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a calorie is a calorie?
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
I believe you could still change your bodies composition, even with a surplus. The problem with the calorie is a calorie theory is it doesn't take into account hormonal changes due to diet and insulin sensitivity. A diet full of breads, sugars, starches etc will leave you looking like a mashed potato. You're not going to recupe and grow on a diet without some protein. A 'calorie is a calorie' is not accurate at all. Then there's issues like inflammation and gut health which are affected by what kinds of calories you're consuming.
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If it smells like fish...
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a calorie is a calorie?
I don´t agree because obviously some food sources are not going to make you unhealthy & some are known to do the opposite.
Eat shit you´ll look like it.. skin tone complection, etc
Eat a bad diet & juice... eventually a heart attack
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His own theories didn't do meth head any good. He ended up fat and sloppy looking.
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His own theories didn't do meth head any good. He ended up fat and sloppy looking.
It doesn´t matter who you like or dislike, all of them took drugs & other things.
By all accounts he had bad problems but he did open peoples eyes to another way of training & he built a great physique ;)
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It doesn´t matter who you like or dislike, all of them took drugs & other things.
By all accounts he had bad problems but he did open peoples eyes to another way of training & he built a great physique ;)
He built his physique using conventional methods, not hit. And yes, his dietary recommendations are ludicrous. It left him fat and sloppy looking.
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Mike tried to make simple things like "dieting" sound very technical, just to seem smarter than anyone else...
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fuck protein.... am I right?
just eat 3000 calories of carbs and fats baby $$$
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You would look great on a diet of only margarine and sugar...
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;D
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Mike tried to make simple things like "dieting" sound very technical, just to seem smarter than anyone else...
Fucked myself up last MON (back) over-stretching/over extending on Reverse Hypers. hmmm...
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Mike Mentzer would have put all these Youtubers bodybuilding influencers in to shame (including Greg Douchete) if he was around today
WooooSHHHHHHHHHH HEAVYDUTY
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why does this shit keep popping back up ??
all these young kids thinking this shit is revelavent to today - its piece mil - you cherry pick though the old school shit and try to make sense out of it
bodybuilding is basic - most dudes nowadays dont want to do the work and damn sure CANNOT and WILL NOT diet with the commercials , Taco Bell around the corner, Wendy's and moms credit card , chick fill a by our work - getbiggrs boyfriends like to eat the ice cream so you have to indulge as well
just get a meal plan and stick to it JUST LIKE YOU DO TRAINING - most guys can't do that for more than 2 weeks so they dig up old bullshit and post irrevalant shit with all the science and nutritional knowledge of today - you'd just rather cop out and figure if you 'FAST' all day you can just goto Taco Bell and blow your asshole out - cause 1500 calories is 1500 right ?? Jesus christ
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two guys one guy eats chicken, tuna, eggs, fish, the other guy eats the same amount of calories but all the calories are coming from cakes and cookies who will look better and feel better, drugs excluded ????
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
And the lower carbs lowers one's insulin levels, hence less fat is acumulated.
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A calorie is a calorie:
A unit of energy, often used to express the nutritional value of foods, equivalent to the heat energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 °C, and equal to one thousand small calories; a kilocalorie.
However, the nutritional value of the food eaten is where the real differences between different foods is the value I think most of us are speaking about. If you ate 10,000 calories a day of "clean" food and did nothing but lounge about in your toga, you would still get FAT as if you ate 10,000 calories a day of junque food.
So yes. A calorie is pretty much a calorie but what you do with it along with its nutrional value is what makes the difference. Like all things there is a balance in eating to be individually determined. For a healthier life one should eat a balanced diet and avoid junqe foods as much as possible.
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A calorie is a calorie:
A unit of energy, often used to express the nutritional value of foods, equivalent to the heat energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 °C, and equal to one thousand small calories; a kilocalorie.
However, the nutritional value of the food eaten is where the real differences between different foods is the value I think most of us are speaking about. If you ate 10,000 calories a day of "clean" food and did nothing but lounge about in your toga, you would still get FAT as if you ate 10,000 calories a day of junque food.
So yes. A calorie is pretty much a calorie but what you do with it along with its nutrional value is what makes the difference. Like all things there is a balance in eating to be individually determined. For a healthier life one should eat a balanced diet and avoid junqe foods as much as possible.
I would say it´s more a case of what it does to your body inside :) not just outside
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
CICO is valid only when hormones are controlled. Since the "CO" part of the equation is tightly linked to an extremely complex system of hormones individuals can never accurately assess this energy balance unless hormones are controlled. Hormones are directly affected by food quality and quantity. There are people gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time, due to injecting hormones. This should indicate that hormones have a far more powerful impact on body composition than caloric balance. But endocrinology is extremely poorly understood and one of the youngest anatomical sciences so this is to be expected.
Dr Ben Bikman did a very good lecture on CICO on youtube but I can't seem to find it. But essentially the Layne Norton type of fixation on a reductionist idea of counting calories being all that matters is stupid.
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why does this shit keep popping back up ??
all these young kids thinking this shit is revelavent to today - its piece mil - you cherry pick though the old school shit and try to make sense out of it
bodybuilding is basic - most dudes nowadays dont want to do the work and damn sure CANNOT and WILL NOT diet with the commercials , Taco Bell around the corner, Wendy's and moms credit card , chick fill a by our work - getbiggrs boyfriends like to eat the ice cream so you have to indulge as well
just get a meal plan and stick to it JUST LIKE YOU DO TRAINING - most guys can't do that for more than 2 weeks so they dig up old bullshit and post irrevalant shit with all the science and nutritional knowledge of today - you'd just rather cop out and figure if you 'FAST' all day you can just goto Taco Bell and blow your asshole out - cause 1500 calories is 1500 right ?? Jesus christ
Diet , weight training is basic & people over complicate it all
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I believe you could still change your bodies composition, even with a surplus. The problem with the calorie is a calorie theory is it doesn't take into account hormonal changes due to diet and insulin sensitivity. A diet full of breads, sugars, starches etc will leave you looking like a mashed potato. You're not going to recupe and grow on a diet without some protein. A 'calorie is a calorie' is not accurate at all. Then there's issues like inflammation and gut health which are affected by what kinds of calories you're consuming.
^^^^ THIS
two guys one guy eats chicken, tuna, eggs, fish, the other guy eats the same amount of calories but all the calories are coming from cakes and cookies who will look better and feel better, drugs excluded ????
BINGO
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Mentzer on meth. Consume all the amphetamines you want. You'll be ripped to shreds. You can eat whatever you want, you'll just never want to eat.
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Mike said he would burn fat even though he was eating carrot cake
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Mike said he would burn fat even though he was eating carrot cake
he left the chip pan on....
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he left the chip pan on....
Bro...
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The discussion ignores the satiety effects of the macros. No one ever got fat eating egg whites and skinless chicken breast. You can’t eat a surplus of just protein. So, that leaves Fats and carbs. Most high calorie palatable foods have a combo of both: Pizza, Ice Cream, Burger and Fries, Cake, Cookies.
IMO, it’s better to target carbs as you wouldn’t eat butter or cream cheese straight but you can eat a lot of bread.
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
This^
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He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?
So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?
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So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?
A calories is a measure of energy potential if you will, not an indicator of nutritional value. You already know the answer to your silly query.
So if you continue to eat shit, will you gain credence for your idiocy because the wisdom of a fool is still "wisdom" in your eyes, huh?
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A calories is a measure of energy potential if you will, not an indicator of nutritional value. You already know the answer to your silly query.
So if you continue to eat shit, will you gain credence for your idiocy because the wisdom of a fool is still "wisdom" in your eyes, huh?
Nope. Now, answer my question.
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Nope. Now, answer my question.
I have. You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest. In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.
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I have. You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest. In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.
You haven't. Answer the question.
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So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?
Yes, you would lose weight if the calories were low. There was a university experiment where a professor ate nothing but ice cream for over a month and he lost weight, his blood pressure and cholesterol improved as well. It wouldn't be healthy and you'd feel like shit but you would lose weight.
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Yes, you would lose weight if the calories were low. There was a university experiment where a professor ate nothing but ice cream for over a month and he lost weight, his blood pressure and cholesterol improved as well. It wouldn't be healthy and you'd feel like shit but you would lose weight.
But not all of it fat. Losing weight and losing bodyfat are too different things. People who lose weight end up looking like a smaller version of their fat selves. Skinny fat.
Losing bodyfat is maintaining lean body tissue while eating foods that will help in building/maintaining muscle whole doing a combination of weight resistance and cardiomif needed.
So a calorie isn't just a calorie. Nutrients play an important part too.
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But not all of it fat. Losing weight and losing bodyfat are too different things. People who lose weight end up looking like a smaller version of their fat selves. Skinny fat.
Losing bodyfat is maintaining lean body tissue while eating foods that will help in building/maintaining muscle whole doing a combination of weight resistance and cardiomif needed.
So a calorie isn't just a calorie. Nutrients play an important part too.
You asked for an example.
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You asked for an example.
Yes but the point was a calorie is not a calorie when it comes to building muscle and losing fat which old meth head was claiming.
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Yes but the point was a calorie is not a calorie when it comes to building muscle and losing fat which old meth head was claiming.
But almost no one would ever eat an all sugar diet. A typical diet of different foods will suit anyone except those in the last few weeks of a contest diet. Mentzer was crazy but his 800 calorie a day diet was way crazier than his "calorie is a calorie" idea.
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But almost no one would ever eat an all sugar diet. A typical diet of different foods will suit anyone except those in the last few weeks of a contest diet. Mentzer was crazy but his 800 calorie a day diet was way crazier than his "calorie is a calorie" idea.
But they would according to methzer because a calorie is a calorie, right? 😃
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I have. You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest. In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.
Yes I'm sure it has the mental age of a child
Scan through it's postings all about Yates & mike he hates them
post's all sort's of here'say & it's only response when questioned
/asked to back what it's saying is -" Yates/ Mentzer/HIT fanboy &
your're triggered by truth " ::)
I can't & dont speak 1st hand about Mike as I didn't know him - I can speak 1st hand about Dorian as I did Know Him
& trained at his Gym , also know many who he's helped at PRO level
in UK & members of his Team who helped & advised him.
Yet RIM JOB 1001 knows nobody. ::)
Personally I don't remotely care how Dorian or Miked trained,
Yet This Fucking Moron is obsessed about it. ::)
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Yes I'm sure it has the mental age of a child
Scan through it's postings all about Yates & mike he hates them
post's all sort's of here'say & it's only response when questioned
/asked to back what it's saying is -" Yates/ Mentzer/HIT fanboy &
your're triggered by truth " ::)
I can't & dont speak 1st hand about Mike as I didn't know him - I can speak 1st hand about Dorian as I did Know Him
& trained at his Gym , also know many who he's helped at PRO level
in UK & members of his Team who helped & advised him.
Yet RIM JOB 1001 knows nobody. ::)
Personally I don't remotely care how Dorian or Miked trained,
Yet This Fucking Moron is obsessed about it. ::)
Still triggered. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
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As an aside, I saw a vid in which Mentzer talks about tricep training and he he said to do push downs with a V bar, a straight bar but NOT A ROPE. He never explained why rope push downs are so horrible.🤔
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Still triggered. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
Your still an imbecilic moron
Unable to answer simple questions-
Keep posting your Baby girl Triggered replies , idiot.
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Your still an imbecilic moron
Unable to answer simple questions-
Keep posting your Baby girl Triggered replies , idiot.
I've answered and you're still triggered. You big baby 👶
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I've answered and you're still triggered. You big baby 👶
You've answered Fuck All.
As you don't have any 1st hand knowledge or experience.
Go find another Muscle Mag article as Fact / Truth ::)
Did you Answer
Had you been to Dorians gym in the late 80s& 90's
Had you ever have a conversations with Dorian in his gym
Do you know any of UK PRO's personally that he advised
Who were Dorian's advice Team / help team.
These are just a few of the things you've Spouted your mouth off about
& Yet haven't answered a single one.
OH I KNOW BABY GIRL - IS TRIGGERED AGAIN. ::)
Back up what you say or admit you don't know its all 5th hand info.
Simple.
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You've answered Fuck All.
As you don't have any 1st hand knowledge or experience.
Go find another Muscle Mag article as Fact / Truth ::)
Did you Answer
Had you been to Dorians gym in the late 80s& 90's
Had you ever have a conversations with Dorian in his gym
Do you know any of UK PRO's personally that he advised
Who were Dorian's advice Team / help team.
These are just a few of the things you've Spouted your mouth off about
& Yet haven't answered a single one.
OH I KNOW BABY GIRL - IS TRIGGERED AGAIN. ::)
Back up what you say or admit you don't know its all 5th hand info.
Simple.
I've answered many times. The fact that you get easily triggered by facts I've stated, some facts were proven by using quotes from Dorian himself, is hilarious. And the best part is you're still in denial. You're just a kid throwing a big tantrum. It's a joy to see 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
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I've answered many times. The fact that you get easily triggered by facts I've stated, some facts were proven by using quotes from Dorian himself, is hilarious. And the best part is you're still in denial. You're just a kid throwing a big tantrum. It's a joy to see 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
I'm not the one avoiding answering ;D
That is you......
Try answering instead of avoiding- post it up , Kiddo.
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I'm not the one avoiding answering ;D
That is you......
Try answering instead of avoiding- post it up , Kiddo.
Because I haven't asked you anything. 🙄
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Because I haven't asked you anything. 🙄
You still haven't answered.
Me if its something I don't know 1st hand I'd say so.
VERY SIMPLE - Simple enough you're Childish Brain.
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You still haven't answered.
Me if its something I don't know 1st hand I'd say so.
VERY SIMPLE - Simple enough you're Childish Brain.
I did and I was right. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
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I did and I was right. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂
When ? Repost your post Then
That's simple enough even for you
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When ? Repost your post Then
That's simple enough even for you
What? You can't look back on past posts? You need assistance for even that simple task. I bet you get spoon fed too. 🤣
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What? You can't look back on past posts? You need assistance for even that simple task. I bet you get spoon fed too. 🤣
What you can't re post your own posts ::)
🤣😂🤣
To difficult for you or they don't exist
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I’ll take Mentzer’s advice and see how it works out:
1. Don’t do cardio.
2. Do six sets a week.
3. Because of the lack of volume and cardio, need to eat less than 2,200 calories a day to remain lean as a middle-aged man with a sedentary job.
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I’ll take Mentzer’s advice and see how it works out:
1. Don’t do cardio.
2. Do six sets a week.
3. Because of the lack of volume and cardio, need to eat less than 2,200 calories a day to remain lean as a middle-aged man with a sedentary job.
Better make it under 2,000 calories.
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Better make it under 2,000 calories.
Yes, like 1800, and feel like garbage.
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What you can't re post your own posts ::)
🤣😂🤣
To difficult for you or they don't exist
Get you're guardian to help you with looking up my past posts. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃
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I’ll take Mentzer’s advice and see how it works out:
1. Don’t do cardio.
2. Do six sets a week.
3. Because of the lack of volume and cardio, need to eat less than 2,200 calories a day to remain lean as a middle-aged man with a sedentary job.
Why? You'll only get small, weak and unfit.
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Get you're guardian to help you with looking up my past posts. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂 😃
You made the accusations The Onus is on you to back your stories up.
Note the others asking you to do the Same........
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Why? You'll only get small, weak and unfit.
Right. His recommendations suck.
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Yes, like 1800, and feel like garbage.
Mike used meth to overcome that feeling.