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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: joshberry2000 on April 30, 2006, 02:09:10 AM
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NOW YOU GUYS WITH MORE LIFTING EXPIERENCE TELL ME IT'S BETTER TO GO DOWN AND TOUCH YOUR CHEST WITH THE RIGHT?
BECAUSE THERE'S A GUY THAT BRINGS THE BAR DOWN A GOOD 5 INCHES FROM HIS
CHEST AND WHEN I TELL HIM HE NEEDS TO GO ALL THE WAY HE SAYS YOU ONLY HAVE TO BEND YOUR ELBOWS 90 DEGREES.
BOTTOM LINE I THINK HE'S FULL OF SHIT AND CAN'T HANDLE THE HEAVIER WEIGHT'S THAT'S WHY HE LIFTS LIKE THAT WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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diferent guys say different things.
for me i say dont use barbell bench....but if you are going to, go all the way down in control, barely tap, then fire up..dont lock out.
charles glass will tell you only go to 90 degrees.
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I almost never benchpress, but if I do, all the way down. Only use about 220lb (100kg) for sets of 8-10, but at least with a proper technique.
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I almost never benchpress, but if I do, all the way down. Only use about 220lb (100kg) for sets of 8-10, but at least with a proper technique.
::) monster weight
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Just so you know, for some "bringing it all the way down" is overstretching the chest.
I know this because I have a stuffed chest from doing this.
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i stop an inch short of my chest
use to go all the way down but felt an excessive strain on my shoulders.
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Just so you know, for some "bringing it all the way down" is overstretching the chest.
I know this because I have a stuffed chest from doing this.
A stuffed chest? Explain, please.
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heY josh berry,stop posting pics which have been posted here a billion times.i think u r new here.go easy on the topics.damn i counted the topics,about half of them r from u and all useless.u r posting the most stalest topics of all time.DUDE GET OUTTA HERE...UR USELESS TOPICS R NOTHIN BUT R GOING TO B MOVED...u can't reach 1000 posts in a day.WAT A FREAK!!!!
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i normally go all the way down, but when i lift heavier.. it does strain my shoulders... i normally go a little below 90 degrees....
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go all the way down
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I hear alot on this board about people screwing their shoulders from BB bench. I also see people lowering the weight TO their shoulders, rather than just below their pecs (as instructed in the Arnold encyclopedia.)
How many of you have had shoulder injuries and lower it to your upper pecs/shoulders, and how many have been injured from lowering it to just below your pecs? Might be irrelevant, but you never know.
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heY josh berry,stop posting pics which have been posted here a billion times.i think u r new here.go easy on the topics.damn i counted the topics,about half of them r from u and all useless.u r posting the most stalest topics of all time.DUDE GET OUTTA HERE...UR USELESS TOPICS R NOTHIN BUT R GOING TO B MOVED...u can't reach 1000 posts in a day.WAT A FREAK!!!!
YEAH MY TOPICS ARE USELESS BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE NOT PRIVY TO MY LUCIUS FOX HOME TRAINING VIDEO
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YEAH MY TOPICS ARE USELESS BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE NOT PRIVY TO MY LUCIUS FOX HOME TRAINING VIDEO
hey dude ur an asshole.......try to type without caps....u r a kid who has just learnt how 2 type.WAT A FREAK..its so hard to read ur already useless posts
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A stuffed chest? Explain, please.
Well actually its shoulder/chest.
Benchpressing a lot of weight (for me) and quite obsessed with going all the way down. Brought it all the way down, pressed up, very painful coming down. No explosion that I remember. Just pain.
Shoulder and some parts of the pec (mostly shoulder->chest area and some inner pec) have not been right ever since.
Can't be bothered to go to get it looked at, I didn't train it for months and months and it didn't get any better. Nowadays I just "manage" it. A few months ago I tried a standard grip bench press and it tweaked it again. So moral of the story is I only do closegrips - no wide or standard grip. Dumbells are ok. Dips I get some pain from time to time. Flys are almost impossible to do with proper range.
In short.. "stuffed"
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what i do is arch my back and pin my shoulders down that way i stay locked in position
and can handle heavier weights
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YEAH MY TOPICS ARE USELESS BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE NOT PRIVY TO MY LUCIUS FOX HOME TRAINING VIDEO
What was this training video? ???
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hi lucius good morning
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In many ways pressing to just before you hit the chest is harder anyway.
You all know what I'm talking about.. partial weight distribution to the core and some good timing and you've got yourself a bigger bench.
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hi lucius good morning
Hello joshberry2000, have you accepted Christ into your life?
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i like to go down to an inch above my chest. i really believe that you should do whatever feels more natural though and find your own groove. some people are naturally more flexible than others. i suggest finding a comfortable range of motion, and then going slightly beyond that.
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"organized religion is for weak minded people" quoting jesse the body ventura
stick to the subject
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"organized religion is for weak minded people" quoting jesse the body ventura
stick to the subject
Stop posting irrelevant topics on the board ;D It sounds like you have denied Christ. It's never too late to change your mind. Contact any member of Team Jesus for more information.
In regards to the bench press; I usually go all the way down, but given my 36 inch chest and long arms, the lift is especially challenging.
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Whatever works chest the best-try stopping at different points short of touching the chest and decide.
Dumbbell benches are better and are less stressful.
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yeah i've been doing more dumbells lately but i thought to get a bigger chest you have to do wide grip
with the bar
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yeah i've been doing more dumbells lately but i thought to get a bigger chest you have to do wide grip
with the bar
yes because moving the bar 6inchs in stead of 15 is always a "winner" ::)
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On chest or lat work elbow positioning is key; a wide grip isn't essential. Many find that a medium grip's better on benches or pulldowns/chins. Determine which produces the best muscle stimulation. For example, some prefer machines including the Smith machine for benches because the hands can be placed at angles that result in more effective elbow positioning that can't be achieved with a barbell.
A thumbless grip can also help with keeping the elbows back for lat/chest work.
Milos discusses this thoroughly in this clip:
http://thefitshow.com/week3/milos_chest_med.htm
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You should always touch your chest with the bar. I think most of these guys who can't feel it in their chest aren't going all the way down. It is impossible to do a full ROM bench press without hitting the pec muscles hard.
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Speaking in absolutes about having to touch the bar and full ROM bench working so well for everyone is crap. Being just a little intelligent means some experimentation to find what works well for each individual and doesn't stress the joints.
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Speaking in absolutes about having to touch the bar and full ROM bench working so well for everyone is crap. Being just a little intelligent means some experimentation to find what works well for each individual and doesn't stress the joints.
translation=i do half reps.
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translation=i do half reps.
Bwahahahahaha... ;D
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I find it funny sometimes when people say don't do a full rep because it stresses the joints. The ONLY reason it stress the joints is because you are not strong enough for that much weight and you are not flexible. Its that simple. Every single exercise I do I go all the way down and all the way up. I have lifted heavy for 20+ years and have NEVER had any joint problems from lifting. The reason people have joint problems is lack of flexiability and lack of strength. Sure my joints would hurt to if I tried to lift a weight that was to heavy. So having the excuse of joint problems for lack of a full rep is bullshit. All it says is you need to get stronger and more flexible.
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translation=i do half reps.
Wrong again genius. More filler. :D
The ONLY reason it stress the joints is because you are not strong enough for that much weight and you are not flexible.
BS; the person who never had to deal with injury is the *last* one to speak on this for others. I'm surprised that hasn't occured to you.
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I find it funny sometimes when people say don't do a full rep because it stresses the joints. The ONLY reason it stress the joints is because you are not strong enough for that much weight and you are not flexible. Its that simple. Every single exercise I do I go all the way down and all the way up. I have lifted heavy for 20+ years and have NEVER had any joint problems from lifting. The reason people have joint problems is lack of flexiability and lack of strength. Sure my joints would hurt to if I tried to lift a weight that was to heavy. So having the excuse of joint problems for lack of a full rep is bullshit. All it says is you need to get stronger and more flexible.
I'll bet you were a real monster in the gym, throwing up 500 pound bench presses ::)
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Actually he goes heavy on benches. Lots of the natural benchers never have serious problems and are the *last* people to speak for others. Absurd generalization; speak for yourself not for others. Go and straighten out guys like Bob C. who hates benches because of injuries, remind him that if he only knew what you did he'd still be doing them. ::)
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I'll bet you were a real monster in the gym, throwing up 500 pound bench presses ::)
try 585 dickmunch.
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try 585 dickmunch.
I'm sure he did ::)
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try 585 dickmunch.
As a veteran bencher who knows so much, "sarcasm" will be proud to share with us some of his lifts.. ???
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As a veteran bencher who knows so much, "sarcasm" will be proud to share with us some of his lifts.. ???
i don't think my lifts are anything special, 385 bench, 315 incline, 140lb db's inclines for 5.
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i don't think my lifts are anything special, 385 bench, 315 incline, 140lb db's inclines for 5.
What's your marathon time?
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What's your marathon time?
3 days.
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Those numbers are solid; I won't be a dink like "sarcasm" and say anything. Are those numbers post-GH and were they done on your Total Gym..
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Those numbers are solid; I won't be a dink like "sarcasm" and say anything. Are those numbers post-GH and were they done on your Total Gym..
they're on the Bowflex. ;D
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I like to put 225 on and bounce it off my chest for reps guuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr! "monster bounce"
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I go all the way down, controlling the negative with no bounce, and explosive on the way up. The hand spacing is a little wider than shoulder width, which I find takes some stress off the shoulders as opposed to the standard wide grip.
i don't think my lifts are anything special, 385 bench, 315 incline, 140lb db's inclines for 5.
Your barbell incline bench should be higher, considering your strength with the flat barbell bench and DB inclines...
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I find it funny sometimes when people say don't do a full rep because it stresses the joints. The ONLY reason it stress the joints is because you are not strong enough for that much weight and you are not flexible. Its that simple. Every single exercise I do I go all the way down and all the way up. I have lifted heavy for 20+ years and have NEVER had any joint problems from lifting. The reason people have joint problems is lack of flexiability and lack of strength. Sure my joints would hurt to if I tried to lift a weight that was to heavy. So having the excuse of joint problems for lack of a full rep is bullshit. All it says is you need to get stronger and more flexible.
I have to disagree with you a little here. Form varies by body type and height. Angles change and range of motion change based on these (and more) factors. There is no perfect form that fits all people.
The average person here has lifted enough to know what feels right. They also (should) know what feels heavy and what feels plain old unconfortable.
Of course, many of the people that get hurt have poor form at the time or over long periods of time.
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Whatever works chest the best-try stopping at different points short of touching the chest and decide.
Dumbbell benches are better and are less stressful.
Not true - I always feel more stress on my shoulder doing dumbbells but never feel them on barbell bench - It will probably vary between
individuals though.
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I'll bet you were a real monster in the gym, throwing up 500 pound bench presses ::)
This aint 500 but I think it is 550 dipshit. When are going to learn just becasue you can type on a computer doesn't automatically make you have any knowledge in lifting. Really you should just sit back and learn from the real boys, not your friends you go to the mall with to play video games.
Like I always say, its funny how someone who has no idea on how to or has ever lifted heavy tells people how to lift. Shut-up and learn
By the way this photo was taken by Gene Mozee at Ray Mentzers gym Muscle Mill for M&F.
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This aint 500 but I think it is 550 dipshit. When are going to learn just becasue you can type on a computer doesn't automatically make you have any knowledge in lifting. Really you should just sit back and learn from the real boys, not your friends you go to the mall with to play video games.
Fake plates ::)
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What are you doing thesedays keith? (and this is not an invitation for criticise time, just wondering)
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anyone seen how Ruhl has done it in his videos? He uses a really wide grip and does partials not going low at all. If anyone has a thick chest it's him.
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Fake plates ::)
Another assinine remark from an ass. Lucious since you are such a monster in the gym and know everything please post a pic. We want to worship you so bad. You are making me feel so small and weak. Is there anything you can do to help me to get big and string like. Pleeeeeeeeeeease help me and everyone on Getbig to be like you. You are so massive. you are my new hero. Share your knowledge and many years of working out with us your fans. Thanks so much for sharing your stories and training knowledge
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What are you doing thesedays keith? (and this is not an invitation for criticise time, just wondering)
Just trianing, watching movies and working on losing the weight I gained after the bite. Muscle Mafia is my company and it is ding very well these days.
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Another assinine remark from an ass. Lucious since you are such a monster in the gym and know everything please post a pic. We want to worship you so bad. You are making me feel so small and weak. Is there anything you can do to help me to get big and string like. Pleeeeeeeeeeease help me and everyone on Getbig to be like you. You are so massive. you are my new hero. Share your knowledge and many years of working out with us your fans. Thanks so much for sharing your stories and training knowledge
I could tell that you used a pre-bent bar. I have seen them before. It's not even reasonable to compare us athletically because, while you were much stronger, I can dunk a basketball and run a half-marathon, all at 5-9 1/2 and 160 pounds.
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do you wanna get bigger?
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I could tell that you used a pre-bent bar. I have seen them before. It's not even reasonable to compare us athletically because, while you were much stronger, I can dunk a basketball and run a half-marathon, all at 5-9 1/2 and 160 pounds.
Son, you really embarrass yourself more and more. You should really learn to keep your piehole closed more often. Why do you persist on trying to make it look like you know something. Why would a regular gym do all this shit you are saying, (fake plates, pre-bent bars) I have come to the conclusion you are just stupid beyond any help. Son, please stay in school, graduate and then enter Devry or something. Give up on the make believe stuff. How sad you are. And if that is your real size you should consider once you hit puberty to start eating. Dude you're the size of high school girl. I can bet you can't dunk either or run a half marathon. Hell I can run a half 40 yard dash
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charles glass will tell you only go to 90 degrees.
Well, that is not true! It depend on what Charles is training you for~!!!!!!
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LuciusFox said that he does deadlifts and squats with rollerskates on. I shit you not.