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Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
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Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
He hurt their sensitive feelings w/ mean tweets... Men with zero-testosterone are like that.
Very, very hurt by his words Sol...
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Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
Have you considered that some people simply do not like Donald Trump which has nothing to do with his administration's policies? What I can say is that I like him even less than I did before he was elected. I would not, however, go so far as to say I hate him. Why? Because hating someone takes a lot of negative energy which is more harmful to the hater than the hated.
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Libs would rather have Senile Joe than The Donald.
Donald is not nice. Their feewings was hurted.
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Have you considered that some people simply do not like Donald Trump which has nothing to do with his administration's policies? What I can say is that I like him even less than I did before he was elected. I would not, however, go so far as to say I hate him. Why? Because hating someone takes a lot of negative energy which is more harmful to the hater than the hated.
And these are the very same people that are too ignorant to even consider voting.
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And these are the very same people that are too ignorant to even consider voting.
You lost me Coach, which people are you talking about?
Are you still arguing about voter fraud? Give it up. Biden won the vote, Trump did not. Either way, there will be no more recounts. It is over and done with. Move on.
On one thing on which I think we can agree, people who don't vote should keep their mouth shut and if they cannot their opinion has no value.
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Have you considered that some people simply do not like Donald Trump which has nothing to do with his administration's policies? What I can say is that I like him even less than I did before he was elected. I would not, however, go so far as to say I hate him. Why? Because hating someone takes a lot of negative energy which is more harmful to the hater than the hated.
Thanks for being the first democrat / biden supporter to respond.
Are you saying his policies were okay & it's him as person you dislike ?
As I asked what policies were disliked / harmful to you or America
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You lost me Coach, which people are you talking about?
Are you still arguing about voter fraud? Give it up. Biden won the vote, Trump did not. Either way, there will be no more recounts. It is over and done with. Move on.
On one thing on which I think we can agree, people who don't vote should keep their mouth shut and if they cannot their opinion has no value.
Seriously, you’re annoying at this point especially when there’s more proof than not it was rigged. It’s not an even a fucking conspiracy theory.
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You lost me Coach, which people are you talking about?
Are you still arguing about voter fraud? Give it up. Biden won the vote, Trump did not. Either way, there will be no more recounts. It is over and done with. Move on.
On one thing on which I think we can agree, people who don't vote should keep their mouth shut and if they cannot their opinion has no value.
Keep your cokk-gobbler shut you libtard loser...Biggest hypocrite on here, deviant cokk sukker as well...
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“I want to be clear: This committee is investigating President Biden and his family’s shady business deals that capitalize on Joe Biden’s public office and risked our country’s national security … We believe that the president has been involved in this from the very beginning, obviously,” Comer said.
“It would be hard for me to believe that Hunter Biden was so charismatic that he could convince foreign nationals to wire millions of dollars into not just his account but eight of his family members’ accounts,” he added. “We believe that there was a return on the investment.”
Hunter Biden’s association with Romanian businessman Gabriel Popoviciu is one of the Biden family’s lesser-known engagements with dodgy associates in countries where Joe Biden held sway as vice president.
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You lost me Coach, which people are you talking about?
Are you still arguing about voter fraud? Give it up. Biden won the vote, Trump did not. Either way, there will be no more recounts. It is over and done with. Move on.
On one thing on which I think we can agree, people who don't vote should keep their mouth shut and if they cannot their opinion has no value.
Maybe he means the ones claiming fake birth certificates. Or stole elections. Or Kenyan citizens. Or any number of other bullshit CTs that he believes day in and day out.
Good thing the voter fraud and election fraud is being investigated. The REAL fraud that is. You know... that the Trumpturds and GOP attempted. Bogus lawsuits, fraudits, extortion/bribery, the fake elector scheme..... You know.... the real fraud that Trumpturds avoid talking about or commenting on when it is pointed out. But don't worry, the courts are not as ignorant and blind as they are. ;D
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“I want to be clear: This committee is investigating President Biden and his family’s shady business deals that capitalize on Joe Biden’s public office and risked our country’s national security … We believe that the president has been involved in this from the very beginning, obviously,” Comer said.
“It would be hard for me to believe that Hunter Biden was so charismatic that he could convince foreign nationals to wire millions of dollars into not just his account but eight of his family members’ accounts,” he added. “We believe that there was a return on the investment.”
Hunter Biden’s association with Romanian businessman Gabriel Popoviciu is one of the Biden family’s lesser-known engagements with dodgy associates in countries where Joe Biden held sway as vice president.
Is he still trying to located that "witness"?
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There should be a correction in OP’s. These are not Democrats, they only vote that way.
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There should be a correction in OP’s. These are not Democrats, they only vote that way.
If they're not democrat's what are they ?
I see not one has as yet posted what policies were so bad for them & America ........................ ..
Still waiting ::)
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Thanks for being the first democrat / biden supporter to respond.
Are you saying his policies were okay & it's him as person you dislike ?
As I asked what policies were disliked / harmful to you or America
This is not exactly what I said. It is unimportant whether I disliked Trump's policies because, as I previously stated, regardless of who is president, policies/laws require an act of congress to move forward and the President’s signature, have had no noticeable impact on my life including Trump's. I do have an opinion about some of them, but I do not have enough knowledge about their impact on others to make my opinion count for anything. It is difficult to know what is harmful or helpful to America because their impact may not be felt for many years.
Realistically, the state legislatures’ actions are more impactful on my life than those of Congress. As an example, if I partook of or even sold cannabis, it is legal in Oregon. Under federal law, cannabis is still classified as a Schedule I substance under the Controlled Substance Act. Distribution of a Schedule I substance is a federal offense. The feds are not charging Oregon licensed cannabis distributors with a crime nor are they prosecuting them… that I know of.
Here is another example of state laws impact: The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Portland Metro’s minimum wage current is $15.45 per hour (it is slightly lower in more rural areas outside Portland). In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.
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This is not exactly what I said. It is unimportant whether I disliked Trump's policies because, as I previously stated, regardless of who is president, policies/laws require an act of congress to move forward and the President’s signature, have had no noticeable impact on my life including Trump's. I do have an opinion about some of them, but I do not have enough knowledge about their impact on others to make my opinion count for anything. It is difficult to know what is harmful or helpful to America because their impact may not be felt for many years.
Realistically, the state legislatures’ actions are more impactful on my life than those of Congress. As an example, if I partook of or even sold cannabis, it is legal in Oregon. Under federal law, cannabis is still classified as a Schedule I substance under the Controlled Substance Act. Distribution of a Schedule I substance is a federal offense. The feds are not charging Oregon licensed cannabis distributors with a crime nor are they prosecuting them… that I know of.
Here is another example of state laws impact: The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Portland Metro’s minimum wage current is $15.45 per hour (it is slightly lower in more rural areas outside Portland). In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.
All that writing & you still can't / haven't said what exact policies you didn't like ??
I don't think it's a difficult question to answer is it ???
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If they're not democrat's what are they ?
I see not one has as yet posted what policies were so bad for them & America ........................ ..
Still waiting ::)
Socialists at the very least with a couple not refuting their sympathies towards Marxism. If someone votes Biden or even in the past, Obama, they’re voting for Marxism. Prime said it was because he “didn’t like Trump” as his reason for voting against him. His feelings got hurt.
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Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
No answers yet. Good luck.
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All that writing & you still can't / haven't said what exact policies you didn't like ??
I don't think it's a difficult question to answer is it ???
Locating an actual list of Trump's policies is difficult. Like most politicians, Trump was/is intentionally vague when it comes to stating policies. So, these are technically not Trump's policies, but they are some of the actions his administration took with which I disagree (dislike).
I will not fault Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic because no-one including world leaders were prepared to deal with this.
Roll Back the healthcare act - (which failed).
Muslim ban.
The handling of boarder immigration issues.
Attack on consumer protection laws.
Overturning a Department of Education accountability rule under the ‘Every Student Succeeds Act’.
Corporate tax cuts.
Rolling back more than 100 environmental rules.
Withdrew from Paris accord - climate.
Launched a trade war with China.
Judiciary appointments (literally hundreds of them).
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Locating an actual list of Trump's policies is difficult. Like most politicians, Trump was/is intentionally vague when it comes to stating policies. So, these are technically not Trump's policies, but they are some of the actions his administration took with which I disagree (dislike).
I will not fault Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic because no-one including world leaders were prepared to deal with this.
Roll Back the healthcare act - (which failed).
Muslim ban.
The handling of boarder immigration issues.
Attack on consumer protection laws.
Overturning a Department of Education accountability rule under the ‘Every Student Succeeds Act’.
Corporate tax cuts.
Rolling back more than 100 environmental rules.
Withdrew from Paris accord - climate.
Launched a trade war with China.
Judiciary appointments (literally hundreds of them).
I could pick those apart, but props to you for stepping up and answering the question.
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I could pick those apart, but props to you for stepping up and answering the question.
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You beat to it Dos , yes well done Prime for answering 👏
Dos pls do reply to what you think is wrong with them answers.
I'm at odds with a few of them.
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Locating an actual list of Trump's policies is difficult. Like most politicians, Trump was/is intentionally vague when it comes to stating policies. So, these are technically not Trump's policies, but they are some of the actions his administration took with which I disagree (dislike).
I will not fault Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic because no-one including world leaders were prepared to deal with this.
Roll Back the healthcare act - (which failed).
Muslim ban.
The handling of boarder immigration issues.
Attack on consumer protection laws.
Overturning a Department of Education accountability rule under the ‘Every Student Succeeds Act’.
Corporate tax cuts.
Rolling back more than 100 environmental rules.
Withdrew from Paris accord - climate.
Launched a trade war with China.
Judiciary appointments (literally hundreds of them).
Now provide in your own words why they were bad, I doubt you will do this for many reasons.
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Locating an actual list of Trump's policies is difficult. Like most politicians, Trump was/is intentionally vague when it comes to stating policies. So, these are technically not Trump's policies, but they are some of the actions his administration took with which I disagree (dislike).
I will not fault Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic because no-one including world leaders were prepared to deal with this.
Roll Back the healthcare act - (which failed).
Muslim ban.
The handling of boarder immigration issues.
Attack on consumer protection laws.
Overturning a Department of Education accountability rule under the ‘Every Student Succeeds Act’.
Corporate tax cuts.
Rolling back more than 100 environmental rules.
Withdrew from Paris accord - climate.
Launched a trade war with China.
Judiciary appointments (literally hundreds of them).
Just looking at that list, there was no moslem ban. There was a ban on countries, a majority of which were moslem but included other unfriendly nations, of which were deemed unfriendly under the Obama administration. Trump just took it a little further.
I have no issue with withdrawal from the Paris conference, as it made us and other “wealthy” nations subsidize third world countries to basically skip the Industrial Revolution. It was a bad deal for us and it should have been renegotiated.
I’m not sure what border issues you had a problem with, unless you just think that open borders are a good thing? ???
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Now provide in your own words why they were bad, I doubt you will do this for many reasons.
Illuminati asked me to list policies I disliked, not ones I thought were bad. Respectfully, this is the reason I am not providing you with the response you requested. Note: it is possible to dislike something someone believes is good and to like something they think is bad.
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Illuminati asked me to list policies I disliked, not ones I thought were bad. Respectfully, this is the reason I am not providing you with the response you requested. Note: it is possible to dislike something someone believes is good and to like something they think is bad.
Yes I did in my reply to you
this is my original post & what i'm asking
Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
Though you're still the only Dem / Biden supporter to respond - I wonder why not the other's yet
They have so much to say about Donald ::)
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Yes I did in my reply to you
this is my original post & what i'm asking
Though you're still the only Dem / Biden supporter to respond - I wonder why not the other's yet
They have so much to say about Donald ::)
Don't take being ignored on Getbig to heart. I answered your question because I like you and consider you my friend. It is rude to ignore a friend's request. ;)
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Don't take being ignored on Getbig to heart. I answered your question because I like you and consider you my friend. It is rude to ignore a friend's request. ;)
Ha - Thanks.
Being ignored or is it cannot answer. ??
I started the thread in hope I would get some decent honest feed back as to what policies were bad & damaging to America as there is so much hatred & dislike of Donald by a few on here.
Wanted to hear some thing other than orange man bad / grabbed some birds pussy / don't like him etc etc - Actual policies not feeling against him.
Waiting................. .................
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Ha - Thanks.
Being ignored or is it cannot answer. ??
I started the thread in hope I would get some decent honest feed back as to what policies were bad & damaging to America as there is so much hatred & dislike of Donald by a few on here.
Wanted to hear some thing other than orange man bad / grabbed some birds pussy / don't like him etc etc - Actual policies not feeling against him.
Waiting................. .................
Fair enough. Let's see if anyone else bites.
As best as I know, I have never posted 'orange man bad' (too generalized) or grabbed someone's pussy (non of my business). I have however made it clear that I have never and still don't like the man. Even if I thought his policies were spot on, I would not like him as a person... but I do not hate him either. He is not worthy of my hatred... yet.
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What kind of foreign dimwit posts so much about a countries politics that he doesn't live in and can't even vote in.
I guess that citizenship application got lost in the mail ::)
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Fair enough. Let's see if anyone else bites.
As best as I know, I have never posted 'orange man bad' (too generalized) or grabbed someone's pussy (non of my business). I have however made it clear that I have never and still don't like the man. Even if I thought his policies were spot on, I would not like him as a person... but I do not hate him either. He is not worthy of my hatred... yet.
A few do continually post orange man bad etc ,
Do you vote for the policies you think are beneficial to America or on how much you
Like / dislike the person ?
Still no others want to step up & give their answers......
Probably to caught up in hating orange man bad ::)
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A few do continually post orange man bad etc ,
Do you vote for the policies you think are beneficial to America or on how much you
Like / dislike the person ?
Still no others want to step up & give their answers......
Probably to caught up in hating orange man bad ::)
Really Illuminati, stop asking questions that cannot be simply answered. The American voter does not have the ability to vote on policies (at the federal level) and are thus forced to vote on whether we like or dislike the candidate and what they claim their policies are. We are frequently dupped!
When you say vote for policies, I assume you mean State referendums and voter submitted initiative petitions. Note: only 26 US states including Oregon have initiative and/or veto referendum processes at the statewide level.
As best as I know at the Federal level voters vote for the U.S. President (who has the power to propose policies, sign some bills into law, veto those they dislike and make appointments), and the representatives from their state in congress (House and Senate) who use their legislative power to make new laws and change existing laws.
So, this proposes a bit of a dilemma because as voters, we are asked to believe what campaigning politicians say their policies are. Unfortunately, political candidates and their campaign managers have been known to lie or fabricate reasons they believe will appeal to the voter to get elected. This leaves us voters trying to figure out who is lying the least and is most likely to follow through on their promises. Sadly, we base this partly on whether we like them or not, because that is part of our human nature.
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Really Illuminati, stop asking questions that cannot be simply answered. The American voter does not have the ability to vote on policies (at the federal level) and are thus forced to vote on whether we like or dislike the candidate and what they claim their policies are. We are frequently dupped!
When you say vote for policies, I assume you mean State referendums and voter submitted initiative petitions. Note: only 26 US states including Oregon have initiative and/or veto referendum processes at the statewide level.
As best as I know at the Federal level voters vote for the U.S. President (who has the power to propose policies, sign some bills into law, veto those they dislike and make appointments), and the representatives from their state in congress (House and Senate) who use their legislative power to make new laws and change existing laws.
So, this proposes a bit of a dilemma because as voters, we are asked to believe what campaigning politicians say their policies are. Unfortunately, political candidates and their campaign managers have been known to lie or fabricate reasons they believe will appeal to the voter to get elected. This leaves us voters trying to figure out who is lying the least and is most likely to follow through on their promises. Sadly, we base this partly on whether we like them or not, because that is part of our human nature.
You realize the dumb ass doesn't know what he means or what he is asking. He is simply repeating himself over and over for the vagueness of it all. Funny how if he really was a citizen like he claimed, he would actually know this as it is simple high school education basically.
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What kind of foreign dimwit posts so much about a countries politics that he doesn't live in and can't even vote in.
I guess that citizenship application got lost in the mail ::)
Says the guy slurping oaks balls all over the G&O ::)
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Says the guy slurping oaks balls all over the G&O ::)
Not relevant. ;)
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Seriously, you’re annoying at this point especially when there’s more proof than not it was rigged. It’s not an even a fucking conspiracy theory.
But there isn't and it is... that's just the truth
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Exactly what were the policies that were so Bad under Donald's admin ?
This is serious question - I'm trying to understand why the hate for Donald.
Every President since I took interest in politics has made policies I agreed with and didn't agree with. Made decisions I agreed with, didn't agree with (Bush Jr going into Afghanistan vs Bush Jr invading Iraq for example.
Bidens debt forgiveness (wtf?)
In the majority of cases (Iraq wasn't one of them)I felt the decisions being made were typically done after considering the pros and cons, advisors who would identify potential land mines and of course the particular political party in charges basic ideologies and platform.
I didn't agree with Trump voiding Obamas executive order that made it more difficult for people with mental illness to purchase guns.
Didn't care for Trump's obsession with spending money on a border wall that everyone should have known wouldn't work and Mexico damn sure wasn't going to pay for
Pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal made no sense.
Pulling out of the Trans Pacific Partnership.
His response to Covid
In many of his decisions, I believe his ego and management style "I'm the smartest person in the room, nobody knows more about ___ than I do, impaired his ability to make sound calls. Due to his well known blustering, personal attacks on anyone who even hinted at disagreeing, I did not have confidence he was capable of handling the job.
His call to another countries President to try and bully him into launching a public investigation against his political opponent validated my concern
He was/is a pretty despicable human being, unethical, untrustworthy, self centered. That's not the kind of person I would want on my sons school board, as a Supervisor and certainly not as the person representing my country.
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Every President since I took interest in politics has made policies I agreed with and didn't agree with. Made decisions I agreed with, didn't agree with (Bush Jr going into Afghanistan vs Bush Jr invading Iraq for example.
Bidens debt forgiveness (wtf?)
In the majority of cases (Iraq wasn't one of them)I felt the decisions being made were typically done after considering the pros and cons, advisors who would identify potential land mines and of course the particular political party in charges basic ideologies and platform.
I didn't agree with Trump voiding Obamas executive order that made it more difficult for people with mental illness to purchase guns.
Didn't care for Trump's obsession with spending money on a border wall that everyone should have known wouldn't work and Mexico damn sure wasn't going to pay for
Pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal made no sense.
Pulling out of the Trans Pacific Partnership.
His response to Covid
In many of his decisions, I believe his ego and management style "I'm the smartest person in the room, nobody knows more about ___ than I do, impaired his ability to make sound calls. Due to his well known blustering, personal attacks on anyone who even hinted at disagreeing, I did not have confidence he was capable of handling the job.
His call to another countries President to try and bully him into launching a public investigation against his political opponent validated my concern
He was/is a pretty despicable human being, unethical, untrustworthy, self centered. That's not the kind of person I would want on my sons school board, as a Supervisor and certainly not as the person representing my country.
This is an amazing, well considered, intelligent, comprehensive, and logical response to Illuminati's question regarding Presidential policies. Some of which you were okay and agreed with, and others with which you disagreed. In addition, your assessment of Trump and his approach to executive decisions, other responsibilities of his position, and the frequently negative impact his egotistical, and often juvenile personality has had on the people of this nation, in my opinion, is right on target.
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You beat to it Dos , yes well done Prime for answering 👏
Dos pls do reply to what you think is wrong with them answers.
I'm at odds with a few of them.
Ok. Here goes.
Locating an actual list of Trump's policies is difficult. Like most politicians, Trump was/is intentionally vague when it comes to stating policies. So, these are technically not Trump's policies, but they are some of the actions his administration took with which I disagree (dislike).
I will not fault Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic because no-one including world leaders were prepared to deal with this.
Roll Back the healthcare act - (which failed).
Muslim ban.
The handling of boarder immigration issues.
Attack on consumer protection laws.
Overturning a Department of Education accountability rule under the ‘Every Student Succeeds Act’.
Corporate tax cuts.
Rolling back more than 100 environmental rules.
Withdrew from Paris accord - climate.
Launched a trade war with China.
Judiciary appointments (literally hundreds of them).
Congress tried to repeal Obamacare but got stymied by Senator John McCain. Then the spineless Republicans did nothing about it. Yes Trump was helping to lead the charge, but you cannot call it a "policy" if nothing ever happened. It's a bad law anyway that was passed by outright lies told by President Obama. He specifically told members of Congress that the mandate was not a tax, which convinced Democrats to vote for it. Then when it was challenged, he argued that it was a tax, which is how the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. Obama also repeatedly lied about "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period." He knew at the time he was making those statements that they were developing administrative rules that would prohibit many people from choosing their own doctor. So the entire foundation of Obamacare is based on lies.
There was no Muslim ban. The countries on the list of banned people came from Obama, and it wasn't based on religion. That's really an outdated, completely false talking point.
Trump made tremendous improvements with border security. We were actually deporting illegal aliens under Trump. Under Biden, illegal immigration has skyrocketed. It's a crisis. This is not a close call.
Have no idea what "consumer protection laws" were attacked by Trump?
I haven't really followed the "Every Student Succeeds Act," but my cursory review shows it moved more accountability from the federal government to the states. That's a good thing. Education should be handled at the lowest level possible. The feds have done little to help our kids. They need to get out of the way.
The corporate tax cuts were absolutely necessary and incredibly beneficial. We had the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Lowering the tax rate from 35 to 21 percent help create one of the best American economies in our history. And the rate should have actually been lower. Keep in mind that reducing the cost of business reduces the cost of goods and services for consumers. When government increases the costs of doing business, business passes those increased costs to consumers.
I haven't looked at the "100 Environment rules" that were rolled back, but I challenge Prime or anyone else to identify what those rules were and how rolling them back harmed the country.
Withdrawing from anything Obama got us into was a good thing including the Paris Climate Accords. It's an unrealistic mandate.
Trump was the first president I can remember who actually held China accountable for their spying and trade imbalances. It was awesome to have someone finally fighting back. Now we have a family doing nothing, except collecting bags of cash from China, allowing they to fly spy balloons across the entire friggin country, and otherwise kissing their rear end.
Trump's judiciary appointments were, overall, outstanding. Especially his Supreme Court appointments. That might be his most important legacy.
But to each his own. People have to vote for the person they believe will do the best job to lead the country.
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Not relevant. ;)
Neither was the comment he was responding to
You missed that
;)
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Every President since I took interest in politics has made policies I agreed with and didn't agree with. Made decisions I agreed with, didn't agree with (Bush Jr going into Afghanistan vs Bush Jr invading Iraq for example.
Bidens debt forgiveness (wtf?)
In the majority of cases (Iraq wasn't one of them)I felt the decisions being made were typically done after considering the pros and cons, advisors who would identify potential land mines and of course the particular political party in charges basic ideologies and platform.
I didn't agree with Trump voiding Obamas executive order that made it more difficult for people with mental illness to purchase guns.
Didn't care for Trump's obsession with spending money on a border wall that everyone should have known wouldn't work and Mexico damn sure wasn't going to pay for
Pulling out of the Iran Nuclear Deal made no sense.
Pulling out of the Trans Pacific Partnership.
His response to Covid
In many of his decisions, I believe his ego and management style "I'm the smartest person in the room, nobody knows more about ___ than I do, impaired his ability to make sound calls. Due to his well known blustering, personal attacks on anyone who even hinted at disagreeing, I did not have confidence he was capable of handling the job.
His call to another countries President to try and bully him into launching a public investigation against his political opponent validated my concern
He was/is a pretty despicable human being, unethical, untrustworthy, self centered. That's not the kind of person I would want on my sons school board, as a Supervisor and certainly not as the person representing my country.
Ahha we have another respondent .
So there are 6 things you didn't like - plus you don't like him as a person is very clear.
Would you want Pedo Pete on your son's school board ?
And i'll be surprised if you say he's the kind of person you want representing you country.
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But there isn't and it is... that's just the truth
Are you happy / okay with Biden having a proxy war with Russia & the distinct possibility
of a Nuclear war ?
I don't recall Donald putting America in such a Bad situation
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This is an amazing, well considered, intelligent, comprehensive, and logical response to Illuminati's question regarding Presidential policies. Some of which you were okay and agreed with, and others with which you disagreed. In addition, your assessment of Trump and his approach to executive decisions, other responsibilities of his position, and the frequently negative impact his egotistical, and often juvenile personality has had on the people of this nation, in my opinion, is right on target.
Are you happy / okay with Biden having a proxy war with Russia & the distinct possibility
of a Nuclear war ?
I don't recall Donald putting America in such a Bad situation
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Says the guy slurping oaks balls all over the G&O ::)
Says the guy whose head OAK is in all over the G&O ::)
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Ok. Here goes.
Congress tried to repeal Obamacare but got stymied by Senator John McCain. Then the spineless Republicans did nothing about it. Yes Trump was helping to lead the charge, but you cannot call it a "policy" if nothing ever happened. It's a bad law anyway that was passed by outright lies told by President Obama. He specifically told members of Congress that the mandate was not a tax, which convinced Democrats to vote for it. Then when it was challenged, he argued that it was a tax, which is how the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. Obama also repeatedly lied about "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period." He knew at the time he was making those statements that they were developing administrative rules that would prohibit many people from choosing their own doctor. So the entire foundation of Obamacare is based on lies.
There was no Muslim ban. The countries on the list of banned people came from Obama, and it wasn't based on religion. That's really an outdated, completely false talking point.
Trump made tremendous improvements with border security. We were actually deporting illegal aliens under Trump. Under Biden, illegal immigration has skyrocketed. It's a crisis. This is not a close call.
Have no idea what "consumer protection laws" were attacked by Trump?
I haven't really followed the "Every Student Succeeds Act," but my cursory review shows it moved more accountability from the federal government to the states. That's a good thing. Education should be handled at the lowest level possible. The feds have done little to help our kids. They need to get out of the way.
The corporate tax cuts were absolutely necessary and incredibly beneficial. We had the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Lowering the tax rate from 35 to 21 percent help create one of the best American economies in our history. And the rate should have actually been lower. Keep in mind that reducing the cost of business reduces the cost of goods and services for consumers. When government increases the costs of doing business, business passes those increased costs to consumers.
I haven't looked at the "100 Environment rules" that were rolled back, but I challenge Prime or anyone else to identify what those rules were and how rolling them back harmed the country.
Withdrawing from anything Obama got us into was a good thing including the Paris Climate Accords. It's an unrealistic mandate.
Trump was the first president I can remember who actually held China accountable for their spying and trade imbalances. It was awesome to have someone finally fighting back. Now we have a family doing nothing, except collecting bags of cash from China, allowing they to fly spy balloons across the entire friggin country, and otherwise kissing their rear end.
Trump's judiciary appointments were, overall, outstanding. Especially his Supreme Court appointments. That might be his most important legacy.
But to each his own. People have to vote for the person they believe will do the best job to lead the country.
At 35% it was actually the second highest corporate tax rate. Now it is slightly lower than the worldwide average.
The worldwide average statutory corporate income tax rate, measured across 180 jurisdictions, is 23.37 percent. When weighted by GDP, the average statutory rate is 25.43 percent.
-Problem is the corporate tax rate reveals only part of the issue. At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.
https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/
Average effective tax rates—the percentage of income paid after tax breaks—among profitable large corporations fell from 16% in 2014 to 9% in 2018.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105384
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Neither was the comment he was responding to
You missed that
;)
All I know is there is too much irrelevancy on Getbig. ;)
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At 35% it was actually the second highest corporate tax rate. Now it is slightly lower than the worldwide average.
The worldwide average statutory corporate income tax rate, measured across 180 jurisdictions, is 23.37 percent. When weighted by GDP, the average statutory rate is 25.43 percent.
-Problem is the corporate tax rate reveals only part of the issue. At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.
https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/
Average effective tax rates—the percentage of income paid after tax breaks—among profitable large corporations fell from 16% in 2014 to 9% in 2018.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105384
So it your assumption is that these taxes were evaded? Be specific because you’re making sound lt that way.
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Are you happy / okay with Biden having a proxy war with Russia & the distinct possibility
of a Nuclear war ?
I don't recall Donald putting America in such a Bad situation
I am essentially a pacifist at heart. War never makes me happy. War reflects badly on humans. You'd think after thousands of years of tribal wars humans would have learned something... apparently not.
Have you considered how Trump might have responded in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine in an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War and NATO (U.S. allies) got more heavily involved with helping the Ukrainians defend their country?
Personally, I don't believe if Russian wins the war with the Ukraine, Putin and Russia will end the aggression. If I lived on your side of the globe as does my son and family, I would be even more concerned than I already am about this.
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At 35% it was actually the second highest corporate tax rate. Now it is slightly lower than the worldwide average.
The worldwide average statutory corporate income tax rate, measured across 180 jurisdictions, is 23.37 percent. When weighted by GDP, the average statutory rate is 25.43 percent.
-Problem is the corporate tax rate reveals only part of the issue. At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.
https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/
Average effective tax rates—the percentage of income paid after tax breaks—among profitable large corporations fell from 16% in 2014 to 9% in 2018.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105384
How many jobs did those corporations create? Corporations try and pay the fewest amount of taxes possible, because they distribute income to shareholders, officers, directors, and employees at year end to lower the amount they owe. The people receiving those distributions pay taxes on those distributions, so citing the liberal “fair share”/corporations paying “zero” in taxes talking point is grossly misleading.
It also doesn’t account for the approximately half of U.S. employees who don’t pay any federal income tax.
And “effective tax rates” are another misleading liberal talking point, often used by Soros. People who become wealthy often ultimately earn much of their income through investments, which are taxed at a lower rate than payroll income. So yes their “effective” tax rates will be lower. But they are still paying the overwhelming majority of taxes in this country.
Still, none of that makes your opposition to slashing the corporate tax rate any more reasonable. It’s not.
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I am essentially a pacifist at heart. War never makes me happy. War reflects badly on humans. You'd think after thousands of years of tribal wars humans would have learned something... apparently not.
Have you considered how Trump might have responded in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine in an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War and NATO (U.S. allies) got more heavily involved with helping the Ukrainians defend their country?
Personally, I don't believe if Russian wins the war with the Ukraine, Putin and Russia will end the aggression. If I lived on your side of the globe as does my son and family, I would be even more concerned than I already am about this.
If you’re a pacifist at heart then how can you be opposed to what Trump accomplished during his presidency? What other president in your lifetime avoided getting us into any kind of military conflict? Got North Korea to stand down. China was muted. Russia did nothing. Took back all the ground we lost in Iraq and Syria in less than one year. Got us to zero combat deaths in Afghanistan. And the Abraham Accords?
And to answer your question, if Trump were POTUS then I seriously doubt Russia would have invaded Ukraine.
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If you’re a pacifist at heart then how can you be opposed to what Trump accomplished during his presidency? What other president in your lifetime avoided getting us into any kind of military conflict? Got North Korea to stand down. China was muted. Russia did nothing. Took back all the ground we lost in Iraq and Syria in less than one year. Got us to zero combat deaths in Afghanistan. And the Abraham Accords?
And to answer your question, if Trump were POTUS then I seriously doubt Russia would have invaded Ukraine.
When did I say I opposed 'those accomplishments'?
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How many jobs did those corporations create? Corporations try and pay the fewest amount of taxes possible, because they distribute income to shareholders, officers, directors, and employees at year end to lower the amount they owe. The people receiving those distributions pay taxes on those distributions, so citing the liberal “fair share”/corporations paying “zero” in taxes talking point is grossly misleading.
It also doesn’t account for the approximately half of U.S. employees who don’t pay any federal income tax.
And “effective tax rates” are another misleading liberal talking point, often used by Soros. People who become wealthy often ultimately earn much of their income through investments, which are taxed at a lower rate than payroll income. So yes their “effective” tax rates will be lower. But they are still paying the overwhelming majority of taxes in this country.
Still, none of that makes your opposition to slashing the corporate tax rate any more reasonable. It’s not.
If I read what you wrote correctly, corporations should be taxed at a lower rate because they distribute their earnings to (among other people), their employees, half of whom do not pay any federal income tax. Makes perfect sense. So, if half the employees pay no income tax and corporations are taxed at a lower rate and sometimes pay no federal corporate tax, who is paying federal income tax? Are not the half not paying income tax those who earn the least and are thus in the lowest tax bracket? (see below)
A few points worth noting:
• Like you said, more than half of American households paid no federal income tax last year due to Covid-relief funds, tax credits and stimulus. Usually, it is somewhere around 42% of households. However, not all households have earned income.
• And then there is this. Since most workers pay payroll taxes, the share of Americans who pay neither payroll nor federal income taxes was only 19% in 2021, slightly higher than the 17% rate before the crisis.
• At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.
Tax brackets for income earned in 2023
37% for incomes over $578,125 ($693,750 for married couples filing jointly)
35% for incomes over $231,250 ($462,500 for married couples filing jointly)
32% for incomes over $182,100 ($364,200 for married couples filing jointly)
24% for incomes over $95,375 ($190,750 for married couples filing jointly)
22% for incomes over $44,725 ($89,450 for married couples filing jointly)
12% for incomes over $11,000 ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
10% for incomes of $11,000 or less ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
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If you’re a pacifist at heart then how can you be opposed to what Trump accomplished during his presidency? What other president in your lifetime avoided getting us into any kind of military conflict? Got North Korea to stand down. China was muted. Russia did nothing. Took back all the ground we lost in Iraq and Syria in less than one year. Got us to zero combat deaths in Afghanistan. And the Abraham Accords?
And to answer your question, if Trump were POTUS then I seriously doubt Russia would have invaded Ukraine.
Surely even the staunch Donald haters have begrudgingly nod muted approval
At those accomplishments - No bombing of other countries !!
Obuma bombed 7 & Pedo pete is in a proxy war with Russia , whats going to do
When China go into Taiwan??
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All I know is there is too much irrelevancy on Getbig. ;)
There's 2 main protagonists & 1 is posting on this thread ::)
The other is a Mensa member & wears his wife's pants & continually post horrible
Pics of his lopsided & deformed body.
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I am essentially a pacifist at heart. War never makes me happy. War reflects badly on humans. You'd think after thousands of years of tribal wars humans would have learned something... apparently not.
Have you considered how Trump might have responded in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine in an escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War and NATO (U.S. allies) got more heavily involved with helping the Ukrainians defend their country?
Personally, I don't believe if Russian wins the war with the Ukraine, Putin and Russia will end the aggression. If I lived on your side of the globe as does my son and family, I would be even more concerned than I already am about this.
I am concerned at whats going on - it appears NATO / America are deliberately pushing
& poking to escalate the war - if it goes nuclear then wherever you are you're in grave danger.
Where's the push for peace talks ?
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Ok. Here goes.
Congress tried to repeal Obamacare but got stymied by Senator John McCain. Then the spineless Republicans did nothing about it. Yes Trump was helping to lead the charge, but you cannot call it a "policy" if nothing ever happened. It's a bad law anyway that was passed by outright lies told by President Obama. He specifically told members of Congress that the mandate was not a tax, which convinced Democrats to vote for it. Then when it was challenged, he argued that it was a tax, which is how the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare. Obama also repeatedly lied about "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period." He knew at the time he was making those statements that they were developing administrative rules that would prohibit many people from choosing their own doctor. So the entire foundation of Obamacare is based on lies.
There was no Muslim ban. The countries on the list of banned people came from Obama, and it wasn't based on religion. That's really an outdated, completely false talking point.
Trump made tremendous improvements with border security. We were actually deporting illegal aliens under Trump. Under Biden, illegal immigration has skyrocketed. It's a crisis. This is not a close call.
Have no idea what "consumer protection laws" were attacked by Trump?
I haven't really followed the "Every Student Succeeds Act," but my cursory review shows it moved more accountability from the federal government to the states. That's a good thing. Education should be handled at the lowest level possible. The feds have done little to help our kids. They need to get out of the way.
The corporate tax cuts were absolutely necessary and incredibly beneficial. We had the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Lowering the tax rate from 35 to 21 percent help create one of the best American economies in our history. And the rate should have actually been lower. Keep in mind that reducing the cost of business reduces the cost of goods and services for consumers. When government increases the costs of doing business, business passes those increased costs to consumers.
I haven't looked at the "100 Environment rules" that were rolled back, but I challenge Prime or anyone else to identify what those rules were and how rolling them back harmed the country.
Withdrawing from anything Obama got us into was a good thing including the Paris Climate Accords. It's an unrealistic mandate.
Trump was the first president I can remember who actually held China accountable for their spying and trade imbalances. It was awesome to have someone finally fighting back. Now we have a family doing nothing, except collecting bags of cash from China, allowing they to fly spy balloons across the entire friggin country, and otherwise kissing their rear end.
Trump's judiciary appointments were, overall, outstanding. Especially his Supreme Court appointments. That might be his most important legacy.
But to each his own. People have to vote for the person they believe will do the best job to lead the country.
There should be a total Muslim ban in all non Islamic countries
Stop that filthy cancer getting in & destroying from within.
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Ahha we have another respondent .
So there are 6 things you didn't like - plus you don't like him as a person is very clear.
Would you want Pedo Pete on your son's school board ?
And i'll be surprised if you say he's the kind of person you want representing you country.
I listed 6 things I didn't like as a general example. There are more but my main point has and will be for ME, Presidents have not impacted my life very much with their policies. I agree and disagree with some of them.
For Me, Biden is not a loose cannon. We should all know North Korea and Russia are not our friends. Putin was 10 X more savvy than Trump in regards to manipulation. Kissing up to him was a mistake.
I've said more than once Biden is a place holder. I think it is enormously sad that Trump and Biden were our ultimate choices. If it happens again I will reluctantly vote what I feel is the lesser of two evils, not being excited or happy about the choice.
Your question is a valid one that I thought deserved an answer. I know going in, not everyone would agree with my answer. And that's ok. That's why we have more than one party. Not everyone will agree what's best for the country
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If I read what you wrote correctly, corporations should be taxed at a lower rate because they distribute their earnings to (among other people), their employees, half of whom do not pay any federal income tax. Makes perfect sense. So, if half the employees pay no income tax and corporations are taxed at a lower rate and sometimes pay no federal corporate tax, who is paying federal income tax? Are not the half not paying income tax those who earn the least and are thus in the lowest tax bracket? (see below)
A few points worth noting:
• Like you said, more than half of American households paid no federal income tax last year due to Covid-relief funds, tax credits and stimulus. Usually, it is somewhere around 42% of households. However, not all households have earned income.
• And then there is this. Since most workers pay payroll taxes, the share of Americans who pay neither payroll nor federal income taxes was only 19% in 2021, slightly higher than the 17% rate before the crisis.
• At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it appears to be the product of long-standing tax breaks preserved or expanded by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) as well as the CARES Act tax breaks enacted in the spring of 2020.
Tax brackets for income earned in 2023
37% for incomes over $578,125 ($693,750 for married couples filing jointly)
35% for incomes over $231,250 ($462,500 for married couples filing jointly)
32% for incomes over $182,100 ($364,200 for married couples filing jointly)
24% for incomes over $95,375 ($190,750 for married couples filing jointly)
22% for incomes over $44,725 ($89,450 for married couples filing jointly)
12% for incomes over $11,000 ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
10% for incomes of $11,000 or less ($22,000 for married couples filing jointly)
Typical exchange with you:
Me: The sky is blue.
You: So you’re saying the sky is red?
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Surely even the staunch Donald haters have begrudgingly nod muted approval
At those accomplishments - No bombing of other countries !!
Obuma bombed 7 & Pedo pete is in a proxy war with Russia , whats going to do
When China go into Taiwan??
While I don't dispute any of what you posted, it is important to note that the need for the U.S. employ military force is based on circumstances which have almost nothing to do with who is President. Also, the Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. Congress has declared war on 11 occasions, including its first declaration of war with Great Britain in 1812.
The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war, and Congress may override any such presidential veto.
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While I don't dispute any of what you posted, it is important to note that the need for the U.S. employ military force is based on circumstances which have almost nothing to do with who is President. Also, the Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. Congress has declared war on 11 occasions, including its first declaration of war with Great Britain in 1812.
The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war, and Congress may override any such presidential veto.
You don't dispute what i said - yet you still support Pedo Pete ::)
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Joe is an incredible man.
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Says the guy whose head OAK is in all over the G&O ::)
Says the they/them so obsessed with a former president and his supporters that he can't go a single day without posting about him, right Tom?