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And thats why I do double-overhand during deadlifts... Ouch..
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Ouch.
Did these injuries happen decades (60s-70s) ago with the same frequency?
I don't recall it but perhaps we now do with social media.
Most of these tears happen using heavy weight but not all.
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And thats why I do double-overhand during deadlifts... Ouch..
That and milder weights.
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I think it has a LOT to do with the massive amount of drugs taken year 'round by many lifters that started taking them if not right away then not very long after first starting weight training.
The comment that they have no real foundation is especially true with regard to tendon strength which appears to take more time to establish and is perhaps better done as a genuine natural.
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That and milder weights.
Im sure I could still tear it pulling 500, which I do regularly...
But I dont use that mixed grip... Looks like one guy tore it while only using a 45 a 35 and a 25 per side... Dehydration doesnt help in some cases.
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If your arm is full straight then the bicep muscle isnt even engaged
all the tension is on the tendon
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If your arm is full straight then the bicep muscle isnt even engaged
all the tension is on the tendon
if this is true why do people stretch muscles?
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if this is true why do people stretch muscles?
Post me a video of someone tearing a bicep when their arm is not straight...Ill wait
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Post me a video of someone tearing a bicep when their arm is not straight...Ill wait
Constant overuse — sports that require repetitive movement on the bicep in the shoulder or elbow can cause a bicep tear or strain. Acute injury — moving or twisting your elbow in an unfamiliar way can cause a bicep tear or strain, for example, falling on an outstretched arm.
so again i pose my question why would stretching not cause a tear? :)
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Constant overuse — sports that require repetitive movement on the bicep in the shoulder or elbow can cause a bicep tear or strain. Acute injury — moving or twisting your elbow in an unfamiliar way can cause a bicep tear or strain, for example, falling on an outstretched arm.
so again i pose my question why would stretching not cause a tear? :)
an extended arm the bicep is at full extension, it has nowhere else to go add weight and it will snap
Biceps never seem to tear at the upper insertion point, why do you think that is?
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an extended arm the bicep is at full extension, it has nowhere else to go add weight and it will snap
Biceps never seem to tear at the upper insertion point, why do you think that is?
I´ve answered your question ..read it again. think about it. :D
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I´ve answered your question ..read it again, you can read can you?
ditto
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ditto
Nope you asked for an example & i gave you it.
A bicep can tear in a straight stretch :)
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Nope you asked for an example & i gave you it.
A bicep can tear in a straight stretch :)
show me an example...
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show me an example...
read my post again. think about it. :D
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I tore my bicep completely off and it rolled up to my shoulder. The surgery and the rehab wasn't fun. Took around five to six months to get full strength back. The doc told me if you get it fixed immediately as in a five day window the tendon hasn't "rotted" and the anchor point is fresh. He sewed it back on with metal anchors and I believe the tendon reattached in time.
I still dead with an alternate grip but I never go heavy anymore. This happened about 20 years ago. When I told the doc six months after I tested it with 405lbs dead he was pissed. He told me I was going to ruin the repair. It has held up. 315lbs for six reps after training lats is about my max for the last couple of years. I think it's time to go to a double over hand with a hook grip or straps with a lighter weight. For some reason it feels awkward deadlifting with a double over grip. With my health issues I'm going to lighten what I do and use techniques to make a light weight heavy.
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I hate watching these kinds of videos.
Makes me afraid to "push it" (nh) in the gym.
Maybe that's a good thing.
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I had a distal bicep tendon tear in an industrial accident. Rolled up to my shoulder like a window blind. Other than the scar from surgery to repair it, you'd never be able to tell. 100% recovery.
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Is it true that if your ex-wife tries to get her child back from your kidnap attempt and pulls the car door open while you resist this can tear your bicep?
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Is it true that if your ex-wife tries to get her child back from your kidnap attempt and pulls the car door open while you resist this can tear your bicep?
If true, this video needs to be added to the compilation.
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Is it true that if your ex-wife tries to get her child back from your kidnap attempt and pulls the car door open while you resist this can tear your bicep?
No,but it can tear a pec !
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No,but it can tear a pec !
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Any “sheered off the bone” triceps tear compilations floating around the interwebz ???
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Overhand grip deadlifts for me, wearing straps, I don't wanna injure my biceps
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That's why I do preacher curls at the end of workout and go light.
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Was that dude DB curling the 5lb'ers joking or did he seriously tear his biceps doing that?
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Sedentary fat fucks don't have these problems.
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I tore the outer head of my bicep at the shoulder and my rotator cuff at work. Had them repaired 3 weeks later. Was a tough recover, but stronger than before now.
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If your your forearm is strongly directed away from the midline ( excessive cubitus valgus) and/if you have the ability to extend your elbow beyond normal (elbow recurvatum), then forget about pulling with a mixed grip.
Be also very cautious with your range of motion during arm training. Same thing with pullups/pulldowns.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrsRXH7K/Screenshot-20230819-181541.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q9g4Lr6/Screenshot-20230819-181507.jpg)
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If your your forearm is strongly directed away from the midline ( excessive cubitus valgus) and/if you have the ability to extend your elbow beyond normal (elbow recurvatum), then forget about pulling with a mixed grip.
Be also very cautious with your range of motion during arm training. Same thing with pullups/pulldowns.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrsRXH7K/Screenshot-20230819-181541.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q9g4Lr6/Screenshot-20230819-181507.jpg)
Brutal.
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Hit, according to Yates, is the most efficient way to train. Yeah right. 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣
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Hit, according to Yates, is the most efficient way to train. Yeah right. 😂 😃 😄 😁 🤣
Using a double underhand grip to pick up a 465lbs loaded bar off the floor to perform barbell rows is the most efficient way to destroy your biceps.
Sick of grown ass men obsessively arguing about whatever training system their muscle-heroes used or did not use....
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Using a double underhand grip to pick up a 465lbs loaded bar off the floor to perform barbell rows is the most efficient way to destroy your biceps.
Sick of grown ass men obsessively arguing about whatever training system their muscle-heroes used or did not use....
It´s just fucking Gay love Bro.. :D
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It´s just fucking Gay love Bro.. :D
Only if you want it to be
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I had a co-worker that went to mount a maybe 20lb box on a wall and tore his bicep clean off. He let out a scream like Tarzan going full chimp-out!
In a fall from a roof top down a long stairwell I tore every front muscle/tendon off the bone on my right leg but due to my condition I did not feel a thing and kept working.
I always used relatively light weight except those times I did H.I.T. and Dinosaur training but always warmed up properly for fear of getting injured regardless of training style. I cannot imagine the agony of such an injury.
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I had a co-worker that went to mount a maybe 20lb box on a wall and tore his bicep clean off. He let out a scream like Tarzan going full chimp-out!
In a fall from a roof top down a long stairwell I tore every front muscle/tendon off the bone on my right leg but due to my condition I did not feel a thing and kept working.
I always used relatively light weight except those times I did H.I.T. and Dinosaur training but always warmed up properly for fear of getting injured regardless of training style. I cannot imagine the agony of such an injury.
Didn´t Lee priest say recently that he injured his bicep while walking his dog?
injuries occur at the most innocent times..reaching for something & straining.
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Using a double underhand grip to pick up a 465lbs loaded bar off the floor to perform barbell rows is the most efficient way to destroy your biceps.
Sick of grown ass men obsessively arguing about whatever training system their muscle-heroes used or did not use....
He also tore his rotator cuff, triceps (twice), his quad, forearms, so yes it was his training system that destroyed him.
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Too much full range of motion
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He also tore his rotator cuff, triceps (twice), his quad, forearms, so yes it was his training system that destroyed him.
I dont give a fuck about "training" systems. What I care about are simple concepts of movement and a basic comprehension of physics ( torque, lever arm, moment of force etc.)
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I dont give a fuck about "training" systems. What I care about are simple concepts of movement and a basic comprehension of physics ( torque, lever arm, moment of force etc.)
Hit has caused many injuries. Yates being one. Mark Dugdale also sustained injuries from blood and guts training. A torn quad and pec tear convinced him to go back to traditional high volume training.
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Hit has caused many injuries. Yates being one. Mark Dugdale also sustained injuries from blood and guts training. A torn quad , inverted penis and pec tear convinced him to go back to traditional high volume training.
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Hit has caused many injuries. Yates being one. Mark Dugdale also sustained injuries from blood and guts training. A torn quad and pec tear convinced him to go back to traditional high volume training.
To be fair, volume trainers tear muscles as well.
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Hit has caused many injuries. Yates being one. Mark Dugdale also sustained injuries from blood and guts training. A torn quad and pec tear convinced him to go back to traditional high volume training.
Mark Dugdale’s least of his worries is training blood and guts style
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Ouch.
Did these injuries happen decades (60s-70s) ago with the same frequency?
I don't recall it but perhaps we now do with social media.
Most of these tears happen using heavy weight but not all.
I think, without seeing any data, that most bicep tears occur outsiide the gym. Moving stuff, falling and catching yourself. This one hasn't been linked to steroid use as strongly as pec tears, not to say steroids can't make it mire likely. I read one paper 20 years ago about bicep tears and I can't remember any mention of steroids. The average age when tearing it was 36 years, fwiw lol.
As oldtimer said, it should be operated on quickly. However it can sometimes be operated on successfully even after many weeks. This happened to me last year. Accident at work, then like 3 months waiting around for surgery. Thanks to socialised medicine here. They tried to discourage surgery but I insisted, said it was life or death for me lol. You can recover most strength even without surgery a lot of times but I don't want that shriveled up Dorian arm.
Orthopedic doctors said STEROIDS! the first thing when they saw me. "This is what happens!" They warned me that if they let me have surgery I could not take any steroids afterwards.
The biceps is still attached and I did use steroids the whole time after surgery. They can probably hurt recovery in some situations but I didn't care enough. There is an uncomfortable sensation in the tendon sometimes, lost a little superficial feeling in my forearm but that has resolved a lot as nerves grow back. The surgeon told me that 16 weeks after surgery you should stress it with max weights. "I'm being careful when lifting doc." "No, you should lift as much as possible without jerking the weight, the goal is complete recovery to previous strength levels."
I had deadlifted at least 300kg most weeks for like 12 years straight, with a mixed grip. Like someone said, it's important to keep the supinated arm completely straight throughout the movement. A lot of times you see deadlifters, especially the less experienced ones, bending the arm ever so slightly when lifting. You should try to get away from this natural tendency by being concious of it until it becomes natural without thinking. If you want to be as safe as possible.
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Using a double underhand grip to pick up a 465lbs loaded bar off the floor to perform barbell rows is the most efficient way to destroy your biceps.
Sick of grown ass men obsessively arguing about whatever training system their muscle-heroes used or did not use....
Bro...