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Title: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on December 29, 2023, 06:23:11 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marriage/comments/14aleau/new_glow_baptist_church/

Black Women goin crazy over this new "fictional" church :D
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/church-for-the-streets-new-glow-baptist-church-bringing-a-new-meaning-to-%E2%80%9Ccome-as-you-are%E2%80%9D.5138201/

Some Men want to change church
https://briefly.co.za/people/151494-video-women-shaking-booty-church-leaves-mzansi-peeps-disbelief-interested/

Churches today
https://www.naijaremix.com/entertainment/shocking-video-of-girls-twerking-in-church-sets-social-media-on-fire/
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: IroNat on December 29, 2023, 06:59:21 AM
Organized religions are cults.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on December 29, 2023, 08:13:34 AM
Organized religions are cults.

True

And the religious scriptures were written by some old dudes with too much time on their hands back in the day anyways

No more truth in the Bible than in L Ron Hubbards Books
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Rmj11 on December 29, 2023, 10:50:03 AM
Both are dead.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Royalty on December 29, 2023, 11:33:42 AM
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Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: ElPolloSalmonello on December 29, 2023, 08:14:59 PM
I got married in a house and then a  rice field - all ceremonial. I'm not religious but we did have a Buddhist ceremony for the wife.

I'm not a big fan of the law either - so we didn't get married legally until 16 years later. Can't be too careful.

And if you think that took a long time - I have jobs around the house that the wife has nagged me about for longer.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Dave D on December 29, 2023, 08:42:57 PM
True

And the religious scriptures were written by some old dudes with too much time on their hands back in the day anyways

No more truth in the Bible than in L Ron Hubbards Books

That’s an interesting take.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: AbrahamG on December 29, 2023, 10:46:49 PM
That’s an interesting take.

Early childhood religious education is the original "grooming". 

Pretend that religion as we know it didn't exist.  We spent the 1st 40-50 years of our lives learning reading, writing, arithmetic, science, etc.  Then one day someone comes to you with 2 books.  One is the Bible the other is Star Wars.  I posit one is no more far fetched than the other but gun to my head I'd say the Bible has more unbelievable stories than Star Wars or any other science fiction.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Bevo on December 29, 2023, 11:38:05 PM
Early childhood religious education is the original "grooming". 

Pretend that religion as we know it didn't exist.  We spent the 1st 40-50 years of our lives learning reading, writing, arithmetic, science, etc.  Then one day someone comes to you with 2 books.  One is the Bible the other is Star Wars.  I posit one is no more far fetched than the other but gun to my head I'd say the Bible has more unbelievable stories than Star Wars or any other science fiction.

Religion is all bullshit
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on December 30, 2023, 12:03:53 AM
I got married in a house and then a  rice field - all ceremonial. I'm not religious but we did have a Buddhist ceremony for the wife.

I'm not a big fan of the law either - so we didn't get married legally until 16 years later. Can't be too careful.

And if you think that took a long time - I have jobs around the house that the wife has nagged me about for longer.

Married in a rice field? Never heard of that

How does that work?

All the people standing in the rice field?
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 30, 2023, 12:37:38 AM
True

And the religious scriptures were written by some old dudes with too much time on their hands back in the day anyways

No more truth in the Bible than in L Ron Hubbards Books
Ever read any L. Ron Hubbard books? There's some good stuff in there.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on December 30, 2023, 03:11:11 AM
Ever read any L. Ron Hubbard books? There's some good stuff in there.

I had his book "Dianetics" in the 70s

The book which they call "Book One" by Scientologists.

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Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: IroNat on December 30, 2023, 04:32:54 AM
I read Dianetics years ago too.
Very interesting.
The whole "auditing" idea is kind of a modern take on the Catholic Rite of Confession.
Unfortunately the powers in Scientology appear to use the very personal information gained as a means of control.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Dave D on December 30, 2023, 07:48:30 AM
Early childhood religious education is the original "grooming". 

Pretend that religion as we know it didn't exist.  We spent the 1st 40-50 years of our lives learning reading, writing, arithmetic, science, etc.  Then one day someone comes to you with 2 books.  One is the Bible the other is Star Wars.  I posit one is no more far fetched than the other but gun to my head I'd say the Bible has more unbelievable stories than Star Wars or any other science fiction.

I agree that religion is for the most part worthless and definitely is a form of grooming; but to say Star Wars is more realistic than the Bible is ludicrous. No matter what you believe  Bible at least contains some historical facts.

 For centuries the virgin birth of Jesus seemed like a fairy tale; today it is a scientific possibility that virgin can be artificially inseminated and give birth without ever having sex.  Noah and the ark also seems like a ridiculous story but many scientists agree that a major flood took place on earth that wiped out a large portion of life.

People can believe what they want and recent history proves this true; look no further than the covid pandemic. Obviously if we believe something from early childhood it becomes a bedrock foundation of our life and we accept it those beliefs as true. The true fool is the one who never examines those beliefs and evaluates why they believe what they do.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Scott on December 30, 2023, 08:24:37 PM
I find no fault in the teachings of the Nazarene.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: AbrahamG on December 30, 2023, 08:29:26 PM
I find no fault in the teachings of the Nazarene.

Even if he didn't exist, the idea of Jesus is beautiful.  My problem is that most Christians ignore his teachings and revert to the Old Testament barbarism in spite of the fact that Jesus came with a new covenant which should have rendered the Old Testament irrelevant or given back to the Jews.  I don't mean that to disparage my Jewish friends either. 
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 01, 2024, 12:16:52 AM
I read Dianetics years ago too.
Very interesting.
The whole "auditing" idea is kind of a modern take on the Catholic Rite of Confession.
Unfortunately the powers in Scientology appear to use the very personal information gained as a means of control.
Yeah, the leaders are just bilking the dumb dumbs who pay them money. Miscavige is in his 60's now and has been chain smoking since his teens so his time should be up soon. If he dies maybe Tom Cruise will be the new leader. 8)
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: MajorDomo on January 01, 2024, 10:38:12 AM
Early childhood religious education is the original "grooming". 

Pretend that religion as we know it didn't exist.  We spent the 1st 40-50 years of our lives learning reading, writing, arithmetic, science, etc.  Then one day someone comes to you with 2 books.  One is the Bible the other is Star Wars.  I posit one is no more far fetched than the other but gun to my head I'd say the Bible has more unbelievable stories than Star Wars or any other science fiction.

Wait - what? You don't believe someone would turn into a pillar of salt by looking at a city being destroyed? lol
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 01, 2024, 10:49:13 AM
This board made me believe God was a joke......a fictional character..........I became a doubting Thomas even after surviving Catholic school in the 60`s, and having been brainwashed by the cult that the Catholic religion is....... and trust me if you survived it in the 1960`s you were a bad muthafucker.

I can go into it but I won`t, but someone is watching over me and I don`t think it`s "Felix The Cat" so I now have renewed faith that God exists.

I`m just not that lucky to have survived the laundry list of shit that I have been through without some help from "up above" if you will.

I thank God several times a day that I`m alive, where at various points in my life I couldn`t have cared less if I woke up in the morning.

I don`t go to church and do not believe in any organized bullshit religion I just have my own philosophy which is to try to do the right thing everyday.......if I  fail,I try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on January 01, 2024, 10:50:29 AM
Only reason i am alive today is thanks to Felix the Cat.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 01, 2024, 10:56:15 AM
Only reason i am alive today is thanks to Felix the Cat.
God will  get you for that Kwon.   :D
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Scott on January 01, 2024, 11:36:46 AM
This board made me believe God was a joke......a fictional character..........I became a doubting Thomas even after surviving Catholic school in the 60`s, and having been brainwashed by the cult that the Catholic religion is....... and trust me if you survived it in the 1960`s you were a bad muthafucker.

I can go into it but I won`t, but someone is watching over me and I don`t think it`s "Felix The Cat" so I now have renewed faith that God exists.

I`m just not that lucky to have survived the laundry list of shit that I have been through without some help from "up above" if you will.

I thank God several times a day that I`m alive, where at various points in my life I couldn`t have cared less if I woke up in the morning.

I don`t go to church and do not believe in any organized bullshit religion I just have my own philosophy which is to try to do the right thing everyday.......if I  fail,I try again tomorrow.

Having been dead, I can attest to there being someone and more, brother.   Your words are well said, brother.   I used to tell people God requires neither a house nor money from us.  You cannot buy salvation.  You cannot earn salvation.   It is given freely.    I had a friend that got mad at me because I am not as learned as many pastors with degrees. 

I simply told him that is pretty much what the Rabbis said about the Nazarene.  He was just a carpenter and they were educated men.

When the Nazarene forgave the woman caught in adultery (strange is it not that the men who caught her failed to catch the man she was with?) He said, "Go.  And sin no more" not "Go and sin some more".   

I can no longer claim to be Christian because I do not walk the Faith and refuse to be just another christian.  Either I live His teachings or not.   But what I hold true I will state without hesitation. 

You are a good man, Wes.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: deadz on January 01, 2024, 11:37:46 AM
Organized religions are cults.
I avoid religious freaks.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Fortress on January 01, 2024, 01:35:14 PM
“There was an intergalactic alien ruler named Xenu”

 :o
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: _bruce_ on January 01, 2024, 01:37:44 PM

Hubbard was way ahead of his time - the church that was formed "due to him" is unfortunately a scam.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Fortress on January 01, 2024, 01:55:18 PM
Hubbard was way ahead of his time - the church that was formed "due to him" is unfortunately a scam.

Imagine being Tom Cruise and buying fully into the fiction of a failed and long-dead fantasy author.

Complete loon

But Fortress gives him a pass because of Top Gun: Maverick.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Kwon on January 01, 2024, 02:23:19 PM
Imagine being Tom Cruise and buying fully into the fiction of a failed and long-dead fantasy author.

Complete loon

But Fortress gives him a pass because of Top Gun: Maverick.

The big question is, is Tom really "buying into the fiction" or is he using it for his own purpose? He seems to have advanced the ranks pretty quickly.

Apparently he is a major figure and bigshot in Scientology (just like Travolta) and can use the "religion" and the followers for different purposes / porpoise / belugas

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Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 01, 2024, 02:30:14 PM
Having been dead, I can attest to there being someone and more, brother.   Your words are well said, brother.   I used to tell people God requires neither a house nor money from us.  You cannot buy salvation.  You cannot earn salvation.   It is given freely.    I had a friend that got mad at me because I am not as learned as many pastors with degrees. 

I simply told him that is pretty much what the Rabbis said about the Nazarene.  He was just a carpenter and they were educated men.

When the Nazarene forgave the woman caught in adultery (strange is it not that the men who caught her failed to catch the man she was with?) He said, "Go.  And sin no more" not "Go and sin some more".   

I can no longer claim to be Christian because I do not walk the Faith and refuse to be just another christian.  Either I live His teachings or not.   But what I hold true I will state without hesitation. 

You are a good man, Wes.
As are you my friend.

Been pronounced dead on three different occasions.........I won`t go into detail, but I`m thankful to be here with you assorted nutbags!  :)
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: ThisisOverload on January 01, 2024, 04:37:17 PM
I know some really smart people who are 100% onboard with religion, be it one or the other. Whether it's Baby Jesus or Buddha.

When i asked my best friend about it years ago, his answer was very simple to understand.

He just said "what if there is a chance of an afterlife? What if i get the spend eternity with all the people i love?"

Makes sense on a basic level, and why i believe most people follow religion to some extent or another.

Or people like my mother who grew up very religious and made their entire life about religion. I think it's completely illogical to live this way, but i can see why it gives her peace.

I was raised in a very overbearing religious family, and by the time i was 14 i knew it was all bullshit and a method to control people. I've spent many years studying different religions and traveling the world to experience different cultures, religion on a base level is a very good thing.

And as long as people leave me alone about it and don't try to force it down my throat, i could care less what they believe.

The world would be a terrible place if the majority of humans were not religious and didn't believe in good/bad or heaven/hell to some degree.

That's why i think it's good to have religion.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Scott on January 01, 2024, 04:45:39 PM
When I had "religion" explained it thus:  I don't have "religion", I have Faith in the Nazarene.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 01, 2024, 06:14:54 PM
I just have my own philosophy.....I`m dead set against religion cuz it`s bullshit IMO.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Zillotch on January 01, 2024, 06:27:48 PM
declaring religion to b bullshit is a drastic understatement.

religion is the most dangerous thing in the world... by far.

a system of doctrinal dictates can lead the lost into all manner of evil.

those who control earth, right now, r wholly religious.. and entirely wicked.

religion is devoid of God.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 02, 2024, 12:33:46 AM
declaring religion to b bullshit is a drastic understatement.

religion is the most dangerous thing in the world... by far.

a system of doctrinal dictates can lead the lost into all manner of evil.

those who control earth, right now, r wholly religious.. and entirely wicked.

religion is devoid of God.
I would argue that governments are much worse.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on January 02, 2024, 01:29:18 PM
The ONLY way to discover LOGIC in the Bible is through the perspective of The Kingdom Hall. Then the Bible  comes together with mathematical precision.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 02, 2024, 02:31:32 PM
The ONLY way to discover LOGIC in the Bible is through the perspective of The Kingdom Hall. Then the Bible  comes together with mathematical precision.

That was a bit witty.......but try harder.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 03, 2024, 12:12:24 AM
The ONLY way to discover LOGIC in the Bible is through the perspective of The Kingdom Hall. Then the Bible  comes together with mathematical precision.
Are you a JW?
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: IroNat on January 03, 2024, 04:22:47 AM
Travolta attributes his career success to Scientology.

He was a mentally struggling actor until he took it up.

Cruise's mother was into Scientology.

There are some logical aspects to Scientology but it goes off the deep end when aliens from outer space come into the picture.

It's interesting how some religions get started and really take off.

Religions are multi-level marketing schemes.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 03, 2024, 10:17:09 AM
Travolta attributes his career success to Scientology.

He was a mentally struggling actor until he took it up.

Cruise's mother was into Scientology.

There are some logical aspects to Scientology but it goes off the deep end when aliens from outer space come into the picture.

It's interesting how some religions get started and really take off.

Religions are multi-level marketing schemes.
Just don`t drink the freakin` Kool Aid !!   :D
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Weight Trained Male on January 03, 2024, 10:22:52 AM
Are you a JW?
Let's just say I know my way around The Watchtower.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: IroNat on January 03, 2024, 11:59:55 AM
Let's just say I know my way around The Watchtower.

Jimi Hendrix fan?
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: wes on January 03, 2024, 12:11:40 PM
Jimi Hendrix fan?
He seems more like a Dylan fan to me.
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: The Scott on January 03, 2024, 05:14:22 PM
Are you a JW?

I'd like to buy a vowel, if I may?
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Zillotch on January 03, 2024, 10:02:54 PM
I would argue that governments are much worse.

governmental institutions (effectively systems of 'doctrinal dictates' (underpinning policy)) are, collectively - an instrument of control:

declaring religion to b bullshit is a drastic understatement.

religion is the most dangerous thing in the world... by far.

a system of doctrinal dictates can lead the lost into all manner of evil.

those who control earth, right now, r wholly religious.. and entirely wicked.

politics is not real, but it is a religion (pick ur flavor)
Title: Re: Marriage and Churches
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 04, 2024, 12:27:22 AM
governmental institutions (effectively systems of 'doctrinal dictates' (underpinning policy)) are, collectively - an instrument of control:

politics is not real, but it is a religion (pick ur flavor)
Yep. Governments also have the legal power to lock a person up or destroy them financially.