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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TK on April 29, 2006, 02:37:49 PM
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So we see the ads - Gamma-O, with 7 sponsored athletes under their belt, including Tammy Pies, Assuerio Silva, Jeremy Horn, Chris Cook, Andrei Arlovski, Drew Fickett and Jorge Gurgel - a mixture of bodybuilders, figure and MAM fighters. But they did forget to pay these athletes?
Acocrding to sources, Gammo-O has taken the low road, and is refusing to pay the people who are under contract with thim. This is complete bull, and everyone should know how they are treating people.
They told the athletes that they are out of money, so they a hike, we won't pay you what we owe you.
Damn, someone should sue these executives that lie.
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Does Chris Cook use Gamma-O in the offseason?
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i've never even seen a Gamma-O product in person - their ads look pretty cheap too . . .
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Does Chris Cook use Gamma-O in the offseason?
are there more pics from that set?
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The Cookie Monster!
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The Cookie Monster!
OMFG.................tha t's unretouched? (no photoshopping to make him look really really bad?)
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Monster cankles!
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No, those are real. He did a few guest poses completely clean and untrained after turning pro. Word is, his guts took a beating getting that pro card, and that's why he cannot reproduce his winning condition at the pro level. Who knows.
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No, those are real. He did a few guest poses completely clean and untrained after turning pro. Word is, his guts took a beating getting that pro card, and that's why he cannot reproduce his winning condition at the pro level. Who knows.
I still think he's got it in him - he should have taken last year off though to rest and get a chest or a back
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MAnnnnn.... that looks bad
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show promoters/potential sponsors see those pics..................
might cost him some guest posings/endorsements
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He looks great in contest condition. He took a lot of heat on the boards after doing that guest posing. He also refunded that promoter's check for the evening, a class move.
I don't think we'll ever see Cook in ripped shape again. He's going to try for 2 years, then fade. His dream is to be a poor man's Bobo Chick, and he's on his way!
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Sad to say that happens alot profit isnt as big as they predicted and they bail out
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Sad to say that happens alot profit isnt as big as they predicted and they bail out
Yeah, Weider put a lot of $ into him and giftwrapped his pro card, but he just isn't built for it. He'll do fine as a Cali PT or something similar.
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I've seen Chris guest pose here in Chicago a couple times and he was always in decent 'guest-posing' shape...
Those pics though...OMG, I'm embarassed looking at them...wow! I'm all about sticking up for competitors and I'm not into mud-slinging or anything like that but...hey, at least he gave the promoters check back. That was a smart move on his part.
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Worst part is that
Chick some mods will delete that pic every time it's posted.
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Wow. That sucks if it's true. How will Chris Cook be able afford his gear without sponsorship?
Oh well, there's always MuscleGallery.....
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DAM!!!!! i know its offseason but not only is cook out of shape he looks to be carrying about 20lbs lee mass!
wat happened???
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DAM!!!!! i know its offseason but not only is cook out of shape he looks to be carrying about 20lbs lee mass!
wat happened???
He was probably cleaning out his system...which is very smart.....more pro's need to take some time off the juice, just like the Arnold days....
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Does Chris Cook use Gamma-O in the offseason?
The weirdest part is the fat/loose skin in his lower back. Why?
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It's true.
I just got off thephone with Chris and he confirmed they are not going to honor their 5 year contract with him because they claim they are out of money.
He said he'll try to sue to get what is owed and they said,"Go ahead." :o
S. Ray
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It's true.
I just got off thephone with Chris and he confirmed they are not going to honor their 5 year contract with him because they claim they are out of money.
He said he'll try to sue to get what is owed and they said,"Go ahead." :o
S. Ray
Until Chris gets his conditioning down and lives up to some of that sweetheart hype that Bob Chick has been giving him, sponsors won't be lining up to pay him.
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240 your missing the point. :-\
His contact wasn't base don wher ehe places or how he looks.
There are others affected like UFC EX Champ, Andre Arlovski.
All their athlete simply will not receive checks anymore.
Chris has a right to be pissed
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It's true.
I just got off thephone with Chris and he confirmed they are not going to honor their 5 year contract with him because they claim they are out of money.
He said he'll try to sue to get what is owed and they said,"Go ahead." :o
S. Ray
Shawn, you know how things work in this industry....In your opinion,will it do him any good to take them to court?Is he just wasting his time and money?
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Oh, hell yes he does! I agree with you there. Sucks that firms can just bail. Best things athletes can do is get as much $ up front, always be on the phone with the next endorsement offer, and keep line-extending their name.
Would be interesting to know the names of the individuals behind the GammaO mess, so when they're back in a year offering a deal to a new guy with a new company, the word can be out on them. Sucks if they get to keep screwing over ppl in the same field, over and over.
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Oh Chris is pissed alright. I'm sure Gamma-o will see their day in court and be used as an example for every other unethical company. Gammo-o is not handling this situation right no matter what thier so called "investors" said.
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As the president of Gamma-O I would like to tell you all the Chris Cook Story. Let me start by saying we pay all of our athletes and we have never been unfair to any of them. In fact we just added Phil Baroni and Razor Rob to our stable of winners. No one other then Chris has ever been let go. I like Chris as a person and think he is a great guy. I have no animosity toward him.
Gamma-O and Muscular Development were drawing a contract between us and Chris. MD and Gamma-O never signed the deal yet we at Gamma-O were paying him for the use of his picture until the deal was finalized. When I started this whole thing with Chris he was 230 pounds and has not lifted a weight in 8 months. He sold me on the fact that his body needed the rest and he was going to come back bigger, harder and better then ever before. I saw the fire in his eyes and I believe that he would.
During the course of negotiating he came in dead last 3 shows in a row including the Arnold. I spoke to Chris about his conditioning after the first show (IronMan) and offered to hire the services of John O’reagan who helped me when I was competing as well as some top ranked pros that Chris knew. Chris said he had it under control and then came in soft for every show. I see the potential in Chris and think he will go far in the sport when he learns to dial in. I can not afford to pay someone while they are learning. MD was first to back out then without them we could not afford Chris on our own. We have many athletes on our team and all are getting paid.
I would also like to say I spoke to Jimmy Mentis on the phone and explained the whole thing to him. I cant believe he would write that BS on here without calling me first. That's not his style so I doubt thats really him. Jimmy if you have an issue with me you have my number dont be scared to call me.
John Napolitano
President
Gamma Enterprises LLC
www.GammaO.com
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He looks great in contest condition. He took a lot of heat on the boards after doing that guest posing. He also refunded that promoter's check for the evening, a class move.
I don't think we'll ever see Cook in ripped shape again. He's going to try for 2 years, then fade. His dream is to be a poor man's Bobo Chick, and he's on his way!
A poor man's Bob Chick? I had no idea there was a rich man's Bob C......... :-\
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As the president of Gamma-O I would like to tell you all the Chris Cook Story. Let me start by saying we pay all of our athletes and we have never been unfair to any of them. In fact we just added Phil Baroni and Razor Rob to our stable of winners. No one other then Chris has ever been let go. I like Chris as a person and think he is a great guy. I have no animosity toward him.
Gamma-O and Muscular Development were drawing a contract between us and Chris. MD and Gamma-O never signed the deal yet we at Gamma-O were paying him for the use of his picture until the deal was finalized. When I started this whole thing with Chris he was 230 pounds and has not lifted a weight in 8 months. He sold me on the fact that his body needed the rest and he was going to come back bigger, harder and better then ever before. I saw the fire in his eyes and I believe that he would.
During the course of negotiating he came in dead last 3 shows in a row including the Arnold. I spoke to Chris about his conditioning after the first show (IronMan) and offered to hire the services of John O’reagan who helped me when I was competing as well as some top ranked pros that Chris knew. Chris said he had it under control and then came in soft for every show. I see the potential in Chris and think he will go far in the sport when he learns to dial in. I can not afford to pay someone while they are learning. MD was first to back out then without them we could not afford Chris on our own. We have many athletes on our team and all are getting paid.
I would also like to say I spoke to Jimmy Mentis on the phone and explained the whole thing to him. I cant believe he would write that BS on here without calling me first. That's not his style so I doubt thats really him. Jimmy if you have an issue with me you have my number dont be scared to call me.
John Napolitano
President
Gamma Enterprises LLC
www.GammaO.com
Did his contract say that he had to place in the top 10 or 5 all the contests he entered and did it specifically say that the contract would be null and void if he didn't place in a certain place?
If not then your statements on Getbig are only another sucker punch to add to the mistreatment of your sponsered athlete.
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So does this mean Gamma O will be on sale, kinda like a fire sale?
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without having the specific contract stipulations in front of you how can you all jump on the bandwagon and assume something was done so horribly. also, any company has a right to decide to no longer employ (pay for the drugs and supps of) any athlete/employee if that person is misrepresenting the company in a negative way. cook by giving the money back to that promotor so much as admitted that he was misrepresenting himself in that condition. if you were paying a guy to look like a freak to push your product, then that guy doesnt train and doesnt look like a shadow of his former self, would you want to continue to pay for that contract?
do they have an obligation? maybe. but is this business and just the way shit goes sometimes? yes. will he fight it in court? probably. will he win? maybe. one could assume that the contract was made under the assumption of a specific condition. one that cook himself promised to come in as. and that due to his lack of that condition and subsequent lack of acceptance of assitance he breached the contract. in which case, sorry, but no money.
and as for the other athletes. dont just assume that nobody has been getting paid. unless you hear it from the mouth directly of that other person dont write it here like it is fact based. prove your point or dont try to make one. i have seen one word on sherdog about any fighters not being paid. and many MMA fighters post there. someone would have said something by now.
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Maybe you all misunderstood my last post. We never signed his contract. HE NEVER HAD A CONTRACT WITH US. I paid him to use his likeness until the contract was finalized. If you look on Sherdog you will see that I sponsored fighters that did not get paid by there other sponsors and I paid them myself and then went after the sponsors for the money.
KTFO did not pay a bunch of guys. Here's the video of me fighting him in XFO.
I am an athlete and I would never mistreat any of them. Just got off the phone with Jimmy Mentis and he told me he did not post anything negitive about us.
John Napolitano
President
Gamma Enterprises LLC
www.GammaO.com
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Maybe you all misunderstood my last post. We never signed his contract. HE NEVER HAD A CONTRACT WITH US. I paid him to use his likeness until the contract was finalized. If you look on Sherdog you will see that I sponsored fighters that did not get paid by there other sponsors and I paid them myself and then went after the sponsors for the money.
KTFO did not pay a bunch of guys. Here's the video of me fighting him in XFO.
I am an athlete and I would never mistreat any of them. Just got off the phone with Jimmy Mentis and he told me he did not post anything negitive about us.
John Napolitano
President
Gamma Enterprises LLC
www.GammaO.com
For the record, I completely understand what you have stated and agree with the decision.
Now hurry up and sign the Rhino!!!!!!!
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I would like to set the record straight as far as MD's position with the Chris Cook, Gamma-O agreement. Gamma-O and Cook negotiated and entered into an agreement and MD was not a party to that agreement. In fact, MD never entered into an agreement with Chris Cook. As part of the Gamma-O -- Cook agreement, Chris agreed that he would do a monthly column. MD did publish some of Chris Cook's columns, but when Gamma-O made the decision to no longer employ Chris as their athlete, MD had no other choice but to terminate his column. The decision to sign Chris Cook was Gamma-O's, and it was Gamma-O's decision to terminate him. As far as John Napolitano stating that MD pulled out first, that is incorrect. We had nothing to pull out of, again the contract was between Gamma-O and Chris Cook and once they decided to terminate, we could no longer continue the column. I felt it was important for MD to also set the record straight.
Steve Blechman
Publisher/Editor-in-Chief, Muscular Development
President/CEO, Advanced Research Press
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I would like to set the record straight as far as MD's position with the Chris Cook, Gamma-O agreement. Gamma-O and Cook negotiated and entered into an agreement and MD was not a party to that agreement. In fact, MD never entered into an agreement with Chris Cook. As part of the Gamma-O -- Cook agreement, Chris agreed that he would do a monthly column. MD did publish some of Chris Cook's columns, but when Gamma-O made the decision to no longer employ Chris as their athlete, MD had no other choice but to terminate his column. The decision to sign Chris Cook was Gamma-O's, and it was Gamma-O's decision to terminate him. As far as John Napolitano stating that MD pulled out first, that is incorrect. We had nothing to pull out of, again the contract was between Gamma-O and Chris Cook and once they decided to terminate, we could no longer continue the column. I felt it was important for MD to also set the record straight.
Steve Blechman
Publisher/Editor-in-Chief, Muscular Development
President/CEO, Advanced Research Press
So Gamma-O is deciding what athletes get columns in MD? I know that is probably not the case for all the athlete columns but is this a standard type deal where a supp company agrees to do advertisements in return for MD giving their sponsored athletes a column? I guess I am a bit naive as to how content was determined in your mag.