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Title: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Gym Rat on October 02, 2023, 10:35:52 AM
Do not watch if bothered by such things, could have been avoided with proper uprights, supports, etc..

  :-\
Really bad

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Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2023, 10:38:32 AM
My friend told me about this. I didn't want to watch it.

Since I'm striving for a 370 bench now, to beat B. Hank's alleged best bench of 365 from 2002, I don't want to be deterred from it by internalizing any irrational views on bench press risks.

Would there be any benefit for me to watch it, with respect to that concern? Maybe to learn what not to do?
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 02, 2023, 10:41:05 AM
My friend told me about this. I didn't want to watch it.

Since I'm striving for a 370 bench now, to beat B. Hank's alleged best bench of 365 from 2002, I don't want to be deterred from it by internalizing any irrational views on bench press risks.

Would there be any benefit for me to watch it, with respect to that concern? Maybe to learn what not to do?

No. You already know to get a spot or use safety racks when alone.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: That_Dude on October 02, 2023, 10:47:27 AM
If his back arch wasn't so aggressive the bar wouldn't have immediately rolled to his throat :D
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 02, 2023, 10:53:34 AM
Do not watch if bothered by such things, could have been avoided with proper uprights, supports, etc..

  :-\
Really bad

i=8W30TZvz_3E9R2RG

they really should pull that video...I was expecting for someone to pull it off but its just showing him slowly choking to death....horrible to watch
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: wes on October 02, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
I`ll pass.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Dalnet on October 02, 2023, 10:57:23 AM
Brutal. Poor lad. Stupid but I've done stupid when young without a spotter. Hits hard.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: robcguns on October 02, 2023, 11:11:52 AM
That’s crazy it just crushed his throat, I would have gotten out of that. You gotta go full body spaz, I understand his throat is crushed but no that ain’t happening. He should have some strength to keep it from rolling on the throat and or should have went crazy. Fuck dying like that.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Gym Rat on October 02, 2023, 11:22:02 AM
My friend told me about this. I didn't want to watch it.

Since I'm striving for a 370 bench now, to beat B. Hank's alleged best bench of 365 from 2002, I don't want to be deterred from it by internalizing any irrational views on bench press risks.

Would there be any benefit for me to watch it, with respect to that concern? Maybe to learn what not to do?

No benefit. Just don't go for PR's alone, and without proper spotter-arms.
Could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
same leg technique as Brian...
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: 38 returns on October 02, 2023, 12:13:22 PM
if only we knew someone who trained alone in a dungeon???


Brian- load up the bench
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2023, 12:19:17 PM
if only we knew someone who trained alone in a dungeon???


Brian- load up the bench

He has already been advised to do bench press to the throat for 1RM
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2023, 12:31:21 PM
Since from what I can tell, his death was preventable, I will check the video out.

This has to be the one my friend just told me about:
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2023, 12:32:54 PM
Since from what I can tell, his death was preventable, I will check the video out.

This has to be the one my friend just told me about:

Way to go Columbo
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: BB on October 02, 2023, 12:36:39 PM
He probably could've survived if it wasn't for the collars on the bar. The weight would've slipped off that side, and then he could've slid out from under easily.

Poor dude. Big arch, too much weight, and no safeties in a giant rack.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2023, 12:46:26 PM
Way to go Columbo

Lol...I haven't watched the video yet.

What I meant is:

I don't want to watch it if the accident was unpreventable - like when Scott Mendelson dropped over a grand on himself, and somehow lived:



From what I'm reading above, the death in the OP video was completely preventable, and just the result of lifting stupidity. So it will be easier to watch, IMO.

PS - how did Mendelson survive that?  ???
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Matt on October 02, 2023, 12:56:38 PM
I just watched it.

That was easy to watch. If that happened to me, I'd be out of it fast - as Rob said.

As a matter of fact...I might try that with 185 or 225 or something, just to see how quickly I can get out of it.

What was strange to me was how much life he had left in him, yet didn't seem to do anything at all to get himself out?  ???

I admittedly do use clips while benching alone, but truly on weight I am 100% certain I could get out of.

Maybe max 265.

On 275+, working out alone, I'd ditch the clips.

If I know I can do something for 10-20+ reps, clips help stabilize the plates / keep them in position.

I only got 250x6 here [I had 7+ in me, but didn't want to do that, being alone], but I'm doing each rep in contest form here - so no risk to me:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxuEwWut2AE/

I would never do a max alone with no clips. But it seems like that goes without saying for everyone here.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: wes on October 02, 2023, 01:11:24 PM
I would never do a max alone with no clips. But it seems like that goes without saying for everyone here.
Not for the c unt known as Hanky...........he`s a real live fucking idiot!  ;D
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: IroNat on October 02, 2023, 01:37:30 PM
Don't bench press with collars, morons.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: GymnJuice on October 02, 2023, 02:56:41 PM
Just brutal and sad to see :( It looks like the far end of the bar got caught in the groove. Maybe that made it more difficult for him to push the weight aside. At first I thought he was unconscious for several moments. But then he started moving his legs.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 02, 2023, 03:56:12 PM
I just watched it.

That was easy to watch. If that happened to me, I'd be out of it fast - as Rob said.

As a matter of fact...I might try that with 185 or 225 or something, just to see how quickly I can get out of it.

What was strange to me was how much life he had left in him, yet didn't seem to do anything at all to get himself out?  ???

I admittedly do use clips while benching alone, but truly on weight I am 100% certain I could get out of.

Maybe max 265.

On 275+, working out alone, I'd ditch the clips.

If I know I can do something for 10-20+ reps, clips help stabilize the plates / keep them in position.

I only got 250x6 here [I had 7+ in me, but didn't want to do that, being alone], but I'm doing each rep in contest form here - so no risk to me:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxuEwWut2AE/

I would never do a max alone with no clips. But it seems like that goes without saying for everyone here.
fucks sake Matt
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Bevo on October 02, 2023, 04:21:32 PM
My friend told me about this. I didn't want to watch it.

Since I'm striving for a 370 bench now, to beat B. Hank's alleged best bench of 365 from 2002, I don't want to be deterred from it by internalizing any irrational views on bench press risks.

Would there be any benefit for me to watch it, with respect to that concern? Maybe to learn what not to do?

There was no way Bhanky ever did 365! Not now, not back then, not ever
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 02, 2023, 04:42:00 PM
I never use collars on the weight. I lift alone so I am always ready to dump the weight.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 02, 2023, 05:02:05 PM
What a fucking moron. The fuck would he need those collars for. And why are these videos always cut before the end. I want to see the actual moment of death. Why pussyfoot around? Like we're gonna show you everything's but not the point when he stops kicking cause that would be to cruel and immoral  ::)
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: robcguns on October 02, 2023, 05:16:09 PM
I never use collars on the weight. I lift alone so I am always ready to dump the weight.

Definitely.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Fortress on October 02, 2023, 05:55:39 PM
Absolutely horrible.

Poor fuck is just pinned. Lights slowly going out.

No one can say with certainty he’d be a success freeing himself in this exact situation. We’d like to imagine ourselves capable, but, really, there’s no way to KNOW know.

Yes, he was foolish, but we all are, at times. Especially when young.

The latter leg movements, etc. are more automated neurological impulses, however futile they were.

The panic, though, in those first seconds.

What a monstrous drag.

RIP, fella.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: robcguns on October 02, 2023, 05:59:24 PM
Absolutely horrible.

Poor fuck is just pinned. Lights slowly going out.

No one can say with certainty he’d be a success freeing himself in this exact situation. We’d like to imagine ourselves capable, but, really, there’s no way to KNOW know.

Yes, he was foolish, but we all are, at times. Especially when young.

The latter leg movements, etc. are more automated neurological impulses, however futile they were.

The panic, though, in those first seconds.

What a monstrous drag.

RIP, fella.

True, I just have to say it wouldn’t happen to me cause I just can’t accept this way of death but you are correct. Must have been just brutal. Still I can’t understand the situation.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Fortress on October 02, 2023, 06:05:20 PM
True, I just have to say it wouldn’t happen to me cause I just can’t accept this way of death but you are correct. Must have been just brutal. Still I can’t understand the situation.

And I understand your attempt to convince yourself it wouldn’t happen to you. Believe me, I would like to think I could manage to free myself, as well, but …

This is OUR world. So it is hugely upsetting for us.

Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 02, 2023, 07:11:55 PM

Even with the clamps,you tip it off to one side,possibly leveraging your whole body to that side and get the fuck out of there. Or you squirm back with the bar until it is on your chest and neck is safely behind the rack,and then try to sway it to one side. You never ever let it go to the neck. The guy was an idiot and had zero experience in the bench.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Flexacon on October 02, 2023, 07:27:51 PM
He pinned himself down as the bar fell back into the rack supports.

Collars or no collars he wouldn't have been able to slide or tip the bar to one side as the bar had effectively been reracked. Only way he could have got out of this is lifting the bar clean off the rack.

RIP MuscleMatters
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: hench on October 02, 2023, 08:43:13 PM
He seemed to last forever, clinging on for as long as possible but as mentioned he was probably already passed out as his arms weren't doing anything useful, just impulses maybe even a seizure?
I've been pinned before, rolled down the chest and ribs luckily. I had safety collars on but then i had my bench in my dads conservatory and the last thing i thought of back then was getting stuck, rather dont want weights crashing off and bar smashing through the window.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2023, 12:17:35 AM
If you train alone use dumbells FFS
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: robcguns on October 03, 2023, 03:31:11 AM
If you train alone use dumbells FFS

Pretty much, I don’t use a bar anymore for anything really.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Gym Rat on October 03, 2023, 08:09:16 AM
Pretty much, I don’t use a bar anymore for anything really.

I bench alone in my power-rack with perfectly set uprights. If I fail, its right at my chest.
I can then roll the bar back a bit toward my head and escape under it.

The powerlifting bench at the gym is the same, safety arms fit me perfectly.
Minor arch, I raise my chest a bit, but if I fail, I can collapse a little bit and get out...

If I am doing a PR or best-lift, I use a spotter...
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 03, 2023, 08:13:09 AM
fucks sake Matt

Quiet.  There is a potential opportunity here.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: IroNat on October 03, 2023, 09:22:44 AM
Darwin's Law.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: obsidian on October 03, 2023, 09:58:47 AM
If you're benching heavy weights, use a catch fellas! I think about this often. I train at odd hours with few if any people in the gym. Without safety catches it could turn deadly if I decided to push myself too much. Not fucking worth it!
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Cook on October 03, 2023, 10:36:52 AM
I train alone in my home gym but I am in metal fabrication and I have made safety racks for benching and squatting. It keeps anything like this from happening but also if you know you could be pinned under the bar you will be reluctant to try that extra rep.Stay safe guys
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: hench on October 03, 2023, 11:45:53 AM
Can you imagine how that felt resting freely on his throat, his head must have felt like it was going to explode, so long he had to think fuck I'm dead.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: G_Thang on October 03, 2023, 11:49:19 AM
If you are alone in the gym, it's machine day.  I had an Anytime Membership.  All solo night workouts were machines, maybe dumbbells for rows, rear delts and curls
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2023, 12:44:31 PM
Quiet.  There is a potential opportunity here.

he would certainly free up some bandwidth on here
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: bhank on October 03, 2023, 12:46:50 PM
Do not watch if bothered by such things, could have been avoided with proper uprights, supports, etc..

  :-\
Really bad

i=8W30TZvz_3E9R2RG

WTF I had to shut it down when it was on his neck
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: 38 returns on October 03, 2023, 12:50:12 PM
I pray the same happens to you Brian. It would be a tough wank but I'd rub one out knowing Em willl get the house and spencer can find a dad to be proud of.
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: bhank on October 03, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
My friend told me about this. I didn't want to watch it.

Since I'm striving for a 370 bench now, to beat B. Hank's alleged best bench of 365 from 2002, I don't want to be deterred from it by internalizing any irrational views on bench press risks.

Would there be any benefit for me to watch it, with respect to that concern? Maybe to learn what not to do?

I benched 365 the same year I benched 350X2 it was 2014 when I was 37 but yeah I also pressed 365 in 2003 when I was 25. I matched my lifetime max at 37. I watched the video to see if there was something to learn and no other than don't try and make it a decline bench arching your back like an idiot as you are just creating a slide to your neck.

If you don't like the 365 as no video that is fine there is a video of 350x2 if you get 355x2 that would work. But honestly why not just focus on getting to 350 first? That is my plan once there I obviously would like to get to 365 again but I am also realistic if I can get back to 350 after my injuries at my age I would be very happy with that. Regardless what anyone else lifts
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: joswift on October 03, 2023, 12:54:48 PM
I benched 365 the same year I benched 350X2 it was 2014 when I was 37 but yeah I also pressed 365 in 2003 when I was 25. I matched my lifetime max at 37. I watched the video to see if there was something to learn and no other than don't try and make it a decline bench arching your back like an idiot as you are just creating a slide to your neck.

If you don't like the 365 as no video that is fine there is a video of 350x2 if you get 355x2 that would work. But honestly why not just focus on getting to 350 first? That is my plan once there I obviously would like to get to 365 again but I am also realistic if I can get back to 350 after my injuries at my age I would be very happy with that. Regardless what anyone else lifts

what you did in the past may as well have not happened

Why do you keep forgetting your own rule?
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: 38 returns on October 03, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
I hope you fail at everything tou attempt Brian.

with your track record its a fair bet you could fuck up a cup off coffee



Oh and Brian I benched 405 in nick. No video. No gear
Title: Re: Disturbing Bench Press Death
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 03, 2023, 03:17:02 PM

What's really sad is that it's 250 that killed him....