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A New Mexico grand jury indicted actor Alec Baldwin on Friday after hearing evidence in a closed hearing over the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who died in 2021 on the Rust film set after Baldwin’s prop gun fired a live bullet.
NBC News reported that Baldwin attorneys Luke Nikas and Alex Spiro responded to the indictment by saying, “We look forward to our day In court.”
Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was shot and killed on the set of “Rust” on October 21, 2021. Director Joel Souza was wounded in the incident as well.
The on-set armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, released a statement after the incident and claimed Baldwin “[pointed] the gun at Halyna [Hutchins] before the fatal incident against all rules and common sense.”
On December 3, 2021, Breitbart News noted that Baldwin told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that he cocked the gun that fatally shot the cinematographer but insisted that he did not pull the trigger.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/01/19/alec-baldwin-indicted-on-involuntary-manslaughter-charge-in-rust-shooting/
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While I don’t like him at all. I don’t see how he can be charged for firing a weapon handed to him to use in a movie scene? Am I missing something.
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Bad news for Pete Schwetty
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Bro...
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I hope he rots in jail.
Privileged Prick Of Peace
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While I don’t like him at all. I don’t see how he can be charged for firing a weapon handed to him to use in a movie scene? Am I missing something.
Don’t quote me on this...
But when this situation occurred, it was said that Halyna Hutchins was planning to do a documentary on human sex trafficking.....
Alec and his Hollywood buddies were already connected to Epstein Island sex crimes..
So Alec was told to kill her (‘make it look like an accident’) before she had a chance to continue her research and her investigation.
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While I don’t like him at all. I don’t see how he can be charged for firing a weapon handed to him to use in a movie scene? Am I missing something.
I don't think that he'll be convicted, but he's been lying from day one and should pay a price for it. He squeezed the trigger of that gun.
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Don’t quote me on this...
But when this situation occurred, it was said that Halyna Hutchins was planning to do a documentary on human sex trafficking.....
Alec and his Hollywood buddies were already connected to Epstein Island sex crimes..
So Alec was told to kill her (‘make it look like an accident’) before she had a chance to continue her research and her investigation.
Hahah this bullshit. Trust the plan, Qanon patriot.
The women needed to be quietly eliminated, so they chose the absolute loudest way of doing it. I believe it.
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Hahah this bullshit. Trust the plan, Qanon patriot.
The women needed to be quietly eliminated, so they chose the absolute loudest way of doing it. I believe it.
in plain sight....
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Well he did say he could shoot a person in front of everyone in the middle of Times Square and he wouldn’t be convicted.
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Hahah this bullshit. Trust the plan, Qanon patriot.
The women needed to be quietly eliminated, so they chose the absolute loudest way of doing it. I believe it.
Ok dude... but somebody put a bullet in the movie prop gun
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I can't stand the liberal prick but he is wrongly prosecuted. I know he lied about not pulling the trigger. He is on a movie set and hired a gun safety expert. He was given a loaded real gun. He's an actor. I know gun safety since I have been carrying for 40 years. If this was a gun range or a gun in his home I would say he was should be criminally charged with recklessly but unintentionally causing her death as in the manslaughter definition used in many states.
For example if you punch a guy one time and he dies you could be charged with manslaughter. You meant to him him but had no intentions of him dying. You would be charged with the "softest" homicide charge there is and that's manslaughter in many states which generally carries a five year prison term or less. He had no intention of killing her and he wasn't reckless when he was handed a movie prop that was a real gun that was loaded with real cartridges. Even if he was told it was a real gun not knowing proper gun safety he could have thought it's loaded with blanks. On a side note blanks are dangerous at short range if the cartridge isn't loaded by an experienced person. What movie safety expert keeps live cartridges in a real gun in guns used as props on a movie set?
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I can't stand the liberal prick but he is wrongly prosecuted. I know he lied about not pulling the trigger. He is on a movie set and hired a gun safety expert. He was given a loaded real gun. He's an actor. I know gun safety since I have been carrying for 40 years. If this was a gun range or a gun in his home I would say he was should be criminally charged with recklessly but unintentionally causing her death as in the manslaughter definition used in many states.
For example if you punch a guy one time and he dies you could be charged with manslaughter. You meant to him him but had no intentions of him dying. You would be charged with the "softest" homicide charge there is and that's manslaughter in many states which generally carries a five year prison term or less. He had no intention of killing her and he wasn't reckless when he was handed a movie prop that was a real gun that was loaded with real cartridges. Even if he was told it was a real gun not knowing proper gun safety he could have thought it's loaded with blanks. On a side note blanks are dangerous at short range if the cartridge isn't loaded by an experienced person. What movie safety expert keeps live cartridges in a real gun in guns used as props on a movie set?
A safety expert who is partaking in a murder plot.
Just like Epstein..... murdered in prison as the surveillance cameras malfunctioned ...while the guards looked away
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LOL ;D
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The Hunt For Red October is one of my absolute faves.
But this Baldwin libdweeb is one rotten and mental individual.
Concerning the shooting, what do I know.
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The Hunt For Red October is one of my absolute faves.
But this Baldwin libdweeb is one rotten and mental individual.
Concerning the shooting, what do I know.
Even more damning...
Baldwin had no business holding the gun
They were not even filming that day
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While I don’t like him at all. I don’t see how he can be charged for firing a weapon handed to him to use in a movie scene? Am I missing something.
Bottomline, he pulled the trigger without clearing the gun. Even it's a revolver, any idiot can see if it's loaded or not. Last person handling the gun is responsible. Plus he lied his ass off. He broke every firearm safety rule in the book.
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While I don’t like him at all. I don’t see how he can be charged for firing a weapon handed to him to use in a movie scene? Am I missing something.
The holder/user of a weapon is ultimately responsible for its fitness for use. That of course is common sense gun safety, how it will play out to a jury….who knows. I’d indict him
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Guns dont kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people...
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Bottomline, he pulled the trigger without clearing the gun. Even it's a revolver, any idiot can see if it's loaded or not. Last person handling the gun is responsible. Plus he lied his ass off. He broke every firearm safety rule in the book.
Many people have never fired a gun. He hired a gun expert. Revolvers on a movie set have dummy bullets in them so you can see them when the camera is dead on the revolver. That's how Bruce Lee's kid got killed. They had bullets in the cylinder minus the cartridge. When blanks were added they pushed the bullets out with enough velocity to kill.
Yes, in movies firearms are pointed at actors and the trigger is pulled. They are props and they have a safety guy on set to ensure safety. Why they used a real gun is insanity. No live ammo should be on set. When a gun "expert" is on set they are supposed to hand it to the actor and open the action show it's empty or use a gun with the firing pin or striker removed.
In real life here's a few safety rules.
1. Treat all guns as if they are loaded even if you know they are unloaded. So many accidental firings are from people that said, I thought the gun was unloaded.
2. Never point the barrel at another or yourself. Only point a gun at a threat or a target. A good rule is to imagine a laser is coming out of the barrel. This will keep you conscience about where the gun is pointed.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire the gun. These new striker fired semi autos have a light tap to set off the gun. Also be very careful holstering a fire arm. The trigger can be hit if you're not careful.
On a side note isn't anabolic steroids a schedule felony drug? How can all you steroid users be in possession of firearms when you have syringes and vials in your house? Are you getting them from questionable doctors from a life extension clinics to be "legal".
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The holder/user of a weapon is ultimately responsible for its fitness for use. That of course is common sense gun safety, how it will play out to a jury….who knows. I’d indict him
I get that but he’s paid actor and someone hands him a gun with blanks in it so if he looked it would appear to have bullets in it and he wouldn’t know the difference being a crazy leftists that I imagine has never held a gun before. Also shouldn’t all things on a movie set be cleared for the end person using it. Why would anyone think there would be live rounds in it?
I hate Baldwin but I just can’t justify him being charged as much as I would like to.
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I thought they weren't actually filming when he shot her? And then he tried to say that he didn't pull the trigger, that the gun went off on its own. I don't think he tried to kill her on purpose, but I do think he should be punished if they weren't filming and he just aimed and shot at her.
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Why did the dude who shot Brandon Lee not get charged?
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Baldwin sued his victims husband for filing a wrongful death lawsuit and got damages from him.
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Why did the dude who shot Brandon Lee not get charged?
Exactly the same situation right?
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Exactly the same situation right?
royalty said it happened on a day when they where not filming , if thats the case it makes it hard for the " we where just filming a scene and it was an accident " argument
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Maybe Alec was contacted by the Scientology-Management with this Task, to remove that person from existence, and making Alec a Scapegoat.
Maybe they got Dirt or Rust on Alec, so he had to do it.
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Many people have never fired a gun. He hired a gun expert. Revolvers on a movie set have dummy bullets in them so you can see them when the camera is dead on the revolver. That's how Bruce Lee's kid got killed. They had bullets in the cylinder minus the cartridge. When blanks were added they pushed the bullets out with enough velocity to kill.
Alec Baldwin has been doing movies with firearms for decades. I'm 100% sure that each time he shoots a movie or whatever, like literally everyone else that uses a firearm in show business, they go through the safety rules with the Armorer before they start filming and at adnauseam during the shoots (no pun intended). Those actors that film action movies such as John Wick are EXTREMELY well trained in the use of firearms from grip to reloads, knowing when to speed reload or tactical, proper grip, muzzle awareness, etc. My thought is that Baldwin is one of those "uncoachable" types that thinks he knows it all, didn't need to listen to the armorer and paid the price. Make no mistake, the guns on the sets are real, not plastic toy guns. We use the same guns when we do force on force, we use airsoft at 450psi and simunitions, they use either dummy rounds or snap caps. That being said, they look like real rounds. The real rounds should have been separated and placed with the armorer or offset in a separate, secure area such as a safe or not there at all.
Yes, in movies firearms are pointed at actors and the trigger is pulled. They are props and they have a safety guy on set to ensure safety. Why they used a real gun is insanity. No live ammo should be on set. When a gun "expert" is on set they are supposed to hand it to the actor and open the action show it's empty or use a gun with the firing pin or striker removed.
In real life here's a few safety rules.
1. Treat all guns as if they are loaded even if you know they are unloaded. So many accidental firings are from people that said, I thought the gun was unloaded.
2. Never point the barrel at another or yourself. Only point a gun at a threat or a target. A good rule is to imagine a laser is coming out of the barrel. This will keep you conscience about where the gun is pointed.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire the gun. These new striker fired semi autos have a light tap to set off the gun. Also be very careful holstering a fire arm. The trigger can be hit if you're not careful.
On a side note isn't anabolic steroids a schedule felony drug? How can all you steroid users be in possession of firearms when you have syringes and vials in your house? Are you getting them from questionable doctors from a life extension clinics to be "legal".
If I understand this story from beginning, they weren't filming when this happened and was off set. He was just being his usual dick self and not paying attention. I have a ton of certs still train in firearms 2-3x week (1 day wk min on an outside range) for the last 6-7 years. It's way more than just a hobby and Just finished up on another 16hr cert just yesterday. The safety rules you posted are from the NRA, there are actually four rules that for whatever reason were put in another part of the NRA Pistol and Rifle basics curriculum. The fourth is "know your foreground and background. I teach five although the fifth can be deemed as subjective which is "keep your weapon on safe until you are ready to fire" that last one is ABSOLUTELY engrained on the range especially on the firing line. I am a certified RSO for what it's worth
I even started back up my YouTube channel to dedicate it more towards firearms training in the way of mostly shorts. Like I said, whether there were live rounds in the gun or not, the last one to handle the weapon is the last one to make sure the gun clear. He didn't, not only didn't he do that, he didn't get someone to check his gun to make sure it was clear. It's a buddy check and even clear, you don't point it at anyone. It's ultimately his responsibility
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royalty said it happened on a day when they where not filming , if thats the case it makes it hard for the " we where just filming a scene and it was an accident " argument
They definitely were not filming.
There was a lot of drama on the set. The actors did not receive paychecks so most of them left the set and weren’t going to return until they received their payments.
Like I said, someone on the set put a bullet in the prop gun
Why would Baldwin even aim a gun at the cinema photographer anyway? She is not an actor in a action scene. It comparable to Schwarzenegger shooting James Cameron on the set of Terminator 2.
***There was a theory that perhaps one of the actors was so upset about not getting their paycheck that they secretly put a bullet in the prop gun.
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He's probably scared shitless of camera failure now...
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Attorneys still trying to get into Baldwin's deep pockets.
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Don’t quote me on this...
But when this situation occurred, it was said that Halyna Hutchins was planning to do a documentary on human sex trafficking.....
Alec and his Hollywood buddies were already connected to Epstein Island sex crimes..
So Alec was told to kill her (‘make it look like an accident’) before she had a chance to continue her research and her investigation.
Straight outta Illuminati - bet he wore a leather thong made of foreskins on that day.
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It was either Baldwin that loaded the gun... or an unpaid disgruntled actor that loaded the gun.
There aren’t too many other options.
Either way, Baldwin has no business picking up the gun and aiming it, especially since they were not filming that day.
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If it was a non-filming day or at end of the day, the guns should have been unloaded, cleared with the guns stored.