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Title: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: IroNat on September 27, 2023, 10:55:32 AM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/charging-pretty-challenging-fords-ceo-110000710.html

In the video, during which he’s seen at the wheel of a vehicle, he says that he had just been to a charging site along Interstate 5 in California, where he waited 40 minutes to get a 40% charge on his truck.

"It was a really good reality check of the challenges that our customers go through," he said.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Skeletor on September 27, 2023, 11:07:15 AM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/charging-pretty-challenging-fords-ceo-110000710.html

In the video, during which he’s seen at the wheel of a vehicle, he says that he had just been to a charging site along Interstate 5 in California, where he waited 40 minutes to get a 40% charge on his truck.

"It was a really good reality check of the challenges that our customers go through," he said.


Meanwhile government officials are oblivious to real world conditions and keep pushing the all-electric pipedream.

Cops called after Jennifer Granholm staffer uses gas-powered car to hold EV charging spot for Biden energy secretary

A Georgia family called 911 earlier this summer after a staffer for Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm used a nonelectric vehicle to hog the only open EV charging station outside a local Walmart while the Biden administration official was still en route.

Granholm, 64, was on a four-day road trip from North Carolina to Tennessee, promoting green energy with a traveling caravan of electric and nonelectric vehicles, when a member of her advance team used a gasoline-powered car to reserve a charging station for her, according to NPR, angering at least one family who had been waiting in line.

The inconsiderate practice is known as “ICEing” — a reference to the internal-combustion engines inside gasoline-powered vehicles — and is subject to a $100 fine in Washington, DC, where the Department of Energy is headquartered, but it is not illegal in Grovetown, where the June incident occurred.

“There’s literally a nonelectric car that is taking up the space, who said they’re holding the space to somebody else, and it’s holding up a whole bunch of people who need to charge their cars,” a furious woman told a 911 operator, according to the Augusta Press.

https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/cops-called-after-jennifer-granholm-staffer-uses-gas-powered-car-to-hold-ev-charging-spot-for-biden-energy-secretary/
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Gym Rat on September 27, 2023, 11:16:52 AM
A joke and a pipe-dream of the commie libturd climate retardz...
Clown at work already replaced 2 batteries on  his Prius at 10K a pop... Clowns...
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 27, 2023, 12:03:41 PM
Big electric trucks are a stupid idea , as is the notion that electric cars need to have huge battery packs and 300mile range.  Americans drive 30 miles per day on average, a smaller lighter electric vehicle with 100mile range would be plenty for many.

Instead we get electric f150s and 9000lb e-hummers that nobody really wanted
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Lartinos on September 27, 2023, 12:31:14 PM
They don’t work in the cold, limited range, charging is slow and annoying, not actually environmentally friendly, being forced by corrupt people, expensive to fix, and poor resale value because they become obsolete quickly.

Looks like only minor issues with an EV..
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Mayday on September 27, 2023, 12:45:09 PM



The end solution being put into place is combustion engines are no longer sold by 2035.

Electric cars will be priced more like 5x in today’s dollars which puts ownership out of reach.

15 minute cities are introduced meaning you have 15min walking distance from your home as your ‘quadrant’.

Meaning:
1) cars will be too expensive for people to own
2) you won’t need a car because most won’t be driving to work
3) inflation will make travel so expensive you won’t want to own a car or drive anywhere
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 27, 2023, 02:15:01 PM


The end solution being put into place is combustion engines are no longer sold by 2035.

Electric cars will be priced more like 5x in today’s dollars which puts ownership out of reach.

15 minute cities are introduced meaning you have 15min walking distance from your home as your ‘quadrant’.

Meaning:
1) cars will be too expensive for people to own
2) you won’t need a car because most won’t be driving to work
3) inflation will make travel so expensive you won’t want to own a car or drive anywhere

Having everything I need within 15 minutes walking sounds amazing.  Who likes spending 1-2hrs driving to work everyday?
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: IroNat on September 27, 2023, 02:21:28 PM
Having everything I need within 15 minutes walking sounds amazing.  Who likes spending 1-2hrs driving to work everyday?

Nobody wants to live in cities full of crime, homeless, drugs and lousy schools.

People are fleeing cities more than ever.

The 15 minute thing is not gonna happen in the U.S.

Europe is more likely.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Fortress on September 27, 2023, 02:34:21 PM
I’ll stick with my 1986 Lamborghini Countach 5000 QV downdraft.

But thanks.

These radical and delusional Libtard do-gooders have NO idea what they’re doing or where we are heading with such careless pushes.

The Joo Globalist wannabe overlords love it, though.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: 20inch calves on September 27, 2023, 02:47:52 PM
They pushing electric vehicles because it benefits them...nonothing more...they know its no better for the enviroment or more efficient. Comes down to greed and they know its not going to work long term
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Palumboism on September 27, 2023, 02:58:15 PM
Big electric trucks are a stupid idea , as is the notion that electric cars need to have huge battery packs and 300mile range.  Americans drive 30 miles per day on average, a smaller lighter electric vehicle with 100mile range would be plenty for many.

Instead we get electric f150s and 9000lb e-hummers that nobody really wanted

The 300+ miles of range eliminates rage anxiety. 



Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Fortress on September 27, 2023, 03:10:42 PM
Having everything I need within 15 minutes walking sounds amazing.  Who likes spending 1-2hrs driving to work everyday?

Not surprisingly, you’re entirely missing the bigger picture. The overreaching ramifications.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Palumboism on September 27, 2023, 03:42:55 PM
Cybertruck manufacturing confirmation happens this week.  Customer deliveries will happen in the beginning of October. 

Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Mayday on September 27, 2023, 04:10:00 PM
Nobody wants to live in cities full of crime, homeless, drugs and lousy schools.

People are fleeing cities more than ever.

The 15 minute thing is not gonna happen in the U.S.

Europe is more likely.

Loads have moved to regional areas like me. Fits way better out here. I can actually go somewhere quickly and park out front 😂

This is a rollout of future city planning so it’s not like you get locked down like in the movies. Think of it as cars and driving becomes more expensive, you spend more time at home therefore need more services around you to do your daily tasks.

You won’t think the same today as you will 5yrs from now. Just like if you live somewhere that requires $30/day in tolls and $60/day parking you will instinctively consider the costs and challenges of where you are based and look to make it simpler in another area.

This is a good thing. People ‘think’ they love being able to drive to 10 shopping centres, work, cafes, restaurants, gyms etc. once you live a life mostly at home you realise you want everything really close because it’s a headache driving to all these places.

Cybertruck manufacturing confirmation happens this week.  Customer deliveries will happen in the beginning of October. 


My neighbour has a deposit on one in Australia but they’ve closed it off. No news they’re even coming downunder. If they do we’ll be buying one.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: IroNat on September 27, 2023, 06:28:16 PM
Loads have moved to regional areas like me. Fits way better out here. I can actually go somewhere quickly and park out front 😂

This is a rollout of future city planning so it’s not like you get locked down like in the movies. Think of it as cars and driving becomes more expensive, you spend more time at home therefore need more services around you to do your daily tasks.

You won’t think the same today as you will 5yrs from now. Just like if you live somewhere that requires $30/day in tolls and $60/day parking you will instinctively consider the costs and challenges of where you are based and look to make it simpler in another area.

This is a good thing. People ‘think’ they love being able to drive to 10 shopping centres, work, cafes, restaurants, gyms etc. once you live a life mostly at home you realise you want everything really close because it’s a headache driving to all these places.

My neighbour has a deposit on one in Australia but they’ve closed it off. No news they’re even coming downunder. If they do we’ll be buying one.

I have all the shopping I could want within 5 miles of my house.

I could walk if needed but why would I want to lug groceries a few miles on foot?

There are two gyms within a couple miles.

Most Americans who live in suburbs have the same.

What we don't have or want in the suburbs is urban blight, crime, lousy schools, etc. which is what you get in the cities.

To escape the above and raise familes we move to the suburbs.

They can build all this urban housing they want but nobody who raises kids will live there because the city schools are bad.  Only singles will live there or childless people or the poor who have no choice.

There are already what they call "Town Centers" which have been built over the past decade or so.  These consist of some small shops and townhomes and condos.  This is the flavor of the month for developers to try to sell to retired or those who can't afford detached homes.

Planned communities go back 40 years but few have been successful and most are less than desirable for families compared to detached homes in suburbs.

Not sure what you mean by "regional areas" but it sounds like American suburbs.

Most American suburbs surround a city.  Each town has it's own self-funded school district.

Australia is no doubt different than the US in some ways.

Living in the suburbs I have all services within a couple miles.

Being close to work depends on who you work for and where the job is located.

Working from home is sometimes an option depending on the job.

I have neighbors who work from home and either shop locally or buy online.

My brother prefers to live way out in the country a good 40 miles from shopping but that's his choice.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 27, 2023, 07:11:10 PM
Not surprisingly, you’re entirely missing the bigger picture. The overreaching ramifications.

Feel free to elaborate, I’m sure you have some great points to make  :D
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Dave D on September 27, 2023, 08:34:18 PM
Feel free to elaborate, I’m sure you have some great points to make  :D

The idea is that this is a loss of freedom and independence. Limit your movements and travel.

The reality is it’s more of a return to a way of life people lived for thousands of years. For most of history the average person never traveled more than 30 miles from where they born (it may have even been less than that I don’t recall the exact figure).

Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Lartinos on September 27, 2023, 08:51:39 PM
15 minute cities will lead to gentrification ousting all the poor folks.

Easy fix though, just create a new vaccine that completely lobotomizes them.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: BlackMetallic on September 27, 2023, 09:22:25 PM
They don’t work in the cold, limited range, charging is slow and annoying, not actually environmentally friendly, being forced by corrupt people, expensive to fix, and poor resale value because they become obsolete quickly.

Looks like only minor issues with an EV..

Plus they’re a lot heavier. Look at the I-35W bridge collapse. When the bridge was built traffic was lighter and so were the cars and trucks

The majority of the bridge infrastructure today couldn't handle the weight increase

Then you have ice vs ev fires. Ice fires burn at 1000-1500F. Ev burns at 2500-3000F

If you’ve got a lot of ev’s burning on a bridge or tunnel…..
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 28, 2023, 12:47:57 AM
Electric vehicles. ::)
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Mayday on September 28, 2023, 01:24:14 AM

Big post


Regional means outside of metro and refers to country areas. Sorry, I thought that was a universal word.

I don’t live in the suburbs, I am classed rural. Rural means country, where the food comes from. Everything 5mins drive from home which is awesome.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Mayday on September 28, 2023, 01:31:30 AM


I don’t think many actually realise what the short term US targets mean.

The US consumes around 20M barrels oil/day and the 2030 is target is 10M barrels day of oil.

It’s 6yrs away.

US buys 15M cars of which 1M are electric. In 6yrs you can’t switch from 1M to 15M capacity while reducing energy by -50%.

That will be $9/gallon but importantly service stations will Run out of fuel which caps price to an extent.  You won’t be driving even if you can afford it because it won’t be there to buy.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: IroNat on September 28, 2023, 04:11:16 AM
Central Planning always fails.

Future predictions hardly ever come true...too many variables and X factors (the unpredictable).

Read this as proof...

(https://freshcomics.s3.amazonaws.com/issue_covers/OCT180787.jpg)
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2023, 05:25:39 AM

I don’t think many actually realise what the short term US targets mean.

The US consumes around 20M barrels oil/day and the 2030 is target is 10M barrels day of oil.

It’s 6yrs away.

US buys 15M cars of which 1M are electric. In 6yrs you can’t switch from 1M to 15M capacity while reducing energy by -50%.

That will be $9/gallon but importantly service stations will Run out of fuel which caps price to an extent.  You won’t be driving even if you can afford it because it won’t be there to buy.

Will the Arab countries stop selling oil to the U.S. or do you think oil  will be so heavily taxed so that it is unaffordable?
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Never1AShow on September 28, 2023, 05:27:54 AM
Big electric trucks are a stupid idea , as is the notion that electric cars need to have huge battery packs and 300mile range.  Americans drive 30 miles per day on average, a smaller lighter electric vehicle with 100mile range would be plenty for many.

Instead we get electric f150s and 9000lb e-hummers that nobody really wanted

Thank you for telling us what we can and cannot have.  I look forward to your thoughts on what we can or cannot say or think.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Fortress on September 28, 2023, 07:30:46 AM
Feel free to elaborate, I’m sure you have some great points to make  :D

No need to elaborate.

Intelligent folks immediately understand my comment.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Dave D on September 28, 2023, 07:43:37 AM
Thank you for telling us what we can and cannot have.  I look forward to your thoughts on what we can or cannot say or think.

Why do you need to drive more than one hundred miles a day? Seriously do you buy a box w of cereal a week when you only need one?
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: wes on September 28, 2023, 08:29:10 AM
Central Planning always fails.

Future predictions hardly ever come true...too many variables and X factors (the unpredictable).

Read this as proof...

(https://freshcomics.s3.amazonaws.com/issue_covers/OCT180787.jpg)
I have that issue.....but it`s not in pristine condition,yet neither am I !!  :D
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Never1AShow on September 28, 2023, 11:44:58 AM
Why do you need to drive more than one hundred miles a day? Seriously do you buy a box w of cereal a week when you only need one?

Are you fucking crazy?  What privileged enclave are you ensconced in?  Many many people make these kind of commutes all the time.  I used to.  It's called putting food on the table.  It's far from unheard of and add in a couple of other trips for shopping or events and you're sitting there worried about your electric dildo running out of batteries.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Never1AShow on September 28, 2023, 11:45:41 AM
I have that issue.....but it`s not in pristine condition,yet neither am I !!  :D

Stoneheaded guy reminds me of Bhanks
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: IroNat on September 28, 2023, 12:02:09 PM
I have that issue.....but it`s not in pristine condition,yet neither am I !!  :D

I used to have it.

Do you remember why Reed Richards said The Thinker's plan failed?
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: obsidian on September 28, 2023, 12:05:25 PM
They pushing electric vehicles because it benefits them...nonothing more...they know its no better for the enviroment or more efficient. Comes down to greed and they know its not going to work long term
Part of the push to keep people home-bound and unable to travel.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Mayday on September 28, 2023, 02:47:23 PM
Will the Arab countries stop selling oil to the U.S. or do you think oil  will be so heavily taxed so that it is unaffordable?

The US can produce 12M/day so it can meet the 10M/day target without imports.

It’s a US initiative so what ever plays out is US controlled. In the 70s embargos occurred against the US as a result of US initiatives with Israel.l which lead to shortages. However important to note US oil consumption still rose sharply over that decade before blowing up and dropping roughly -25%. Similar with the GFC.

The US consumes roughly -1.5% oil per day from pre pandemic. We pay roughly +50% fuel prices which are record highs. So we have 6yrs to make a 33x reduction of what sent us +50%.

Now, fuel really fucks with CPI and sends it rocketing so the US can’t afford for it to blow up too much. So my opinion is they’ll cap fuel maybe around USD9-12 and let shortages happen. By cap prices I mean it could be anything, govt intervention, storms, war, rationing coupons etc where supply/demand won’t full determine pricing. Think of natural disasters where fuel stations simply ran out, prices didn’t suddenly 100x.

During the 1940s downunder fuel and food was rationed and claimable with coupons. Military and necessary vehicles were fine. Work vehicles received rations. If you didn’t need a car for work, you did not receive a fuel ration. You cycled, walked, caught the bus to go longer distances. This is probable.

We know climate lockdowns are coming so that is the event/trigger. We also know from major events they cause a -20% to -25% reduction in oil consumption over the next 5yrs that follow. Therefore with 6yrs left to the target window we need oil to hit a high enough level it basically blows up at the same time we have an event/trigger to assist with a solid reduction to the target level.

Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 28, 2023, 02:55:54 PM
No need to elaborate.

Intelligent folks immediately understand my comment.

Like I thought, you just don’t know.  Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 28, 2023, 03:01:45 PM
Thank you for telling us what we can and cannot have.  I look forward to your thoughts on what we can or cannot say or think.

Where did I tell you what you can and cannot have?  If you want to buy a big electric vehicle, have at it—there are plenty of options available.

Given the driving habits of americans, a smaller, less expensive EV with less range would be sufficient for many.  And those who need the added range could buy a pricier EV with more battery capacity.  Something for everyone. 
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 28, 2023, 04:09:33 PM
Why do you need to drive more than one hundred miles a day? Seriously do you buy a box w of cereal a week when you only need one?

I put 25,000 miles a year on my truck. My new one is three months old and has 6,600 miles on it so I’m a little behind.
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: Never1AShow on September 28, 2023, 07:58:50 PM
Where did I tell you what you can and cannot have?  If you want to buy a big electric vehicle, have at it—there are plenty of options available.

Given the driving habits of americans, a smaller, less expensive EV with less range would be sufficient for many.  And those who need the added range could buy a pricier EV with more battery capacity.  Something for everyone.

Not if you had your way
Title: Re: 'Charging (car) has been pretty challenging': Ford's CEO
Post by: residue on September 28, 2023, 08:03:27 PM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/charging-pretty-challenging-fords-ceo-110000710.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/charging-pretty-challenging-fords-ceo-110000710.html)

In the video, during which he’s seen at the wheel of a vehicle, he says that he had just been to a charging site along Interstate 5 in California, where he waited 40 minutes to get a 40% charge on his truck.

"It was a really good reality check of the challenges that our customers go through," he said.



getting gasoline was prob an issue the first decade of  automobile production