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https://apnews.com/article/navy-seal-steroid-testing-drugs-883a7262652224ac382d22fd38f90940
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy will begin randomly testing its special operations forces for steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs beginning in November, taking a groundbreaking step that military leaders have long resisted.
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and the USA takes further steps to feminize its fighting force
Navy Seals should be taking gear as a requirement for joining
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Wonder if they will make an exemption for anyone who transitioning, ??? and the rest can all just adopt the last navy seal Bhnaks protocol and just take large amounts off bio identical hormones, enough to keep your resting heart rate over 100, that way your still natural.
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and the USA takes further steps to feminize its fighting force
Navy Seals should be taking gear as a requirement for joining
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Random meaning anyone who isn’t woke.
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https://apnews.com/article/navy-seal-steroid-testing-drugs-883a7262652224ac382d22fd38f90940
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy will begin randomly testing its special operations forces for steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs beginning in November, taking a groundbreaking step that military leaders have long resisted.
So dumb…but this is Biden’s military
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Women are the next supersoldier.
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Idiots
Special Forces SHOULD have Special Performance Enhancers
It's war and not sport we're talking about!
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Women are the next supersoldier.
Pre-Menstrual Tacticians
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Thunderbolt Ross doesn't approve.
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Wonder if they will make an exemption for anyone who transitioning, ??? and the rest can all just adopt the last navy seal Bhnaks protocol and just take large amounts off bio identical hormones, enough to keep your resting heart rate over 100, that way your still natural.
:D
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Buckets of Halotestin should be distributed to every sailor and soldier!!!
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Buckets of Halotestin should be distributed to every sailor and soldier!!!
Too much rage is seldom a good thing unless one is hacking the enemy to bits.
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All the old school military badasses seemed like juicers. Jocko being the best example
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Too much rage is seldom a good thing unless one is hacking the enemy to bits.
Just kidding! :D
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This is idiocy.
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What about meth? Worked wonders for the Nazis.
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What about meth? Worked wonders for the Nazis.
alcohol later to numb the sensation
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Good luck defeating Russia or China - lol! These morons are fucking delusional.
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I'm willing to have my mind changed by sensible arguments, but I currently think it's a good idea to test them and weed out the losers. Granted, they’ll lose around half their men these days, but it needs to be addressed.
First, on the matter of training and selection, if they are using it during that phase, they are cheating. The training is designed to break everyone down to the same physical condition and push them to the limits of endurance. They are trying to select a very small number of like-minded individuals who have the mental fortitude to keep going under any circumstances. Someone using steroids to get through is doing himself and all the other guys a disservice and he can't be relied upon. He lacks integrity by deliberately cheating the system, and he's using performance enhancers to gain an unfair physical and mental advantage over the rest of the team. If you're sneaking testosterone shots and popping Adderall to do what countless others have done without that stuff, then you don’t belong there in the first place.
As for using it once they're in their unit, it's really less of a moral issue and more about practicality. Firstly, unless it's literally doctor-prescribed to treat low testosterone, you don't need it. Older guys with wear and tear, fine, probably makes sense. Bloody Hollywood has convinced every young guy that they need to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger; most people using steroids in the military are doing so out of ego and to look like some idealized, character version of themselves. Big muscles and soldiering do not go together. This cultural obsession with steroids needs to change.
Secondly, what is going to happen to the individuals who are deployed for months on end and can't get resupplied? Are they going to be an effective member of the team when their hormones suddenly crash, and they're feeling emotionally volatile and lethargic? What are the effects of certain androgenic compounds on a man's psyche when he's exposed to extreme trauma? I don't know, but I’d like to if I’m going to be around someone who might be at an increased risk of suffering a mental breakdown. What about in the jungle, where you don't even shave for risk of infection? Sticking needles in your ass in those environments is asking for an abscess, and once again risking the operational capacity of the team. You’re there to do a job. Don't like it? Fuck off. Do as much drugs as you like when you're a civilian.
As for recovering from injury, I think there’s space to explore the use of performance enhancers and steroids. I could see the use of HGH and similar things being very helpful, but it should be under doctor supervision and not some guy dosing himself in his room with Chinese bath tub shit. Same for certain combat situations: I can accept some scenarios where it might be a huge benefit to have certain compounds issued, but it should be after controlled testing has taken place, and the drugs are being sourced from a pharmacy.
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This is idiocy.
Support the troops. Cam Brady 0 12.
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I'm willing to have my mind changed by sensible arguments, but I currently think it's a good idea to test them and weed out the losers. Granted, they’ll lose around half their men these days, but it needs to be addressed.
First, on the matter of training and selection, if they are using it during that phase, they are cheating. The training is designed to break everyone down to the same physical condition and push them to the limits of endurance. They are trying to select a very small number of like-minded individuals who have the mental fortitude to keep going under any circumstances. Someone using steroids to get through is doing himself and all the other guys a disservice and he can't be relied upon. He lacks integrity by deliberately cheating the system, and he's using performance enhancers to gain an unfair physical and mental advantage over the rest of the team. If you're sneaking testosterone shots and popping Adderall to do what countless others have done without that stuff, then you don’t belong there in the first place.
As for using it once they're in their unit, it's really less of a moral issue and more about practicality. Firstly, unless it's literally doctor-prescribed to treat low testosterone, you don't need it. Older guys with wear and tear, fine, probably makes sense. Bloody Hollywood has convinced every young guy that they need to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger; most people using steroids in the military are doing so out of ego and to look like some idealized, character version of themselves. Big muscles and soldiering do not go together. This cultural obsession with steroids needs to change.
Secondly, what is going to happen to the individuals who are deployed for months on end and can't get resupplied? Are they going to be an effective member of the team when their hormones suddenly crash, and they're feeling emotionally volatile and lethargic? What are the effects of certain androgenic compounds on a man's psyche when he's exposed to extreme trauma? I don't know, but I’d like to if I’m going to be around someone who might be at an increased risk of suffering a mental breakdown. What about in the jungle, where you don't even shave for risk of infection? Sticking needles in your ass in those environments is asking for an abscess, and once again risking the operational capacity of the team. You’re there to do a job. Don't like it? Fuck off. Do as much drugs as you like when you're a civilian.
As for recovering from injury, I think there’s space to explore the use of performance enhancers and steroids. I could see the use of HGH and similar things being very helpful, but it should be under doctor supervision and not some guy dosing himself in his room with Chinese bath tub shit. Same for certain combat situations: I can accept some scenarios where it might be a huge benefit to have certain compounds issued, but it should be after controlled testing has taken place, and the drugs are being sourced from a pharmacy.
Well thought out response.
I agree 100% that testing of candidates vying for the position should be done as it's a competition and should be as fair as possible.
But once you are in.... If you got in clean, against other clean candidates, it means you were at the top of the food chain. If you want to seek performance enhancing drugs after that.. I would have no problem. We are asking them to perform at a high level, with death the consequence of failure. IF performance enhancing drugs provide and edge, that should be their choice. For SEALS, Delta Force, Pararescue, I wouldn't even have a problem with it being doctor supervised.
If they get in a place where steroids aren't available, well, they achieved their position without them.. so they would still be the best option.
My thinking is, we are asking these individuals to risk their lives, IF they think and medical professionals believe performance enhancing drugs can increase their chances of success, why not?
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So dumb…but this is Biden’s military
What is dumb, is there is a 99% chance this would have happened under Trump. Remember when Trump said he would end the anchor baby citizenship thing and then didn't. You put too much stock in what Presidents do.
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What is dumb, is there is a 99% chance this would have happened under Trump. Remember when Trump said he would end the anchor baby citizenship thing and then didn't. You put too much stock in what Presidents do.
Hasn't Trump also at some point called for the execution of drug dealers?
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Hasn't Trump also at some point called for the execution of drug dealers?
No idea... wouldn't shock me.. in fact.... if you had said... "Didn't Trump call for the extinction of dolphins?" I woulda been like "I don't know.. but maybe..sounds like something he would say"
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Well thought out response.
I agree 100% that testing of candidates vying for the position should be done as it's a competition and should be as fair as possible.
But once you are in.... If you got in clean, against other clean candidates, it means you were at the top of the food chain. If you want to seek performance enhancing drugs after that.. I would have no problem. We are asking them to perform at a high level, with death the consequence of failure. IF performance enhancing drugs provide and edge, that should be their choice. For SEALS, Delta Force, Pararescue, I wouldn't even have a problem with it being doctor supervised.
If they get in a place where steroids aren't available, well, they achieved their position without them.. so they would still be the best option.
My thinking is, we are asking these individuals to risk their lives, IF they think and medical professionals believe performance enhancing drugs can increase their chances of success, why not?
Thank you, yes, we are almost in agreement on this topic. My main concern is that death can be the consequence of men doing their own thing unnecessarily and risking those around them, but if certain conditions are met (e.g. doctor supervision, pharmaceutical quality drugs, empirical evidence indicating a benefit, etc.) then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Hasn't Trump also at some point called for the execution of drug dealers?
You guys and your TDS... This happened under kid-raping shitter, not Trump... ::) ::)
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The woke pussies chiming in here hilarious... Test and suspend the transitioning retards then, that is not a valid medical need.
Its mental illness and woketurdation....
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So what happens if a SEAL that gets caught identifies as natural?
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So what happens if a SEAL that gets caught identifies as natural?
Or better yet, identifies as a SEAL?
Seals (and Manatees) are not tested for steroids and are exempt
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ADVICE FROM A SEAL (when things get hard)
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Didn't the military already randomly test for all drugs (ped included) anyway?
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alcohol later to numb the sensation
you have to be drunk to post like you do :D utter bellend
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What is dumb, is there is a 99% chance this would have happened under Trump. Remember when Trump said he would end the anchor baby citizenship thing and then didn't. You put too much stock in what Presidents do say.
Fixed.
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Idiots
Special Forces SHOULD have Special Performance Enhancers
It's war and not sport we're talking about!
This…
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They should give them the drugs they gave the soldiers in Jacob's Ladder.
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We should give women steroids, Adderall, Viagra and every other drug under the sun to help them pass the training too. That would also be great. These brave girl-bosses volunteering to try out for special operations need the same support!
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You guys and your TDS... This happened under kid-raping shitter, not Trump... ::) ::)
Thank you.
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Did someone say Trump called for the execution of drug dealers? Haha! That’s awesome!
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Did someone say Trump called for the execution of drug dealers? Haha! That’s awesome!
Until they start executing people. The we will hear "he was such a goot boi!"
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Report: Russian Journalist Suggests Ukraine Is Using Crystal Meth to Boost Its Soldiers’ Performance
I sat down today with former Fox News reporter, Clayton Morris, to discuss disturbing reports of Ukrainian troops being drugged. This was in response to a chat I had on Wednesday with Russian war correspondent, Marat Khairullin. Marat told me that Ukrainian troops who are captured or who have surrendered to Russian forces are showing clear signs of being under the influence of some narcotic. They are oblivious to pain and, while in Russian custody, go through painful withdrawal. In some cases the sobering up takes more than a week. Marat said this is becoming pretty common. It is not an isolated case.
I checked in with one of my DEA buddies (he ran undercover money laundering ops in NYC for several years) and he said it sounds like they are getting dosed with Crystal Meth or some variant. Some of the effects include:
A user may feel anxious and confused, be unable to sleep, have mood swings, and become violent.
They may become paranoid. They may hear and see things that aren’t there. They may think about hurting themselves or others. The drug can affect judgment and lessen inhibitions. Someone under the influence of the drug may be more likely to engage in risky behaviors
Not caring about personal appearance or grooming.
Strange sleeping patterns — staying up for days or even weeks at a time
Jerky, erratic movements; twitching; facial tics; animated or exaggerated mannerisms; and constant talking
This may explain why the Ukrainians continue to throw themselves at Russian defensive positions and incur massive casualties.
We also discuss Ukraine’s latest insane tactic — i.e., they insert soldiers on foot; they must march to the frontline position carrying ammunition, water, food and other kit. Who ever came up with this is a moron. I challenge any of you to grab 500 rounds of 7.62 x 51 ammunition and carry that for a mile. It weighs about forty pounds. If you get into a gunfight and are firing on full auto, that amount of ammo will last about 15 minutes. There is no system for resupply. While you are carrying the ammo grab a couple of gallon jugs of water. You’ll need that to stay hydrated for a day. What happens when you run out? Good question.
My point is this. These Ukrainian troops are put in a no win situation and, without a steady stream of armored vehicles to resupply them, are performing the military equivalent of premature ejaculation. They cannot sustain an offensive push.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its
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Report: Russian Journalist Suggests Ukraine Is Using Crystal Meth to Boost Its Soldiers’ Performance
I sat down today with former Fox News reporter, Clayton Morris, to discuss disturbing reports of Ukrainian troops being drugged. This was in response to a chat I had on Wednesday with Russian war correspondent, Marat Khairullin. Marat told me that Ukrainian troops who are captured or who have surrendered to Russian forces are showing clear signs of being under the influence of some narcotic. They are oblivious to pain and, while in Russian custody, go through painful withdrawal. In some cases the sobering up takes more than a week. Marat said this is becoming pretty common. It is not an isolated case.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its
Won't be the first or last time it has been done...
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/speed-submarines-and-espionage/4365/ (https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/speed-submarines-and-espionage/4365/)
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Won't be the first or last time it has been done...
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/speed-submarines-and-espionage/4365/ (https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/speed-submarines-and-espionage/4365/)
I would never suggest that our military use meth or anything like that, but our “leaders” seem like they’re doing everything possible to leave us at a disadvantage
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I would never suggest that our military use meth or anything like that, but our “leaders” seem like they’re doing everything possible to leave us at a disadvantage
Nothing wrong with soldiers using amphetamines.
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I would never suggest that our military use meth or anything like that, but our “leaders” seem like they’re doing everything possible to leave us at a disadvantage
U.S. miitiary pilots use amphetamines on long missions as standard procedure.
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I would never suggest that our military use meth or anything like that, but our “leaders” seem like they’re doing everything possible to leave us at a disadvantage
No one in the world is afraid of any US servicemen, as people Americans are very soft, why wouldn't it's military be? People however shit themselves thinking their military tech and how advanced it is compared to the rest of the world.
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No one in the world is afraid of any US servicemen, as people Americans are very soft, why wouldn't it's military be? People however shit themselves thinking their military tech and how advanced it is compared to the rest of the world.
Keep thinking that you idiot.
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Nothing wrong with soldiers using amphetamines.
Not meth
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The Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers used methamphetamines for years and it gave them a fighting advantage.
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No one in the world is afraid of any US servicemen, as people Americans are very soft, why wouldn't it's military be? People however shit themselves thinking their military tech and how advanced it is compared to the rest of the world.
Naive and uneducated on this
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At the bottom of the article it said all SEALs will have to wear high heels and a mini skirt for basic training.
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Not meth
German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.
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Nothing wrong with soldiers using drugs to increase performance.
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German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.
Benzedrine was the Allied equivalent.
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Benzedrine was the Allied equivalent.
Exactly.
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Report: Russian Journalist Suggests Ukraine Is Using Crystal Meth to Boost Its Soldiers’ Performance
I sat down today with former Fox News reporter, Clayton Morris, to discuss disturbing reports of Ukrainian troops being drugged. This was in response to a chat I had on Wednesday with Russian war correspondent, Marat Khairullin. Marat told me that Ukrainian troops who are captured or who have surrendered to Russian forces are showing clear signs of being under the influence of some narcotic. They are oblivious to pain and, while in Russian custody, go through painful withdrawal. In some cases the sobering up takes more than a week. Marat said this is becoming pretty common. It is not an isolated case.
I checked in with one of my DEA buddies (he ran undercover money laundering ops in NYC for several years) and he said it sounds like they are getting dosed with Crystal Meth or some variant. Some of the effects include:
A user may feel anxious and confused, be unable to sleep, have mood swings, and become violent.
They may become paranoid. They may hear and see things that aren’t there. They may think about hurting themselves or others. The drug can affect judgment and lessen inhibitions. Someone under the influence of the drug may be more likely to engage in risky behaviors
Not caring about personal appearance or grooming.
Strange sleeping patterns — staying up for days or even weeks at a time
Jerky, erratic movements; twitching; facial tics; animated or exaggerated mannerisms; and constant talking
This may explain why the Ukrainians continue to throw themselves at Russian defensive positions and incur massive casualties.
We also discuss Ukraine’s latest insane tactic — i.e., they insert soldiers on foot; they must march to the frontline position carrying ammunition, water, food and other kit. Who ever came up with this is a moron. I challenge any of you to grab 500 rounds of 7.62 x 51 ammunition and carry that for a mile. It weighs about forty pounds. If you get into a gunfight and are firing on full auto, that amount of ammo will last about 15 minutes. There is no system for resupply. While you are carrying the ammo grab a couple of gallon jugs of water. You’ll need that to stay hydrated for a day. What happens when you run out? Good question.
My point is this. These Ukrainian troops are put in a no win situation and, without a steady stream of armored vehicles to resupply them, are performing the military equivalent of premature ejaculation. They cannot sustain an offensive push.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=question-is-ukraine-using-crystal-meth-boost-its
The person who wrote this sounds like a little crybaby.
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German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.
That was 1945. They also used steroids. Our military wants to test for gear with Special ops. That ridiculous
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That was 1945. They also used steroids. Our military wants to test for gear with Special ops. That ridiculous
Your complaining about use of methamphetamines though.
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The person in the previous article mentioned his 'DEA buddies.'
So there's no question he's a piece of shit.
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Naive and uneducated on this
I’m literally
1) a foreigner
2) served
Meanwhile you larp like jay cutlet during a photo shoot. You think the average seppo can go up against anyone from the albania? Chechnya?algeria? the balkans?
You just said you wouldnt use meth, while other countries are fine with it. Soft
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I read some opinions on professionalmuscle how steroid using athletes are a huge liability from many angles. I was convinced. For one, steroids wreck your endurance and recovery. All extra weight is a liability. They alter your mood where you need to actually be unagressive and not overly violent. This was said by someone who has used steroids for decades himself and is actually involved in training SF. He says steroid users are much more often medvac'ed due to non-military related issues. He says the military has a lot of data and this is due to data collection over many years. He says it's actually practically allowed in some other branches, everyone is on steroids. Same with regular police. Everyone knows who is on steroids but they look away.
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I read some opinions on professionalmuscle how steroid using athletes are a huge liability from many angles. I was convinced. For one, steroids wreck your endurance and recovery. All extra weight is a liability. They alter your mood where you need to actually be unagressive and not overly violent. This was said by someone who has used steroids for decades himself and is actually involved in training SF. He says steroid users are much more often medvac'ed due to non-military related issues. He says the military has a lot of data and this is due to data collection over many years. He says it's actually practically allowed in some other branches, everyone is on steroids. Same with regular police. Everyone knows who is on steroids but they look away.
Steroids are a huge hindrance for special ops guys or infantry in general. The bigger you are the quicker you tire out and the slower you are. People watch movies like Commando or Predator with Arnold running around and killing people and aliens while never getting tired and think that is reality. ::) The best soldiers/Marines I have ever known were skinny guys.
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Steroids are a huge hindrance for special ops guys or infantry in general. The bigger you are the quicker you tire out and the slower you are. People watch movies like Commando or Predator with Arnold running around and killing people and aliens while never getting tired and think that is reality. ::) The best soldiers/Marines I have ever known were skinny guys.
That fella also said these guys do peds for all the same reason most do: body image, they just want to look jacked. Not to improve "job performance."
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They will test for male hormone derivatives but have no problem with men in the Navy taking estrogen.
Anyone concerned with military guys on steroids making bad decisions because of how aggressive they feel while juicing?
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Big mistake on the Navy's part.
Recruitment for all military branches has been at an all time low.
If any red blooded American wants to willingly put their life on the line to protect the interests of a bunch of wealthy congressmen that seek to keep the military industrial complex alive and well, these brave men should be allowed to be juiced to the gills and on cocaine whenever desired.
Don't like it? Let them put their children on the front lines.
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Big mistake on the Navy's part.
Recruitment for all military branches has been at an all time low.
If any red blooded American wants to willingly put their life on the line to protect the interests of a bunch of wealthy congressmen that seek to keep the military industrial complex alive and well, these brave men should be allowed to be juiced to the gills and on cocaine whenever desired.
Don't like it? Let them put their children on the front lines.
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Excellent points.
If they have a rule prohibiting it. Then that's that.
Random testing is bullshit. Where you are compelled to provide samples of your blood and/or urine. It's invasive and frankly seems intrusive and unconstitutional.
I'm subject to random testing. Been under random testing for the past 25 plus years. Now, how about this: in 22 years I was probably tested a total of 8, maybe 10 times. A few years ago I started TRT and was prescribed 2 other controlled substances. So I go in for my urinalysis. Comes back positive for steroids (they only measure test levels and if it's over 900 it's a positive for steroids) and another prescribed medication. Lab doctor calls and asks do you have a prescription? Yep I do. I then provide him with the prescriptions. Dr- OK this is now considered a negative test and your supervisor will be informed that you had a negative test result. Well since then I've been "randomly" tested about 15 times in the past 2 years! I'm seriously considering contacting a lawyer.
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The biggest threat to freedom & democracy is winstrol
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Excellent points.
If they have a rule prohibiting it. Then that's that.
Random testing is bullshit. Where you are compelled to provide samples of your blood and/or urine. It's invasive and frankly seems intrusive and unconstitutional.
I'm subject to random testing. Been under random testing for the past 25 plus years. Now, how about this: in 22 years I was probably tested a total of 8, maybe 10 times. A few years ago I started TRT and was prescribed 2 other controlled substances. So I go in for my urinalysis. Comes back positive for steroids (they only measure test levels and if it's over 900 it's a positive for steroids) and another prescribed medication. Lab doctor calls and asks do you have a prescription? Yep I do. I then provide him with the prescriptions. Dr- OK this is now considered a negative test and your supervisor will be informed that you had a negative test result. Well since then I've been "randomly" tested about 15 times in the past 2 years! I'm seriously considering contacting a lawyer.
That's invasive man.
One thing is for you to pop hot on a UDS for amphetamines and opioids and be put on a watch list that tests "occasionally", but to be tested on average 7x per year for simply having higher than "normal" testosterone levels is ridiculous. You had genuine Rx's for it, so no need to treat you like a seeker.
I don't believe that your ability to practice medicine is impaired by having higher than normal testosterone levels. Could you possibly be in a hypercoagulable state that places you at risk? Debatable. Even with higher than normal testosterone levels your mental faculties are intact and should in no way result with harm towards any patient. Additionally, if you were on a controlled substance along the lines of a stimulant, what's an improvement to your attention, concentration and focus going to do besides make you a more effective clinician that can actually work late into the evenings along the lines of a resident from the 80's and 90s?
Meanwhile, you know what "drug" every hospital gives out for free in every doctor's lounge? Coffee. Coffee contains caffeine which is also a stimulant. They pump out free coffee all day (i.e. stimulants) to keep their physicians on staff wired and drugged up. But there's nothing wrong with that right? This shit keeps them wired and working late into the day as if on speed. Incredible isn't it? Very rarely do hospitals give out anything for free, but the one thing they peddle for free is a drug by the name of Caffeine that is cleverly decorated by the guise of "coffee".
But what I do know. It's all fucked up.
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Big mistake on the Navy's part.
Recruitment for all military branches has been at an all time low.
If any red blooded American wants to willingly put their life on the line to protect the interests of a bunch of wealthy congressmen that seek to keep the military industrial complex alive and well, these brave men should be allowed to be juiced to the gills and on cocaine whenever desired.
Don't like it? Let them put their children on the front lines.
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Agree
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That fella also said these guys do peds for all the same reason most do: body image, they just want to look jacked. Not to improve "job performance."
Like the rest of us. ;D
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That's invasive man.
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If they only knew that I pop melatonin like tic-tacs I'd be barred for life. There's just no excuse for that.
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German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.
someone should look into how they all stopped using at the same time
The information could help addicts today stop using
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someone should look into how they all stopped using at the same time
The information could help addicts today stop using
Some went the illegal route after WW2. Japan was said to have had "big" problems with meth addicts after the war. My understanding is also that amphetamines don't really cause withdrawal as say compared to opiates for example. What you get is lowered mood and brain damage if done long enough with a "high" enough dose.
Whay do you think about this guy? Would you immediately see that he's meth addict if he had a suit on or whatever? Most elsewhere said sure, I'd pick him out quickly.
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That's invasive man.
One thing is for you to pop hot on a UDS for amphetamines and opioids and be put on a watch list that tests "occasionally", but to be tested on average 7x per year for simply having higher than "normal" testosterone levels is ridiculous. You had genuine Rx's for it, so no need to treat you like a seeker.
I don't believe that your ability to practice medicine is impaired by having higher than normal testosterone levels. Could you possibly be in a hypercoagulable state that places you at risk? Debatable. Even with higher than normal testosterone levels your mental faculties are intact and should in no way result with harm towards any patient. Additionally, if you were on a controlled substance along the lines of a stimulant, what's an improvement to your attention, concentration and focus going to do besides make you a more effective clinician that can actually work late into the evenings along the lines of a resident from the 80's and 90s?
Meanwhile, you know what "drug" every hospital gives out for free in every doctor's lounge? Coffee. Coffee contains caffeine which is also a stimulant. They pump out free coffee all day (i.e. stimulants) to keep their physicians on staff wired and drugged up. But there's nothing wrong with that right? This shit keeps them wired and working late into the day as if on speed. Incredible isn't it? Very rarely do hospitals give out anything for free, but the one thing they peddle for free is a drug by the name of Caffeine that is cleverly decorated by the guise of "coffee".
But what I do know. It's all fucked up.
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Coffee is culturally important but it might be that coffee really is very benign. I was a heart patient and could drink coffee, nothing was said about it. I also used nicotine pouches, SNUS, in front of doctors and they didn't say anything about that either.
OT sort of but if you seek help for depresseion that would be the worst time to cold turkey nicotine, same with coffee. This the psychiatrists say themselves. So they might actually tell a patient to keep smoking.
Now the Russian's say the Ukranians are all on amphetamines, supposedly when they are captured they quickly start withdrawing bad. But they exhibit zero fear in the trenches, just throw themselves out to be butchered.
I'm sure plenty of Russian's are on "meth" too.
Hard to know the truth or extent of use for obvious reasons.
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That was 1945. They also used steroids. Our military wants to test for gear with Special ops. That ridiculous
In War, nothing should be fair
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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
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Coffee is culturally important but it might be that coffee really is very benign. I was a heart patient and could drink coffee, nothing was said about it. I also used nicotine pouches, SNUS, in front of doctors and they didn't say anything about that either.
OT sort of but if you seek help for depresseion that would be the worst time to cold turkey nicotine, same with coffee. This the psychiatrists say themselves. So they might actually tell a patient to keep smoking.
No argument there.
Caffeine causes the release of Dopamine, Noradrenaline and Serotonin. All 3 are actively involved in the regulation of your mood and at low levels can lead to depression. If you "cold turkey" coffee, you can in theory have rebound anxiety and depression symptoms. Moreover, if you cold turkey coffee, there is such a thing as a terrible coffee withdrawal headache, it can be brutal.
Side note, for anyone that uses SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) like Prozac/Fluoxetine, Zoloft/Sertraline, Lexapro/Escitalopram, Celexa/Citalopram and Paxil/Paroxetine, these medications allow more availability of Serotonin in the brain which in turn helps to regulate both anxiety and depression. Likewise, there are other antidepressants like that of Wellbutrin/Bupropion that are NDRIs (Noradrenaline and Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors), which allows for more Noradrenaline and Dopamine to be readily available in the brain, which also contribute to the regulation of the mood in an antidepressant fashion. That's how coffee can be one stone to kill 3 birds as it does similar to what SSRI's like Prozac + NDRI's like Wellbutrin do.
Nicotine is an interesting one. You can always substitute the Nicotine obtained from smoking with Nicotine gum, but it is in fact more of a psychological component that drives the addictive urge and therefore drives you to actually want to take part in the entire ritual of smoking (stepping outside, lighting it up, pacing yourself between puffs, speaking with others, wiping your forehead with the back of your hand as you let out a sigh of relief etc.). Personally, I sometimes chew Nicotine gum for the benefits towards my attention, concentration and focus. Nicotine causes the release of Dopamine and acetylcholine, both of which are highly beneficial for memory enhancement and overall cognition.
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I read that coffee and nicotine, separately, boost dopamine by 200%, cocaine by 2000%
And meth by 10,000 percent lol.
I use the bupropion NDRI, but I've read that irl it hardly touches dopamine. But a curious thing happened as I started using it. I doubled my nicotine pouch consumption, it was like I no longer felt the dopamine push from nicotine as easily. And it was used in smoking cessation.
I tried a choline boosting regimen recently. I took alpha-gpc, uridine and acetyl-carnitine and I thought it surely worked, I was less likely to procrastinate on tasks.
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I read that coffee and nicotine, separately, boost dopamine by 200%, cocaine by 2000%
And meth by 10,000 percent lol.
I use the bupropion NDRI, but I've read that irl it hardly touches dopamine. But a curious thing happened as I started using it. I doubled my nicotine pouch consumption, it was like I no longer felt the dopamine push from nicotine as easily. And it was used in smoking cessation.
I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.
Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?
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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.
Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?
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I'm 46 and I first tried cocaine at 45! It gave a nice "push" like you get extremely confident. However I was on a lot of other shit that day so it didn't work THAT well. The guy offering it to me said, "good quality, this is the one you'll remember for the rest of your life, the one you'll keep chasing." I'd like to do it in a more sober state because it wasn't as good as I suspect it can be. But I will only use it if offered, it's too expensive to REALLY try out lol.
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I'm 46 and I first tried cocaine at 45! It gave a nice "push" like you get extremely confident. However I was on a lot of other shit that day so it didn't work THAT well. The guy offering it to me said, "good quality, this is the one you'll remember for the rest of your life, the one you'll keep chasing." I'd like to do it in a more sober state because it wasn't as good as I suspect it can be. But I will only use it if offered, it's too expensive to REALLY try out lol.
I have friends that have worked a lifetime in finance who still use it on occasion and "supposedly" get really good stuff, but I've always been too scared and thought, "well, what if I'm the idiot that gets a heart attack instantly or is found dead in my bedroom, sitting by the bed with a heavy nose bleed?". Still, one day I need to try it and see whether or not it's as good as people swear it to be.
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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
Yep.
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Yep.
I have known more than a few real LEOs that when steroids were made a controlled substance stopped and lost a lot of muscle. It sucks because I understand why they need it.
Most of them still trained and got back some but there is a huge difference between natural and *more* than TRT levels.
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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
Ronnie would be exhibit A.
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Ronnie would be exhibit A.
And Sergio Oliva.
(https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/ZMuONBCdtqm6-3fBDth7ummPtXA=/1024x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archive.tronc/XH2ZXT3RFNC7XAAYQ4NTSNHSAA.jpg)
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^ Ahhh yes, forgot about him.
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I have known more than a few real LEOs that when steroids were made a controlled substance stopped and lost a lot of muscle. It sucks because I understand why they need it.
Most of them still trained and got back some but there is a huge difference between natural and *more* than TRT levels.
My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.
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My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.
If I were a defense attorney I would bring this up in court. Two different laws being applied here.
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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.
Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?
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it's not, it's rather boring. It's the trainingwheels of drugs
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are they testing the Dolphins that attach mines to ships as well?
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I`ve seen a zillion cops and corrections officers on gear......just saying.
yeah buddy!
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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.
Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?
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Yes. Love it. Great for sociability but fuck it ruined my elections. Haven't used it in at least 15 years or so. It's out of your system very quickly for UA purposes, as long as you only use once every couple of weeks.
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German soldiers used methamphetamines, Pervitin, till 1945.
Read the story of Aimo Koivunen. He was a soldier that fleeing on skis with his squad from the enemy, he was going to take one of the Pervitin tablets. But couldn't get his mittens off to take one out of the tube, so he swallowed the entire tube. A whole squads worth at once. And man, what an adventure he had. LOL
https://www.iflscience.com/the-finnish-soldier-who-took-his-entire-troops-methamphetamine-supply-while-skiing-away-from-the-russians-59459
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A lot of roid users are drama queens and big babies and love playing victim. “Wah, da gubment won’t let me use roids. Wah, wah, you don’t undastand: our police force and soldiers need to look good and be 250 pounds with all sorts of mental and physical problems! Wah! Everyone’s always demonizing us and hurting our tender feelings.”
Nearly all roid users are mental cases.
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A lot of roid users are drama queens and big babies and love playing victim. “Wah, da gubment won’t let me use roids. Wah, wah, you don’t undastand: our police force and soldiers need to look good and be 250 pounds with all sorts of mental and physical problems! Wah! Everyone’s always demonizing us and hurting our tender feelings.”
Nearly all roid users are mental cases.
As are most cops.
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I have friends that have worked a lifetime in finance who still use it on occasion and "supposedly" get really good stuff, but I've always been too scared and thought, "well, what if I'm the idiot that gets a heart attack instantly or is found dead in my bedroom, sitting by the bed with a heavy nose bleed?". Still, one day I need to try it and see whether or not it's as good as people swear it to be.
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I would have no interest in Cocaine.. even at its best, the effects don't really interest me. Now MDMA... :)
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My friend who visited the US, California, NYC, Florida and so on said to me "you wouldn't believe the amount of roided cops in the US."
Everyone knows they are on and then the thought that they might go on to bust someone with a couple of vials is disgusting.
I worked on a department with about 2200 cops. I would hazard a guess that less than 20 were on illegal steroids. Probably less than 10. Now that was Texas and may be an anomaly. I have a friend who is a former cop from New York and it seems they don't follow the rules as closely there.
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I’m literally
1) a foreigner
2) served
Meanwhile you larp like jay cutlet during a photo shoot. You think the average seppo can go up against anyone from the albania? Chechnya?algeria? the balkans?
You just said you wouldnt use meth, while other countries are fine with it. Soft
Doesn’t mean I’m soft it’s means I’m smart. I’m 32 years clean so I know how each affects you and Coke and meth doesn’t affect you the same but while training it’s affects your judgment, your targets, your shooting accuracy and almost everything else besides being highly addictive.
Try doing a line of meth or coke (or anything else that fry’s your CNS) then come back and tell us how that went, Junior
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Doesn’t mean I’m soft it’s means I’m smart. I’m 32 years clean so I know how each affects you and Coke and meth doesn’t affect you the same but while training it’s affects your judgment, your targets, your shooting accuracy and almost everything else besides being highly addictive.
Try doing a line of meth or coke (or anything else that fry’s your CNS) then come back and tell us how that went, Junior
Since all us anti Trumpsters are communists... and you the consummate patriot. tell us about your favorite military assignment...
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I haven't tried Cocaine yet. One day, if I get the courage, I'd like to at least try it once to see what the big fuss is about.
Have you or anyone else tried it? Is it worth it?
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Dirty high and junk and I’ve tried it in Costa Rica and Miami.
Real speed was much better, but coming off of that unpleasant.
I’ve tried all sorts of stuff like opioids like Oxy too and I never felt addiction because they were a little fun, but I wasn’t trying to escape my life I guess.
When you aren’t mentally ill you are more aware of the side effects in my experience.
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Since all us anti Trumpsters are communists... and you the consummate patriot. tell us about your favorite military assignment...
Tell me I’m wrong. And yes, since you support show trials, don’t support the first and second amendments, voted for Biden and his (puppeteers) policies, YOUR support of BLM….yes, im not far off, at all.
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So the only men who can take steroids in the army are women. Sounds about right for this Admin.
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Tell me I’m wrong. And yes, since you support show trials, don’t support the first and second amendments, voted for Biden and his (puppeteers) policies, YOUR support of BLM….yes, im not far off, at all.
The fact you dislike blacks, believe women should be seen and not heard, support the Russian invasion into Ukraine, and support the Neo-Nazi party, I really don't care what you think of me.
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The fact you dislike blacks, believe women should be seen and not heard, support the Russian invasion into Ukraine, and support the Neo-Nazi party, I really don't care what you think of me.
Where in the fuck did you get that from???
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Where in the fuck did you get that from???
My thoughts exactly about every time I read one of your posts... ;)
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My thoughts exactly about every time I read one of your posts... ;)
Bro, your posts speak volumes and aren’t that hard to see you fall on the political spectrum. Was what I stated wrong?
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Bro, your posts speak volumes and aren’t that hard to see you fall on the political spectrum. Was what I stated wrong?
Bro, you consistently post loaded questions, questionable sources, put quotes in our mouths, and then sit there confused as to why we don't take you and your posts seriously. You haven't earned the courtesy at this point of anything approaching an adult conversation until you regroup, and start posting credible things.
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Bro, you consistently post loaded questions, questionable sources, put quotes in our mouths, and then sit there confused as to why we don't take you and your posts seriously. You haven't earned the courtesy at this point of anything approaching an adult conversation until you regroup, and start posting credible things.
So you can’t tell me what I posted about you was wrong? Got it!
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So you can’t tell me what I posted about you was wrong? Got it!
So what I said went over your head.. once again... Got it!
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My thoughts exactly about every time I read one of your posts... ;)
BOOM! Just watch, he isn't going to understand the point of this.
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So you can’t tell me what I posted about you was wrong? Got it!
Hell, I can't even tell what you posted that was right. Except for nothing.
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Hell, I can't even tell what you posted that was right. Except for nothing.
Because you’re literally oblivious to…..anything. Let’s face it. You, Agnostic and Prime aren’t exactly politically savvy and completely void of any common sense when it comes to politics.
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Because you’re literally oblivious to…..anything. Let’s face it. You, Agnostic and Prime aren’t exactly politically savvy and completely void of any common sense when it comes to politics.
Ahhh... the curse of living with facts and reality. As an outsider looking in, how does that make you feel?
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Because you’re literally oblivious to…..anything. Let’s face it. You, Agnostic and Prime aren’t exactly politically savvy and completely void of any common sense when it comes to politics.
I could have this printed on a T shirt and wear it proudly. ANY negative thing a guy like you.... an election denier, a Guliani Powell supporter and Mr. Pillow follower, who thinks the Gateway Pundit is a reliable source, says about me, is a compliment. It underscores I'm on the right track.
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I could have this printed on a T shirt and wear it proudly. ANY negative thing a guy like you.... an election denier, a Guliani Powell supporter and Mr. Pillow follower, who thinks the Gateway Pundit is a reliable source, says about me, is a compliment. It underscores I'm on the right track.
Go ahead and have that shirt made…make sure you when you do, you quote ME!
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I could have this printed on a T shirt and wear it proudly. ANY negative thing a guy like you.... an election denier, a Guliani Powell supporter and Mr. Pillow follower, who thinks the Gateway Pundit is a reliable source, says about me, is a compliment. It underscores I'm on the right track.
Go ahead and have that shirt made…make sure that when you do, you quote Coach is back!
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Go ahead and have that shirt made…make sure that when you do, you quote Coach is back!
Nope…quote my real name. I don’t hide behind a handle or a gimmick.
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Nope…quote my real name. I don’t hide behind a handle or a gimmick.
_Quach Tard
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_Quach Tard
You’re not helping yourself with responses like that, Junior
Like your counterparts, keep hiding.
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The fact you dislike blacks, believe women should be seen and not heard, support the Russian invasion into Ukraine, and support the Neo-Nazi party, I really don't care what you think of me.
Now you sound like the typical libturd, calling people "racist" and all other loads of crap... I guess thats all you people have... **shrug**
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I find it funny libz call out people for hating blacks... What they dont realize is its "some blacks". (Violent ghetto thugs who commit 50% of the US violent crime).
The normal hard-working black folks are just that, good people. (Vince, Wiggs, LittleJ, etc). Many million more...
I guess we hate all whites too?? Because I hate meth-head trailer trash who just so happen to be white?
Or how about in New Mexico, the prisons are filled with a certain race of people?? makes them all violent criminals, right??
Libz have to be the sorriest excuse for a human ever... BLM hates white people, so yeah, its OK to hate them back.
Plus, a very violent and corrupt org...
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Now you sound like the typical libturd, calling people "racist" and all other loads of crap... I guess thats all you people have... **shrug**
And you the typical repugnant. Ignoring what your side says.. giving them a pass... You're a gym rat so I guess my post going over your head isn't surprising.. but your mentor Coach.. has been applying false lables left and right.. not a peep from you or your kind.. yet here you are... when I do the same thing.. Hypocrite much?
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And you the typical repugnant. Ignoring what your side says.. giving them a pass... You're a gym rat so I guess my post going over your head isn't surprising.. but your mentor Coach.. has been applying false lables left and right.. not a peep from you or your kind.. yet here you are... when I do the same thing.. Hypocrite much?
Actually I haven’t.. at all.
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Actually I haven’t.. at all.
Debunked