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Title: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 18, 2023, 02:24:39 PM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: deadz on December 18, 2023, 02:56:28 PM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....
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Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Taffin on December 18, 2023, 03:00:39 PM
Was MD really this bad.. ???
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 18, 2023, 03:40:29 PM
Was MD really this bad.. ???
You realize you just referred to the words of Arthur Jones as "really this bad"?

Feeling stupid now?
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Dave D on December 18, 2023, 03:42:54 PM
You realize you just referred to the words of Arthur Jones as "really this bad"?

Feeling stupid now?

AJ had his clients use anabolic compounds. You did not include these in your outline
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Taffin on December 18, 2023, 03:44:06 PM
You realize you just referred to the words of Arthur Jones as "really this bad"?

Feeling stupid now?

24/7 dude  ;D
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Hulkotron on December 18, 2023, 04:00:13 PM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....

Post your exact location tough guy.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: robcguns on December 18, 2023, 04:16:48 PM
Was MD really this bad.. ???

Yes, yes it was.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 18, 2023, 05:34:53 PM
4. One set of an exercise until failure

5. The optimal range of repetitions is 10 to 12

6. Each repetition should be of slow tempo.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: IroNat on December 18, 2023, 06:11:14 PM
Hey WT Male,

I had that book once upon a time.

Franco was a heckuva writer.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Dave D on December 18, 2023, 06:16:24 PM
AJ had his clients use anabolic compounds. You did not include these in your outline

Hey Train Run on Male,

How do anabolics figure into your methods? Is this a good program for naturals?

Also do you have a tricep and calf program?
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 18, 2023, 06:25:59 PM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....
Eat a bag of dicks gimmick !!
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 18, 2023, 06:32:53 PM
Eat a bag of dicks gimmick !!
Grow up
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 18, 2023, 06:36:46 PM
Grow up
No fucking way that`s  ever gonna happen dickless so just keep hoping!   :)
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 18, 2023, 07:07:01 PM
No fucking way that`s  ever gonna happen dickless so just keep hoping!   :)
So you will remain a child in an elderly man's body? Good luck with that. In the meantime I have no interest in interacting with you, so when I don't respond to any of your additional attempts to get my attention, you will know why.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 18, 2023, 07:09:14 PM
You are ignoring this loser.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 19, 2023, 12:48:37 AM
Great, another (s)HIT warrior and Mentzer jock sniffing fanboy. Just what we need.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: falco on December 19, 2023, 02:38:15 AM
4. One set of an exercise until failure

5. The optimal range of repetitions is 10 to 12

6. Each repetition should be of slow tempo.

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Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Kwon on December 19, 2023, 02:39:05 AM
So you will remain a child in an elderly man's body? Good luck with that. In the meantime I have no interest in interacting with you, so when I don't respond to any of your additional attempts to get my attention, you will know why.

How do you know he is elderly with your 8 posts?

Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 19, 2023, 02:48:32 AM
How do you know he is elderly with your 8 posts?
Define elderly.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 19, 2023, 02:59:35 AM
How do you know he is elderly with your 8 posts?
The same way I know you're operating multiple accounts
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 19, 2023, 03:02:37 AM
The same way I know you're operating multiple accounts
As if you aren`t !!  LOL  ;D

PHAGGOT!
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on December 20, 2023, 11:55:10 AM
7.Don’t look for ways to make an exercise easier, look for ways to make it harder.

8. A workout can be hard or a workout can be long. There is no such thing as a long hard workout.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: MajorDomo on December 20, 2023, 11:59:23 AM
If you are going to give advice on here you might want to show your build. Just saying.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 20, 2023, 12:14:51 PM
If you are going to give advice on here you might want to show your build. Just saying.
That`ll never happen !  ;D
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: MajorDomo on December 20, 2023, 01:25:29 PM
That`ll never happen !  ;D

I know, right? What's the old expression? "Those that can, do; those that can't teach" or something like that haha

Btw , the original "1 set to failure" idea came from a doctor in world war 2- Thomas DeLorme. Read what he said and then compare it to everybody who tries to claim it was their idea (even Arthur Jones), lol:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/this-70-year-old-workout-works-as-well-as-ever.html (https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/this-70-year-old-workout-works-as-well-as-ever.html)

"Using homemade equipment made of scrounged scrap metal and old narrow-gauge train wheels, DeLorme got seriously strong, to the point that he would stage lifting demonstrations at halftime during Alabama Football games—earning him the nickname "The Bama Hercules." But he also got seriously educated. He went to medical school and became an army physician during WWII. After the war ended, he began experimenting with weight training as a rehab technique for the vast population of injured soldiers coming back from battle.

In 1945, DeLorme's work culminated in a paper, "Restoration of muscle power by heavy-resistance exercises," published in the Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery.

In 300 cases, he found "splendid response in muscle hypertrophy and power, together with symptomatic relief," by following his method of 7-10 sets of 10 reps for a total of 70-100 repetitions each workout. The weight would start off light for the first set, and then get progressively heavier until a 10RM load was achieved.

Sound like a lot of volume? He thought so, too. By 1948 and 1951, DeLorme and his co-author Arthur Watkins, M.D., noted, "Further experience has shown this figure to be too high and that in most cases a total of 20-30 repetitions is far more satisfactory. Fewer repetitions permit exercise with heavier muscle loads, thereby yielding greater and more rapid muscle hypertrophy."

A series of articles and books followed where DeLorme and Watkins recommend 3 sets of 10 reps using a progressively heavier weight in the following manner:

Set 1: 50 percent of 10-repetition maximum
Set 2: 75 percent of 10-repetition maximum (Later, many started just doing 5 reps here, which I prefer, as well.)
Set 3: 100 percent of 10-repetition maximum

The DeLorme protocol recommends the Overhead press as one of several exercises.
In this scheme, only the last set is performed to the limit. The first 2 sets can be considered warm-ups. Simple enough, right? But this approach inspired more than just standard issue 3x10 workouts. It's also the template for high-intensity training, where you go all-out after a couple of warm-ups. And DeLorme and Watkins knew their rep scheme was definitely not the only approach.

"By advocating 3 sets of exercise of 10 repetitions per set, the likelihood that other combinations might be just as effective is not overlooked," they wrote in their 1951 book "Progressive Resistance Exercise." "Incredible as it may seem, many athletes have developed great power and yet have never employed more than 5 repetitions in a single exercise."

Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 20, 2023, 03:32:06 PM
I know, right? What's the old expression? "Those that can, do; those that can't teach" or something like that haha

Btw , the original "1 set to failure" idea came from a doctor in world war 2- Thomas DeLorme. Read what he said and then compare it to everybody who tries to claim it was their idea (even Arthur Jones), lol:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/this-70-year-old-workout-works-as-well-as-ever.html (https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/this-70-year-old-workout-works-as-well-as-ever.html)

"Using homemade equipment made of scrounged scrap metal and old narrow-gauge train wheels, DeLorme got seriously strong, to the point that he would stage lifting demonstrations at halftime during Alabama Football games—earning him the nickname "The Bama Hercules." But he also got seriously educated. He went to medical school and became an army physician during WWII. After the war ended, he began experimenting with weight training as a rehab technique for the vast population of injured soldiers coming back from battle.

In 1945, DeLorme's work culminated in a paper, "Restoration of muscle power by heavy-resistance exercises," published in the Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery.

In 300 cases, he found "splendid response in muscle hypertrophy and power, together with symptomatic relief," by following his method of 7-10 sets of 10 reps for a total of 70-100 repetitions each workout. The weight would start off light for the first set, and then get progressively heavier until a 10RM load was achieved.

Sound like a lot of volume? He thought so, too. By 1948 and 1951, DeLorme and his co-author Arthur Watkins, M.D., noted, "Further experience has shown this figure to be too high and that in most cases a total of 20-30 repetitions is far more satisfactory. Fewer repetitions permit exercise with heavier muscle loads, thereby yielding greater and more rapid muscle hypertrophy."

A series of articles and books followed where DeLorme and Watkins recommend 3 sets of 10 reps using a progressively heavier weight in the following manner:

Set 1: 50 percent of 10-repetition maximum
Set 2: 75 percent of 10-repetition maximum (Later, many started just doing 5 reps here, which I prefer, as well.)
Set 3: 100 percent of 10-repetition maximum

The DeLorme protocol recommends the Overhead press as one of several exercises.
In this scheme, only the last set is performed to the limit. The first 2 sets can be considered warm-ups. Simple enough, right? But this approach inspired more than just standard issue 3x10 workouts. It's also the template for high-intensity training, where you go all-out after a couple of warm-ups. And DeLorme and Watkins knew their rep scheme was definitely not the only approach.

"By advocating 3 sets of exercise of 10 repetitions per set, the likelihood that other combinations might be just as effective is not overlooked," they wrote in their 1951 book "Progressive Resistance Exercise." "Incredible as it may seem, many athletes have developed great power and yet have never employed more than 5 repetitions in a single exercise."


Good stuff.......I know a lot of "Iron Game" history but never heard this.

Thanks for sharing brother!  ;)
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: IroNat on December 20, 2023, 04:35:35 PM
Define elderly.

Methusalah.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 20, 2023, 06:18:34 PM
Methusalah.
Way too young,but I do like younger chicks.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 20, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....
.

Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: falco on December 21, 2023, 01:24:04 AM
Exercise should be:

1. Brief

2. Intense

3. Infrequent

Stay tuned....

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Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: deadz on December 21, 2023, 03:06:27 PM
Way too young,but I do like younger chicks.
What's not to like, as long as they keep their mouth closed unless they are putting their lips to good use.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: bhank on December 21, 2023, 03:09:44 PM
That`ll never happen !  ;D

Pot meet kettle
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 21, 2023, 03:39:22 PM
There is nothing new under the sun. I remember when someone was pushing whole body routines as something new calling it HST.  I could go on with so many examples. Nothing is new.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 21, 2023, 04:32:13 PM
What's not to like, as long as they keep their mouth closed unless they are putting their lips to good use.
Ya know deadz...we think quite a bit alike..........its almost uncanny.  ;D
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: deadz on December 21, 2023, 06:47:13 PM
Ya know deadz...we think quite a bit alike..........its almost uncanny.  ;D
;)
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 22, 2023, 12:37:59 AM
There is nothing new under the sun. I remember when someone was pushing whole body routines as something new calling it HST.  I could go on with so many examples. Nothing is new.
Resistance training has been around since at least the Greek Empire. To think you are inventing something new is very arrogant and delusional.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: bhank on December 22, 2023, 04:44:55 AM
Let me break it down. All training works. Somethings work better than other things but there is no such thing as bad exercise. One set is absolutely better than no sets one rep is better than none
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on December 22, 2023, 12:19:54 PM
Let me break it down. All training works. Somethings work better than other things but there is no such thing as bad exercise. One set is absolutely better than no sets one rep is better than none
        ^
Brutal AND true!
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: wes on December 22, 2023, 10:41:05 PM
        ^
Brutal AND true!
One set is hardly enough to make any inroads to progress.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Kwon on December 23, 2023, 06:50:04 AM
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Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 25, 2023, 04:58:35 AM
One set is hardly enough to make any inroads to progress.
have to agree unless its a set of 50 to 100 reps you may be just fine with that

But honestly gains are washed away from a night of bad sleep and too much work, there are fluctuations but zero natty gains for seasoned vet past 26to28.  Start training at 10 to 12 is best and peak 18 to 20 .

Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: robcguns on December 25, 2023, 05:40:26 AM
have to agree unless its a set of 50 to 100 reps you may be just fine with that

But honestly gains are washed away from a night of bad sleep and too much work, there are fluctuations but zero natty gains for seasoned vet past 26to28.  Start training at 10 to 12 is best and peak 18 to 20 .

No way. I was making decent gains in early 40s natty and that’s starting at 13-14. Then doc put me on trt and now gains are pretty crazy mid 40s.
Title: Re: Want to build muscle?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 26, 2023, 12:28:09 AM
No way. I was making decent gains in early 40s natty and that’s starting at 13-14. Then doc put me on trt and now gains are pretty crazy mid 40s.
Continuous gains, or stop and start back up gains?