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Title: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Matt on July 25, 2023, 08:11:46 PM
I had to go online to see what "Rhabdo" is:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvJEyYMp3kV/

And my training partner sent me this video, showing Larry's biceps injury:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuZNlFCMeCq/
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 25, 2023, 09:50:09 PM
There’s nothing new about Rhabdo but since CrossFit was started it sure brought it to the forefront of stupid training.

Like the screenshot says. It basically breaks down muscle tissue (injures it) to the point it gets absorbed into the bloodstream and a toxin. It runs through the kidneys where it’s filtered and if not caught in time, destroys the kidneys
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Matt on July 25, 2023, 10:10:57 PM
There’s nothing new about Rhabdo but since CrossFit was started it sure brought it to the forefront of stupid training.

Like the screenshot says. It basically breaks down muscle tissue (injures it) to the point it gets absorbed into the bloodstream and a toxin. It runs through the kidneys where it’s filtered and if not caught in time, destroys the kidneys

What causes this toxic breakdown, Coach?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 25, 2023, 10:36:32 PM
What causes this toxic breakdown, Coach?

Just as I said. Basically tearing down the muscle so much beyond just DOM’s resulting into actual muscle trauma. Extreme high volume exercises can do this especially if you’re not accustomed to this form of high volume training. A great example of destroying a team would be about 6-7 years ago the University of Oregon brought in a new S&C coach. He thought it would be a good idea to mentally try to break the team through some crazy ass program. The results were having almost half the team in the hospital with Rhabdomyolosis (Rhabdo). One of the more dumber and dangerous things I’ve seen in my years of training athletes. This guy should never work on the S&C field again
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: affeman on July 25, 2023, 11:04:18 PM
It's a shame he's a train wreck already. Definitely had to be one of the most gifted strength athletes ever.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 25, 2023, 11:05:56 PM
It's a shame he's a train wreck already. Definitely had to be one of the most gifted strength athletes ever.

It really is. I don’t even think he’s 30?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: affeman on July 25, 2023, 11:07:39 PM
It really is. I don’t even think he’s 30?

29 in December

Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Hendrixian on July 25, 2023, 11:10:30 PM
Just as I said. Basically tearing down the muscle so much beyond just DOM’s resulting into actual muscle trauma. Extreme high volume exercises can do this especially if you’re not accustomed to this form of high volume training. A great example of destroying a team would be about 6-7 years ago the University of Oregon brought in a new S&C coach. He thought it would be a good idea to mentally try to break the team through some crazy ass program. The results were having almost half the team in the hospital with Rhabdomyolosis (Rhabdo). One of the more dumber and dangerous things I’ve seen in my years of training athletes. This guy should never work on the S&C field again

I wonder how common this condition is for the regular lifter, one would have to train way beyond failure multiple times? I know crossfiters are proud of having it, stupid people.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: affeman on July 25, 2023, 11:19:53 PM
I wonder how common this condition is for the regular lifter, one would have to train way beyond failure multiple times? I know crossfiters are proud of having it, stupid people.

Reading this I think I recall that at the very beginning, when I was working out for maybe 1 or 2 years, being probably severely overtrained as a young and over-motivated iron warrior ;D, I was getting my regular check-up at the doctor's office, and there was some protein found in my urine sample. The doctor (who had no clue about strength training though) told me that this was not normal because it meant that my kidneys had to clean Protein out of my system.

I never had any problems since then and didn't waste much thought about it, but maybe this was a small hint of the condition we're talking about in this thread.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Bevo on July 26, 2023, 12:41:38 AM
Nothing to worry for me, I don’t train hard enough
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Matt on July 26, 2023, 12:54:53 AM
Just as I said. Basically tearing down the muscle so much beyond just DOM’s resulting into actual muscle trauma. Extreme high volume exercises can do this especially if you’re not accustomed to this form of high volume training. A great example of destroying a team would be about 6-7 years ago the University of Oregon brought in a new S&C coach. He thought it would be a good idea to mentally try to break the team through some crazy ass program. The results were having almost half the team in the hospital with Rhabdomyolosis (Rhabdo). One of the more dumber and dangerous things I’ve seen in my years of training athletes. This guy should never work on the S&C field again

Really? So nothing to do with gear at all? Just training your butt off in the gym?

Well...I suppose in a roundabout way, gear would increase our capacity to train that way. But the way you describe it, hard natural trainers can be afflicted by it.

Interesting. Thanks, Coach. That's all new information to me.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2023, 12:59:46 AM
I wonder how common this condition is for the regular lifter, one would have to train way beyond failure multiple times? I know crossfiters are proud of having it, stupid people.

It’s not. You’ll almost never see this in a regular gym or S&C facility with people training on their own. General population hate pain and if they don’t understand it (depending on what the pain is) they won’t work through it, which in this case is a good thing. It’s usually when you get the “personal trainer” who thinks that if their client is almost fucking debilitating sore the client thinks that trainer is the best in the world.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2023, 01:09:18 AM
Really? Do nothing to do with gear at all? Just training your butt off in the gym?

Well...as suppose in a roundabout way, gear would increase our capacity to train that way. But the way you describe it, hard natural trainers can be afflicted by it.

Interesting. Thanks, Coach. That's all new information to me.

This has little to do with gear. With gear it will actually aid in recovery. Now, on an another note, let’s say you’re older and still train hard but suffer with high cholesterol and you get some doctor that places you on a statin that doesn’t understand exercise intensity, if you’re training with any type of intensity that statin WILL cause unusual soreness (depending on the mg) with the very possibility of Rhabdo.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Vince B on July 26, 2023, 01:40:13 AM
Larry Wheels was heading for injuries the way he kept lifting heavy.

Larry Scott advocated going up and down the rack for biceps and also deltoids. The accumulated pain was severe. Most people can't persist with such protocols so avoid that dangerous side effect.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Tennisballz on July 26, 2023, 03:12:31 AM
Someone needs to warn bhank to back off a little with the workouts.  We are all aware of how hard he works.  Would hate to see this happen to him!
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Rambone on July 26, 2023, 03:18:51 AM
Larry is a low IQ individual. Definitely not Mensa material
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: IroNat on July 26, 2023, 04:31:57 AM
Reading this I think I recall that at the very beginning, when I was working out for maybe 1 or 2 years, being probably severely overtrained as a young and over-motivated iron warrior ;D, I was getting my regular check-up at the doctor's office, and there was some protein found in my urine sample. The doctor (who had no clue about strength training though) told me that this was not normal because it meant that my kidneys had to clean Protein out of my system.

I never had any problems since then and didn't waste much thought about it, but maybe this was a small hint of the condition we're talking about in this thread.


Protein in the urine is common if you are training intensively and particularly intensively with heavy weights.

It's normal and usually not a big deal.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Lartinos on July 26, 2023, 08:01:35 AM
Could just be an excuse for another guy destroying their kidneys with drugs.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: falco on July 26, 2023, 08:15:44 AM
That guy never leaves the hospital. He should rethink his priorities.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on July 26, 2023, 08:21:21 AM
These popular gymrat clowns are always in trouble of one sort of another. And people idolize these clowns.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Fortress on July 26, 2023, 09:03:02 AM
Larry is a likeable dude. Unfortunately he’s also not terribly bright.

As I’ve said for years, he is heading towards a very miserable future version of himself.

The guy has done major damage to himself in a relatively short period of time.
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2023, 09:06:17 AM
Is this the result of strict curls?
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: joswift on July 26, 2023, 09:09:39 AM
Is this the result of strict curls?
he did tear a bicep doing it.
8mins
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2023, 09:29:30 AM
he did tear a bicep doing it.
8mins


The video must be mislabeled. P should be replaced with a W. WR not PR
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: Taffin on July 26, 2023, 02:13:58 PM
Could just be an excuse for another guy destroying their kidneys with drugs.

LOL - 'super rare' genetic FSGS of peace... ;D
Title: Re: Larry Wheels Update [Hospital].
Post by: GymnJuice on July 26, 2023, 02:15:49 PM
Is this the result of strict curls?

The rhabdo? Maybe... But I think Hanky got his organ failure before he started doing strict curls. So it might not be specific to the exercise.  ;D