone against their will is not rape?  So in theory, a female cannot rape another female?  I'm confused.

apparently different states have different rules but in this case rape requires penetration by a penis. Sexual assault, which is no walk in the park as far as seriousness can be with a finger. The fact Trumps finger and penis size are similar, I'm guessing she couldn't unequivocally say it was a penis, so they have to give the benefit of the doubt. Unlike Coaches' brainwashed defense, they DID believe her that an assault happened, hence the 5 million award, they just couldn't say it was a penis or a finger. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: AbrahamG on May 12, 2023, 01:56:52 AM
What if a filthy priests only sticks his fingers up an altar boy's asshole?  That's not rape?  That kid is less traumatized?  I'm not blaming or lashing out at you, I just don't like the rules/laws.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 12, 2023, 03:50:20 AM
A lot to dissect and unpack here... He actually lost. Coach, a win would be no monetary award. No verdict of liability. It was civil. He wasn't facing prison on a conviction, it was damages. He was found liable for defamation AND sexual assault, and she was awarded 5 million in damages.

The thing was, as mentioned, she couldn't say for sure if it was his penis or a finger. Thus the Rape was dropped, but they believed he sexually assaulted her, but as Trump himself admitted to us all, he grabbed her. Rape is penis, finger is sexual assault. How technical would you like to get?
as far as your $50 prediction. I think we are all aware of your track record on predictions here.

You can’t explain facts or simple legal processes to Qoach. Might as well attempt to jump over the moon. 

It’s laughable she stated under oath she couldn’t see it.  Tiny dick energy verified. 
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: The Gov on May 12, 2023, 06:23:46 AM
You can’t explain facts or simple legal processes to Qoach. Might as well attempt to jump over the moon. 

It’s laughable she stated under oath she couldn’t see it.  Tiny dick energy verified.

Obsessed with a man's dick, perverse sick groomer.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on May 12, 2023, 04:00:21 PM
Finger banging someone against their will is not rape?  So in theory, a female cannot rape another female?  I'm confused.

Confused? Me too! I thought penetration legally defined rape. Since it is not unheard of for rapists to suffer ED with suggests penile penetration would be less likely, any type of penetration of either of the mouth, anus or vagina would be considered rape. Moreover, rape is a crime of violence and violation. In contrast, there is statutory rape wherein both parties’ consent but one or both are not of legal age to do so. Clearly, the law is confusing... maybe intentionally so.   
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 12, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Confused? Me too! I thought penetration legally defined rape. Since it is not unheard of for rapists to suffer ED with suggests penile penetration would be less likely, any type of penetration of either of the mouth, anus or vagina would be considered rape. Moreover, rape is a crime of violence and violation. In contrast, there is statutory rape wherein both parties’ consent but one or both are not of legal age to do so. Clearly, the law is confusing... maybe intentionally so.
"In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person’s intimate parts, without that person’s consent.

Keep in mind, however, that the precise definition of “rape” and “sexual assault” will differ across state laws. Further, some states treat rape and sexual assault as the same crime. In this instance, a state may still recognize a crime like sexual assault but refer to it as

sexual battery or
sexual abuse."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/trump-e-jean-carroll-verdict-rape-sexual-abuse.html

That's a link to a legal expert giving his opinion. But bear in mind, whether it's rape, or sexual abuse, it is a serious felony and in a criminal court would be subject to potential 2-20 years
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2023, 09:30:19 AM
A lot to dissect and unpack here... He actually lost. Coach, a win would be no monetary award. No verdict of liability. It was civil. He wasn't facing prison on a conviction, it was damages. He was found liable for defamation AND sexual assault, and she was awarded 5 million in damages.

The thing was, as mentioned, she couldn't say for sure if it was his penis or a finger. Thus the Rape was dropped, but they believed he sexually assaulted her, but as Trump himself admitted to us all, he grabbed her. Rape is penis, finger is sexual assault. How technical would you like to get?
as far as your $50 prediction. I think we are all aware of your track record on predictions here.

You’re still backing this? You’re about as much of a Detective (I still don’t think you were even a cop) as RuPaul is straight. The fact you and the other libtards on here thinks any part of this fake administration and all involved are remotely legit is laughable and every day my point gets proven. I don’t know one leftist that isn’t a coward

Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2023, 02:32:19 PM
The only point getting proven everyday is that you run from your own thread once getting your ass kicked in them.   
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2023, 04:47:04 PM
The only point getting proven everyday is that you run from your own thread once getting your ass kicked in them.

You know what to do, Cupcake. I ain’t hard to find
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on May 16, 2023, 05:22:57 PM
You’re still backing this? You’re about as much of a Detective (I still don’t think you were even a cop) as RuPaul is straight. The fact you and the other libtards on here thinks any part of this fake administration and all involved are remotely legit is laughable and every day my point gets proven. I don’t know one leftist that isn’t a coward

Correction: You delude yourself into believing your point gets proven at all much less every day. But you are welcome to your delusions, just don't project them onto others. Not sure what you mean when claiming you don't know one leftist who isn't a coward. Maybe this is just another one of your delusions, or you don't know many leftists and the few you do know happen to be cowardly.

I know a lot of people and most of them do not broadcast their political affiliations. I don't know a lot of folks who are obvious cowards. So, in truth, I would not know if cowardice were limited to leftists or rightists... my suspicion is cowardice and a person's political leanings are entirely different things which cannot be equated with each other.

Do you think the folks who rioted at the Capitol on January 6th are cowards or heroes? When someone commits suicide is it cowardice or braveness? When someone is a pathological liar, is that a cowardly trait or a heroic one – is it a sign of mental illness or a sign of sanity – intelligence or stupidity?
 
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2023, 06:56:56 PM
You know what to do, Cupcake. I ain’t hard to find

Continue to bust you in your dumb ass threads on here?  Why yes, that is exactly what I will do.   
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2023, 06:58:08 PM
Correction: You delude yourself into believing your point gets proven at all much less every day. But you are welcome to your delusions, just don't project them onto others. Not sure what you mean when claiming you don't know one leftist who isn't a coward. Maybe this is just another one of your delusions, or you don't know many leftists and the few you do know happen to be cowardly.

I know a lot of people and most of them do not broadcast their political affiliations. I don't know a lot of folks who are obvious cowards. So, in truth, I would not know if cowardice were limited to leftists or rightists... my suspicion is cowardice and a person's political leanings are entirely different things which cannot be equated with each other.

Do you think the folks who rioted at the Capitol on January 6th are cowards or heroes? When someone commits suicide is it cowardice or braveness? When someone is a pathological liar, is that a cowardly trait or a heroic one – is it a sign of mental illness or a sign of sanity – intelligence or stupidity?
 

Reality and facts try hard to catch up with Qoach.  But he just runs faster.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 16, 2023, 07:14:28 PM
Continue to bust you in your dumb ass threads on here?  Why yes, that is exactly what I will do.


I want it live. Me, you, prime, straw and now Agnostic. Pick your topic and let’s go. I’m to find.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2023, 07:21:12 PM

I want it live. Me, you, prime, straw and now Agnostic. Pick your topic and let’s go. I’m to find.

Why do you think anyone is going to waste time with a retard?   You are disconnected from reality with no understanding or grasp of simple facts.  You can’t even support or debate your own threads here once they are exposed as bullshit.   You sure as shit can’t handle anyone else.

Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 16, 2023, 09:23:43 PM
Why do you think anyone is going to waste time with a retard?   You are disconnected from reality with no understanding or grasp of simple facts.  You can’t even support or debate your own threads here once they are exposed as bullshit.   You sure as shit can’t handle anyone else.

It's unlikely a guy who struggles to debate coherently in a media where he has all the time in the world to fact check, get his thoughts together and type them out, would somehow be a brilliant" in real time" conversationalist. What would happen is;

"Trump lost the election by every reasonable measure. Every Republican election official, all the way to the state and US Supreme courts have weighed in in some form or fashion. Either by outright slamming his attorneys or by refusing to allow a kangaroo court because there was no evidence to move the case forward. Even Trumps Vice President and Attorney General have agreed with the elections results. In addition, every Trump supported "investigation" by his followers came up empty. "

Coach- "Thats MSM propaganda!"

I mean, how do you debate that kind of intellect? 

Coach is more than welcome to demonstrate his abilities by simply responding to my statement above, with the added benefit of taking his time, gahering his thoughts and explaining why what I posted is incorrect
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 16, 2023, 11:13:40 PM
It's unlikely a guy who struggles to debate coherently in a media where he has all the time in the world to fact check, get his thoughts together and type them out, would somehow be a brilliant" in real time" conversationalist. What would happen is;

"Trump lost the election by every reasonable measure. Every Republican election official, all the way to the state and US Supreme courts have weighed in in some form or fashion. Either by outright slamming his attorneys or by refusing to allow a kangaroo court because there was no evidence to move the case forward. Even Trumps Vice President and Attorney General have agreed with the elections results. In addition, every Trump supported "investigation" by his followers came up empty. "

Coach- "Thats MSM propaganda!"

I mean, how do you debate that kind of intellect? 

Coach is more than welcome to demonstrate his abilities by simply responding to my statement above, with the added benefit of taking his time, gahering his thoughts and explaining why what I posted is incorrect

EXACTLY.  This has been explained to him countless times before.  Yet he thinks people are “scared” to debate him.   ::)

He is too dumb to realize just how stupid he truly is.
Title: Re: Trump found guilty…..again! 🙄
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 16, 2023, 11:34:04 PM
EXACTLY.  This has been explained to him countless times before.  Yet he thinks people are “scared” to debate him.   ::)

He is too dumb to realize just how stupid he truly is.

as I've said. Self-Awareness is a valuable quality.