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Title: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: obsidian on August 23, 2023, 10:56:39 AM
Not a 20-story balcony this time. Probably had a nice chat with Putin who wished him well on his travels...

https://www.rt.com/russia/581729-wagner-chief-plane/

Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
Evgeny Prigozhin was listed on board the Embraer Legacy that crashed with no survivors, authorities have reported

A private jet traveling from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed on Wednesday in Russia’s Tver Region. The Russian Emergencies Ministry said all 10 people on board had died. Rosaviation has since said that Evgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner Private Military Company, was listed among the passengers.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: affeman on August 23, 2023, 11:02:50 AM
Pure chance ;D
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 23, 2023, 11:10:02 AM
Supposedly this guy runs two planes in the air at the same time and his other one is headed back to Moscow.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Hulkotron on August 23, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
Unfortunate accident
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Taffin on August 23, 2023, 11:17:56 AM
No tin foil hat me - but surely if you've openly threatened one of the most powerful men in the world, your OPSEC precludes you putting your name on a public* manifest???

Maybe he's off to South America for plastic surgery and retirement..?


*And so open to BUK targeting
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 11:24:25 AM
Supposedly this guy runs two planes in the air at the same time and his other one is headed back to Moscow.

Correct

It just landed safely. Another Embraer Legacy 600 business jet with aircraft registration number RA-02748 (  Prigozhin's )

The registration number of the crashed one was RA-02795 ( also Prigozhin's )

No tin foil hat me - but surely if you've openly threatened one of the most powerful men in the world, your OPSEC precludes you putting your name on a public* manifest???

Maybe he's off to South America for plastic surgery and retirement..?


*And so open to BUK targeting

He was allegedly aware of the risks of assasination he faced, so he never disclosed which plane he took.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 11:37:39 AM
The Moscow Times claims that the plane crashed 50km away from Putin's residence in Valday ( Novgorod Oblast. ), a place equipped with four divisions of S-300 mobile missile systems.

1 division is comprised of 12 mobile missile launchers

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/S-300_-_2009_Moscow_Victory_Day_Parade_%282%29.jpg/1920px-S-300_-_2009_Moscow_Victory_Day_Parade_%282%29.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 12:10:33 PM
Meanwhile, a Russian military IL-76 just landed in Belarus
( a cargo aircraft capable of carrying 145-220 heavily armed soldiers. It can also ship a variety of military vehicles or equipment.)

The last time such an aircraft landed in Belarus was more than a month ago

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLn89tRQ/Screenshot-20230823-210259.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 23, 2023, 12:13:56 PM
The mudak had it coming.  You just don't fuck with Putin.  He 's buried more bodies than a Chinese cemetery
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 12:16:57 PM
The mudak had it coming.  You just don't fuck with Putin.  He 's buried more bodies than a Chinese cemetery

hahahahahaha
Vince, you caught me off guard here, Im in tears  ;D
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: falco on August 23, 2023, 12:39:09 PM
I am with Putin on this. Still, i believe he probly had a face change and its still alive.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 01:15:55 PM
Meanwhile, a Russian military IL-76 just landed in Belarus
( a cargo aircraft capable of carrying 145-220 heavily armed soldiers. It can also ship a variety of military vehicles or equipment.)

The last time such an aircraft landed in Belarus was more than a month ago

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLn89tRQ/Screenshot-20230823-210259.jpg)

Internet is out in both the village of Tsel and the district of Asipovichy ( Wagner camps are located there )

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4Ftjr27/Screenshot-20230823-221043.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 23, 2023, 01:16:17 PM
Interesting.   I predicted in the past it would be poison.  So either Putin decided to get creative and switch things up or the guy decides his best course of action is to fake his death and hang out with Elvis, Tupac, and Jim Thompson.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Kwon on August 23, 2023, 01:23:34 PM
You don't mess with Putin. Period
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
The Federal Air Transport Agency officially released the passenger list of the crashed plane

(https://i.postimg.cc/kM6n9D2F/20230823-222124.jpg)


I already mentionned Dmitry Utkin in an older post


It's all a bunch of horseshit

Forget about Wagner's little publicity stunt.

There is a man in the shadows who controls everything Prigozhin "owns."

That man is an ex-Spetsnaz GRU operative named Dmitry Utkin, also known as Dmitry Wagner, with very close ties with Putin

He can be seen here in 2017

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0mL5YW7/20230629-170403.jpg)

(https://static.espreso.tv/uploads/article/2491813/images/im-1_kanal_red.jpg)

Utkin is a 4x recipient of the Order of Courage

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Order_of_Valour_%28rus%29.jpg)

Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Kwon on August 23, 2023, 01:30:57 PM
Wait what, Dmitry too?
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
This is what Wagner's HQ building looks like right now ( located in St.Petersburg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MGHGQ5pg/IMG-20230823-223039-112.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 01:37:57 PM
Interesting.   I predicted in the past it would be poison.  So either Putin decided to get creative and switch things up or the guy decides his best course of action is to fake his death and hang out with Elvis, Tupac, and Jim Thompson.

I would go with the latter, but only with Putin's blessing ( which means they'll kill him later anyway.)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 23, 2023, 01:43:05 PM
Who's killed more. Putin or the Clintons?

Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: illuminati on August 23, 2023, 01:46:51 PM
Not a 20-story balcony this time. Probably had a nice chat with Putin who wished him well on his travels...

https://www.rt.com/russia/581729-wagner-chief-plane/

Wagner chief among passengers on crashed plane – officials
Evgeny Prigozhin was listed on board the Embraer Legacy that crashed with no survivors, authorities have reported

A private jet traveling from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed on Wednesday in Russia’s Tver Region. The Russian Emergencies Ministry said all 10 people on board had died. Rosaviation has since said that Evgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner Private Military Company, was listed among the passengers.

Were the Clinton's involed in any way ??   ;D
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 23, 2023, 03:31:33 PM
Unfortunate accident

This.😂😂
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: IroNat on August 23, 2023, 03:33:47 PM
How you say in Russian:"Shit happens"?
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Skeletor on August 23, 2023, 03:34:01 PM
Did these guys really die or are they "dead" so they can they now assume other identities and continue their work? Especially Utkin.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 23, 2023, 03:34:20 PM
I said it in the other thread, but how on earth did this guy think he was going to continue on after his mutiny, without being a target for assassination? Fucking a, the balls on these people sometimes.

Putin cleaning house.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 23, 2023, 03:39:13 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: IroNat on August 23, 2023, 03:39:56 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this

Ha-ha...good one, Vince.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 23, 2023, 03:47:05 PM
😁
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 04:35:25 PM
How you say in Russian:"shit happens"?

byvaet ( бывает)

Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 04:46:23 PM
I said it in the other thread, but how on earth did this guy think he was going to continue on after his mutiny, without being a target for assassination? Fucking a, the balls on these people sometimes.

Putin cleaning house.

My guess is Utkin and him were either between a rock and a hard place ( foreign Intelligence or even competing factions in the Kremlin promised them they had their back ).....or this was all staged.

Two thing are for sure :

1) You don't fuck with Putin

2) He never, ever, ever forgives anyone ( even when he does )
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 05:14:33 PM
General Surovikin has just been relieved from his duties as Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces....

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLL1Scgq/hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gi-fs.gif)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 23, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this

  ;D  ;D

Venom Vince is on fire lately
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: a_pupil on August 23, 2023, 05:43:42 PM
Kremlin insiders report that President Putin is struggling to process the tragedy of his close friend's accidental death.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 23, 2023, 06:53:10 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this

lol ;D
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 23, 2023, 06:53:45 PM
😁


lmao
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: illuminati on August 23, 2023, 06:54:15 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this


😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Skeletor on August 23, 2023, 09:17:24 PM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this

Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 23, 2023, 10:39:59 PM
Who's killed more. Putin or the Clintons?

That 51% vs 49% is teetering...
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 23, 2023, 11:27:52 PM
I said it in the other thread, but how on earth did this guy think he was going to continue on after his mutiny, without being a target for assassination? Fucking a, the balls on these people sometimes.

Putin cleaning house.

Maybe he didn't think that. Where could he have hid anyway?
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 24, 2023, 01:24:32 AM
  ;D  ;D

Venom Vince is on fire lately

😂😂

Finally, a case where they really dindu nuthin’.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: falco on August 24, 2023, 01:28:04 AM
Interesting.   I predicted in the past it would be poison.  So either Putin decided to get creative and switch things up or the guy decides his best course of action is to fake his death and hang out with Elvis, Tupac, and Jim Thompson.

I believe the way they were killed was a message to others.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 24, 2023, 01:31:06 AM
I hope they find the two black guys that did this
Good drink. Or is that White Russian?
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 26, 2023, 08:34:11 PM
(https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/370011373_688985859938165_5840544053802139344_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=SIOKM3JJum8AX9MK7PW&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AfBpOZnqY4po_znKAB4PHz39AldAg5LBme_fn5CaCxvKdQ&oe=64F01110)
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 27, 2023, 01:50:04 AM
(https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/370011373_688985859938165_5840544053802139344_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640&_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=SIOKM3JJum8AX9MK7PW&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AfBpOZnqY4po_znKAB4PHz39AldAg5LBme_fn5CaCxvKdQ&oe=64F01110)
:D Haha!
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 27, 2023, 01:51:25 AM
Stray missile. It happens.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2023, 02:09:43 AM
Of course Putin okayed it. Now they're all acting like there needs to be an investigation. Like some Putin-fan did this with some military hardware without Putin's knowledge. Ridiculous.

The whole Prigozhin saga was such an embarassment for Putin. That Putin let them march towards Moscow, and then let them leave is in my opinion due to them knowing this could ignite a civil war and the whole regime might come down. They were lucky that it played out like it did, they were prepared to eat some shit for this conclusion.

But Putin even met with Prigozhin recently if the reports are true. How embarrassing.

The other Putin assassinations were very amateurish in my opinion too. Like Navalny survived their attempt. Putin was like "the guy would have been dead if we decided so, it wasn't us," meanwhile they admitted a team of assassins were following him everywhere. You'd think that they wouldn't fail but through someone's incompetence they failed.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: mops on August 27, 2023, 10:38:17 AM
Of course Putin okayed it. Now they're all acting like there needs to be an investigation. Like some Putin-fan did this with some military hardware without Putin's knowledge. Ridiculous.

According to the International Civil Aviation Organization, an investigation must be conducted by the Russian Interstate Aviation Committee, in the presence of the aircraft's manufacturer, Embraer S.A.

Something tells me they are going to blame external actors. The jet supposedly carried a bomb onboard. At the same time witnesses reported hearing two distinct explosions before the jet crashed. A typical air defence manoeuver - shoot two rockets to make sure you hit the target.

Who knows.

The whole Prigozhin saga was such an embarassment for Putin. That Putin let them march towards Moscow, and then let them leave is in my opinion due to them knowing this could ignite a civil war and the whole regime might come down. They were lucky that it played out like it did, they were prepared to eat some shit for this conclusion.

But Putin even met with Prigozhin recently if the reports are true. How embarrassing.

The whole point of that conflict was not about freedom and justice, but business as usual. RF was seeking full control of the assets and leadership of the Private military company. Wagner's leadership was furious about that.

Wagner contractors were paid x5-x6 more than members of the regular army, and, contrary to what Prigozhin's claimed, were supplied with absolutely everything they needed by the Russian Federation ( ammo, equipement, spare parts etc.) - which is illegal, according to international law.

The military company is active in 10 African coutries, providing local leaders with combat and protection forces, strategic planning, operational and logistical support, procurement and maintenance of powerful weapons platforms ( including tanks and attack helicopters etc.)

In exchange Wagner was granted access to vast natural ressources for export and trade. The PMC mainly exported Sudanese gold to Russia as well as diamonds and wood from the Central African Republic to the Emirates and China.

About 5000 contractors were/are active on African soil.

The companie's growing influence in Africa rubbed Putin the wrong way, which led to his ultimatum : all PMC officers must sign a contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, de facto subjugating them fully to Russia.

As we speak, G.R.U. operatives are actively assuming command of Wagner's African network. Prior to his Prigozhin's assasination, African leaders were instructed not to conduct business with him anymore.

The other Putin assassinations were very amateurish in my opinion too. Like Navalny survived their attempt. Putin was like "the guy would have been dead if we decided so, it wasn't us," meanwhile they admitted a team of assassins were following him everywhere. You'd think that they wouldn't fail but through someone's incompetence they failed.

I disagree.

The whole point of Navalny's poisoning was to humiliate him, weaken him and obviously, make him suffer. Many failed to see this display of GRU's dark humour.

Regarding why Navalny is still alive today, my guess is that he is a member of an influent, competing faction in the Kremlin.

He's bee recently sentenced to 19 years of reclusion in a maximum security prison - a place where convicted murderers, rapists etc. are sent. Those facilities are....very brutal to say the least.

They are going to make him pay until his last breath.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 28, 2023, 08:35:05 AM
You have to admit that Putin is a fucking bad ass.   He blew that fucking airplane up right out in the open and wiped out the leaders of Wagner in one swoop.   That was some strict up mob shit.  He was sending a message to the remaining people in Wagner to not fuck around again or find out.

Of course, they are still looking for the 2 black guys but those mudaks must have been 3 sheets drunk on Popov to even think about fucking with him....much less actually stage a rebellion.   Even Sleepy Joe warned them to watch their backs.   

Guess that's the end of the Wagner Group, prob will disband now
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Raymondo on August 28, 2023, 09:39:10 AM
Fuck him.

Putin next. Gaddafi style.
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Kwon on August 28, 2023, 09:41:50 AM
Zelensky next, Funkytown-style
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: GymnJuice on August 28, 2023, 10:46:21 AM
You have to admit that Putin is a fucking bad ass.   He blew that fucking airplane up right out in the open and wiped out the leaders of Wagner in one swoop.   That was some strict up mob shit.  He was sending a message to the remaining people in Wagner to not fuck around again or find out.

Of course, they are still looking for the 2 black guys but those mudaks must have been 3 sheets drunk on Popov to even think about fucking with him....much less actually stage a rebellion.   Even Sleepy Joe warned them to watch their backs.   

Guess that's the end of the Wagner Group, prob will disband now

Our politicians are much more efficient. Just take care of them while they're in their cell. No need to ramp up expenses with blown up airplanes.

 ;D
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 03, 2023, 04:14:11 PM
Putin thinks they were doing drugs and accidently pulled a pin on a hand grenade.🙄


He should have just said that they are still looking for the teo black guys
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: illuminati on November 03, 2023, 05:42:32 PM
Is He still Dead ??
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: visualizeperfection on November 03, 2023, 05:53:13 PM
Putin thinks they were doing drugs and accidently pulled a pin on a hand grenade.🙄


He should have just said that they are still looking for the teo black guys

Are there blacks in Russia?
Title: Re: RIP Wagner Boss - Evgeny Prigozhin - Plane Crash...
Post by: Marvin Martian on November 03, 2023, 10:50:51 PM
You don't mess with Putin. Period

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape…
You don’t spit into the wind….
You don’t pull the mask off the ole Lone Ranger….
And
You don’t mess around with Putin!!!