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Title: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2023, 07:54:05 AM
“Where’s the evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Prime

Joe Biden received $40,000 in laundered CEFC China Energy Co. money in 2017 from the account of his brother, James Biden, and sister-in-law, Sara Biden, once again in the form of a personal check labeled as a “loan repayment,” House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) uncovered Wednesday in a newly released bank records memorandum.

The revelation is the second instance Joe Biden personally accepted a suspicious personal check from his brother James, who was involved in the Biden family’s overseas business ventures. Joe Biden has denied any involvement in Biden family business ventures at least nine times.
The discovery justifies concerns raised by Republicans that the Biden business compromised Joe Biden. It also lends further credence to the impeachment inquiry into the president.

The $40,000 money trail began on July 30, 2017, when Hunter Biden demanded a $10 million payment from CEFC China Energy Co. associate Raymond Zhao. CEFC had close ties to the Chinese Communist Party. The Bidens launched their working relationship with CEFC when Joe Biden was vice president.

The laundered money trail took six steps, the committee said:

July 30, 2017: Hunter Biden put pressure on Zhao for a $10 million payment using the influence of Joe Biden, who was “sitting” in the room, according to a screenshot of a WhatsApp message from an IRS whistleblower in June.
August 8, 2017: Hunter-Biden-linked bank accounts received about $5 million in payments from Zhao within ten days of the text, using proximity to Joe Biden as a cudgel. (Northern International Capital, a Chinese company affiliated with CEFC, sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.)
August 8, 2017: On the same day, $400,000 was wired to Owasco, P.C. from Hudson West III, another entity controlled by the president’s son.
August 14, 2017: Hunter Biden then wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, an entity owned by Joe Biden’s brother, James Biden, and his wife, Sara Biden.
August 28, 2017: Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group. On the same day, Sara Biden deposited $50,000 into her shared personal checking account with James Biden.
September 3, 2017: Sara Biden wrote Joe Biden a check for $40,000 for a “loan repayment,” a method Republicans say is used to launder money.
“The extortion scheme worked,” Comer said in a statement. “It all began with a shakedown in the summer of 2017, when Hunter Biden sent a message to his CEFC associate demanding a $10 million capital payment.”

“In taking funds sourced to a CCP-linked company that wanted to advance China’s interests, Joe Biden exposed himself to future blackmail and put America’s interests behind his own desire for money,” added Comer, a former bank board member.

The revelation comes after Comer disclosed that Joe Biden received a $200,000 check from James Biden in 2018 — also noted as a loan. Comer believes the $200,000 payment is suspicious because the money flowed through a distressed entity, Americore, which loaned James Biden a total of $600,000. James Biden and the White House insist the check was not due to a pre-existing business relationship. James Biden insisted the money was a return payment for money Joe Biden lent him.

“Like the payment to Joe from Americore funds, it’s certainly plausible that this payment where James and Sara used funds from China was indeed a loan repayment to Joe,” Comer said. “But even if this $40,000 check was a loan repayment from James Biden, it still shows how Joe benefited from his family cashing in on his name – with money from China no less.”

The discoveries of payments received by Joe Biden are a result of subpoenaing James Biden. “The House Oversight Committee will continue to follow the money and will hold President Biden accountable for his corruption,” Comer reiterated.

Evidence unearthed against Joe Biden is growing. The evidence is here and here.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/01/james-comer-joe-biden-received-40000-in-china-money-again-disguised-as-loan-repayment/

https://www.scribd.com/document/681396645/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo-Source-House-Oversight-Committee


Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: deadz on November 01, 2023, 01:57:43 PM
Crickets from the Libturds.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 01, 2023, 02:03:58 PM
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 01, 2023, 05:12:19 PM
“Where’s the evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Prime

Joe Biden received $40,000 in laundered CEFC China Energy Co. money in 2017 from the account of his brother, James Biden, and sister-in-law, Sara Biden, once again in the form of a personal check labeled as a “loan repayment,” House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) uncovered Wednesday in a newly released bank records memorandum.

The revelation is the second instance Joe Biden personally accepted a suspicious personal check from his brother James, who was involved in the Biden family’s overseas business ventures. Joe Biden has denied any involvement in Biden family business ventures at least nine times.
The discovery justifies concerns raised by Republicans that the Biden business compromised Joe Biden. It also lends further credence to the impeachment inquiry into the president.

The $40,000 money trail began on July 30, 2017, when Hunter Biden demanded a $10 million payment from CEFC China Energy Co. associate Raymond Zhao. CEFC had close ties to the Chinese Communist Party. The Bidens launched their working relationship with CEFC when Joe Biden was vice president.

The laundered money trail took six steps, the committee said:

July 30, 2017: Hunter Biden put pressure on Zhao for a $10 million payment using the influence of Joe Biden, who was “sitting” in the room, according to a screenshot of a WhatsApp message from an IRS whistleblower in June.
August 8, 2017: Hunter-Biden-linked bank accounts received about $5 million in payments from Zhao within ten days of the text, using proximity to Joe Biden as a cudgel. (Northern International Capital, a Chinese company affiliated with CEFC, sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.)
August 8, 2017: On the same day, $400,000 was wired to Owasco, P.C. from Hudson West III, another entity controlled by the president’s son.
August 14, 2017: Hunter Biden then wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, an entity owned by Joe Biden’s brother, James Biden, and his wife, Sara Biden.
August 28, 2017: Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group. On the same day, Sara Biden deposited $50,000 into her shared personal checking account with James Biden.
September 3, 2017: Sara Biden wrote Joe Biden a check for $40,000 for a “loan repayment,” a method Republicans say is used to launder money.
“The extortion scheme worked,” Comer said in a statement. “It all began with a shakedown in the summer of 2017, when Hunter Biden sent a message to his CEFC associate demanding a $10 million capital payment.”

“In taking funds sourced to a CCP-linked company that wanted to advance China’s interests, Joe Biden exposed himself to future blackmail and put America’s interests behind his own desire for money,” added Comer, a former bank board member.

The revelation comes after Comer disclosed that Joe Biden received a $200,000 check from James Biden in 2018 — also noted as a loan. Comer believes the $200,000 payment is suspicious because the money flowed through a distressed entity, Americore, which loaned James Biden a total of $600,000. James Biden and the White House insist the check was not due to a pre-existing business relationship. James Biden insisted the money was a return payment for money Joe Biden lent him.

“Like the payment to Joe from Americore funds, it’s certainly plausible that this payment where James and Sara used funds from China was indeed a loan repayment to Joe,” Comer said. “But even if this $40,000 check was a loan repayment from James Biden, it still shows how Joe benefited from his family cashing in on his name – with money from China no less.”

The discoveries of payments received by Joe Biden are a result of subpoenaing James Biden. “The House Oversight Committee will continue to follow the money and will hold President Biden accountable for his corruption,” Comer reiterated.

Evidence unearthed against Joe Biden is growing. The evidence is here and here.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/01/james-comer-joe-biden-received-40000-in-china-money-again-disguised-as-loan-repayment/

https://www.scribd.com/document/681396645/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo-Source-House-Oversight-Committee

Remember all the skuttle butt about the $200,000 loan? Seems this went the way of the Dodo bird. LOL

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyMygRZaUI5ob9akdiXrqvZ0PAfXZRBXhIoccoXKN9tot0q3Rh)

Fact check: Evidence supports Democrats’ case that Joe Biden made a personal loan to his brother

https://www.news8000.com/news/politics/national-politics/fact-check-evidence-supports-democrats-case-that-joe-biden-made-a-personal-loan-to-his/article_ad51b62d-688e-5873-9d37-28fc7d2ae23d.html

Comer would do well to learn to keep his mouth shut until there is actual proof of something nefarious because his premature accusations are falling flat, and it makes him, and the rest of the committee look like idiots. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 01, 2023, 05:13:07 PM
Crickets from the Libturds.

Crickets back at you.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 01, 2023, 05:27:26 PM
Remember all the skuttle butt about the $200,000 loan? Seems this went the way of the Dodo bird. LOL

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyMygRZaUI5ob9akdiXrqvZ0PAfXZRBXhIoccoXKN9tot0q3Rh)

Fact check: Evidence supports Democrats’ case that Joe Biden made a personal loan to his brother

https://www.news8000.com/news/politics/national-politics/fact-check-evidence-supports-democrats-case-that-joe-biden-made-a-personal-loan-to-his/article_ad51b62d-688e-5873-9d37-28fc7d2ae23d.html

Comer would do well to learn to keep his mouth shut until there is actual proof of something nefarious because his premature accusations are falling flat, and it makes him, and the rest of the committee look like idiots.

You really love taking beatings don’t you? Lol
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Dos Equis on November 01, 2023, 05:48:41 PM
Remember all the skuttle butt about the $200,000 loan? Seems this went the way of the Dodo bird. LOL

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyMygRZaUI5ob9akdiXrqvZ0PAfXZRBXhIoccoXKN9tot0q3Rh)

Fact check: Evidence supports Democrats’ case that Joe Biden made a personal loan to his brother

https://www.news8000.com/news/politics/national-politics/fact-check-evidence-supports-democrats-case-that-joe-biden-made-a-personal-loan-to-his/article_ad51b62d-688e-5873-9d37-28fc7d2ae23d.html

Comer would do well to learn to keep his mouth shut until there is actual proof of something nefarious because his premature accusations are falling flat, and it makes him, and the rest of the committee look like idiots.

Your article deals with the $200k "loan," not the $40k "loan" that is the subject of Coach's thread.  And it doesn't matter if it was an actual loan.  Assuming it was, Joe Biden's brother used influence peddling to obtain the money, which benefitted Joe Biden. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 01, 2023, 11:58:54 PM
“Where’s the evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Prime

Joe Biden received $40,000 in laundered CEFC China Energy Co. money in 2017 from the account of his brother, James Biden, and sister-in-law, Sara Biden, once again in the form of a personal check labeled as a “loan repayment,” House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) uncovered Wednesday in a newly released bank records memorandum.

The revelation is the second instance Joe Biden personally accepted a suspicious personal check from his brother James, who was involved in the Biden family’s overseas business ventures. Joe Biden has denied any involvement in Biden family business ventures at least nine times.
The discovery justifies concerns raised by Republicans that the Biden business compromised Joe Biden. It also lends further credence to the impeachment inquiry into the president.

The $40,000 money trail began on July 30, 2017, when Hunter Biden demanded a $10 million payment from CEFC China Energy Co. associate Raymond Zhao. CEFC had close ties to the Chinese Communist Party. The Bidens launched their working relationship with CEFC when Joe Biden was vice president.

The laundered money trail took six steps, the committee said:

July 30, 2017: Hunter Biden put pressure on Zhao for a $10 million payment using the influence of Joe Biden, who was “sitting” in the room, according to a screenshot of a WhatsApp message from an IRS whistleblower in June.
August 8, 2017: Hunter-Biden-linked bank accounts received about $5 million in payments from Zhao within ten days of the text, using proximity to Joe Biden as a cudgel. (Northern International Capital, a Chinese company affiliated with CEFC, sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.)
August 8, 2017: On the same day, $400,000 was wired to Owasco, P.C. from Hudson West III, another entity controlled by the president’s son.
August 14, 2017: Hunter Biden then wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, an entity owned by Joe Biden’s brother, James Biden, and his wife, Sara Biden.
August 28, 2017: Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group. On the same day, Sara Biden deposited $50,000 into her shared personal checking account with James Biden.
September 3, 2017: Sara Biden wrote Joe Biden a check for $40,000 for a “loan repayment,” a method Republicans say is used to launder money.
“The extortion scheme worked,” Comer said in a statement. “It all began with a shakedown in the summer of 2017, when Hunter Biden sent a message to his CEFC associate demanding a $10 million capital payment.”

“In taking funds sourced to a CCP-linked company that wanted to advance China’s interests, Joe Biden exposed himself to future blackmail and put America’s interests behind his own desire for money,” added Comer, a former bank board member.

The revelation comes after Comer disclosed that Joe Biden received a $200,000 check from James Biden in 2018 — also noted as a loan. Comer believes the $200,000 payment is suspicious because the money flowed through a distressed entity, Americore, which loaned James Biden a total of $600,000. James Biden and the White House insist the check was not due to a pre-existing business relationship. James Biden insisted the money was a return payment for money Joe Biden lent him.

“Like the payment to Joe from Americore funds, it’s certainly plausible that this payment where James and Sara used funds from China was indeed a loan repayment to Joe,” Comer said. “But even if this $40,000 check was a loan repayment from James Biden, it still shows how Joe benefited from his family cashing in on his name – with money from China no less.”

The discoveries of payments received by Joe Biden are a result of subpoenaing James Biden. “The House Oversight Committee will continue to follow the money and will hold President Biden accountable for his corruption,” Comer reiterated.

Evidence unearthed against Joe Biden is growing. The evidence is here and here.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/11/01/james-comer-joe-biden-received-40000-in-china-money-again-disguised-as-loan-repayment/

https://www.scribd.com/document/681396645/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo-Source-House-Oversight-Committee

Speaking for me.. I've been on this board 20 plus years so let me say I take ANYTHING Coach posts with not just a grain of salt, but a teaspoon of salt hs we all know whether we are man enough to admit it or not, 90% of his posts are generally far right wing nonsense and backfire.  But my general position has been and will remain to be, that I don't have a liking for any politician currently alive today and in the house or senate. That would include the Whitehouse. IF it comes to light, and I've said this before, Biden is convicted of any crime, I would support him being held to the highest standard possible. No excuses, no, (He's being persecuted) as many Trumpsters cling to in spite of the evidence. I don't know him, never met him.. and I would not lose a nights sleep over BIden being charged. That is the main difference between  non Trump supporters and the rest
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 02, 2023, 08:53:06 AM
Speaking for me.. I've been on this board 20 plus years so let me say I take ANYTHING Coach posts with not just a grain of salt, but a teaspoon of salt hs we all know whether we are man enough to admit it or not, 90% of his posts are generally far right wing nonsense and backfire.  But my general position has been and will remain to be, that I don't have a liking for any politician currently alive today and in the house or senate. That would include the Whitehouse. IF it comes to light, and I've said this before, Biden is convicted of any crime, I would support him being held to the highest standard possible. No excuses, no, (He's being persecuted) as many Trumpsters cling to in spite of the evidence. I don't know him, never met him.. and I would not lose a nights sleep over BIden being charged. That is the main difference between  non Trump supporters and the rest

Since you take me with a grain of salt I’m assuming you’re implying that the article is wrong. Right? Mr. Russian Collusion is real because “fact check”, CNN, MSNBC and the rest of the Marxist pundits say so.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Gym Rat on November 02, 2023, 10:48:11 AM
Yet you and others jump on each and every post Coach does. GRain of salt my arse, he owns your mind 24 x 7...   ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 02, 2023, 11:45:46 AM
The money trail leads to Joe Biden

https://rumble.com/v3t8aq2-the-money-trail-leads-to-joe-biden-ep.-2123-11022023.html
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2023, 02:54:05 PM
You really love taking beatings don’t you? Lol

You really love posting ‘LOL’ and ‘owning’ nonsense while making stupid comments such as the above, while ignoring the actual topic. If you have knowledge of and can cite proof that the article which I linked is a false premise regarding the Biden family and their $200 K loan and repayment, then do that instead of posting idiotic babble. LOL indeed!  ::)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 02, 2023, 03:14:12 PM
You really love posting ‘LOL’ and ‘owning’ nonsense while making stupid comments such as the above, while ignoring the actual topic. If you have knowledge of and can cite proof that the article which I linked is a false premise regarding the Biden family and their $200 K loan and repayment, then do that instead of posting idiotic babble. LOL indeed!  ::)

I do because it’s literally comical. And as far asthe $200k, like I’ve posted and didn’t read, it took Dos to explain it to you and you still go off on your bullshit.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 02, 2023, 03:49:31 PM
I do because it’s literally comical. And as far asthe $200k, like I’ve posted and didn’t read, it took Dos to explain it to you and you still go off on your bullshit.

Are you saying that you don't read what you post? Some folks suspected this. I thought they were wrong. Now you admit to this, making their accusations correct.

Try to keep up. Dos' 'explanation' was at least two weeks ago. It is no longer relevant, not that it ever was. Eight days ago, Comer requested President Biden show proof of it being a loan. Two days ago, proof of this being alone is provided in the media. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 02, 2023, 05:23:46 PM
Are you saying that you don't read what you post? Some folks suspected this. I thought they were wrong. Now you admit to this, making their accusations correct.

Try to keep up. Dos' 'explanation' was at least two weeks ago. It is no longer relevant, not that it ever was. Eight days ago, Comer requested President Biden show proof of it being a loan. Two days ago, proof of this being alone is provided in the media.

Oh really?  Remember when you quoted a link from the Huffington Post which you didn't even read as proof of this?  If you don't recall, he's the quote from the article in your post:

Quote
The same day James Biden repaid his brother $200,000, he received a payment for the same amount from a for-profit hospital chain called Americore Health. In a bankruptcy filing last year, the company said it had loaned James Biden $600,000 in two installments “based upon representations that his last name, ‘Biden,’ could ‘open doors’ and that he could obtain a large investment from the Middle East based on his political connections.”

The large investment from the Middle East never materialized, and James Biden never repaid the loans, the company said.

There’s no doubt that James and Hunter Biden traded on their famous last name in ways that some ethics experts consider inherently corrupt, if not illegal. State Department officials have said that Hunter Biden’s position with a Ukrainian gas company created the appearance of a conflict of interest when Joe Biden oversaw Ukraine policy as vice president.

Bolded it to make it easier for you.  This is not nothing, it's another piece connecting the dots.

Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 02, 2023, 05:42:38 PM
Remember all the skuttle butt about the $200,000 loan? Seems this went the way of the Dodo bird. LOL

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyMygRZaUI5ob9akdiXrqvZ0PAfXZRBXhIoccoXKN9tot0q3Rh)

Fact check: Evidence supports Democrats’ case that Joe Biden made a personal loan to his brother

https://www.news8000.com/news/politics/national-politics/fact-check-evidence-supports-democrats-case-that-joe-biden-made-a-personal-loan-to-his/article_ad51b62d-688e-5873-9d37-28fc7d2ae23d.html

Comer would do well to learn to keep his mouth shut until there is actual proof of something nefarious because his premature accusations are falling flat, and it makes him, and the rest of the committee look like idiots.


Dude, are you retarded?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2023, 02:34:08 PM
Are you saying that you don't read what you post? Some folks suspected this. I thought they were wrong. Now you admit to this, making their accusations correct.

Try to keep up. Dos' 'explanation' was at least two weeks ago. It is no longer relevant, not that it ever was. Eight days ago, Comer requested President Biden show proof of it being a loan. Two days ago, proof of this being alone is provided in the media.

My explanation wasn't two weeks ago.  And it is entirely relevant.  It doesn't matter if Joe Biden loaned his brother $200k.  What matters is that his brother used Joe Biden's influence peddling to obtain $200k to "repay" Joe Biden, which means that Joe Biden unquestionably benefitted from this influence peddling. 
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 03, 2023, 03:07:55 PM
Oh really?  Remember when you quoted a link from the Huffington Post which you didn't even read as proof of this?  If you don't recall, he's the quote from the article in your post:

Bolded it to make it easier for you.  This is not nothing, it's another piece connecting the dots.

Grasping at straws much Grape Ape?

Tell me, when was that Huffington Post Article published? It is now November 3 and current articles regarding the $200,000 loan tell a different story... one which explains why Comer and his committee never got anywhere with their premature accusation... because it was a "nothing burger'. By the way, the part you bolded was not proof of squat. It was the author's opinion at that time. Opinions change in the real world, unlike on Getbig where some folks hold onto the past for dear life because they cannot deal with the present.

What is more, what does any of this have to do with the Coach's posts. Once again, you are jumping into someone else's  conversation with irrelevant comments. Sorry, not impressed.


Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: deadz on November 03, 2023, 03:09:50 PM
Grasping at straws much Grape Ape?

Tell me, when was that Huffington Post Article published? It is now November 3 and current articles regarding the $200,000 loan tell a different story... one which explains why Comer and his committee never got anywhere with their premature accusation... because it was a "nothing burger'. By the way, the part you bolded was not proof of squat. It was the author's opinion at that time. Opinions change in the real world, unlike on Getbig where some folks hold onto the past for dear life because they cannot deal with the present.

What is more, what does any of this have to do with the Coach's posts. Once again, you are jumping into someone else's  conversation with irrelevant comments. Sorry, not impressed.
You should be embarrassed old man, voting for the worst President in history, says a lot about your intelligence level. Probably why you spent your career cleaning shit out of toilets. Imbecile!
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 03, 2023, 03:41:00 PM
You should be embarrassed old man, voting for the worst President in history, says a lot about your intelligence level. Probably why you spent your career cleaning shit out of toilets. Imbecile!

 ::)
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: deadz on November 03, 2023, 05:52:19 PM
::)
I know I’m right, go roll your eyes at your incoherent President.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2023, 12:57:00 PM
Grasping at straws much Grape Ape?

Tell me, when was that Huffington Post Article published? It is now November 3 and current articles regarding the $200,000 loan tell a different story... one which explains why Comer and his committee never got anywhere with their premature accusation... because it was a "nothing burger'. By the way, the part you bolded was not proof of squat. It was the author's opinion at that time. Opinions change in the real world, unlike on Getbig where some folks hold onto the past for dear life because they cannot deal with the present.

What is more, what does any of this have to do with the Coach's posts. Once again, you are jumping into someone else's  conversation with irrelevant comments. Sorry, not impressed.

Washington Post
November 10, 2023

'Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), a constitutional lawyer by training, has taken a more reserved tone, both publicly and privately, urging members to conduct a thorough and fair investigation with no predetermined outcome. In a closed-door meeting with House GOP moderates this week, he indicated that there is insufficient evidence at the moment to initiate formal impeachment proceedings, according to people who attended the meeting.'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/10/biden-impeachment-inquiry-speaker-johnson/
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Gym Rat on November 12, 2023, 02:48:29 AM
You really love posting ‘LOL’ and ‘owning’ nonsense while making stupid comments such as the above, while ignoring the actual topic. If you have knowledge of and can cite proof that the article which I linked is a false premise regarding the Biden family and their $200 K loan and repayment, then do that instead of posting idiotic babble. LOL indeed!  ::)

You sukk glory-hole cock you disgusting pervert...
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Gym Rat on November 12, 2023, 02:50:10 AM
Joe is in the head of our local libturdz. With each post, it makes them go frantically search their favorite libturd news sites for a counter-point.
(Like its gospel coming from CNN)  ::)

How much do you charge  them for rent Joe??

Fukking owned!
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 12, 2023, 06:58:29 AM
Grasping at straws much Grape Ape?

Tell me, when was that Huffington Post Article published? It is now November 3 and current articles regarding the $200,000 loan tell a different story... one which explains why Comer and his committee never got anywhere with their premature accusation... because it was a "nothing burger'. By the way, the part you bolded was not proof of squat. It was the author's opinion at that time. Opinions change in the real world, unlike on Getbig where some folks hold onto the past for dear life because they cannot deal with the present.

What is more, what does any of this have to do with the Coach's posts. Once again, you are jumping into someone else's  conversation with irrelevant comments. Sorry, not impressed.

More straws to grasp:

Quote
The precedent for the new subpoenas was the discovery of two checks written to Joe from brother Jim and Jim’s wife, Sara. One check was for $200,000, another was for $40,000, and both contained the words “loan repayment” in the memo space.

The transfers came to Joe within days of the family getting large payments from clients that passed through a convoluted series of bank accounts obviously designed to obscure the source and ultimate recipients of the money.

One of the clients, a Chinese energy conglomerate, sent $5 million to a joint account controlled by Hunter Biden and a Chinese national. The money arrived days after Hunter said on a 2017 WhatsApp message to a company leader that he was sitting beside his father and both would never forget a failure to send the money, which Hunter claimed was owed for previous work.

According to Comer, soon after the $5 million landed, $400,000 was transferred to an account owned by Hunter.

He then wired $150,000 to another account controlled by Jim and Sara Biden.

She soon withdrew $50,000 in cash, deposited it into her and Jim’s personal checking account and days later, cut a check to Joe Biden for $40,000.

The amount, representing 10% of Hunter’s $400,000, matches the percentage of the deal Hunter was said to be secretly holding for the “big guy.”

Comer, who scoffs at the claim that both checks to Joe were loan repayments, demanded the White House produce paperwork “clarifying the nature of this payment and whether all applicable documentation and IRS filings were properly made.”

He got no response, but Comer made the most important point: Even if the payments were to cover loans, they still would prove the heart of the impeachment case — that the president directly benefited from his family’s schemes to sell his “brand.”

So far, the probe has found 20 shell companies, most of them created when Joe Biden was vice president.

It also identified $24 million the family and associates got over five years from foreign nationals in China, Russia, Ukraine, Romania and Kazakhstan.

Again, most of those payments were for work ostensibly done during Joe’s vice presidency, even if he received some payments when he was a private citizen, starting in 2017.

Yeah, all this is just legitimate business  ::)

https://nypost.com/2023/11/11/opinion/the-third-year-of-bidens-presidency-is-about-to-get-even-worse/
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2023, 09:22:53 AM
More straws to grasp:

Yeah, all this is just legitimate business  ::)

https://nypost.com/2023/11/11/opinion/the-third-year-of-bidens-presidency-is-about-to-get-even-worse/

I do not know if it was legitimate business or not. Like you and almost everyone else, we only know what we are told which could be right or it could be wrong. What I do know is that apparently, at this time there most likely is not enough evidence to impeach Biden otherwise why would the House Speaker say this and risk being the next Republican House Speaker to be ousted.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: deadz on November 12, 2023, 01:16:38 PM
Biden an associates are criminals anyone who believes otherwise has to be a delusional idiot!
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 12, 2023, 03:07:33 PM
I do not know if it was legitimate business or not. Like you and almost everyone else, we only know what we are told which could be right or it could be wrong. What I do know is that apparently, at this time there most likely is not enough evidence to impeach Biden otherwise why would the House Speaker say this and risk being the next Republican House Speaker to be ousted.

There's a difference.

We have actual evidence.  Enough, that, if partisan politics was off the table, most rational people would be curious to see where it goes.  There definitely appears to be an Occam's Razor type event here.  The fact that Biden's been proven lying twice in context to this also gives pause.

But it's being ignored by those who hate Trump and the Republicans, and is not getting national media coverage like it would if it were Trump.

So there is bias here.

Plus, if you read the article, there's subpoenas in play that are the next step in the process.  So there's really no saying this won't be "enough" for impeachment because the investigation isn't done.

That said, there wasn't legitimate evidence on Trump's Ukraine call, but it happened anyway, so who knows.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2023, 09:43:46 AM
There's a difference.

We have actual evidence.  Enough, that, if partisan politics was off the table, most rational people would be curious to see where it goes.  There definitely appears to be an Occam's Razor type event here.  The fact that Biden's been proven lying twice in context to this also gives pause.

But it's being ignored by those who hate Trump and the Republicans, and is not getting national media coverage like it would if it were Trump.

So there is bias here.

Plus, if you read the article, there's subpoenas in play that are the next step in the process.  So there's really no saying this won't be "enough" for impeachment because the investigation isn't done.

That said, there wasn't legitimate evidence on Trump's Ukraine call, but it happened anyway, so who knows.

None of the above answers the question, why would the House Speaker say there isn't enough evidence to impeach Biden?
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2023, 10:00:37 AM
None of the above answers the question, why would the House Speaker say there isn't enough evidence to impeach Biden?

Technically Biden can be impeached just on the open boarders alone, but to answer your question, because he wants MORE EVIDENCE to make it even more airtight, it's not that there isn't enough.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Gym Rat on November 14, 2023, 10:20:19 AM
Shitter Briben is the most corrupt politician in  history, yet braindead Prime caulk-sukker and others support him.
Total commie phaggotz...
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 14, 2023, 06:28:26 PM
Technically Biden can be impeached just on the open boarders alone, but to answer your question, because he wants MORE EVIDENCE to make it even more airtight, it's not that there isn't enough.

Or.. there isn't enough, which makes the most sense. IF there was enough it would have already taken place. But if that's what you tell yourself to stay in that bubble, godspeed
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: AbrahamG on November 14, 2023, 06:36:18 PM
Biden an associates are criminals anyone who believes otherwise has to be a delusional idiot!

Biden and associates are criminals.  Anyone who believes otherwise has to be a delusional idiot!

Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: illuminati on November 14, 2023, 06:37:07 PM
Or.. there isn't enough, which makes the most sense. IF there was enough it would have already taken place. But if that's what you tell yourself to stay in that bubble, godspeed

And your staying well inside your 😇 Pedo Joe Bubble thats for sure.

See No Evil
Hear No Evil
Speak No Evil
For 😇 Pedo Joe the Kiddie Sniffer is your Saviour.

I wish you Luck.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2023, 06:57:57 PM
Or.. there isn't enough, which makes the most sense. IF there was enough it would have already taken place. But if that's what you tell yourself to stay in that bubble, godspeed

There’s plenty with more findings everyday. There’s not just enough high crimes and misdemeanors but treason as well. There’s also enough there for removal and a conviction if he even lives that long to be tried. You take out a corrupt AG and one that actually follows law and constitution, there’s enough there for a death sentence although that wouldn’t happen
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 14, 2023, 07:14:30 PM
Hahahaha.  The best part of this is that Cormer is now being called out for doing the exact same thing that he claims Biden did.   :D
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 14, 2023, 07:16:29 PM
There’s plenty with more findings everyday. There’s not just enough high crimes and misdemeanors but treason as well. There’s also enough there for removal and a conviction if he even lives that long to be tried. You take out a corrupt AG and one that actually follows law and constitution, there’s enough there for a death sentence although that wouldn’t happen

I've heard frivolous "evidence" from the right for 3 years. First the election BS now we are into the Hunter Biden thing. Ok, as I've said before, let the chips fall where they may... IF you have enough evidence for impeachment,  we all know it would happen. You don't. If you are saying you haven't reached that threshold yet and are still building a case, Ok, I get that... but lets not for one second pretend the Republicans have enough now, and just want to build a better case. That's Breitbart, Newsmax BS at its finest. I understand Coach falling for it, he's sheep., But Illuminati, you know better
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 14, 2023, 07:24:29 PM
I've heard frivolous "evidence" from the right for 3 years. First the election BS now we are into the Hunter Biden thing. Ok, as I've said before, let the chips fall where they may... IF you have enough evidence for impeachment,  we all know it would happen. You don't. If you are saying you haven't reached that threshold yet and are still building a case, Ok, I get that... but lets not for one second pretend the Republicans have enough now, and just want to build a better case. That's Breitbart, Newsmax BS at its finest. I understand Coach falling for it, he's sheep., But Illuminati, you know better

Yeah, no one is calling Comers evidence frivolous except for maybe that political hack, Raskin. Most of the hard, real evidence has been posted and not just by me. Bank records aren’t “frivolous”, copies of $200k and $40k checks have are not on here but all over the internet along with emails, texts, recordings, affidavits, whistleblowers, etc. Not hard to find.l
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2023, 07:28:51 PM
Hahahaha.  The best part of this is that Cormer is now being called out for doing the exact same thing that he claims Biden did.   :D

C'mon man.

He got called out by a dipshit senator based on an article from the Daily Beast, saying that Comer gave his brother a 200k loan as well, and Comer was being a hypocrite.

However, he instantly debunked it - Comer's Dad left his brother a farm, which he wanted to keep in the family, but couldn't afford.  So Comer bought it for him.

No loan, no shell companies, no payments from Russians and Romanians.

Just a brother buying it for his brother, and setting up a legitimate LLC to manage 1000 acres of farm.

It was as weak as weak can get.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2023, 07:31:18 PM
I've heard frivolous "evidence" from the right for 3 years. First the election BS now we are into the Hunter Biden thing. Ok, as I've said before, let the chips fall where they may... IF you have enough evidence for impeachment,  we all know it would happen. You don't. If you are saying you haven't reached that threshold yet and are still building a case, Ok, I get that... but lets not for one second pretend the Republicans have enough now, and just want to build a better case. That's Breitbart, Newsmax BS at its finest. I understand Coach falling for it, he's sheep., But Illuminati, you know better

It's not sheep to piece together what's been presented as fact.

Put it another way - why do YOU think the Bidens received millions, set up multiple shell corps, and paid back loans to JB right after getting payments from Russians?  Why did Joe lie about it twice?

It's more sheep like to dismiss it than to think something's wrong here.

And this is from someone who REALLY doesn't want a President Harris, or really want to believe his President was this corrupt and stupid.  I've always thought Biden was hot headed, arrogant, on the wrong side of all foreign policy, then got old, etc....but I didn't think corrupt fit his character.  But the multiple lies, and all the facts presented do not look good.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 14, 2023, 07:34:32 PM
It's not sheep to piece together what's been presented as fact.

Put it another way - why do YOU think the Bidens received millions, set up multiple shell corps, and paid back loans to JB right after getting payments from Russians?  Why did Joe lie about it twice?

It's more sheep like to dismiss it than to think something's wrong here.

You and I are not privy to the bulk of the evidence. The Republicans certainly are.  My point is, if they had enough, they would follow through. Maybe next week they will, maybe next month they will. but only a gullible Republican would think they have it now and won't act on it
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 14, 2023, 08:39:49 PM
You and I are not privy to the bulk of the evidence. The Republicans certainly are.  My point is, if they had enough, they would follow through. Maybe next week they will, maybe next month they will. but only a gullible Republican would think they have it now and won't act on it

I dont think anyone here fits the bill of your last sentence.

Unlike the Trump Ukraine impeachment, the accusing party must have a pretty slam dunk case, because vulnerable R’s in blue areas won’t vote for it.  Not like the D party who will all vote how they’re told.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 15, 2023, 08:57:50 PM
I dont think anyone here fits the bill of your last sentence.

Unlike the Trump Ukraine impeachment, the accusing party must have a pretty slam dunk case, because vulnerable R’s in blue areas won’t vote for it.  Not like the D party who will all vote how they’re told.

If your theory was correct, no Dems would have voted with the Republicans in recent history and that's simply not accurate. The George Santos vote is a prime example
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 16, 2023, 06:22:16 AM
If your theory was correct, no Dems would have voted with the Republicans in recent history and that's simply not accurate. The George Santos vote is a prime example

When push comes to shove, the Democrats are far better at whipping up compliance on issues they want to get through the house.

We both feel the same about whatabboutism, but to use it here, if this exact situation were reversed, the democrats would have no issue getting this through the house even with a slim majority.   R's just can't do this.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 16, 2023, 07:45:19 AM
Hahahaha.  The best part of this is that Cormer is now being called out for doing the exact same thing that he claims Biden did.   :D

I read this too. How Ironic.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 16, 2023, 08:33:53 AM
I read this too. How Ironic.

It is literally not ironic at all, since it's not remotely the same, and he instantly debunked it.  What happened to you?  You used to have some objectivity.

C'mon man.

He got called out by a dipshit senator based on an article from the Daily Beast, saying that Comer gave his brother a 200k loan as well, and Comer was being a hypocrite.

However, he instantly debunked it - Comer's Dad left his brother a farm, which he wanted to keep in the family, but couldn't afford.  So Comer bought it for him.

No loan, no shell companies, no payments from Russians and Romanians.

Just a brother buying it for his brother, and setting up a legitimate LLC to manage 1000 acres of farm.

It was as weak as weak can get.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 16, 2023, 02:29:46 PM
It is literally not ironic at all, since it's not remotely the same, and he instantly debunked it.  What happened to you?  You used to have some objectivity.

It is very difficult to maintain objectivity when one spends too much time 'chewing the fat' with other Getbig folks.

Just curious, how long ago did Comer debunk this accusation?

https://newrepublic.com/post/176787/hypocrite-james-comer-brother-loan-joe-biden

https://www.newsweek.com/james-comer-family-loans-joe-biden-kentucky-republican-impeachment-inquiry-1842617

Help me be a little more objective.

Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 16, 2023, 02:40:47 PM
It is very difficult to maintain objectivity when one spends too much time 'chewing the fat' with other Getbig folks.

Just curious, how long ago did Comer debunk this accusation?

https://newrepublic.com/post/176787/hypocrite-james-comer-brother-loan-joe-biden

https://www.newsweek.com/james-comer-family-loans-joe-biden-kentucky-republican-impeachment-inquiry-1842617

Help me be a little more objective.

Literally at the time he was accused of it on the floor. The summary is in the quote I posted in response.

It's as if you responded to what Lurker posted as truth, didn't check the source, didn't read subsequent posts, and just ran with something that agreed with your view point.

When I saw Lurker's post, it didn't seem right, so a quick search showed it was political theater, and the article and congressmen were attempting to draw a parallel between two totally different things.  The only thing related was the amount of the checks, but the context is blatantly different.

It's the worst of politics - when one side knows they're completely wrong, yet does it any way to fool the uniformed and unintelligent.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Primemuscle on November 16, 2023, 04:23:07 PM
Literally at the time he was accused of it on the floor. The summary is in the quote I posted in response.

It's as if you responded to what Lurker posted as truth, didn't check the source, didn't read subsequent posts, and just ran with something that agreed with your view point.

When I saw Lurker's post, it didn't seem right, so a quick search showed it was political theater, and the article and congressmen were attempting to draw a parallel between two totally different things.  The only thing related was the amount of the checks, but the context is blatantly different.

It's the worst of politics - when one side knows they're completely wrong, yet does it any way to fool the uniformed and unintelligent.

Is the quote below the response you mentioned? I can't be sure because although the business arrangements and reasons were different, there was nothing debunking the total $200,000 figure. Which is the part that seemed like a weird coincidence and therefore struck me as being ironic. I don't think I said or suggested it was 'apples to apples'.

Really? Their dad sold Comer's brother an encumbered farm to keep it in the family which he could not afford so Comer lent him the money to buy it. Seems convoluted. If the dad’s goal was to keep the property in the family, why not just sell to whichever son could afford it or if possible, to both brothers jointly and let them work out the details between them, like families often do. What a weird transaction. Something does not add up…. please  explain.


C'mon man.

He got called out by a dipshit senator based on an article from the Daily Beast, saying that Comer gave his brother a 200k loan as well, and Comer was being a hypocrite.

However, he instantly debunked it - Comer's Dad left his brother a farm, which he wanted to keep in the family, but couldn't afford.  So Comer bought it for him.

No loan, no shell companies, no payments from Russians and Romanians.

Just a brother buying it for his brother, and setting up a legitimate LLC to manage 1000 acres of farm.

It was as weak as weak can get.


Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: Grape Ape on November 16, 2023, 05:37:15 PM
Is the quote below the response you mentioned? I can't be sure because although the business arrangements and reasons were different, there was nothing debunking the total $200,000 figure. Which is the part that seemed like a weird coincidence and therefore struck me as being ironic. I don't think I said or suggested it was 'apples to apples'.

Really? Their dad sold Comer's brother an encumbered farm to keep it in the family which he could not afford so Comer lent him the money to buy it. Seems convoluted. If the dad’s goal was to keep the property in the family, why not just sell to whichever son could afford it or if possible, to both brothers jointly and let them work out the details between them, like families often do. What a weird transaction. Something does not add up…. please  explain.

There was no loan - it was a gift from Comer.  Dad didn't sell anything - he willed it.  There's nothing strange about it at all.

Quote
“I’ve never loaned my brother one penny,” Comer explained. “My father, who was a dentist, had some farmland. He died and my brother couldn’t afford it. He wanted to sell it but he wanted to keep it in the family. So I bought it from my brother.”

But the DailyBeast ran this headline:  “James Comer, Like Joe Biden, Also Paid His Brother $200K.”

Disingenuous and misleading....as there are literally no similarities.  But to make it worse, a dumbass Congressman named James Moskowitz tried to draw the same parallel, and Comer schooled him.

So we have two sitiuations:

One where a brother bought an inherited piece of property as a gift to his brother for some land he couldn't afford to keep.

And another where a mysterious "loan repayment" check was written to a brother, right after his family received larges sums of money from Russian oligarchs/companies that were routed through shell companies first and then divided up.  Transactions and business dealings that said brother has been proven twice to have lied about.

It's not close to the same.
Title: Re: Joe Biden Received $40,000 in China Money Again Disguised as Loan Repayment
Post by: illuminati on November 17, 2023, 06:23:52 AM
I've heard frivolous "evidence" from the right for 3 years. First the election BS now we are into the Hunter Biden thing. Ok, as I've said before, let the chips fall where they may... IF you have enough evidence for impeachment,  we all know it would happen. You don't. If you are saying you haven't reached that threshold yet and are still building a case, Ok, I get that... but lets not for one second pretend the Republicans have enough now, and just want to build a better case. That's Breitbart, Newsmax BS at its finest. I understand Coach falling for it, he's sheep., But Illuminati, you know better

And you Know better than to say The southern boarder is closed .
It's "closed"  only in name as well you know there's 100-'s crossing over Illegally each month & Fuck all is being done to stop them.

When it could be quite easily- Stop with the BS Politico Speak & talk
straight & honest - Stop the pathetic word shenanigans  ::)