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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: LurkerNoMore on January 02, 2024, 05:57:59 PM
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I took a short personal vacation a few days over NYE. Read this on my ipad over those few days. (Almost finished, but not quite). Some notable writings :
When he first went to the mecca in Venice, he was 29 years old, 205lbs, 29" waist and 20" arms.
For over 15 years he had worked out on a whole body routine every day, rarely taking a day off and doing a total of 75 sets for the entire body. When he got to Venice, he started following the split training style that was popular then, doing a total of about 25 sets for the entire workout.
By the time he arrived in Venice, he had entered close to 300 contests.
He was always the best guy on stage, but promoters did not want to give 1st place to a black guy in those times. He would win every "Best Body Part" category and then place 4-5th in the show. The audience mostly boo'd because no one could figure out how someone would win every single best body part and still lose the show.
(I think) He said Louisiana was the first state to give him a 1st place overall trophy. And then again at a top amateur level.
If even 1/4th of what he wrote about how the Weider's treated him is accurate, he was pretty dicked over by them.
(No word yet about how much he looted from other people's gym bags. :D )
While looking like a homeless man now, he apparently made some really nice coin over the years. He had a sponsor that paid him $10,000 a month for years and he was one of the most sought after guest posers / seminar speakers in Europe. Based on quick math from what he wrote, he probably made close to a million in the last four years alone when he lived in Amsterdam. That's not counting all the time he spent in Europe in other places and global hopping with appearances. I think he said he was getting $2000 for an hour seminar in the mid 80s and doing several a week.
He considered his back one of the best until Samir came along, then sought to catch up and overcome Samir. But at a show where he was standing behind Haney and Haney's back blocked out all light coming from the front of him, he decided why bother because he would never catch Haney's development.
The decision by the judges to place him first and as winner in the first Master's O, left the Weiders absolutely distraught. It was obvious long before the contest that Lou was supposed to win. They only invited Robby to enter because Lou needed someone with a name to beat. Lou was already celebrating basically when they called his name for second place. He was in shock when they said 2nd place.
The Weider's only gave him a contract when the WBF started up. When the WBF closed in 18 months, they terminated his contract the next day.
Ok, that's it so far. It's an interesting read. I am sure some is exaggerated or made up completely.
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All bullsh*t.
Dude lies like a rug.
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All bullsh*t.
Dude lies like a rug.
True.
However, out of curiosity I did google some of the dates/locations/people who were with him and for the Euro jaunts, they sort of add up.
The rest.... you probably right.
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I thought the book was surprisingly a good read. I wonder if he wrote it? When I ordered it my wallet was upstairs so I asked my wife for her credit card. So I ordered it as Valerie. When the book came I was surprised when I found Robby wrote on the inside, "Muscles are sexy Valerie."
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
Did you ever try to snag a puff off of Robby's pickle?
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
Quite easily when the judging criteria didn't just allow for the low IQ muscle for the sake of just muscle, which ended up ruining the sport, you have to be kidding Zane was a freak, an artist when bodybuilding was an actual form of art, not like the cheap drugged up graffiti look of today.
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I thought the book was surprisingly a good read. I wonder if he wrote it? When I ordered it my wallet was upstairs so I asked my wife for her credit card. So I ordered it as Valerie. When the book came I was surprised when I found Robby wrote on the inside, "Muscles are sexy Valerie."
Im surprised if Robbie was that personally involved in the book and its delivery that he didn't steal your credit card numbers, ;D great physique and a legend of the sport, but Robby is a shit dude man and the race thing and blaming his behaviour on it got old in the 90s, he won master Olympia when he was good enough he then lost it to sonny the next year when he wasn't.
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Quite easily when the judging criteria didn't just allow for the low IQ muscle for the sake of just muscle, which ended up ruining the sport, you have to be kidding Zane was a freak, an artist when bodybuilding was an actual form of art, not like the cheap drugged up graffiti look of today.
I never understand those that act as if Zane was not an incredible BB. His physique was phenomenal.
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
Still butthurt from 45 years ago when Zane said you have been in Fantasyland all your life?
Zane is one of the most deserving Olympia winners.
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
Sergio won twice before Zane ever sniffed an Olympia trophy. Dickerson and Haney both had no trouble winning O's over white bodybuilders in the 80's.
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You just added another story to his tent.
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Good old Joe Weider and his pursuit of wealth using bodybuilders and others. How on earth did Frank Zane win the Olympia 3 times? Maybe his photos sold more magazines than black guys like Robby and Sergio?
As mentioned, Sergio won and high placed in the Olympia multiple times, Zane was never a factor against him. Also the only time you could say Robbie might have beaten Zane was '78. In '77, he was 3rd in the overall behind Zane and Corney. '79 he was 3 in the under #200 behind Zane and Boyer, and narrowly edged Dickerson. It's a mountain between 3rd and 1st ya supinating sourpuss ;D.
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By the time he arrived in Venice, he had entered close to 300 contests.
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IMPOSSIBLE.......unless he started competing at 3 years of age.
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I dated a girl named Robbie Robinson when I was in high school. White girl. Didn't lift weights. Just sayin'... :-\
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What does "Hustler" have to do with Muscle?
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Everything’s racist according to this cunt
Doesn't automatically win every contest he enters = racist
People don’t want him around as he steals everything not fastened down = racist
People don’t give to his lazy fucking bum go fund me shit = racist
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I thought the book was surprisingly a good read. I wonder if he wrote it? When I ordered it my wallet was upstairs so I asked my wife for her credit card. So I ordered it as Valerie. When the book came I was surprised when I found Robby wrote on the inside, "Muscles are sexy Valerie."
Creepy bastard (him not you LOL)
I tried to find his last GoFundMe but failed - I wonder if it's been pulled down?
And what did Robbingcunt do with all that money he talks about? People rip on Yates being small but he really seems to have played this smartly in terms of health and long-term finance
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Dude smells horrible, drives a broken down junkheap, constantly complains about everything.
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Creepy bastard (him not you LOL)
I tried to find his last GoFundMe but failed - I wonder if it's been pulled down?
And what did Robbingcunt do with all that money he talks about? People rip on Yates being small but he really seems to have played this smartly in terms of health and long-term finance
Closed it - https://www.gofundme.com/f/robby-robinson-medical-support . Originally he wanted $25,000, then he started pulling the "Why won't my 70,000 fans donate?" angle that killed the thing. I bunch of Euro-schmoes, and younger kids tried to get him a social media thing going, and they all gave up. The younger guys just said he became a pain in the ass to work for. Less and less work, while trying to change the split.
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Robby was a black whore. He & Arnold loved the cock.
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I thought the book was surprisingly a good read. I wonder if he wrote it? When I ordered it my wallet was upstairs so I asked my wife for her credit card. So I ordered it as Valerie. When the book came I was surprised when I found Robby wrote on the inside, "Muscles are sexy Valerie."
OMG!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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OMG!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
If you want to see it I guess I can dig up the book in my basement and take a picture.
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Has Robby ever been accused of rape? Credible or otherwise?
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Has Robby ever been accused of rape? Credible or otherwise?
And was it observed by any GetBiggers with the initial V..? ;D
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And was it observed by any GetBiggers with the initial V..? ;D
He most likely blackened Betty Weider, right? I'll bet Joe let Ben watch with them beating the daylights out of their respective cocks.
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Has Robby ever been accused of rape? Credible or otherwise?
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He most likely blackened Betty Weider, right? I'll bet Joe let Ben watch with him beating the daylights out of their respective cocks.
LOL!
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Has Robby ever been accused of rape? Credible or otherwise?
i never heard of any such allegations, but his eye color always was
pepperspray red.
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Robby's always been kinda square, never heard of him being handsy.
His ex-wife did accuse Arnold of being a titty bobbler though -
"The earliest incident of the six described to the Times was said to have occurred in 1975 at Gold's Gym near Venice Beach, Calif. E. Laine Stockton, then newly married to professional bodybuilder Robby Robinson, said she had come to the gym to watch her husband work out.
Stockton was 19 at the time. She said she was wearing slacks, tennis shoes and a loose-fitting T-shirt. She said she was not wearing a bra.
As she sat on an exercise bench, Stockton said, Schwarzenegger walked up behind her, reached his left hand under her T-shirt and touched her bare left breast.
"The gym is full of bodybuilders and Arnold comes and he gropes my breast -- actually touches my breast with his left hand," she said.
She said Schwarzenegger then walked away without comment."
Top middle here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/10/03/if-i-was-a-man-i-would-bust-your-jaw/6c3acaeb-cfb5-402d-8ce4-3b719f7dc2c9/ .
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He most likely blackened Betty Weider, right? I'll bet Joe let Ben watch with them beating the daylights out of their respective cocks.
Not respective - a little known Weider Principle was the avoidance of the sin of Onanism by performing repetitions to failure upon each others love-muscle
And yes, word is that Betty received the RobbyBabyBatter at the same time
i never heard of any such allegations, but his eye color always was
pepperspray red.
HAHAHAAA - that is such a subtle way of suggesting someone is a bit rapey! Brilliant - I'm stealing that to see if I can get away with it in mainstream sh1t - thanks for the legit LOL ;D
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I dated a girl named Robbie Robinson when I was in high school. White girl. Didn't lift weights. Just sayin'... :-\
It's weird how your past is triggered by minor things in life. So hard to resist the temptation of looking them up on social media.
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I'll definitely give it a read. He reminds me of Bertil, if true, Fox in his dissatisfaction of his placings and career. Weiders didn't have it in for Black bodybuilders but back then white bbs seemed more mainstream friendly. Just how it was. He had opportunities to do well himself back then but expected them to hand it over on a plate
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I'll definitely give it a read. He reminds me of Bertil, if true, Fox in his dissatisfaction of his placings and career. Weiders didn't have it in for Black bodybuilders but back then white bbs seemed more mainstream friendly. Just how it was. He had opportunities to do well himself back then but expected them to hand it over on a plate
i read back in the 80s they told Robbie that if he cut the dreads or whatever that nappyheaded
shit was and dressed nicer he would win.
he refused and lost. i believe the same changes would have made kai green mr. O
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Robby's always been kinda square, never heard of him being handsy.
His ex-wife did accuse Arnold of being a titty bobbler though -
"The earliest incident of the six described to the Times was said to have occurred in 1975 at Gold's Gym near Venice Beach, Calif. E. Laine Stockton, then newly married to professional bodybuilder Robby Robinson, said she had come to the gym to watch her husband work out.
Stockton was 19 at the time. She said she was wearing slacks, tennis shoes and a loose-fitting T-shirt. She said she was not wearing a bra.
As she sat on an exercise bench, Stockton said, Schwarzenegger walked up behind her, reached his left hand under her T-shirt and touched her bare left breast.
"The gym is full of bodybuilders and Arnold comes and he gropes my breast -- actually touches my breast with his left hand," she said.
She said Schwarzenegger then walked away without comment."
Top middle here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/10/03/if-i-was-a-man-i-would-bust-your-jaw/6c3acaeb-cfb5-402d-8ce4-3b719f7dc2c9/ .
was that wrong ?
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Robby's always been kinda square, never heard of him being handsy.
His ex-wife did accuse Arnold of being a titty bobbler though -
"The earliest incident of the six described to the Times was said to have occurred in 1975 at Gold's Gym near Venice Beach, Calif. E. Laine Stockton, then newly married to professional bodybuilder Robby Robinson, said she had come to the gym to watch her husband work out.
Stockton was 19 at the time. She said she was wearing slacks, tennis shoes and a loose-fitting T-shirt. She said she was not wearing a bra.
As she sat on an exercise bench, Stockton said, Schwarzenegger walked up behind her, reached his left hand under her T-shirt and touched her bare left breast.
"The gym is full of bodybuilders and Arnold comes and he gropes my breast -- actually touches my breast with his left hand," she said.
She said Schwarzenegger then walked away without comment."
Top middle here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2003/10/03/if-i-was-a-man-i-would-bust-your-jaw/6c3acaeb-cfb5-402d-8ce4-3b719f7dc2c9/ .
I miss the 70's. ;D
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He said that Franco winning the O was the worst travesty to ever occur. He also talked about people trying to figure out why Dickerson's elbows were getting all pointy.
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He said that Franco winning the O was the worst travesty to ever occur. He also talked about people trying to figure out why Dickerson's elbows were getting all pointy.
monkey growth hormone,
or as robbie calls it, growth hormome
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monkey growth hormone,
or as robbie calls it, growth hormome
Hazbin with some damn funny zingers lately!
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Hazbin with some damn funny zingers lately!
acct must be hacked, lmfao
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Has Robby ever been accused of rape? Credible or otherwise?
Bevo has !!!
In a men’s room urinal
He’s always prowling around in public restrooms
A janitor caught him in the act, and beat the fuck out him. 😃
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monkey growth hormone,
or as robbie calls it, growth hormome
Could age and torn triceps have contributed to that?
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Still butthurt from 45 years ago when Zane said you have been in Fantasyland all your life?
Zane is one of the most deserving Olympia winners.
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He looked outstanding.
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He looked outstanding.
i'd look exactly like this if i trained wheels and ate more food ;D
but with better delts and tris and worse quads, calves and bis
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Robby was born too soon.
He would be much more successful in today's anti-white society.
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i'd look exactly like this if i trained wheels and ate more food ;D
but with better delts and tris and worse quads, calves and bis
Smart of you not to train to look as good as Zane when you can look like a lightbulb. 8)
Maybe you should just train legs a little bit:
3 sets each of leg press/squat, 3 sets leg extensions, 3 sets leg curls, 3 sets standing/seated calf raises.
Take you 1/2 hour if that.
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Smart of you not to train to look as good as Zane when you can look like a lightbulb. 8)
Maybe you should just train legs a little bit:
3 sets each or leg press/squat, 3 sets leg extensions, 3 sets leg curls, 3 sets standing/seated calf raises.
Take you 1/2 hour if that.
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gotta wait til my leg heals from the surgery
it will be like another 3-4 weeks doc said
i put 6.5 pounds of pure lean dry muscle tissue on my legs in 6 weeks so if i decide to so this will happen once again, oh and i did this natural ;)
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Could age and torn triceps have contributed to that?
no
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He looked outstanding.
Zane looked like a bronze God. No homo.
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Could age and torn triceps have contributed to that?
Some really think it was "monkey growth hormone" but I'm positive no type of growth hormone had anything to do with it. I think it's some type of calcium deposiits, can't remember the name of the condition.
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Some really think it was "monkey growth hormone" but I'm positive no type of growth hormone had anything to do with it. I think it's some type of calcium deposiits, can't remember the name of the condition.
Bursitis / Calcified Bursitis. Both have similar looks, but calcified bursitis has the calcium deposits that remain even if drained. It's classified as an overuse injury here in the States.
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Some really think it was "monkey growth hormone" but I'm positive no type of growth hormone had anything to do with it. I think it's some type of calcium deposiits, can't remember the name of the condition.
do you remember how much his face and structure changed that year? not just the elbows,,
the face and the structure. he turned into curious george.
did you hear they were using cadaver derived gh until 1974 when some lifters and
wrestlers got jacob croitfeld disease or whatever mad cow is called.
edit.. Creutzfeldt-Jakob
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gross.
i can imagine the smell wafting off that in waves just
like HAARP pushes clouds across the sky.
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gross.
i can imagine the smell wafting off that in waves just
like HAARP pushes clouds across the sky.
yep that's gotta stank like shit fish mix
i'll take this instead
and by the way thank's for giving us this masterpiece 8) 8) 8)
these fellas come from your homeland listening it them right now for the pre-workout psych up
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i'd look exactly like this if i trained wheels and ate more food ;D
but with better delts and tris and worse quads, calves and bis
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hahahaha!!!!
showing an ab photo where i'm hunched over not standing up straight HAHAHAHAHA!!!
and a photo from like 8 fucking years ago HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
here ya go
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hahahaha!!!!
showing an ab photo where i'm hunched over not standing up straight HAHAHAHAHA!!!
and a photo from like 8 fucking years ago HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
here ya go
Is this you too? ???
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What have you scoundrels done to my thread?
:D
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What have you scoundrels done to my thread?
:D
Lmao!
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Lmao!
This is why we can't have anything nice around here.
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Is this you too? ???
oh look
it's a gimmick of someone else
what a PUSSY
hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is why we can't have anything nice around here.
it's not called the thuderdom for nothing
by the by thier shit don't touch i think it's pretty fucking funny actually
my experience irl is vastly different from what they try to project upon me, so i'll stick with my real life experinces ;)
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do you remember how much his face and structure changed that year? not just the elbows,,
the face and the structure. he turned into curious george.
did you hear they were using cadaver derived gh until 1974 when some lifters and
wrestlers got jacob croitfeld disease or whatever mad cow is called.
edit.. Creutzfeldt-Jakob
I know they were using crescormon, Grorm, whatever. My training partner used it like 25 years ago, it was still made in Russia. However I never read about the actual dosage they used way back in Dickerson's day. My hunch is that the dosage was tiny compared to today, I'm not positive but that's my guess. Dickerson would unlikely to be the only one using it at similar dosage. Again, I don't know for sure. The cadaver GH was supposed to cause all these strange mutations but I think that was just balonie stories, the 2 guys who I know used it saw not much of anything, the dosage was too low for one. If you know more I'm interested.
I think I saw Ronnie's elbow was kinda like that now after his career. Bursitis or GH, I don't
know but I'd bet on bursitis mostly. I forgot to look at Heiko Kallbach's elbows, he claimed to have used 54iu of Genotropin a day. Adult GH release is like less than 2iu if I'm not mistaken.
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Bursitis / Calcified Bursitis. Both have similar looks, but calcified bursitis has the calcium deposits that remain even if drained. It's classified as an overuse injury here in the States.
A lot of old people have that condition.
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I know they were using crescormon, Grorm, whatever. My training partner used it like 25 years ago, it was still made in Russia. However I never read about the actual dosage they used way back in Dickerson's day. My hunch is that the dosage was tiny compared to today, I'm not positive but that's my guess. Dickerson would unlikely to be the only one using it at similar dosage. Again, I don't know for sure. The cadaver GH was supposed to cause all these strange mutations but I think that was just balonie stories, the 2 guys who I know used it saw not much of anything, the dosage was too low for one. If you know more I'm interested.
I think I saw Ronnie's elbow was kinda like that now after his career. Bursitis or GH, I don't
know but I'd bet on bursitis mostly. I forgot to look at Heiko Kallbach's elbows, he claimed to have used 54iu of Genotropin a day. Adult GH release is like less than 2iu if I'm not mistaken.
I saw that version of Russian GH it came in 10 iu bottles, im sure many guys used it but one of its more known poster boys was Eduardo Kawak from NABBA, rumoured to have been made synthetically but engineered or ingredients from cadavers
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I know they were using crescormon, Grorm, whatever. My training partner used it like 25 years ago, it was still made in Russia. However I never read about the actual dosage they used way back in Dickerson's day. My hunch is that the dosage was tiny compared to today, I'm not positive but that's my guess. Dickerson would unlikely to be the only one using it at similar dosage. Again, I don't know for sure. The cadaver GH was supposed to cause all these strange mutations but I think that was just balonie stories, the 2 guys who I know used it saw not much of anything, the dosage was too low for one. If you know more I'm interested.
I think I saw Ronnie's elbow was kinda like that now after his career. Bursitis or GH, I don't
know but I'd bet on bursitis mostly. I forgot to look at Heiko Kallbach's elbows, he claimed to have used 54iu of Genotropin a day. Adult GH release is like less than 2iu if I'm not mistaken.
That's the problem I have with early GH theories. I just don't think Dickerson, etc.... would have the connections/money to use it at any meaningful dose/duration. Cadaver GH was pretty tightly controlled with only enough for about 30,000 people coming into the US yearly during the early 80's. Also it was between $9000 - 20,000 ($26,000-60,000 in 2023 dollars) for pretty light dose treatment by today's standards.
Genentech bringing to synthetic GH to the market in '85 is considered the watershed moment in GH supply and usage. Someone asked Duchaine on Misc.fitness.weights who was the first person he saw really use GH in meaningful amounts, and he said it was Lyle Alzado around 85-86.
You can cross reference that against Rob Huizenga (Raiders's Team Doctor)'s book - "You're OK, It's Just A Bruise (1995)" where he talks about Alzado's GH use around that time -
Rob Huizenga, former team physician for the Los Angeles Raiders describing cleaning out Lyle Alzado's stash with his wife -
"She brought in an entire shopping bag chock full of every conceivable bulking concoction. There were thousands of dollars worth of Genentech growth hormone vials, all interestingly enough marked "No Sale," meaning they were samples off some pediatric endocrinologist's shelf, or else stolen from an ongoing drug trial.
There were five types of oral anabolic steroids and sixteen types of injectable steroids, some of them veterinary with pictures of horses on the boxes. The labels were from West Germany, East Germany, France, Mexico, Italy, and the U.S.A. There was extract from pregnant women's urine that prevented the testicles from shrinking. There was an estrogen hormone blocker, tamoxifen, prescribed typically for women who have had breast cancer to help prevent a recurrence, but used by weight lifters to try to prevent "bitch tits"—the painful swellings and breast enlargement resulting from partial conversion of steroids into estrogen.
There was thyroid medicine. There was pain medicine. There was an asthma medicine from Canada, rumored to increase strength. There were boxes of syringes. There were pads of papers with various "stacking" schemes—schemes for taking handfuls of different steroids simultaneously, in hopes of more muscle and fewer side effects.
About half the drugs had come from the refrigerator; the rest had been hidden under the kitchen sink, in the bathroom, under the
bed, and behind Lyle's trophies. Some small-town pharmacies don't have this selection of drugs.".
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What have you scoundrels done to my thread?
:D
;D
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;D
they think thier shit bothers me jokes on them
i do not fucking care and like Blakely said you are up here and they are down there ;)
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That's the problem I have with early GH theories. I just don't think Dickerson, etc.... would have the connections/money to use it at any meaningful dose/duration. Cadaver GH was pretty tightly controlled with only enough for about 30,000 people coming into the US yearly during the early 80's. Also it was between $9000 - 20,000 ($26,000-60,000 in 2023 dollars) for pretty light dose treatment by today's standards.
Genentech bringing to synthetic GH to the market in '85 is considered the watershed moment in GH supply and usage. Someone asked Duchaine on Misc.fitness.weights who was the first person he saw really use GH in meaningful amounts, and he said it was Lyle Alzado around 85-86.
You can cross reference that against Rob Huizenga (Raiders's Team Doctor)'s book - "You're OK, It's Just A Bruise (1995)" where he talks about Alzado's GH use around that time -
Rob Huizenga, former team physician for the Los Angeles Raiders describing cleaning out Lyle Alzado's stash with his wife -
"She brought in an entire shopping bag chock full of every conceivable bulking concoction. There were thousands of dollars worth of Genentech growth hormone vials, all interestingly enough marked "No Sale," meaning they were samples off some pediatric endocrinologist's shelf, or else stolen from an ongoing drug trial.
There were five types of oral anabolic steroids and sixteen types of injectable steroids, some of them veterinary with pictures of horses on the boxes. The labels were from West Germany, East Germany, France, Mexico, Italy, and the U.S.A. There was extract from pregnant women's urine that prevented the testicles from shrinking. There was an estrogen hormone blocker, tamoxifen, prescribed typically for women who have had breast cancer to help prevent a recurrence, but used by weight lifters to try to prevent "bitch tits"—the painful swellings and breast enlargement resulting from partial conversion of steroids into estrogen.
There was thyroid medicine. There was pain medicine. There was an asthma medicine from Canada, rumored to increase strength. There were boxes of syringes. There were pads of papers with various "stacking" schemes—schemes for taking handfuls of different steroids simultaneously, in hopes of more muscle and fewer side effects.
About half the drugs had come from the refrigerator; the rest had been hidden under the kitchen sink, in the bathroom, under the
bed, and behind Lyle's trophies. Some small-town pharmacies don't have this selection of drugs.".
lyle was a big user/abuser and def in late 80's and early 90's he got the 'build'moreso than football 'big'for his prime in the 70's ,he even wore a hairpiece then cause he was in muscle and fitness by then.
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Bob Paris wrote in his book that he went to see what the hype was about GH back then and found out he couldn't afford it. He said that only a select few were using it due to the cost. It was so expensive he never touched it. And he said that watching some of the ones that were using it, he couldn't really tell a difference.
One of the worst looking case of abuse is that damn sunken eye / protruding brow that Paul Dillett has. Swear to god it looked like he was peering out of a ski hoodie at times. Dude had one of the best frontal bodies in the biz though.
When I first moved to Ft Lauderdale, at the Gold's on Commercial (now The Zoo), the HIV+ guys in there were selling a box of Serostim for $350. They were getting a full box every week due to being RX'd an entire bottle daily. According to doctors then and the package insert that came in the box, they had to use or discard the entire vial once it was constituted. Due to contamination fears. Their insurance companies were paying for a box a week since it had seven vials in it. It was going for $1500 a box back home and the box was lasting 5-7 weeks.
The only person I have ever heard complain (directly to me) that HGH caused elbow problems was the old WCW wrestler Van Hammer. He said it left his elbows wrecked to the point he couldn't turn the key in the lock for his front door without excruiciating pain. Of course, it might not have been HGH that ruined his elbows and instead Vyvnase/meth and constantly unscrewing shit around his apartment and putting it back together again over and over in a binge party. (Note : I never saw him use either of those, just a rumor that was going around at the time along with other weird shit he was known for.)
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Lyle liked guys too. In fact he didn't have "brain cancer" he did in fact have aids. His team knew he liked young boys. He actually liked young blonde haired boys. It was a well known fact around golds too. His wife knew ( of course) and engaged in the fun with him. Hey he was an adult and what they do in their bedroom is their business but he gave steroids a very bad name. He should have just been honest. I think most people would have respected him more but who knows. Yes dickerson could afford the human growth. He was a homo and his rich gay lovers would buy him whatever he wanted. Rhesus monkey hormone was used by more than a few people too. In fact there was one black female track athlete that was big into it and she changed facially and in the hands and other areas. Nowdays that and the insulin use is why they all look like complete crap . Robby was a good bodybuilder. Yes weider didn't like his "black attitude. It is business. Why should weider lose money and sponsers. Robby won some grand prix shows. He was on the magazines as well.
Why does this swimmer/long distance runner dj181 always post his pictures? Thats cool if you think you look good. Be proud of what you have accomplished. Marathons are very hard to do and it looks like you run a lot of them. Keep it up. Do you ever do a triathalon? Im thinking your build is perfect for running swimming and biking. No fat and little muscle. well done. But doesnt it embarrass you when your with a woman( or guy) and she/he actually asks you to put a shirt on? And if your using steroids ( like you say) then you should get your money back because they are obviously fake with no hormonal ingredient except maybe estrogen. good luck to you.
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Lyle liked guys too. In fact he didn't have "brain cancer" he did in fact have aids. His team knew he liked young boys. He actually liked young blonde haired boys. It was a well known fact around golds too. His wife knew ( of course) and engaged in the fun with him. Hey he was an adult and what they do in their bedroom is their business but he gave steroids a very bad name. He should have just been honest. I think most people would have respected him more but who knows. Yes dickerson could afford the human growth. He was a homo and his rich gay lovers would buy him whatever he wanted. Rhesus monkey hormone was used by more than a few people too. In fact there was one black female track athlete that was big into it and she changed facially and in the hands and other areas. Nowdays that and the insulin use is why they all look like complete crap . Robby was a good bodybuilder. Yes weider didn't like his "black attitude. It is business. Why should weider lose money and sponsers. Robby won some grand prix shows. He was on the magazines as well.
Why does this swimmer/long distance runner dj181 always post his pictures? Thats cool if you think you look good. Be proud of what you have accomplished. Marathons are very hard to do and it looks like you run a lot of them. Keep it up. Do you ever do a triathalon? Im thinking your build is perfect for running swimming and biking. No fat and little muscle. well done. But doesnt it embarrass you when your with a woman( or guy) and she/he actually asks you to put a shirt on? And if your using steroids ( like you say) then you should get your money back because they are obviously fake with no hormonal ingredient except maybe estrogen. good luck to you.
bahahahaha!!!
you could not be more wrong about the shirt thing chief
i always go to the gym in a loose baggy shirt and then when i get down to business i take it off and i always wear a string tank underneath and when i do this peeps start staring
and it the good kinda staring ;)
your bigorexia is clouding your judgement homeslice
one of my buds told me like 3 guys asked him how i look so good, so what you say?
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One bb I know had a gf working the assembly line a long time ago, where they assembled Norditropin vials. You could buy with or without labels, with labels was like $100 more. With the ones without labels you could tell by the color of the metal cap which strength it was, 15, 30 or 45iu. I remember thinking that if they were all fake the counterfeiters would never have made the 15 and 30 vials. But you could never be sure if the stories were true.
Once way back a 1% motorcycke club got busted for stealing millions of dollars worth of Norditropin from a warehouse in Denmark. They had gotten greedy, had been in the warehouse once already the day before.
Today many say you are way more likely to get a hold of counterfeit pharma GH compared to fake Chinese underground GH. Much of the Chinese is good nowadays they say. Only concern is that the Chinese causes more effects as well as more side effects, some speculate this is caused by "dimers" in the products, a type of protein left in the product from manufacturing. They are also sometimes way overdosed actually.
You guys in the US don't know how good you have it, you can get quality Chinese for $100 for 100iu (fella above said back in the day 100 units could cost $1500). Here in my country
the price is 3x the US black market price. Almost everyone could afford it nowadays.
Why aren't you on it? Huh? :D Even if not on steroids, GH could be a nice restorative and "feel good," "anti-aging" compound.
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lol. notice how it was 3 guys who supposedly said the runner looked good. NOT women. gay gay gay gay. were you at a real gym or a glory hole? anyways you do look good for a marathon runner. oh and i am straight.
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bahahahaha!!!
you could not be more wrong about the shirt thing chief
i always go to the gym in a loose baggy shirt and then when i get down to business i take it off and i always wear a string tank underneath and when i do this peeps start staring
and it the good kinda staring ;)
your bigorexia is clouding your judgement homeslice
one of my buds told me like 3 guys asked him how i look so good, so what you say?
posts like this make me wish Groink was still here to read this , he would laugh his balls off
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posts like this make me wish Groink was still here to read this , he would laugh his balls off
Is he in jail, either still or again?
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Is he in jail, either still or again?
he was out last time some one updated ( he was wearing concealer and lip gloss)
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Is he in jail, either still or again?
no these little shitstains gotta throw someone else in the mix to back them up
little pussies can't stand on thier own
fucking cowards ;)
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so you go to the gym in a loose baggy shirt and wear a soiled g string under it. Right? Well of course the shirt is baggy and its a small! That's because they don't make a "tiny". Maybe shop in the kids section or the women's dept. You might find a shirt that does fit. Listen I am NOT trying to argue or put you down. You think you look good so let it go. Your not a bodybuilder. Just some guy who starves himself to look like a twink and thinks he's hardcore and does "hit". Like I said you are the poster guy for why hit doesn't work. PERIOD. But this is how you want to look and that's ok. Not every guy wants to look like a bodybuilder. The world needs swimmers and bike racers and marathon runners.
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I saw this of Robby dancing on stage
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I saw this of Robby dancing on stage
Robby stole the show
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Robby stole the show
haha i see what you did there!! well played
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haha i see what you did there!! well played
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I saw this of Robby dancing on stage
Physique wise, he and Melvin had a lot of the same looks it seems.
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The guy is pathetic.
No other word for him.
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He said that Franco winning the O was the worst travesty to ever occur. He also talked about people trying to figure out why Dickerson's elbows were getting all pointy.
I don't use growth hormones, insulin or steroids. I noticed one elbow it getting pointy with a bone growth. I think it's just over use and arthritis. It's hard bone and while it's not as bad as Dickerson it's there and it wasn't there in my 40's and 50's. No way could anyone lift for 50 plus years and not have some issues.
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so you go to the gym in a loose baggy shirt and wear a soiled g string under it. Right? Well of course the shirt is baggy and its a small! That's because they don't make a "tiny". Maybe shop in the kids section or the women's dept. You might find a shirt that does fit. Listen I am NOT trying to argue or put you down. You think you look good so let it go. Your not a bodybuilder. Just some guy who starves himself to look like a twink and thinks he's hardcore and does "hit". Like I said you are the poster guy for why hit doesn't work. PERIOD. But this is how you want to look and that's ok. Not every guy wants to look like a bodybuilder. The world needs swimmers and bike racers and marathon runners.
not interested in being a bb might try mens physique and they have a weight cap like a buck 75 for my height so not looking to weigh more than that
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Physique wise, he and Melvin had a lot of the same looks it seems.
Yeah he does also he was 51 in this contest. One thing with Robby is he has always been in shape he is 78 this year
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Robby is an excellent poser.
His rhythmic dancing exhibits the finest elements of his people.
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My apologies to dj181. I thought you were trying to be a bodybuilder. My mistake. I guess I misunderstood. As far as Robby goes he was a good bodybuilder no doubt. But he never worked a day in his life basically. Yes he steals and always has ( remember what race he is) But like most of the bodybuilders back in the day they never planned for getting older. They made ok money with seminars and t shirts and writing or endorsing for weider but not great money. There were no contracts except Arnolds. He was smart. He knew weider needed him and he needed weider so they both benefited. He also got franco a contract. Weider loved bodybuilders but he loved money more ( his race does) Nowdays pros get big contracts with supplement companies and even then they blow their money. So Robby is a perfect example of what not to do. Plan for your retirement Plan for when you are no longer needed in bodybuilding. The sport grows and you get older
Kind of like porn stars. They get popular make lots of money can be selective but only for awhile. Then they get old realize they are out of money the jobs stop coming in so now they have to take almost everything that does come along. Then they die from drugs. With bodybuilders once you get older no matter how you look even the fags won't give you money for g4p. It is really sad. Way back in the day they tried to organize a bodybuilder union. Arnold was to be the treasurer because like he said he was good with money. But weider stopped it all!! Now when mcmahan came along and gave contracts then weider had to do the same that is when they should have tried again They had the power/control then. But they didn't because they were getting good money. But only while mcmahan was on the scene. After he stopped the contracts pretty much did as well from weider. Very sad what they put their bodies thru to make such little money. They spend more on drugs then they make. ( but most sponsers actually supply them their drugs. Most supplement companies are owned or were owned by former ( current) steroid dealers.
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My apologies to dj181. I thought you were trying to be a bodybuilder. My mistake. I guess I misunderstood. As far as Robby goes he was a good bodybuilder no doubt. But he never worked a day in his life basically. Yes he steals and always has ( remember what race he is) But like most of the bodybuilders back in the day they never planned for getting older. They made ok money with seminars and t shirts and writing or endorsing for weider but not great money. There were no contracts except Arnolds. He was smart. He knew weider needed him and he needed weider so they both benefited. He also got franco a contract. Weider loved bodybuilders but he loved money more ( his race does) Nowdays pros get big contracts with supplement companies and even then they blow their money. So Robby is a perfect example of what not to do. Plan for your retirement Plan for when you are no longer needed in bodybuilding. The sport grows and you get older
Kind of like porn stars. They get popular make lots of money can be selective but only for awhile. Then they get old realize they are out of money the jobs stop coming in so now they have to take almost everything that does come along. Then they die from drugs. With bodybuilders once you get older no matter how you look even the fags won't give you money for g4p. It is really sad. Way back in the day they tried to organize a bodybuilder union. Arnold was to be the treasurer because like he said he was good with money. But weider stopped it all!! Now when mcmahan came along and gave contracts then weider had to do the same that is when they should have tried again They had the power/control then. But they didn't because they were getting good money. But only while mcmahan was on the scene. After he stopped the contracts pretty much did as well from weider. Very sad what they put their bodies thru to make such little money. They spend more on drugs then they make. ( but most sponsers actually supply them their drugs. Most supplement companies are owned or were owned by former ( current) steroid dealers.
No worries bro it's all good
Love the insults though they get me fired up to go nuts in the gym
I base my experience on real life and the respond to my physique in real life is a world away from what these turds here's try and convince me it is
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Robby is an excellent poser.
His rhythmic dancing exhibits the finest elements of his people.
;D
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Robby is an excellent poser.
His rhythmic dancing exhibits the finest elements of his people.
Lmao!!
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I`ll be good and godamned if I ever call a grown man "The Black Prince" !! LOL ;D
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I`ll be good and godamned if I ever call a grown man "The Black Prince" !! LOL ;D
The Black Prince of Venice.
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The Black Pickpocket of Venice.
FIXED ;D
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FIXED ;D
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Robby is a free loading scumbag. Kind of like the movie The Wrestler. He has been free loading his entire life. Difference is he made some money when he was young and Joe Weider was alive. Now he is a social security disability collecting douchbag.
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Robby is a free loading scumbag. Kind of like the movie The Wrestler. He has been free loading his entire life. Difference is he made some money when he was young and Joe Weider was alive. Now he is a social security disability collecting douchbag.
He's old enough to not need disability, just straight SS and Medicare or Medicaid.
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My apologies to dj181. I thought you were trying to be a bodybuilder. My mistake. I guess I misunderstood. As far as Robby goes he was a good bodybuilder no doubt. But he never worked a day in his life basically. Yes he steals and always has ( remember what race he is) But like most of the bodybuilders back in the day they never planned for getting older. They made ok money with seminars and t shirts and writing or endorsing for weider but not great money. There were no contracts except Arnolds. He was smart. He knew weider needed him and he needed weider so they both benefited. He also got franco a contract. Weider loved bodybuilders but he loved money more ( his race does) Nowdays pros get big contracts with supplement companies and even then they blow their money. So Robby is a perfect example of what not to do. Plan for your retirement Plan for when you are no longer needed in bodybuilding. The sport grows and you get older
Kind of like porn stars. They get popular make lots of money can be selective but only for awhile. Then they get old realize they are out of money the jobs stop coming in so now they have to take almost everything that does come along. Then they die from drugs. With bodybuilders once you get older no matter how you look even the fags won't give you money for g4p. It is really sad. Way back in the day they tried to organize a bodybuilder union. Arnold was to be the treasurer because like he said he was good with money. But weider stopped it all!! Now when mcmahan came along and gave contracts then weider had to do the same that is when they should have tried again They had the power/control then. But they didn't because they were getting good money. But only while mcmahan was on the scene. After he stopped the contracts pretty much did as well from weider. Very sad what they put their bodies thru to make such little money. They spend more on drugs then they make. ( but most sponsers actually supply them their drugs. Most supplement companies are owned or were owned by former ( current) steroid dealers.
PARAGRAPHS
Look into it.
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Wes you think your some hot shit on this board. I am sick and tired of you and your fucked up attitude about everything. That stupid thunderdome fuckface bullshit.( that also applies to all of you who think your stupid little "catch phrase " bullshit is cool) No one cares. You are nothing and will never be anything. It so happens my actual name is WES. And idiots big mouthed assholes like you give real men with the name Wes a bad image and in fact you give every REAL man a bad name. Grow the fuck up. This is a bodybuilding board not a fucking english class.
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And I am not going to keep arguing. I am a real man. I said my piece. So now let all the "defenders" jump in saying I insulted Wes. I shouldn't have done that. blah blah blah. I speak my mind and I will call a mother fucker out after I have tolerated it long enough . So go ahead act like a tough guy your little nut huggers on here will come to your " internet defense. I am done . Like I said I said my piece and that's it.
Oh respect .LOOK INTO IT
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He's old enough to not need disability, just straight SS and Medicare or Medicaid.
Disability social security is tax free. Much better than social security.
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We have a new feud between Wes and bigbychoices.
:o
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Wes you think your some hot shit on this board. I am sick and tired of you and your fucked up attitude about everything. That stupid thunderdome fuckface bullshit.( that also applies to all of you who think your stupid little "catch phrase " bullshit is cool) No one cares. You are nothing and will never be anything. It so happens my actual name is WES. And idiots big mouthed assholes like you give real men with the name Wes a bad image and in fact you give every REAL man a bad name. Grow the fuck up. This is a bodybuilding board not a fucking english class.
Dude,calm down,I like your posts...........very knowledgeable but I have a helluva time reading them without paragraphs.
I don`t think I`m anything special around here,that`s in your mind,I`m just me,what you see is what you get,and if that`s not good enough I can`t help you.
If you`re sick and tired on my posts,then don`t bother fucking reading them.
My name is Tim by the way chief not wes.......in your spare time,you might wanna try to develop a sense of humor.
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I thought the book was surprisingly a good read. I wonder if he wrote it? When I ordered it my wallet was upstairs so I asked my wife for her credit card. So I ordered it as Valerie. When the book came I was surprised when I found Robby wrote on the inside, "Muscles are sexy Valerie."
What an “ Author “ Robby is. Btw When you mentioned your wallet I thought the story had more to do with disappearing wallets when Robby is around or even mentioned.
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Wes you think your some hot shit on this board. I am sick and tired of you and your fucked up attitude about everything. That stupid thunderdome fuckface bullshit.( that also applies to all of you who think your stupid little "catch phrase " bullshit is cool) No one cares. You are nothing and will never be anything. It so happens my actual name is WES. And idiots big mouthed assholes like you give real men with the name Wes a bad image and in fact you give every REAL man a bad name. Grow the fuck up. This is a bodybuilding board not a fucking english class.
Have you ever won a "best poster named Wes" award?
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Here’s an actual excerpt from chapter 7 titled “Da Weiders Be Raciss”
S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me! Cutter say 'e can't HANG! Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da rebound on da med side. What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap! Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help! Say 'e can't hang, say seven up! Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit. Bet, babe. Slide a piece o' da' porter. Drinks, I run da' java. Lookie here. I can dig grease 'n chompin' on some buns and draggin' through the garden.
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He's old enough to not need disability, just straight SS and Medicare or Medicaid.
Actually you are right. SS disability transfers to SS at 65..
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Here’s an actual excerpt from chapter 7 titled “Da Weiders Be Raciss”
S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me! Cutter say 'e can't HANG! Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da rebound on da med side. What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap! Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help! Say 'e can't hang, say seven up! Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit. Bet, babe. Slide a piece o' da' porter. Drinks, I run da' java. Lookie here. I can dig grease 'n chompin' on some buns and draggin' through the garden.
Chapter 8 - "First Time I Am Be At Da Olympia" -
"I shows da man at da counter muh professional card stating dat I do be infact an IFBB pro. He go "Why does it have bbq sauce on it?", I tell dat fool it ain't no bbq sauce, it am Tabasco hot. He say it don't matter I's still gots to pay two fiddy for a new one. All da while, I sees Arnold tryin' to gets some stink on his hang-low with my new womans. "Schwarzenegger" I think, "am he one of dem secret Jews or am he just making fun of my people wit that Negger at da end of his name?". Them whites always be tryin to take somefin from us.
I tells the cracker to makes me a new card, and makes it snappy, I be in a hurry. I notice they ain'ts got no Kool Aid, Welches, or Fanta Orange back of the stage, they only gots water. And they am be havin' extra securita near the lockers and coats, sheeeeeeit."
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I be posin to Proud Mary tonite. Tina betta put some stank on it sheeeeeit
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I be posin to Proud Mary tonite. Tina betta put some stank on it sheeeeeit
"I first trys to get them to let me pose to James Brown, Mista Weider send over Ben, talkin' 'bout "It's too dark", and they ain't wanna pay da licensing. I tell them I already gots a license to drive, and I listen to James on the car radio, that should count for somefin. No can do, no James, no Delfonics, no P-Funk. They tells me I should be grateful for Tina.
These crackers are getting on my last nerve."
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"I first trys to get them to let me pose to James Brown, Mista Weider send over Ben, talkin' 'bout "It's too dark", and they ain't wanna pay da licensing. I tell them I already gots a license to drive, and I listen to James on the car radio, that should count for somefin. No can do, no James, no Delfonics, no P-Funk. They tells me I should be grateful for Tina.
These crackers are getting on my last nerve."
;D
Mama sed dem boyz are da worst kinda joo sheeeeeeeeeit
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Mama sed dem boyz are da worst kinda joo sheeeeeeeeeit
"Mama ain't never like Joe, she say he look like Col Sanders. Legend had it, that Col Sanders stole my great grand pappy's chicken recipe. He come around talkin' "How you do dat thing with da chicken Mista Robinson?", "You people sure are good with the birds." Nex thang you know he steal da 11 herbs and spices. Mama always be saying "Mista Weider gonna steal your fame like Sanders stole our chicken!" .
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Nah nikka, that joo nikka look like Col Mustard sheeeeeeit
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My apologies to Wes. I over reacted. I am sorry.
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My apologies to Wes. I over reacted. I am sorry.
No apologies needed. Wes isn’t down with OPP and never will be
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My apologies to Wes. I over reacted. I am sorry.
No sweat bud.......sorry if I was a jerk to you.
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His book has a few interesting stories of when he lived in Amsterdam and had a pet monkey.
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His book has a few interesting stories of when he lived in Amsterdam and had a pet monkey.
Are you sure he wasn't the pet monkey?
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supposedly young arnie used to lure gays into the toilet under the guise of performing sexual favors and the promptly beat thier asses and robbed them
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supposedly young arnie used to lure gays into the toilet under the guise of performing sexual favors and the promptly beat thier asses and robbed them
???
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Got to be in his late 40s / 50s here
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Been in Venice all this week and haven't sighted him which is unusual, he's usually around looking to hustle food or money off anyone who doesn't know his history. He's a prick but I wish him no harm.
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Been in Venice all this week and haven't sighted him which is unusual, he's usually around looking to hustle food or money off anyone who doesn't know his history. He's a prick but I wish him no harm.
Did you look out back by the dumpsters?
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Did you look out back by the dumpsters?
:D Is that where Robby eats or sleeps?
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Been in Venice all this week and haven't sighted him which is unusual, he's usually around looking to hustle food or money off anyone who doesn't know his history. He's a prick but I wish him no harm.
Doesn't he train at 4am ?
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One bb I know had a gf working the assembly line a long time ago, where they assembled Norditropin vials. You could buy with or without labels, with labels was like $100 more. With the ones without labels you could tell by the color of the metal cap which strength it was, 15, 30 or 45iu. I remember thinking that if they were all fake the counterfeiters would never have made the 15 and 30 vials. But you could never be sure if the stories were true.
Once way back a 1% motorcycke club got busted for stealing millions of dollars worth of Norditropin from a warehouse in Denmark. They had gotten greedy, had been in the warehouse once already the day before.
Today many say you are way more likely to get a hold of counterfeit pharma GH compared to fake Chinese underground GH. Much of the Chinese is good nowadays they say. Only concern is that the Chinese causes more effects as well as more side effects, some speculate this is caused by "dimers" in the products, a type of protein left in the product from manufacturing. They are also sometimes way overdosed actually.
You guys in the US don't know how good you have it, you can get quality Chinese for $100 for 100iu (fella above said back in the day 100 units could cost $1500). Here in my country
the price is 3x the US black market price. Almost everyone could afford it nowadays.
Why aren't you on it? Huh? :D Even if not on steroids, GH could be a nice restorative and "feel good," "anti-aging" compound.
I haven't been around roids for a long time now, but are the Paki sustanons and testovirons still around?
I'm surprised they never got big into spreading humatrope (it was that or some other brand that's made out there) on the black market like they did the testosterones.
An easy business is moving out there, opening a legit pharmacy company then pushing out the hgh and test to Europe.
Easier than pushing heroin and even if you get caught, you're not going to see over 5-10 years lol.
I remember that guy, I think it was the alpha pharma owner, got caught and it was a big story in the media in UK. They said the business was in the 10s of millions (maybe 100s, I don't remember). He was was moving like James Bond villain but the sentence was relatively light. Might have been around 10 years.
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Doesn't he train at 4am ?
Great time to train as you have the whole weight room to yourself.
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Great time to train as you have the whole weight room to yourself.
RR AND MIKE KILLIN IT 4AM
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Looking back it's funny now in a way. Mid 70's you had these unbelievable unique and amazing physiques no homo. Zane, Robby, Lou, Boyer the list goes on and on and on. They were all unbelievable. But they were all deep in Arnold's shadow. Wonder what things would have been like if Arnold didn't show up.
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One thing that Robby said in his book about Mentzer/Arnold is that Weider would allow his top stars to advertise their training programs and pamphlets in his magazines. Because it generated fan mail and they were in the photos promoting Weider products (see below for how that panned out). "Arnold's" training obviously was "built" all around the Weider Principles. (duh!) Likewise the other BBers training programs being sold were variations of the volume method. Then Mike came along and started advertising his HIT program. Which obviously went against everything that Joe was preaching as the gospel with the Weider Principles. Joe and Ben were like "uh...nope" and that was the end of that for Mike and their magazines.
Regarding Robby, he was advertising his training program and such and being featured in the Weider ads promoting one of Joe's products. A young fan wrote to Robby and said that he (Robby) was his favorite BBer and he wanted to know if the product Robby was advertising was really working because he had limited money and had to cut corners if he could afford it. Robby wrote back and told him that in truth, he didn't even use the product. When Joe found out about it, he banned Robby from competing in the IFBB for TWO lifetimes. He only relented and brought Robby back because they were grooming Lou to win the first Master's O and they needed a "name" for Lou to beat to lend him some credibility. Which of course did not happen and they were furious that Robby won instead.
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One thing that Robby said in his book about Mentzer/Arnold is that Weider would allow his top stars to advertise their training programs and pamphlets in his magazines. Because it generated fan mail and they were in the photos promoting Weider products (see below for how that panned out). "Arnold's" training obviously was "built" all around the Weider Principles. (duh!) Likewise the other BBers training programs being sold were variations of the volume method. Then Mike came along and started advertising his HIT program. Which obviously went against everything that Joe was preaching as the gospel with the Weider Principles. Joe and Ben were like "uh...nope" and that was the end of that for Mike and their magazines.
Regarding Robby, he was advertising his training program and such and being featured in the Weider ads promoting one of Joe's products. A young fan wrote to Robby and said that he (Robby) was his favorite BBer and he wanted to know if the product Robby was advertising was really working because he had limited money and had to cut corners if he could afford it. Robby wrote back and told him that in truth, he didn't even use the product. When Joe found out about it, he banned Robby from competing in the IFBB for TWO lifetimes. He only relented and brought Robby back because they were grooming Lou to win the first Master's O and they needed a "name" for Lou to beat to lend him some credibility. Which of course did not happen and they were furious that Robby won instead.
Mike continued advertising his books and had articles in Weider magazines through the 80's and 90's along with other mags like Ironman and MM2K.
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What happened to Robby's Generation Iron documentary that was advertised last year ?
Does anyone know?
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What happened to Robby's Generation Iron documentary that was advertised last year ?
Does anyone know?
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He stole the master copies out of Vlad's locker...
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One thing that Robby said in his book about Mentzer/Arnold is that Weider would allow his top stars to advertise their training programs and pamphlets in his magazines. Because it generated fan mail and they were in the photos promoting Weider products (see below for how that panned out). "Arnold's" training obviously was "built" all around the Weider Principles. (duh!) Likewise the other BBers training programs being sold were variations of the volume method. Then Mike came along and started advertising his HIT program. Which obviously went against everything that Joe was preaching as the gospel with the Weider Principles. Joe and Ben were like "uh...nope" and that was the end of that for Mike and their magazines.
Regarding Robby, he was advertising his training program and such and being featured in the Weider ads promoting one of Joe's products. A young fan wrote to Robby and said that he (Robby) was his favorite BBer and he wanted to know if the product Robby was advertising was really working because he had limited money and had to cut corners if he could afford it. Robby wrote back and told him that in truth, he didn't even use the product. When Joe found out about it, he banned Robby from competing in the IFBB for TWO lifetimes. He only relented and brought Robby back because they were grooming Lou to win the first Master's O and they needed a "name" for Lou to beat to lend him some credibility. Which of course did not happen and they were furious that Robby won instead.
I don't know which is more surprising - the fact that Robby can write, or that he actually sprang for postage ;D
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Mike continued advertising his books and had articles in Weider magazines through the 80's and 90's along with other mags like Ironman and MM2K.
Damn Robby lied again. The 80's and 90's were before my time and I didn't read the magazines then so I wouldn't know. But the story itself the way he told him was somewhat hysterical. That he responded to the kid truthfully and in good intentions of saving him money that he didn't have in the first place, and the kid immediately wrote Joe Weider a letter along the lines of "you fucking liar! Robby says..."
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I don't know which is more surprising - the fact that Robby can write, or that he actually sprang for postage ;D
According to what he wrote (pun) he was one of the first to start replying back to people who wrote him directly and sending them a signed photograph for free (even if they didn't ask for it). He claimed it helped keep him in everyone's mind and lead to a jump in his already high popularity in Europe which resulted in more speaking appearances and a high charge rate.
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He stole the master copies out of Vlad's locker...
Something mustve happened as I remember it being filmed when he was training 'Tim Taylor'. I was interested in it as they went back to the 'swamps' and visited where Robby grew up etc it did look interesting.