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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: sarcasm on April 30, 2006, 01:31:05 PM
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in my opinion was the '03 Arnold Classic, i remember looking at the pics in Flex and being blown away, there was a picture of him and Ruhl in the rear double and Jay was absolutely owning Markus, i think Flex said Jay was like 257 at that show.
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i should say best showing pre 2005.
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2005 was his best only from the back. his back looked excellent, much improved last year, but from the front he had regressed, his midsection and obliques were out of control last year.
i would say his 2003 russian grand prix look.
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2003 ironman, it's not even up for debate. yeah he was good at the asc, but chris looked tighter and markus looked bigger. at the ironman he lived up to the name of the contest, legs looked sliced up enough to hold coins between the muscles.
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Cutler's best showing was in 2001 when he almost beat ronnie ,he has never being able to duplicate that conditioning again.
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Cutler's best showing was in 2001 when he almost beat ronnie ,he has never being able to duplicate that conditioning again.
Were u so busy partying u missed the O this year?
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Were u so busy partying u missed the O this year?
I go to the mr O every year bro, i would be crazy to miss the after parties where i can get a chance to bang a few fitness honeys.
But in 2001 is where he came the closest to winning the mr O.
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I go to the mr O every year bro, i would be crazy to miss the after parties where i can get a chance to bang a few fitness honeys.
But in 2001 is where he came the closest to winning the mr O.
yeah but there is another element in this equation - Ronnie
Jay was better this year but Ronnie is just a hell of a lot bigger than in 2001
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I'd say, not onstage, but in Ripped To Shreds. Guy looked the best he ever has, too bad it wasn't next to Coleman, he would have won for sure. :)
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So what about 06 guys?
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So what about 06 guys?
They will be announcing a new Mr Olympia!
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So what about 06 guys?
Will you be taking home the Sandow?
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2001 and 2005
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Haven't seen you onstage yet this year, so I can't say.
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Jay has matched Ronnie with sheer size... He just needs to get the detail and keep the midsection tight!
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I guess I need wider shoulders and bigger quads, its about illussion guys... we will get it done in 2006...how small can a waiste be on a guy that weighs 270? anyone have proof of a real measurement?
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No, they can't and never will.
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I guess I need wider shoulders and bigger quads, its about illussion guys... we will get it done in 2006...how small can a waiste be on a guy that weighs 270? anyone have proof of a real measurement?
So say hello back to Lat Pulldown Machine and Squat Racks?
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Just got done watching Jays new dvd "one step closer".. What a great, motivational dvd. IF you guys havent bought it, order it now.
It picks up where ripped to shreds left off, leads you into the 2005 MR O, post contest, footage, then the second dvd has Jay amping up his training for the offseason..tipping the scales at 292 and still in AMAZING shape..
I hope he wins this year..Ronnie is going to have his hands full..Cutler is going to make some "Coleman Cutlets" ;D
Btw, in 2005 Jay had the v taper and awesome midsection unlike someone esle..but it seems that the judges seem to allow it on that other guy, and dont dock him for it.
Its ok, bc those of us that know bodybuilding, you improve every year, and Jay is on Course to blow him out of the water.
Jays Quads/Hams/Calves are INSANE. COleman has big Quads but Jay has the hammies and calves going too..
Bodybuilding is just a tough cruel sport...it just goes with it. :'(
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I guess I need wider shoulders and bigger quads, its about illussion guys... we will get it done in 2006...how small can a waiste be on a guy that weighs 270? anyone have proof of a real measurement?
Jay, I have $100 bet going that you win the Olympia this year. It's with that 240 doofus on this board, I own his face. Anyway, on a serious note I do hope you take it home this year. Your shoulders are not a weakpoint at all. They are outstanding!
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It will be hard beating Ronnie though.
Even if Ronnie comes in looking off a bit, he still is the reigning Mr. O, and that may sway some judges his way.
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thats right, all free weights @ Golds Gym in Vegas, has anyone trained @ the Golds on Sahara and Decater??... We call it the dump. Its close to the Orleans so you should check it out during the O in Sept..
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Your shoulders are not a weakpoint at all. They are outstanding!
What Jay meant was he need to increase his shoulder width and quad size so that his waist won't looked wide
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I think that this year will be the greatest olympia ever. Ronnie going for the record, Jay going after him like a pitbull, Chris training with dorian so he will be a contender and there will be factors like James, Martinez, the Blade and maybe Preist.
Should be awesome!
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I guess I need wider shoulders and bigger quads, its about illussion guys... we will get it done in 2006...how small can a waiste be on a guy that weighs 270? anyone have proof of a real measurement?
Jay you're back was vastly improved this year. Standing next to Ronnie his only advantage this past O was his detail. I believe you can match this aspect also. What are you're doing differently training wise if anything this year?
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Jay when are you starting your contest dieting? In JUly?
Tim in PA
PS did you see this? what are your thoughts? ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=68792.0
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I am destoying my back since a week after the O last yr... its gonna be there..I start my diet in June, the second week... around 16 weeks out...I have done all I could do in the offseason this yr, this will be my best showing I hope.
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Jay, you deadlift every other week?
What's the major movement(s) the other week?
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I heard on MSNBC there is a huge shortage of ORANGE ROUGHY, and it is upsetting the balance of the Ecosystem! 8)
You animal JAY!
WOOHOOO! RONNIE IS GOING DOWN TO CHINA TOWN BABAY!
8)
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Nice man...... I hope you get it done also. I wrote in a previous thread which I lost track of about training at the Worcester Golds. I used to buy my supplements over at MGP on Goldstar blvd before all that stuff happened. Do you ever train at that gold when back in MA. I myself live in Boston but trained there occasionally with friends years ago
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Jay I honestly don't think anyone's gonna win with a small waist, that ain't the game. If they're gonna make you play Ronnie's game, don't worry about a wide waist, it's almost unavoidable at a certain size.
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^ True.
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Just tight and not distended..... We all know a 270 lb dude isn't going to have the waist of Melvin Anthony.... Coleman let his distend so much it has totally ruined him....
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it has totally ruined him....
Even tho he is still number one in the world??
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Whatever the outcome at the 06 Olympia, all I can say is that Jay is probably the hardest working bodybuilder out there. I have been following his career for awhile now, and I believe nobody puts out the effort that he does. Nobody diets as long, and hard as him. He stays focused all year round. Heck, last year he got back in to training hard for 06, right after the 05 Olympia. Jay, good luck on your training, and remember, you've been going up against the best bodybuilder of all time, and it's always hard to knock down the champion.
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jay your size and muscle mass is enough, and you have been getting cut enough as well....
ronnie beats you for one reason, shape.
make this your focus, keeping your midsection as tight as possible. the size is there. the cuts have been there. keep that midsection under control and that is the key to dethroning ronald, imo anyway.
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Jay cutler always has impressed me and i must say where is ur character bro? many ppl i talk with believe if you had more of a personality you would take the O the size is there no doubt but its almost like there just a body to it no character, i know its a serious game and all and I'm sure ppl are gonna go nutzzzzz on what i said but really think about it if ya had more of an attitude like kamali or some shit the fans would damand you take the title.( do you ppl know what i mean?? lol)
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What do want Jay to do? Climb the belltower?
lol haha no man u know what i mean no disrespect to jay he is a ledgend and will one day be mr O i just feel there no getting to know him like no personality to him nothing get what i mean?
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
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I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
I'm a big Shawn Ray fan too, Jay.
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Yea I hear you. It gets old hanging around people that never shut up.
Take ur own advice BdB or change ur name to hanging off cutlers dick sounds pretty good anyway in responce to JAY i respect that you keep to urself and id probably be the same way if i were in your shoes i was just making a point as a fan of the sport to what many ppl have said.
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Jay has blessed us here with his presence and his willingness to responed to queries from members. Anyone disrespecting him on here will find themselves in deep shit. Understood?
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
if you were outspoken and had an over the top personality people would give you shit as well.... bottom line some people out there are just assholes and cant be pleased
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if you were outspoken and had an over the top personality people would give you shit as well.... bottom line some people out there are just assholes and cant be pleased
WHOAAAAAAAA EZZZZZZZ pleased? dude i think its amazing that a bodybuilder of jays stature even takes the time to come on here dont get it twisted i have nothing bad to say about jay. JAY is by far one of the best.
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Even tho he is still number one in the world??
Yea Coleman is number one in the world and a freak of nature... But I don't think you could honestly tell me Mr Olympia should have a gut like he is sporting. He was one of the greatest back when his midsection was tight. But when he let himself sprout a small country on his midsection IMO he ruined all the greatness he had.
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WHOAAAAAAAA EZZZZZZZ pleased? dude i think its amazing that a bodybuilder of jays stature even takes the time to come on here dont get it twisted i have nothing bad to say about jay. JAY is by far one of the best.
well the fact is he is a bodybuilder who is judged purely on his body, its not miss world competition where personality is taken into consideration. in my opinion Jay is cool and a great role model (even tho he doesnt have to be)
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Yea Coleman is number one in the world and a freak of nature... But I don't think you could honestly tell me Mr Olympia should have a gut like he is sporting. He was one of the greatest back when his midsection was tight. But when he let himself sprout a small country on his midsection IMO he ruined all the greatness he had.
ok i conceade that his gut has gotten bigger, but so have his other body parts as well. he has taken muscular development to a new level..... his quads, biceps, chest and traps he has taken what is considered huge to a new level
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jay do u smoke weed
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jay do u smoke weed
If 'weed' is dex's nickname, then yes. Jay smokes weed.
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i was referring to cormiers but ill take that 8)
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in my opinion was the '03 Arnold Classic, i remember looking at the pics in Flex and being blown away, there was a picture of him and Ruhl in the rear double and Jay was absolutely owning Markus, i think Flex said Jay was like 257 at that show.
epic asskissing
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jay do u smoke weed
you serious man? i read an article that he sold his bike which he loves to ride cuz he had to focus more on bb you think he would smoke weed?( not that it would do any damage 2 his body) lol
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ok i conceade that his gut has gotten bigger, but so have his other body parts as well. he has taken muscular development to a new level..... his quads, biceps, chest and traps he has taken what is considered huge to a new level
Absolutely.... On a straight up freak basis Coleman is king..... The guy is a mutant.
And I can tell ya those black in whites of him with his shirt off doing a front double bi from the unbelievable show one of the greatest physiques ever....
To bad really since i think that look would have netted him Sandow after Sandow without the levels he has taken it to to achieve the same thing.
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the beast from the east is takin it home this year baby
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
lol @ "FAT MOUTHS"..Im the same way..I never had a name for these type of folks, now I do. ;) haha Thats great.
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Hi Jay.
I am a big fan of yours and I hope you win the '06 Olympia. From seeing pictures of you from past Olympias it seems that
Ronnie is a bit more dry in the glutes and lower back than you. Do you have a plan to change this?
A big fan. :)
Niels
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
jay cutler i respect u alot.ignore these stupid bastards.jay cutler ur the best .last year mr cutler u were big,full and had that grainy condition also.ur wheels were shredded to the limit.all the best to u IRON JAY.ignore these loud mouths assholes.they all suck.UR THE BEST IRON JAY.....lets see wat ronnie has to stand next to this year............JAY CUTLER RULZ
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Hey Jay i'm a huge fan. I loved your new dvd i got it off your site. Don't listen to the haters cause you are the best and when you win olympia this year i'm going to go crazy. If you keep training like an animal its yours! I want what you've got a brilliant physique money and in my opinion being the greatest bodybuilder in the world.
Also jay if you get the time could you please have a look a my thread in members pics and tell me if I have any chance of being a pro one day my thread is under members pics and it should say something like 16 y/o 4 months out or something thank you. Your biggest fan ;D
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I guess I need wider shoulders and bigger quads, its about illussion guys... we will get it done in 2006...how small can a waiste be on a guy that weighs 270? anyone have proof of a real measurement?
you seem to be genetically gifted in the shoulders and quad department Jay even more so than most IFBB pros so i don't think either of those things will be a problem, i've always said that Ronnie's waist is at the VERY LEAST 40 inches which ain't bad considering that his chest is damn near 60, i think anything under 38 is insane for a bb'er 270 and above. what do you plan on doing for quads and delts this year Jay?
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Jay, you got some real competition this year my friend. GO BRONCOS!
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I have met Jay, fairly recently, and I would say this is dead on. He listened to me talk and ask questions and he gave feedback and advice when necessary. Usually famous people talk just to hear their voice but most do not listen so it was a nice change. Glad you're posting here Jay.
famous people.....bwahahahahaha haha.... ;D
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Jay,
You guest posing for Chuckie Sanow in Chicago at the end of the month for the Illinois Show? Some say you are...some say you arent. What's the deal?
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(http://www.kulturistika.sk/pages/sutaze/vysledky/2002/2002arnold_classic_foto/cutler1.jpg)
2002 ASC
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cutler should be mr o based on the simple fact hes more complete then colemen! no mr o should have 2 twigs for calves wich throw off the entire proportion of his body! colemens calves belond on a 220 lb bodybuilder , not a 290 lber..
but ofcourse calves dont count on this level!
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cutler should be mr o based on the simple fact hes more complete then colemen! no mr o should have 2 twigs for calves wich throw off the entire proportion of his body! colemens calves belond on a 220 lb bodybuilder , not a 290 lber..
but ofcourse calves dont count on this level!
so what do you say about Jays chest?
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so what do you say about Jays chest?
its equall to the rest of his body , like it should be!
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its equall to the rest of his body , like it should be!
i dont think so, its his one lagging bodypart and part of the reason coleman looks so much more thicker in the upper body than him
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the problem with Jay's physique is that since his waist his so wide, his love handles look fat even when he's ripped to hell and depleted. . Just something i noticed in his new dvd
(http://www.power-on.tv/mr_olympia_2005_vorwahl/gross/Dpp_0017.jpg) VS (http://www.1st-muscle-guide.com/dexter-jackson-AC2005.jpg)
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(http://www.bodybuilders.com/jay8.jpg)
(http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/f_83.jpg)
(http://homepages.wmich.edu/~m2jackso/MG-JayCutler2.JPG)
(http://www.flexmagazine.co.uk/sei/s/1790/292.jpg)
(http://www.posedown.de/galerie/fibo-2001/l/001-008.jpg)
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ALL OLD PICS
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hey you guys can ride and suck jays dick all night but that aside there no doubt that he is an amazing bb but that doesn't change a thing he or anyone else will never win until Ronnie is out you know it i know it jay knows it
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YIP YIP LIGHT WEIGHT
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Light weight indeed
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Light weight indeed
sad thing is thats still not drug free
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
good post
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good post
spot on as usual
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I would say that the 2001 Mr Olympia, 2002 Arnold Classic, and 2006 Mr Olympia (because of the tremendous back mass) were Jays best showings.
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:o
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hey man, what you see is what you get, if you spoke to me face to face I think you would have a different opinion, I am just a low key guy, I only speak when I feel necessary, I take in a lot and don't say much until my time is called upon... I don't like to talk to hear myself talk ( I call these kind of people fat mouths...LOL)
Jay, are you calling Phil Heath a "fat mouth" here?