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Andy Ngo loses civil lawsuit against Portland activists
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:27 p.m.|Published: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:07 p.m.
Right-wing writer Andy Ngo lost his bid to hold two activists accountable for the beating he received after going undercover at a Portland protest in 2021, a jury ruled Tuesday.
After a weeklong trial, the Multnomah County jury of six men and six women deliberated for about five hours before delivering a brief verdict clearing activists John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter of all civil liability.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/andy-ngo-loses-civil-lawsuit-against-portland-activists.html?e=cb2e7b7959392dfa4a31b27feebe4494&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Andy%20Ngo%20loses%20civil%20lawsuit%20against%20Portland%20activists&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news
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Right-wing writer Andy Ngo’s trial against Portland activists begins: ‘This is Twitter come to real life’
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 5:07 p.m.|Published: Aug. 01, 2023, 2:29 p.m.
By Zane Sparling | The Oregonian/OregonLive
A conservative writer who was repeatedly beaten while covering Portland protests is betting that a jury will hold his ideological opponents accountable for the attacks as his civil trial opened Tuesday.
Author and editor Andy Ngo’s lawsuit has dramatically changed in scope since he first filed it three years ago — now focusing on a 2019 altercation at a gym and the later unmasking and attack on Ngo after he appeared in disguise at a downtown demonstration in 2021.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/right-wing-writer-andy-ngos-lawsuit-against-portland-activists-begins.html
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This affects us how? Posting more irrelevant shit doesn’t help your Marxist cause
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Andy Ngo loses civil lawsuit against Portland activists
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:27 p.m.|Published: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:07 p.m.
Right-wing writer Andy Ngo lost his bid to hold two activists accountable for the beating he received after going undercover at a Portland protest in 2021, a jury ruled Tuesday.
After a weeklong trial, the Multnomah County jury of six men and six women deliberated for about five hours before delivering a brief verdict clearing activists John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter of all civil liability.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/andy-ngo-loses-civil-lawsuit-against-portland-activists.html?e=cb2e7b7959392dfa4a31b27feebe4494&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Andy%20Ngo%20loses%20civil%20lawsuit%20against%20Portland%20activists&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news
Eight days ago
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Right-wing writer Andy Ngo’s trial against Portland activists begins: ‘This is Twitter come to real life’
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 5:07 p.m.|Published: Aug. 01, 2023, 2:29 p.m.
By Zane Sparling | The Oregonian/OregonLive
A conservative writer who was repeatedly beaten while covering Portland protests is betting that a jury will hold his ideological opponents accountable for the attacks as his civil trial opened Tuesday.
Author and editor Andy Ngo’s lawsuit has dramatically changed in scope since he first filed it three years ago — now focusing on a 2019 altercation at a gym and the later unmasking and attack on Ngo after he appeared in disguise at a downtown demonstration in 2021.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/right-wing-writer-andy-ngos-lawsuit-against-portland-activists-begins.html
The dishonest media at it again. "Right-wing writer." "Conservative writer." ::)
Not surprised by the outcome. Oregon is full of fascists who let those zealots nearly burn a federal courthouse down.
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The dishonest media at it again. "Right-wing writer." "Conservative writer." ::)
Not surprised by the outcome. Oregon is full of fascists who let those zealots nearly burn a federal courthouse down.
How would you describe Andy Ngo?
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This effects us how? Posting more irrelevant shit doesn’t help your Marxist cause
It probably doesn't affect you because you likely have no idea who he is, being as how you are lost in your own head. Other folks here have discussed him and linked to his social media. It isn't much of a leap to think they'd be interested in what is going on with him.
FYI, Since I have no Marxist cause, I wasn't looking to help it.
I am beginning to think some folks here are right on when they say you are dumb as a stump. You are for sure as thick headed and dense as a stump.
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How would you describe Andy Ngo?
He's a journalist and investigative reporter.
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It probably doesn't affect you because you likely have no idea who he is, being as how you are lost in your own head. Other folks here have discussed him and linked to his social media. It isn't much of a leap to think they'd be interested in what is going on with him.
FYI, Since I have no Marxist cause, I wasn't looking to help it.
I am beginning to think some folks here are right on when they say you are dumb as a stump. You are for sure as thick headed and dense as a stump.
Chances are I know of him more than you since you don’t keep up with shit. And you say you have no Marxist or communist cause means you’re full of crap since you fully support Biden’s DOJ and Jack Smith going after Trump like Stalin did to the opposition. So don’t give me that crap unless you’re completely oblivious to history
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Andy Ngo loses civil lawsuit against Portland activists
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:27 p.m.|Published: Aug. 08, 2023, 4:07 p.m.
Right-wing writer Andy Ngo lost his bid to hold two activists accountable for the beating he received after going undercover at a Portland protest in 2021, a jury ruled Tuesday.
After a weeklong trial, the Multnomah County jury of six men and six women deliberated for about five hours before delivering a brief verdict clearing activists John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter of all civil liability.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/andy-ngo-loses-civil-lawsuit-against-portland-activists.html?e=cb2e7b7959392dfa4a31b27feebe4494&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Andy%20Ngo%20loses%20civil%20lawsuit%20against%20Portland%20activists&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news
Eight days ago
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Right-wing writer Andy Ngo’s trial against Portland activists begins: ‘This is Twitter come to real life’
Updated: Aug. 08, 2023, 5:07 p.m.|Published: Aug. 01, 2023, 2:29 p.m.
By Zane Sparling | The Oregonian/OregonLive
A conservative writer who was repeatedly beaten while covering Portland protests is betting that a jury will hold his ideological opponents accountable for the attacks as his civil trial opened Tuesday.
Author and editor Andy Ngo’s lawsuit has dramatically changed in scope since he first filed it three years ago — now focusing on a 2019 altercation at a gym and the later unmasking and attack on Ngo after he appeared in disguise at a downtown demonstration in 2021.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/right-wing-writer-andy-ngos-lawsuit-against-portland-activists-begins.html
That fucking taxi had no case from the beginning. You cannot just sue people without having proof that they attacked you. That quarter jockey also provoked that mob and walked right into him. Best thing for this simpson to do is to stay out of trouble and avoid hitting those hornet nests
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How would you describe Andy Ngo?
Unlike any MSM pundit, Ngo is a real journalist
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Oregon is full of retarded caulk-sukkers...
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Chances are I know of him more than you since you don’t keep up with shit. And you say you have no Marxist or communist cause means you’re full of crap since you fully support Biden’s DOJ and Jack Smith going after Trump like Stalin did to the opposition. So don’t give me that crap unless you’re completely oblivious to history
And you'd sure know crap when you see it because it is what fuels your delusionally warped mind.
BTW, I posted about Andy Ngo losing the lawsuit because I knew you'd be interested. In fact, you undoubtedly heard about it from me first because it had only just come out on the Oregon Live digital newspaper, which I am guessing you don't read. I did you a favor... you are welcome. You should be thanking me. But instead of doing that you turn it around and use it as basis for another of your ridiculous Marxist and Communist rants. I think you are a ‘Stupidist’ meaning one of the stupidest people I have ever known.
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And you'd sure know crap when you see it because it is what fuels your delusionally warped mind.
BTW, I posted about Andy Ngo losing the lawsuit because I knew you'd be interested. In fact, you undoubtedly heard about it from me first because it had only just come out on the Oregon Live digital newspaper, which I am guessing you don't read. I did you a favor... you are welcome. You should be thanking me. But instead of doing that you turn it around and use it as basis for another of your ridiculous Marxist and Communist rants. I think you are a ‘Stupidist’ meaning one of the stupidest people I have ever known.
And that being said, I couldn’t care less. It’s irrelevant
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That fucking taxi had no case from the beginning. You cannot just sue people without having proof that they attacked you. That quarter jockey also provoked that mob and walked right into him. Best thing for this simpson to do is to stay out of trouble and avoid hitting those hornet nests
Have you been following him? They literally tried to murder him. His life is constantly in danger for reporting the truth about ANTIFA.
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Have you been following him? They literally tried to murder him. His life is constantly in danger for reporting the truth about ANTIFA.
Thats right, they tried to kill him. There's one thing reporting and another thing to provoke them. He talks a lot of shit about them and then goes up to them and ask questions....bad idea.
Judge did not have any sympathy for him with his action. Outcome was already there, he wasted his time and money
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Thats right, they tried to kill him. There's one thing reporting and another thing to provoke them. He talks a lot of shit about them and then goes up to them and ask questions....bad idea.
Judge did not have any sympathy for him with his action. Outcome was already there, he wasted his time and money
All he does is report the truth about them.
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This was brought up today on one of the pundit shows so I thought I would do a little investigating. You have to subscribe to the link that Prime provided so I don’t if his article included this…also, Ngo was attacked with cement filled cups..
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689096840606605313?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689097585699528704?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
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This was brought up today on one of the pundit shows so I thought I would do a little investigating. You have to subscribe to the link that Prime provided so I don’t if his article included this…also, Ngo was attacked with cement filled cups..
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689096840606605313?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689097585699528704?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
Bunch of violent, marxist psychos. Another wing of the Democrat party.
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All he does is report the truth about them.
He's doing it right in their faces and confronting them with insults. He earned that high five
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He's doing it right in their faces and confronting them with insults. He earned that high five
That's not true. He is covering them and exposing the truth about those domestic terrorists.
But let's assume what you say is true and he is insulting them. That doesn't justify trying to murder him. Absurd.
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That's not true. He is covering them and exposing the truth about those domestic terrorists.
But let's assume what you say is true and he is insulting them. That doesn't justify trying to murder him. Absurd.
I wasn't saying it justifies it, you shouldn't assault anyone. But you can't just pick two random people out of a crowd and say that they whipped your ass without any proof or evidence just because they are members of antifa.
Andy made money from the whole thing with his crappy book and etc. He just needs to stay in his own weight class if he wants to walk up to a person or group and directly talk shit to them
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This was brought up today on one of the pundit shows so I thought I would do a little investigating. You have to subscribe to the link that Prime provided so I don’t if his article included this…also, Ngo was attacked with cement filled cups..
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689096840606605313?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1689097585699528704?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
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This is a photo of Andy Ngo covered in a milkshake which was thrown at him. Maybe it looks like cement to some folks, but it isn't.
A right-wing meme was born the weekend after Portland police said they’d been informed that Antifa protesters had pelted far-right demonstrators with cement milkshakes. Conservative internet trolls, including Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec and writer Ian Miles Cheong, pounced, tweeting that left-wingers were pelting people with cement drinks. Their followers ran with it, posting photos of concrete burns suffered by the demonstrators.
Except that none of it was true. There’s no evidence that the milkshakes contained cement. The photos were fake. And the police got it all wrong, and in the process birthed a right-wing internet movement based on a falsehood.
Here’s what actually happened: The Proud Boys, a neo-fascist group, held a rally in Portland. Protesters aligned with Antifa, the anti-fascist movement, showed up, and some of them sold vegan milkshakes to other protesters. Throwing milkshakes, or “milkshaking,” has become a left-wing protest tactic, aimed at embarrassing the far right, and some of the protesters proceeded to pelt Proud Boy demonstrators with their drinks, according to reports.
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/andy-ngo-speaks-out-losing-civil-suit-against-rose-city-antifa-didnt-receive-justice
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(https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/GettyImages-1152896318.jpg?resize=990,556)
This is a photo of Andy Ngo covered in a milkshake which was thrown at him. Maybe it looks like cement to some folks, but it isn't.
A right-wing meme was born the weekend after Portland police said they’d been informed that Antifa protesters had pelted far-right demonstrators with cement milkshakes. Conservative internet trolls, including Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec and writer Ian Miles Cheong, pounced, tweeting that left-wingers were pelting people with cement drinks. Their followers ran with it, posting photos of concrete burns suffered by the demonstrators.
Except that none of it was true. There’s no evidence that the milkshakes contained cement. The photos were fake. And the police got it all wrong, and in the process birthed a right-wing internet movement based on a falsehood.
Here’s what actually happened: The Proud Boys, a neo-fascist group, held a rally in Portland. Protesters aligned with Antifa, the anti-fascist movement, showed up, and some of them sold vegan milkshakes to other protesters. Throwing milkshakes, or “milkshaking,” has become a left-wing protest tactic, aimed at embarrassing the far right, and some of the protesters proceeded to pelt Proud Boy demonstrators with their drinks, according to reports.
Why doesn’t it surprise me that you would actually side with a propaganda rag that defends Antifa. I’m actually praying for the day they come back to HB so we can pound the shit out them like we did before.
Hey genius, do you actually think that left wing rag is lying or maybe that not all of the cups thrown at him was a “milkshake”?
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I wasn't saying it justifies it, you shouldn't assault anyone. But you can't just pick two random people out of a crowd and say that they whipped your ass without any proof or evidence just because they are members of antifa.
Andy made money from the whole thing with his crappy book and etc. He just needs to stay in his own weight class if he wants to walk up to a person or group and directly talk shit to them
Crappy book? Have you read Umasked? I have.
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(https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/GettyImages-1152896318.jpg?resize=990,556)
This is a photo of Andy Ngo covered in a milkshake which was thrown at him. Maybe it looks like cement to some folks, but it isn't.
A right-wing meme was born the weekend after Portland police said they’d been informed that Antifa protesters had pelted far-right demonstrators with cement milkshakes. Conservative internet trolls, including Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec and writer Ian Miles Cheong, pounced, tweeting that left-wingers were pelting people with cement drinks. Their followers ran with it, posting photos of concrete burns suffered by the demonstrators.
Except that none of it was true. There’s no evidence that the milkshakes contained cement. The photos were fake. And the police got it all wrong, and in the process birthed a right-wing internet movement based on a falsehood.
Here’s what actually happened: The Proud Boys, a neo-fascist group, held a rally in Portland. Protesters aligned with Antifa, the anti-fascist movement, showed up, and some of them sold vegan milkshakes to other protesters. Throwing milkshakes, or “milkshaking,” has become a left-wing protest tactic, aimed at embarrassing the far right, and some of the protesters proceeded to pelt Proud Boy demonstrators with their drinks, according to reports.
This is plagiarized from a left-wing rag opinion piece.
How a Dubious Claim of Cement Milkshakes in Portland Became a Right-Wing Meme
The police claimed that left-wing protesters were hurling cement drinks. There’s no evidence to back that up.
JULY 2, 2019
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/how-a-dubious-claim-of-cement-milkshakes-in-portland-became-a-right-wing-meme/
But yeah, maybe Andy Ngo conspired with the hospital and his doctors to fake a serious brain injury.
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Why doesn’t it surprise me that you would actually side with a propaganda rag that defends Antifa. I’m actually praying for the day they come back to HB so we can pound the shit out them like we did before.
Hey genius, do you actually think that left wing rag is lying or maybe that not all of the cups thrown at him was a “milkshake”?
I doubt that I have a genius level IQ, but thanks for saying I do. Anyway, a logical argument isn't necessarily intelligent. It has often been observed that high IQ folks are lacking in 'common sense'. It follows then that maybe it is you who is the genius.
If I thought that 'left wing rag' was lying, I would not have posted the article. A Portland jury ruled against right-wing media figure Andy Ngo Tuesday, Aug. 8 in a lawsuit seeking damages from antifascist activists for two separate attacks.
If you can find proof that one or some of the 'milkshakes' were cement, then be my guest and post it.
Portland, Oregon—After seven days of trial, a 12-person Multnomah County (Portland) jury found no fault against activists John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter, in a lawsuit that was filed three years ago by conservative provocateur Andy Ngo. Ngo sought over $300,000 for a variety of alleged incidents involving many people between 2019 and 2021. Except from a Civil Liberties Defense Center article.
Jurors rejected right-wing writer Andy Ngo’s attempt to hold two left-wing activists accountable for the beating he received after going undercover at a Portland protest in 2021. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/andy-ngo-loses-civil-lawsuit-against-portland-activists.html
Ngo's attorney, Yamamoto explained to the jury that while Hacker and Richter may or may not have physically beaten Ngo on the night of May 28, 2021, the defendants can still be held liable for battery, assault, and intentional infliction of emotional distress due to state law. Ngo’s attorney explained that assault in civil does not require contact, but rather intent and the plaintiff’s awareness. Maybe Andy hired the wrong attorney.
Who knows, maybe those twelve jurors got it wrong. This is the risk one takes when they file a lawsuit and have a trial by jury... sometimes they win and sometimes they lose. That you don't agree with the outcome does not change it.
It is 98° F and climbing here in West Linn while it is only 74° F in Huntington beach. Keep a cool head, you have no reason to be hotheaded today, but I do which is why I am staying inside where it is 75° with the central air going full blast.
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That fucking taxi had no case from the beginning. You cannot just sue people without having proof that they attacked you. That quarter jockey also provoked that mob and walked right into him. Best thing for this simpson to do is to stay out of trouble and avoid hitting those hornet nests
Not surprising you hate Asians.
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I doubt that I have a genius level IQ, but thanks for saying I do. Anyway, a logical argument isn't necessarily intelligent. It has often been observed that high IQ folks are lacking in 'common sense'. It follows then that maybe it is you who is the genius.
If I thought that 'left wing rag' was lying, I would not have posted the article. A Portland jury ruled against right-wing media figure Andy Ngo Tuesday, Aug. 8 in a lawsuit seeking damages from antifascist activists for two separate attacks.
If you can find proof that one or some of the 'milkshakes' were cement, then be my guest and post it.
Portland, Oregon—After seven days of trial, a 12-person Multnomah County (Portland) jury found no fault against activists John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter, in a lawsuit that was filed three years ago by conservative provocateur Andy Ngo. Ngo sought over $300,000 for a variety of alleged incidents involving many people between 2019 and 2021. Except from a Civil Liberties Defense Center article.
Jurors rejected right-wing writer Andy Ngo’s attempt to hold two left-wing activists accountable for the beating he received after going undercover at a Portland protest in 2021. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2023/08/andy-ngo-loses-civil-lawsuit-against-portland-activists.html
Ngo's attorney, Yamamoto explained to the jury that while Hacker and Richter may or may not have physically beaten Ngo on the night of May 28, 2021, the defendants can still be held liable for battery, assault, and intentional infliction of emotional distress due to state law. Ngo’s attorney explained that assault in civil does not require contact, but rather intent and the plaintiff’s awareness. Maybe Andy hired the wrong attorney.
Who knows, maybe those twelve jurors got it wrong. This is the risk one takes when they file a lawsuit and have a trial by jury... sometimes they win and sometimes they lose. That you don't agree with the outcome does not change it.
It is 98° F and climbing here in West Linn while it is only 74° F in Huntington beach. Keep a cool head, you have no reason to be hotheaded today, but I do which is why I am staying inside where it is 75° with the central air going full blast.
You really aren’t that fucking smart are you? Or are you just naive?
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You really aren’t that fucking smart are you? Or are you just naive?
Yes, I am really that smart.
How many times have you served on jury duty?
Were you in on the interviews for these Portland jurists or otherwise personally know any of jurists in the Ngo lawsuit? Have any of the jurists been interviewed in the media since their decision and if so, did you see or hear the interview. Maybe it is just that you don't believe in the U.S. judicial system wherein defendants have the option of their case being heard by a jury or by a judge. Do you know that Andy Ngo’s lawsuit dramatically changed in scope since he first filed it three years prior?
Did you know that these attacks left Ngo with a brain injury and landed him in the hospital overnight, his lawsuit claims, (In the hospital overnight; that must have been a whopper of a brain injury ::). Did you know that a concussion is considered a traumatic brain injury? Have you ever had a concussion? Did you go to the hospital? If so, did they keep you overnight?
Are you aware that in the lawsuit Ngo Andy Ngo listed five people by name and another 50 “John Does”... and another defendant named in the lawsuit was Rose City Antifa, an amorphous and largely anonymous group of anti-fascists.
Is Ngo appealing the Jury's decision? "A decision is given by the judge or the jury. Either party may appeal the decision—and if a party is still unhappy with the decision of the appellate court, may ask for further appellate review."
Is it at all possible you may have jumped to a conclusion or formed an opinion without knowing all the details of Ngo's civil lawsuit? In the future you might want to consider doing a little bit of research before posting to hopefully add some legitimacy or at least believability to your statements.
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Yes, I am really that smart.
How many times have you served on jury duty?
Were you in on the interviews for these Portland jurists or otherwise personally know any of jurists in the Ngo lawsuit? Have any of the jurists been interviewed in the media since their decision and if so, did you see or hear the interview. Maybe it is just that you don't believe in the U.S. judicial system wherein defendants have the option of their case being heard by a jury or by a judge. Do you know that Andy Ngo’s lawsuit dramatically changed in scope since he first filed it three years prior?
Did you know that these attacks left Ngo with a brain injury and landed him in the hospital overnight, his lawsuit claims, (In the hospital overnight; that must have been a whopper of a brain injury ::). Did you know that a concussion is considered a traumatic brain injury? Have you ever had a concussion? Did you go to the hospital? If so, did they keep you overnight?
Are you aware that in the lawsuit Ngo Andy Ngo listed five people by name and another 50 “John Does”... and another defendant named in the lawsuit was Rose City Antifa, an amorphous and largely anonymous group of anti-fascists.
Is Ngo appealing the Jury's decision? "A decision is given by the judge or the jury. Either party may appeal the decision—and if a party is still unhappy with the decision of the appellate court, may ask for further appellate review."
Is it at all possible you may have jumped to a conclusion or formed an opinion without knowing all the details of Ngo's civil lawsuit? In the future you might want to consider doing a little bit of research before posting to hopefully add some legitimacy or at least believability to your statements.
No, you’re not…last I checked jury tampering is a crime and it seems the fake “justice system” up there let her get away with it.
Lawyer says 'I AM ANTIFA' and vows to remember jurors' faces during Andy Ngo trial: transcript”
https://thepostmillennial.com/must-read-full-transcript-of-lawyer-declaring-i-am-antifa-and-vowing-to-remember-jurors-faces-during-andy-ngo-trial
The Post Millennial has obtained the full-transcipt of the defense lawyer's closing statements in investigative journalist Andy Ngo's jury trial against Rose City Antifa and its affiliated members, which confirms our prior reporting that the attorney had declared to the jurors "I am Antifa" and vowed to "remember their faces."
Defense attorney Michelle Burrows, who argued on behalf of alleged Antifa defendants John Colin Hacker and Elizabeth Renee Richter, made the comments to the jurors on Tuesday after the jury had informed Judge Sinaplasai that they were afraid of being doxxed, and had reported that people were allegedly trying to find out their identities.
Burrows' comments sent a shockwave across the nation which resulted in speculation about whether or not Ngo was given a fair trial, and if her comments would constitute grounds for a mistrial.
The following are excerpts from the full transcript of defense attorney Michelle Burrows' closing statement, in which Burrows declared "I am Antifa," said she will remember the jurors' faces, and claimed resitance has never been peaceful.
"There is a villain here in this case. And I don't think it's Antifa," Burrows said. "This case is not about Antifa. Antifa stands for antifascist. It is for folks who believe that fascism, that dictatorships, that the oppression of people is wrong."
"Antifascists started with the fight against true good and true evil. And now Antifa is now being painted as that horrible scourge, that monster that is going to destroy democracy as we know it. That's a little extreme, isn't it?" Burrows questioned.
"I'm going to get a T-shirt when this trial is over that says: 'I am Antifa.' Because I believe that the conflict between all of these people, all of these beliefs is what makes our country great. It makes democracy better," Burrows claimed to the jury. "We are a country founded on differences. We are a country that promotes speech from the very beginning. And resistance in this country has never been peaceful."
The defense attorney told the jury that Antifa militants had so strongly disagreed with senior editor of Post Millennial Andy Ngo that they were "willing to beat him."
"Any of you who are students of the Revolutionary War and leading up to the Civil War with the abolitionists know that violence permeated all of those. Does that mean that we're a violent people? Or does it mean when things get so bad, when conflict becomes inevitable, that we resort to our baser selves. Because that's what we saw happen to Mr. Ngo. We saw people who so strongly disagreed with this gentleman, that they were willing to beat him," Burrows claimed. "Not just beat him, but chase him through downtown Portland, tackle him, hit him."
Ms. Burrows then attacked Ngo's credibility and falsely claimed that the world renowned journalist spreads "little bits of misinformation" which has created a "rage machine that has generated so much revenue for Mr. Ngo."
"Mr. Ngo's conduct is not pristine here," Burrows said. "Nobody on the jury has a complete pristine presentation. All of the heroes we see now in the movies or in great books have flaws. They have vanity. They have weaknesses. And we all do. Everybody does. But what do you do with those weaknesses?" Burrows questioned. "Mr. Ngo has the right to pursue these events as he sees them. And he does. But does he do it for a higher cause?"
"I'm not a big fan of what he advocates. I'm not a big fan of what Mr. Ngo writes about. But it is his right to believe it, to hold those truths. He does not have the right, then, to do things that cause harm to other people," Burrows said. "And neither do those black-clad invisible cowards had the right to do what they did to Mr. Ngo."
Ms. Burrows told the jury that Ngo needs to take responsibility for his reporting since social media is not regulated by the federal government. The attorney explained that Ngo's reporting on Antifa has resulted in both the defendants and defense witnesses receiving "abuse" and "death threats."
"This is not a First Amendment case, folks. The First Amendment only protects us as against the government. It doesn't protect us in our private interaction was each other. So while Mr. Ngo has the First Amendment right to say and do what he wants on Twitter, there are no restrictions that the government has been willing to place on people on social media," Burrows explained.
While speaking on her retirement and explaining to the jury that this is her last trial, Burrows said in conclusion, "I have tried a lot of cases. I have been with a lot of jurors. And I'm going to remember every one of your faces when you leave here."
On Tuesday, the jury found defendants Hacker and Richter "not liable" on the allegations levied against them in Ngo's complaint, which had accused the defendants of assault, battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress over multiple incidents that began in 2019, in which Ngo had been physically beaten by alleged members of Rose City Antifa in Portland, Oregon.
Defendants Hacker and Richter, otherwise known as Rose City Antifa's alleged "doxxers," were accused of doxxing Andy Ngo to black bloc Antifa militants which resulted in the journalist being physically beaten on May 28, 2021, before he had escaped to a nearby hotel to seek refuge.
The jury trial was held at the Multnomah County Courthouse in Portland, Oregon.
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You are right Coach, jury tampering is a crime. If what defense attorney Michelle Burrows said to the jury is ruled jury tampering then an appeal should be forthcoming, right? Check back with me when Ngo files and wins an appeal based on what his attorney said to the jury.
I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you can answer for me.
1. Do you have any thoughts on why Ngo waited the better part of a week to report the incident to authorities? It can't be because he was in the hospital because he was only in the hospital overnight.
2. If Ngo limited the lawsuit to the people, he says attacked him instead of suing all of Antifa, would his chances of winning the suit have been better? Also, do you think he did this on his attorney's advice?
I am sure you already know this but so is witness tampering a crime, (witness tampering can take many forms including asking someone to disobey a subpoena, not testify, to lie, or testify in a particular matter. It can also include threatening, intimidating, influencing, coercing, and even bribing witnesses) here are a couple of examples of this:
Revisiting Trump’s long history of trying to influence witnesses, here are a couple of examples:
After the FBI raided Cohen’s home and office, Trump publicly defended him and said he didn’t think Cohen would “flip.” A lawyer close to Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani emailed Cohen saying that he should “sleep well” because “you have friends in high places.” Cohen told investigators that another Trump lawyer had said he’d be fine, and maybe get a pardon, if he stayed on message.
A Trump lawyer left a voicemail for the lawyer representing Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, on the eve of Flynn’s decision to plead guilty and cooperate with Mueller. Mueller scrutinized the voicemail as potential obstruction by Trump, because his attorney seemed to suggest that Flynn could stay in Trump’s good graces if he stayed friendly with Trump’s team.
Trump once ordered his White House Counsel Don McGahn to publicly lie about his efforts to fire Mueller. Federal prosecutors concluded that there was “substantial evidence” that this incident was obstruction of justice, because McGahn was a key witness against Trump, who later gave firsthand testimony about how Trump handled the Russia probe.
More recently, Donald Trump has been accused of witness tampering in the Georgia election case where an indictment against the former president is expected this week.
Trump posted this on Truth Social, “I am reading reports that failed former Lt Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn’t.”
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You are right Coach, jury tampering is a crime. If what defense attorney Michelle Burrows said to the jury is ruled jury tampering then an appeal should be forthcoming, right? Check back with me when Ngo files and wins an appeal based on what his attorney said to the jury.
I have a couple of questions that I am hoping you can answer for me.
1. Do you have any thoughts on why Ngo waited the better part of a week to report the incident to authorities? It can't be because he was in the hospital because he was only in the hospital overnight.
2. If Ngo limited the lawsuit to the people, he says attacked him instead of suing all of Antifa, would his chances of winning the suit have been better? Also, do you think he did this on his attorney's advice?
I am sure you already know this but so is witness tampering a crime, (witness tampering can take many forms including asking someone to disobey a subpoena, not testify, to lie, or testify in a particular matter. It can also include threatening, intimidating, influencing, coercing, and even bribing witnesses) here are a couple of examples of this:
Revisiting Trump’s long history of trying to influence witnesses, here are a couple of examples:
After the FBI raided Cohen’s home and office, Trump publicly defended him and said he didn’t think Cohen would “flip.” A lawyer close to Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani emailed Cohen saying that he should “sleep well” because “you have friends in high places.” Cohen told investigators that another Trump lawyer had said he’d be fine, and maybe get a pardon, if he stayed on message.
A Trump lawyer left a voicemail for the lawyer representing Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, on the eve of Flynn’s decision to plead guilty and cooperate with Mueller. Mueller scrutinized the voicemail as potential obstruction by Trump, because his attorney seemed to suggest that Flynn could stay in Trump’s good graces if he stayed friendly with Trump’s team.
Trump once ordered his White House Counsel Don McGahn to publicly lie about his efforts to fire Mueller. Federal prosecutors concluded that there was “substantial evidence” that this incident was obstruction of justice, because McGahn was a key witness against Trump, who later gave firsthand testimony about how Trump handled the Russia probe.
More recently, Donald Trump has been accused of witness tampering in the Georgia election case where an indictment against the former president is expected this week.
Trump posted this on Truth Social, “I am reading reports that failed former Lt Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn’t.”
lol….and right back to Trump. As for the questions you asked about Ngo, why don’t don’t you go to his attorney’s and ask for the initial interview(s) as for an appeal. If his attorneys ask for an appeal, what do think the chances are the judge will be willing to ask this attorney to recuse herself then get her disbarred for jury tampering and intimidation?
Like all of the Trump indictments, if these were tried in politically neutral courts this would be a slam dunk. Also back to Trump, a certain fake dossier and fake “Russian Collusion” comes to mind.
Next time link your sources
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At the conclusion of journalist Andy Ngo's multi-day civil trial against Rose City Antifa, whose far-left militant members brutally beat the investigative reporter when he went undercover to expose Antifa's extremist activities on the riot-torn streets of Portland, a 12-person jury reached a verdict in the case Tuesday evening, reportedly finding both of the defendants not liable for all claims.
The Post Millennial's senior editor—represented by attorney Harmeet Dhillon's nonprofit Center for American Liberty—sought almost $1 million in damages in a lawsuit accusing the co-defendants of assault, battery, theft, and intentional infliction of emotional distress over a series of violent Antifa attacks beginning in 2019, when Ngo was hospitalized for a brain hemorrhage.
In closing statements, defense counsel Michelle Burrows told the jurors that not only does she self-identify as an "anti-fascist," she strongly declared, "I am Antifa," and insisted upon making herself an "I am Antifa" t-shirt, which the activist attorney said she would wear after the trial. In spite of Antifa's well-documented history of violence, Burrows told the jury that Antifa's unfavorable reputation is untrue and depicted the organized militants as activists fighting for social justice and civil rights. "Resistance in this country has never been peaceful," Burrows argued in defense of Antifa, admitting that Ngo's tormenters were, in fact, "terrorists."
Rather than taking the time to provide evidence as to why the defendants should be free of liability, Burrow instead defended anti-fascism and attacked Ngo's credibility as a journalist. Burrows also told jurrors that she "will remember each one of their faces."
Before jury deliberation commenced, Judge Chanpone Sinlapasai announced that the jurors have raised safety concerns about being "doxxed" and claimed that people have been trying to identify them, according to a Post Millennial report by Seattle-based correspondent Katie Daviscourt. Prior to the trial's conclusion, Sinlapasai issued court orders banning the public and non-credentialed press from the courtroom for the duration of Ngo's jury trial as it was underway in Multnomah County Circuit Court. The judge's decision was made due to multiple in-court disruptions since the trial began on July 31 as well as security issues.
On the final day of the trial, both Ngo and his colleague Daviscourt, who has been providing day-by-day coverage, were harassed by Antifa's associates. Ngo was heading into court while Daviscourt was threatened inside the courthouse as the jury sat down to deliberate. "Get in the elevator with us," one of the co-defendants, joined by two others, told Daviscourt in a threatening tone, calling her a multitude of names. "Why won't you get in the elevator with us? We want you in here."
Ngo's legal team had hoped the landmark case would hold lawless Antifa extremists accountable. Dhillon, alongside Ngo's fellow journalists and supporters, took to Twitter to weigh in on the jury's decision, expressing widespread outrage over the outcome:
On the highly anticipated trial's penultimate day, the court had ruled in the defense's favor when it came to witness testimony.
Attempting to undermine Ngo's reputation, the defense called controversial Portland State University professor Alexander Reid Ross, who proudly identifies as Antifa, to the stand Monday as a so-called "expert" on "far-right" media, which he claimed includes Ngo, whom he smeared as a "rage inducer" and "provocateur" without evidence to back his defamatory statements.
Although Ngo's team objected to Ross being a witness on the basis of relevancy, the judge overruled the objection.
A fellow of the Centre for Radical Right Analysis, Ross's work has appeared in left-wing mainstream outlets such as VICE, The Washington Post, and The Daily Beast, where his writings feature favorable coverage of Antifa. Ngo's counsel revealed during cross-examination that Ross's reporting is allegedly too extreme even for the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center, which had retracted an article by Ross after he had falsley identified individuals as white nationalists, white supremacists, and anti-Semites.
Ross opines on the far-left online news site, It's Going Down, defending and praising anti-fascist collectives, including Rose City Antifa. "It is great to see all of the Antifa groups springing up, the first I think was Rose City Antifa..." Ross stated in an article.
Ross, the author of a 400-page book titled "Against the Fascist Creep," has compared conservatives to the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), suggested that leftist activists need to be "militant" to maintain control while discussing his book at the Orange County Anarchist Book Fair in 2017, and urged the audience to "get their hands dirty" when confronted with "fascism," The Post Millennial reports.
On the same day as Ross's "expertise" testimony, one of the alleged Antifa attackers broke down in tears as he testified before the jury and confessed to the crimes he's accused of, according to The Post Millennial's reporting. Weeping on the witness stand Monday, alleged Antifa-affiliated defendant John Colin Hacker told Ngo that watching what happened to him was "heartbreaking."
Hacker apologized to Ngo, mentioning how Ngo was forced to flee the country to start a new life abroad and was left unable to take care of his elderly parents because of the displacement. Hacker said it "hit home" for him, because he was unable to right his wrongs with his own father before he had passed away. Telling a personal story of triumph, in which he has overcome opioid addiction after suffering third-degree burns to 79 percent of his body, Hacker said he became an addiction counselor with a bachelor's in public health and a master's in criminology and criminal justice. Now, Hacker claims he's just a stay-at-home dad.
As for his Antifa activism, allegedly one of Antifa's "doxxers," Hacker said he is a social justice activist and citizen journalist who possesses a special "skillset" at identifying individuals clothed in covert attire such as non-identifying black bloc, which black-clad Antifa activists often don as an evasive tactic to conceal themselves when carrying out political violence. Hacker, during deposition, testified that his primary role on the scene is to "identify right-wingers" who infiltrate Antifa-associated activist events.
When cross-examined about using Twitter to dox political opponents, Hacker testified: "I feel like it's important that people know there is a lot of right-wingers that infiltrate, and so, any time that happens, I note it on Twitter." Though he considers himself "anti-fascist," Hacker said he doesn't embrace the phrase "Antifa," because he claimed it is "used to discredit left-wing protesters." At protests, Hacker stated he is on "cop watch," looking for police officers to alert protesters about law enforcement's whereabouts.
Back in May 2021, when Ngo returned to doing on-the-ground reporting, Ngo wore black clothing to hide his identity while covering a Rose City Antifa-organized direct action, an event that "broke my client," Ngo's lawyer Dorothy Yamamoto argued.
Hacker was the first to approach and identify Ngo that night, leading to Ngo being physically beaten by a pursuing Antifa-led mob until he sought refuge inside The Nines hotel in downtown Portland, Oregon, narrowly escaping, Ngo's civil complaint alleges.
In sworn testimony, Hacker recalled that shortly after accosting Ngo, he had spoken to co-defendant Elizabeth Richter, who allegedly broadcasted Ngo's location on a livestream, doxxed the journalist on Twitter, and encouraged others to assault Ngo.
Outside the hotel, Richter is heard screaming on video, "I can't wait for you to come out, Andy!" and "You thought the milkshakes were bad last time? We are going to beat the f*ck out of you, b*tch!" On Twitter, Richter then thanked a "bad*ss f*cking comrade" for identifying Ngo following the vicious and seemingly coordinated late-night attack. However, Hacker testified that he was unaware of whom Richter was referring to in her tweet, and Richter insisted that she doesn't remember whom she was thanking.
Video evidence allegedly shows Hacker visible on surveillance footage roaming with the Antifa mob after Ngo was assaulted. In one clip, an Antifa radical is seen speaking to Hacker and placing a hand on his shoulder in what Ngo's legal team described as a "congratulatory" manner. On the stand, Hacker asserted that he did not witness the assaults and does not know who Ngo's attackers were despite being a self-proclaimed identification specialist. Ngo's team alleged that Hacker and Richter know the identities of Ngo's assailants and are covering for the culprits, thus preventing Ngo from bringing his attackers to justice.
In the aftermath of the attack, Ngo testified that he started publishing less of his own writing, explaining that he was unable to write "because of the triggers" like "flashback moments" of "legs in black surrounding me" and Antifa "screaming my name."
"The physical pain was worse," Ngo said on the stand. "Everyday activities for months was physically painful and the triggers from this attack were way more severe. I kept thinking about that near-death experience, how these people pinned me down, beat me, and nobody helping me, with hotel staff not calling 911, it was isolating and triggered my experiences of depression."
Regarding a prior unprovoked May 2019 altercation at the gym, where Hacker admittedly assaulted Ngo and forcibly took his phone out of his hand, Hacker acknowledged pouring a liquid on Ngo and stealing his cellular device, showing remorse for his "inappropriate" actions and claiming he "acted on impulse." Upon spotting Ngo at the 24-Hour Fitness location, Hacker remembered thinking, "F*ck this guy," before the assault. That was "not an appropriate way to address my irritation," Hacker said.
Ngo testified that the gym incident with Hacker was when "I started to become scared being in Portland." Ngo added: "This was me just living my private life on a regular day. Someone who recognized me at the gym that I thought was a safe place to be."
In June 2019, Ngo covered another event organized by Rose City Antifa, a viral incident caught on camera that showed Ngo being repeatedly punched, kicked in the head, hit with placards, and doused with "concrete-infused" milkshakes. Ngo required a hospital stay to treat his brain bleed, in addition to months of therapy. Ngo testified that he had to see a cognitive, physical, and occupational therapist following the attack and saw a psychologist for the trauma he was experiencing, which resembled PTSD.
Ngo, the son of Vietnamese refugees, also disclosed in his Day One testimony that Antifa radicals doxxed his phone number and home address, where his parents lived, and that all of his family's private information had been posted online by far-left actors.
In mid-July, the court granted an order of default against co-defendants Jacob Christian Evans, Madison Lee Allen, and Corbyn/Katherine Belyea, who were also named in Ngo's lawsuit. The judge will likely decide liability for damages post-trial.
Evans, whose legal name was changed amid pending litigation to Sammica Overkill Schott-Deputy (an anti-police statement meaning "shot deputy") and whose gender legally became "non-binary," arrived at the courthouse Monday despite being found in default, which excluded the defendant from the jury trial. The repeat arrestee with a violent criminal past across several counties has attested to "undergoing surgical, hormonal, or other appropriate treatment for the purpose of affirming gender identity.”
Earlier last month, Rose City Antifa was dismissed from Ngo's lawsuit on grounds that it's "not a discreet entity under common law" and therefore cannot be sued nor served as an unassociated identity. Though, the individual defendants were still suable.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/08/09/andy-ngo-antifa-trial-hacker-testimony-n2626762
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https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1686080791640788993?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://x.com/katiedaviscourt/status/1686621246837186560?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1687569275928854531?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://x.com/tpostmillennial/status/1687570014885605376?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://x.com/katiedaviscourt/status/1688956864233652224?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
https://x.com/mrandyngo/status/1689122508052770816?s=46&t=XiPzOUmtpsEiVS5zhlJE2g
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Finally, Some Accountability: Antifa Members Ordered to Pay Andy Ngo $300,000 in Damages
Journalist Andy Ngo has been investigating and calling out Antifa for many years. Because of it, he's come under all kinds of attack from them. Most notably, he was beaten by Antifa actors in Portland, Oregon, in June 2019, in the "milkshake" incident. They threw projectiles at him and hit him with plywood hard-edged sign placards and carbon-hardened tactical gloves. He was severely injured and suffered a brain injury.
This video shows part of the attack, where he was being hit and assailed with projectiles.
Now he's finally gotten a notable win in that 2019 incident.
One of his attorneys, Harmeet Dhillon, who was representing him via the Center for American Liberty, announced the win. She said they'd reached a settlement with one defendant and gotten default judgments against three others, although two "escaped justice." As we previously reported, two were found not liable in a wild trial where the defense attorney told the jury she was Antifa and would "remember" their faces. But now Ngo and his team are celebrating the win against the others.
The court rendered an award for Ngo against the three defendants who were in default of $300,000—to be split equally among the three defendants, Corbyn "Katherine" Belyea, Madison "Denny" Lee Allen, and Sammich Overkill Schott-Deputy. (formerly Joseph Evans).
Ngo called it a "vindication" for what they did to him. He acknowledged that it might be a challenge to get the money from the three because of their "history of evasion." He thanked the Center for American Liberty and his attorneys, including his lead attorney, Dorothy Yamamoto, for helping to hold them accountable for trying to "violently silence" his "First Amendment rights." He said that he would continue to hold Antifa accountable for their violent actions.
It's been a challenge holding Antifa accountable, particularly in a place like very liberal Portland, Oregon. It seems like they don't suffer much punishment for all the things that they have done. Cases often seemed to be dismissed or not even pursued by liberal prosecutors, regardless of the evidence against the Antifa actors. And that just emboldened Antifa into thinking that they could get away with things.
By this action, Ngo has shown Antifa that they can't get away with everything — that at least in a court of law, they will be held accountable, whether or not he can collect from them. He beat them, and they can't get around that. That will infuriate them perhaps even more than the monetary award. Now they will have to think twice about consequences, even in very liberal Portland.
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/08/22/antifa-finally-has-to-pay-up-with-court-win-by-andy-ngo-n2162905
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Next time link your sources
Why bother? Links to sources won't change your thinking. Actually, nothing will. Your mind is 'cooked'.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/leader-richmond-democrat-party-group-posts-online-bomb/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=leader-richmond-democrat-party-group-posts-online-bomb&fbclid=PAAaamHe67I5BVFC96IKoecoYLg8DC3Fc9jsvke3QjV_L3Qg7gw6md4uFNYso_aem_AQ5keLMyFqH1tSf__c8hnE4aQbWUzK4xY3YkPy5UXFQw0wDiTHAT8MmbB9QkGNCKH9c
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How now Trumpturds can't tell the difference between cement and milkshakes? Not surprised.