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after grisly killings
https://apnews.com/article/manson-follower-leslie-van-houten-released-prison-9d288014802324371971ce8bd63a78e4
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten, a former homecoming princess who at 19 helped carry out the shocking killings of a wealthy Los Angeles couple at the direction of the violent and manipulative cult leader, walked out of a California prison Tuesday after serving more than 50 years of a life sentence.
Van Houten, now 73, “was released to parole supervision,” the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation said in a statement.
She left the California Institution for Women in Corona, east of Los Angeles, in the early morning hours and was driven to transitional housing, her attorney Nancy Tetreault said.
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I wonder what getbigger is going to try and date her.
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She left the California Institution for Women in Corona, east of Los Angeles, in the early morning hours and was driven to transitional housing, her attorney Nancy Tetreault said.
What is "transitional housing"? A halfway house? Or just some place to live until she finds a place of her own?
In 2005, I watched a movie about Charles Manson. I can't remember the name, but in one scene, Manson said that we consider ourselves better than animals, even though we kill them. I think this was from a scene of his trial.
Something like that.
It may have been a Made For TV movie, and it was pretty good. I can't figure out what movie it was, but I do recall that "better than animals" line.
I want to say this movie was maybe from 1980, and in colour.
If any Getbiggers know what movie this was, please let me know. I wouldn't mind watching it again.
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She should have never been let out! .... fucking animal
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She should have never been let out! .... fucking animal
I was just reading about her murders - the LaBianca murders [two people + one count of conspiracy to commit murder]:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tate%E2%80%93LaBianca_murders
Fifty years may not be long to some, but in Canada, you have people out in six years for manslaughter:
https://images.ourontario.ca/gateway/details.asp?ID=2233127
^ If he shot that teen in the head, he would have been convicted of murder and given a bigger sentence, but beating a teenager to death and killing him over a 24-hour time-frame is only manslaughter, and a 6-year sentence? ???
Meanwhile, the dude [Garnet Loon] went on to kill again:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/garnet-loon-sentenced-1.5446273
^ That's Canadian justice.
Fifty years in jail would be unheard of here. So even though I agree with you that it is low, Mike - it's way more jail time than people get here.
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She stabbed that poor woman over a dozen times! ... the terror that poor woman went thru! Imo she should have never gotten out! .... I hope some relative of that woman's family dishes out some " street justice!" Since the courts failed them!
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She stabbed that poor woman over a dozen times! ... the terror that poor woman went thru! Imo she should have never gotten out! .... I hope some relative of that woman's family dishes out some " street justice!" Since the courts failed them!
I agree with you Mike that she should not have gotten out. That being said, I actually believe she no longer poses any threat to society. But still should not have gotten out.
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I remember when this was on the News ( was a kid ) we were all gripped in fear and panic ...the Sharon Tate and labianca slaughter/murders were so particularly brutal and gruesome.... this was the tail end of the " sixties " peace love And hippies ......we never locked our doors until this happened ..... read the details of the murders if you aren't familiar with them .... nobody associated with that should ever be released into society!
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Should've killed the bitch as soon as the trial was over.
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I agree with you Mike that she should not have gotten out. That being said, I actually believe she no longer poses any threat to society. But still should not have gotten out.
I agree. The fact she likely poses no threat to society should not factor into it. She did something so atrocious she should have been put to death. The 2nd option is life without parole. I don't care if she is too old to pose a threat.. she forfeited her right to live in society 50 years ago.
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I agree. The fact she likely poses no threat to society should not factor into it. She did something so atrocious she should have been put to death. The 2nd option is life without parole. I don't care if she is too old to pose a threat.. she forfeited her right to live in society 50 years ago.
This.
The saving grace is I’m sure she will die in some horrific manner probably getting mugged while walking back from the grocery store to her apartment/halfway house in Pomona or wherever she can afford to scrape out a living.
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This.
The saving grace is I’m sure she will die in some horrific manner probably getting mugged while walking back from the grocery store to her apartment/halfway house in Pomona and where she can afford to scrap out a living.
Let's hope
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I agree. The fact she likely poses no threat to society should not factor into it. She did something so atrocious she should have been put to death. The 2nd option is life without parole. I don't care if she is too old to pose a threat.. she forfeited her right to live in society 50 years ago.
this 100%!
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nudes ?
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after grisly killings
She left the California Institution for Women in Corona, east of Los Angeles, in the early morning hours and was driven to transitional housing, her attorney Nancy Tetreault said.
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I wonder what getbigger is going to try and date her.
I may try to do a thong 'pose-off' with her by the pool...
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after grisly killings
https://apnews.com/article/manson-follower-leslie-van-houten-released-prison-9d288014802324371971ce8bd63a78e4
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten, a former homecoming princess who at 19 helped carry out the shocking killings of a wealthy Los Angeles couple at the direction of the violent and manipulative cult leader, walked out of a California prison Tuesday after serving more than 50 years of a life sentence.
Van Houten, now 73, “was released to parole supervision,” the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation said in a statement.
She left the California Institution for Women in Corona, east of Los Angeles, in the early morning hours and was driven to transitional housing, her attorney Nancy Tetreault said.
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I wonder what getbigger is going to try and date her.
Lol, Leslie is out? She was always a Hout
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What is "transitional housing"? A halfway house? Or just some place to live until she finds a place of her own?
In 2005, I watched a movie about Charles Manson. I can't remember the name, but in one scene, Manson said that we consider ourselves better than animals, even though we kill them. I think this was from a scene of his trial.
Something like that.
It may have been a Made For TV movie, and it was pretty good. I can't figure out what movie it was, but I do recall that "better than animals" line.
I want to say this movie was maybe from 1980, and in colour.
If any Getbiggers know what movie this was, please let me know. I wouldn't mind watching it again.
A documentary movie? Might be Charles Manson Superstar from 1989, ya dig what I'm saying?
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Milhouses's Mom was a murderer!?!? Explains a lot...
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A documentary movie? Might be Charles Manson Superstar from 1989, ya dig what I'm saying?
That might be it!
Holy shit...good detective work, Phantom - that scene at 44:44 looks very familiar. I'll have to watch it all later today to see.
The only other I saw that looked somewhat similar were portions of the 1997 movie below - and for some reason...I think it may have been fictionalized. But I'm not sure.
I remember thinking that Manson made compelling arguments, but I was 23 at the time. I'm not sure if any arguments by Charles Manson would persuade me now.
https://youtu.be/SZRAZ6r-YGA (https://youtu.be/SZRAZ6r-YGA)
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Lol, Leslie is out? She was always a Hout
Loved her band, "Van Houten and the Blowfish"...
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This.
The saving grace is I’m sure she will die in some horrific manner probably getting mugged while walking back from the grocery store to her apartment/halfway house in Pomona or wherever she can afford to scrap out a living.
She is probably dying now.
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She should have never been let out! .... fucking animal
^^^^ THIS
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Van Houten by some margin had the most going for her out of all the Manson girls - looks, brains, social standing, homecoming princess - but all brought undone by being a diagnosed follower and replacement father figure seeker, a propensity to drugs and addiction (via her father), a whole lotta resentment based on teenage-era episodes (forced abortion, divorce with a weird parental dynamic) and being at the right place at the right time but meeting the wrong person. The little rat-faced weasel Charlie exploited things deftly as only a lifetime criminal with an obsession with Scientology and human manipulation ,pimp aspirations, god complex, and an even bigger resentment could do
A reasonable and legally solid case can -and obviously ultimately has been made - for her release given its been 50+years now along with some mitigating circumstances such as her youth at the time, brain washing, excellent prison record and perceived reform/insight.......but the nature of the crime, its attendant deserved infamy, the trial antics, and the fact she effectively was the only killer to essentially volunteer to go out and murder sort of makes it a "nah you shoulda stayed locked up for life" in my book
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Manson would have been on Getbig had he been born at a later time.
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I hope some piece shit teenagers break into her home and cut her fucking throat.
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Charlie didnt kill anyone...
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It's not like she cut out a live baby out of the pregnant Actress Sharon Tate. Then killed Sharon and baby. Here is Sharon Tate with Dave Draper to make it bodybuilding related.
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would
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It's not like she cut out a live baby out of the pregnant Actress Sharon Tate. Then killed Sharon and baby. Here is Sharon Tate with Dave Draper to make it bodybuilding related.
Exactly.
I hope she dies painfully on her first day of freedom.
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would
Waifish, psychedelic, ranch orgy, nightly, 70mm-style hippy sex.
Matt C fish and bush approved.
Wholesh.
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She stabbed that poor woman over a dozen times! ... the terror that poor woman went thru! Imo she should have never gotten out! .... I hope some relative of that woman's family dishes out some " street justice!" Since the courts failed them!
Part of the parole consideration was that she was brainwashed by Charles Manson to do the stuff. Even if the death penalty wasn't outlawed, it would not have made a difference. Her conviction was also overturned for withholding evidence and misleading the jury so her sentence was actually 7 years to life in prison. After 22 parole hearings and given her age, its hard for any jury to believe that she is going to go out and start stabbing people although its happenned before. She was 17 when she joined the Manson Family, she went to prison when she was 19....now she's 73. She has practically spent her natural born life in prison.
I hate to say this but she would have never done those things if she wasn't under the influence of Charles Manson...and LSD. I think she regrets every simple day she even met him. I don't worry about her re-offending...I worry more about people like Squeaky Fromme who is still a Manson follower. You should see what she's been up too.
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I just don't think any of them should ever be released!! (I don't care if one cut the baby out of Sharon Tate / or one held down Rosemary Labianca put a pillow over her head and stabbed her 27 times ! ) anyone involved in those gruesome Tate/Labianca murders should never ever be released out into the public again! They forfeited that Fucking right!
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I just don't think any of them should ever be released!! (I don't care if one cut the baby out of Sharon Tate / or one held down Rosemary Labianca put a pillow over her head and stabbed her 27 times ! ) anyone involved in those gruesome Tate/Labianca murders should never ever be released out into the public again! They forfeited that Fucking right!
agree. The world has enough people, we are not short on people. Those that have exhibited behavior that atrocious, screw em.
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Van Houten by some margin had the most going for her out of all the Manson girls - looks, brains, social standing, homecoming princess - but all brought undone by being a diagnosed follower and replacement father figure seeker, a propensity to drugs and addiction (via her father), a whole lotta resentment based on teenage-era episodes (forced abortion, divorce with a weird parental dynamic) and being at the right place at the right time but meeting the wrong person. The little rat-faced weasel Charlie exploited things deftly as only a lifetime criminal with an obsession with Scientology and human manipulation ,pimp aspirations, god complex, and an even bigger resentment could do
A reasonable and legally solid case can -and obviously ultimately has been made - for her release given its been 50+years now along with some mitigating circumstances such as her youth at the time, brain washing, excellent prison record and perceived reform/insight.......but the nature of the crime, its attendant deserved infamy, the trial antics, and the fact she effectively was the only killer to essentially volunteer to go out and murder sort of makes it a "nah you shoulda stayed locked up for life" in my book
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Fucking her back then would have been something else! A big gulp of man juice all over her face and pussy
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As an indication of how much Manson had got into his followers heads this little nugget from the trial is telling
Susan Atkins - she of the hairy upper lip - literally mouthing in real time Manson's replies to reporters questions
Some have questioned whether this is real or a clever edit but there are photos and other video that line up with this scenario taking place i.e. they were both in the courtroom at the moment he was talking to the press, and her head turning away from the afro lady in both the video and the photo that broadly line up with her looking in his direction, and also her eye movement when the reporter asks the question is bang on
Part of this is no doubt that he had a lot of stock phrases and common verbal ticks (eg repeating a question back), but still..he had isolated and worked on them with purpose for a while, they were putty in his hands
Still don't think leslie should have got out however
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Charlie didnt kill anyone...
Funny you say that. He didn't. He manipulated people to do what he want but he was no where near the crime scene. He spent a lot of time grooming and influencing them until he could get them to do some pretty atrocious things for him, yet in 1971 a jury of his peers sentenced him to death which was commuted to life in prison. Fast forward to Jan 6th...
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Fucking her back then would have been something else! A big gulp of man juice all over her face and pussy
Charlie would agree.
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I never really learned much about this before, so this is probably the most ill-informed comment in the thread, but in that picture I'm picking up distinct tranny vibes - did Manson actually fuck his groupies? Hmmm... ... I guess what I'm really asking is - was he sexual..? ;D
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I never really learned much about this before, so this is probably the most ill-informed comment in the thread, but in that picture I'm picking up distinct tranny vibes - did Manson actually fuck his groupies? Hmmm... ... I guess what I'm really asking is - was he sexual..? ;D
Haha yes apparently very sexual, lots of organised orgies up at Spahn, and he wasn't averse to a bit of man-on-man love either, as well as an unsavoury proclivity for the younger ones (ruth ann, dianne lake)
Yet despite having leslie on tap,the relatively plain squeaky fromme was said to be his favorite, on the right in the below NSFW link:
https://motherless.com/49CE41D
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Fucking her back then would have been something else! A big gulp of man juice all over her face and pussy
They eere filthy, musty, lazy, dope smoking hippies. I guarantee her pussy stunk like hot garbage.
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They eere filthy, musty, lazy, dope smoking hippies. I guarantee her pussy stunk like hot garbage.
True, dennis wilson was left with "the largest gonorrhea bill in history" after the Family crashed his pad for a few months
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They eere filthy, musty, lazy, dope smoking hippies. I guarantee her pussy stunk like hot garbage.
Along with hairy legs, armpits and a smelly, hairy ass crack.
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They eere filthy, musty, lazy, dope smoking hippies. I guarantee her pussy stunk like hot garbage.
Even more arousing and better :D
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It's not like she cut out a live baby out of the pregnant Actress Sharon Tate. Then killed Sharon and baby. Here is Sharon Tate with Dave Draper to make it bodybuilding related.
Sharon Tate with Bruce Lee to make it Martial Arts related.
Bruce was investigated for the Murders back in the day.
A distraught Roman Polanski suspected the murder was the work of someone close to he and wife Sharon Tate, at one point testing Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee Was Roman Polanski’s Number One Suspect After the Murder of Sharon Tate
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Chinese aren't known for murder. Mao not included.
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Many have done life without the possibility of parole for much less
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Part of the parole consideration was that she was brainwashed by Charles Manson to do the stuff. Even if the death penalty wasn't outlawed, it would not have made a difference. Her conviction was also overturned for withholding evidence and misleading the jury so her sentence was actually 7 years to life in prison. After 22 parole hearings and given her age, its hard for any jury to believe that she is going to go out and start stabbing people although its happenned before. She was 17 when she joined the Manson Family, she went to prison when she was 19....now she's 73. She has practically spent her natural born life in prison.
I hate to say this but she would have never done those things if she wasn't under the influence of Charles Manson...and LSD. I think she regrets every simple day she even met him. I don't worry about her re-offending...I worry more about people like Squeaky Fromme who is still a Manson follower. You should see what she's been up too.
I don't care if the dog is mad when it attacks me. I want it dead. The result outweighs any excuse. This new liberal thinking excusing criminal behavior with mental illness is mental illness itself.
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Funny you say that. He didn't. He manipulated people to do what he want but he was no where near the crime scene. He spent a lot of time grooming and influencing them until he could get them to do some pretty atrocious things for him, yet in 1971 a jury of his peers sentenced him to death which was commuted to life in prison. Fast forward to Jan 6th...
Sort of like Pedo Libturd groomers...
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Sort of like Pedo Libturd groomers... teachers.
fixed
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Many have done life without the possibility of parole for much less
exactly ..... lock that bitch up and throw away the key!
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Many have done life without the possibility of parole for much less
The way things are going soon you will get more time for using the wrong pronouns.
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The way things are going soon you will get more time for using the wrong pronouns.
Thankfully i am old and not having to grow up in the society of today or having to see how society will become in 50 years
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I don't care if the dog is mad when it attacks me. I want it dead. The result outweighs any excuse. This new liberal thinking excusing criminal behavior with mental illness is mental illness itself.
This has nothing to do with liberalism. There was plenty of evidence but prosecutional misconduct led to the 7 years to life prison sentence. She still ended up doing over 50 years. Newsom and other governors held up her release as best as they could but the courts stepped in and put an end to it. There has to be due process of the law in place and its hard to make a case for a 73 year old crusty old woman is a danger to society.
Yes, she did a horrible thing but she was in a cult, she was brainwashed....that's the way cults works. She would have been released sooner if she wasn't attached to the Manson Family. The only thing left in her life is to pretty much die and get thrown into a hole or cremated.
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Thankfully i am old and not having to grow up in the society of today or having to see how society will become in 50 years
Me too.
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This has nothing to do with liberalism. There was plenty of evidence but prosecutional misconduct led to the 7 years to life prison sentence. She still ended up doing over 50 years. Newsom and other governors held up her release as best as they could but the courts stepped in and put an end to it. There has to be due process of the law in place and its hard to make a case for a 73 year old crusty old woman is a danger to society.
Yes, she did a horrible thing but she was in a cult, she was brainwashed....that's the way cults works. She would have been released sooner if she wasn't attached to the Manson Family. The only thing left in her life is to pretty much die and get thrown into a hole or cremated.
Respectfully disagree. She participated in a murder. Being "Brainwashed" is still her responsibility. Murderers who kill strangers, especially premeditated, lose any right to be a part of society. If the Death Sentence can't be reached, which would be the best answer, they don't deserve to see the light of day outside a prison. I don't care the age. They didn't care about the person they murdered seeing the next day. Screw em.
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Respectfully disagree. She participated in a murder. Being "Brainwashed" is still her responsibility. Murderers who kill strangers, especially premeditated, lose any right to be a part of society. If the Death Sentence can't be reached, which would be the best answer, they don't deserve to see the light of day outside a prison. I don't care the age. They didn't care about the person they murdered seeing the next day. Screw em.
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Respectfully disagree. She participated in a murder. Being "Brainwashed" is still her responsibility. Murderers who kill strangers, especially premeditated, lose any right to be a part of society. If the Death Sentence can't be reached, which would be the best answer, they don't deserve to see the light of day outside a prison. I don't care the age. They didn't care about the person they murdered seeing the next day. Screw em.
Agree
Vince is a fucking idiot, hope some dumb fuck kills him in his trailer and sets it all on fire, then the killer gets 10 years and is out in 5, justice would be served