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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: beakdoctor on February 05, 2024, 05:23:56 PM
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He said some funny shit roasting some of his contemporaries. The most surprising was what he said about Dickerson.
Arnold- on tv after the 79 Olympia he tells Arnold that winning his 3rd Olympia felt even better than beating Arnold in the Mr. Universe. He says Arnold called him up and was pissed that Frank said that. He says 'Arnold you love it when the joke's not on you. Lighten up!'
Chris Dickerson in 1982- "Chris was so arrogant that year, fuck you! You're lucky to have your 'mentor' Bill Pearl going around putting a bug in the judges ears.'
Franco- 'Franco won the Mr Olympia with a bitch tit and a gimp leg.'
Bill Pearl - He hit whatever poses he wanted. He didn't listen to the judges. He wasn't cut or ripped and they gave him the win.
Arnold - he said 'if people say you're great, that's what you want to hear. If you have to tell people you're great, you just sound like a fool '
I saw he was on Dennis James podcast from a few months ago and he just seemed elderly, a little cranky I guess, hard of hearing , a little impatient etc...he's got to be in his 80's.
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Frank is 82 now. He's always been a bit kranky and aloof. But a great BB.
Tells it like he see's it at least. Unlike many ass-kissers in IFBB history.
He even dissed Basile in a major way... Vince is still very butt-hurt over it, you can tell.
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82. Wow.
It's hell to get old.
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82. Wow.
It's hell to get old.
The alternative is worse though.
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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He said some funny shit roasting some of his contemporaries. The most surprising was what he said about Dickerson.
Arnold- on tv after the 79 Olympia he tells Arnold that winning his 3rd Olympia felt even better than beating Arnold in the Mr. Universe. He says Arnold called him up and was pissed that Frank said that. He says 'Arnold you love it when the joke's not on you. Lighten up!'
Chris Dickerson in 1982- "Chris was so arrogant that year, fuck you! You're lucky to have your 'mentor' Bill Pearl going around putting a bug in the judges ears.'
Franco- 'Franco won the Mr Olympia with a bitch tit and a gimp leg.'
Bill Pearl - He hit whatever poses he wanted. He didn't listen to the judges. He wasn't cut or ripped and they gave him the win.
Arnold - he said 'if people say you're great, that's what you want to hear. If you have to tell people you're great, you just sound like a fool '
I saw he was on Dennis James podcast from a few months ago and he just seemed elderly, a little cranky I guess, hard of hearing , a little impatient etc...he's got to be in his 80's.
Love to hear these stories! hardcore old school BB from the main source.
Too bad Zane being a legend has to be with Mike O tren on Youtube .... I can't stand that fraud of a BB ,,, Had to unsubscribe from GI thanks to him.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh
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My favorite pic of Zane. And of course our board tard Bhank will claim he looks better, lol
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My favorite pic of Zane. And of course our board tard Bhank will claim he looks better, lol
Put up a pic of him at 46 years old he was DJ size at 46
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Put up a pic of him at 46 years old he was DJ size at 46
So speaks the bio-identical turd of the interwebs. You look like something Carl Spackler fished out of the Bushwood pool.
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Put up a pic of him at 46 years old he was DJ size at 46
He beats you hands down
I think he was 46 here
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8mho1dh-rT0q6hM1LxkaVVhIAZMGi6mWZUg&usqp=CAU)
50 here
(https://www.x-rep.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Frank-Zane-Studio-Relaxed-crop.jpg)
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one of his best shots
and he def could have ass pounded females like this so.... why the fuck didn't he what the hell is wrong with him ??? ??? ???
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fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
i can look exacty like this and i will in 2 months i'll be VERY VERY CLOSE sans the legs, IT SHALL BE says the djer
damn what a song!!! makes me think maybe it's ok to be a sweetie closey with a girl
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Put up a pic of him at 46 years old he was DJ size at 46
lol - Now I know this is a troll account, hahahaha
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Fantastic Frank.
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Zane never seemed like the kind of chemistry teacher who would light his farts with the Bunsen burner. Therefore, he’s a nobody in my book.
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Zane never seemed like the kind of chemistry teacher who would light farts with the Bunsen burner. Therefore, he’s a nobody in my book.
AJ made a write-up of pro bb's who visited deland back in the early 70's and zane is one of the bb's who talked bout so was coe and arnold
i'll try and find this write-up
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Frank Zane was kind enough to let my son and I come to his home to pick up some books for my oldest brother along with a poster (all of them signed!) of Frank and Christine. I did not go into his home nor did I meet his loverly wife but I can assure you that he is a gentlemen in the real world.
This was 15 or so years ago. My older brother also met him when Leo Stern introduced him to Frank at a contest many years ago. Outside of Steve Reeves, to me Frank Zane is perhaps the best example of a genuine physical culturist. A sound mind in a sound body.
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He beats you hands down
I think he was 46 here
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8mho1dh-rT0q6hM1LxkaVVhIAZMGi6mWZUg&usqp=CAU)
50 here
(https://www.x-rep.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Frank-Zane-Studio-Relaxed-crop.jpg)
Zane has no legs in this pic at 46 they do not even exist he is maybe 170lbs about DJ size my arm is bigger than that leg
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Zane has no legs in this pic at 46 they do not even exist he is maybe 170lbs about DJ size my arm is bigger than that leg
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=626434.0;attach=713718;image) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=677725.0;attach=1355336;image)
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=656285.0;attach=777799;image) (https://contests.npcnewsonline.com/images/contests/1684/large/8417393.jpg)
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Zane has no legs in this pic at 46 they do not even exist he is maybe 170lbs about DJ size my arm is bigger than that leg
and your quads are akin to Paul Demayos at his best
Fucks sake Brian, why dont you replicate the pose for us
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Slim but excellent physique.
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here ya go, who's who?
SUBJECT “A”
A man of about thirty when I first met him, the winner of many physique contests – but a seething mass of emotions under an apparently calm exterior. Atypical in that he was willing to work and was reasonably successful in his own business.
I had been out of direct contact with the body building field for a number of years when I first met this subject, and I was then unaware of the use of drugs by bodybuilders – but he openly admitted that he was using at least one type of drug, and told me that he was as yet undecided about the effects, if any. Ten years later he heatedly denied ever having used drugs of any kind during several conversations on the subject and roundly condemned other leading bodybuilders for being “drug freaks;” but in another conversation – apparently having forgotten his previous denials – he admitted that he had used drugs, “once.”
During my first contact with this individual I broached the subject of weight-training but immediately realized that doing so was a mistake, his totally closed-minded attitude was far too obvious to overlook; so, since our relationship was not based upon physical training activities, and since I liked him as an individual, I never opened the subject with him again for a period of about ten years.
In the meantime, information that I considered of great significance had gradually come to my attention as a result of my continuing interest in the field of weight-training – and eventually, I felt that I should at least attempt to communicate some of these new developments to the individual under discussion. Which attempt was made – with, up to the moment, entirely negative results; at first he pretended interest while obviously not understanding even the basic principles involved – later he apparently started to suspect that there might at least be some financial opportunity, and he then promised full cooperation, but somehow always managed an excuse for failing to live up to any of his promises – still later, by which time the financial opportunity was obvious, he attempted, in his own words, “to jump on the bandwagon,” but he still failed to live up to any of his promises – finally, in cooperation with a number of associates, he started making outright attempts to belittle the significance of the new developments, while at the same time attempting to produce and market exercise machines based on the new principles, which principles he plainly did not understand.
When reports of his actions – which contrasted sharply with his statements – first reached me, I called him and asked for an explanation; and he denied all of the reports that had been brought to my attention. Repeatedly. Finally, in an effort to get the facts, I sent a friend around for the purpose of making an investigation, and then I telephoned and demanded an explanation.
During the course of a one-hour telephone conversation, his emotions ran the gamut from calm denials of obvious fact to outraged and irrational accusations; but he still attempted to deny undeniable facts.
None of which above-listed reactions are limited to bodybuilders, of course – but all of which (apart from this individual’s attitude towards gainful employment) seem to be typical of at least a very high percentage of advanced bodybuilders. Eighty percent? Ninety percent? Ninety-five percent? I don’t know, exactly – but a very, very high percentage.
SUBJECT “B”
A man of thirty-five, married to – or at least living with – a woman with a rather large number of children. While claiming a somewhat better than average educational background that qualified him for high school-level teaching positions, he sought low-paying employment in Florida in order, he said, to be able to devote most of his time and attention to body building training. In spite of his education, this subject avidly read all of the body building periodicals and admittedly believed everything he read.
Loud and pushy in situations where he felt confident, he was extremely hesitant and obviously unsure of himself in unfamiliar situations. Quick to jump to mistaken conclusions based on misunderstood hearsay, he was just as quick to change sides. Totally without regard for the rights or feelings of other people, he expected great consideration from everybody.
In the end he made the mistake of offering drugs to one of my children.
SUBJECT “C”
Approximately thirty, the picture of a man – or, at least, his picture of a man; sporty automobile, flashy clothes, unused sporting equipment of a wide variety, a wig. In short, a great assortment of possessions and attitudes, none of which were unusual or significant in themselves – but all of which, taken together, spelled “self doubt”.
In common with the previously-mentioned subjects – and with a very high percentage of advanced bodybuilders – everything in his life was strictly secondary to his body building aspirations.
SUBJECT “D”
In his late twenties, the owner of a business in a field related to the primary subject of this bulletin – which in itself is apparently part of an emerging pattern, since most advanced bodybuilders seem to eventually become involved commercially in the field. A cause – or an effect? Are such people unable to conform to normal society? Are they rejected by society and thus forced to seek the company of their peers?
While almost all advanced bodybuilders are jealous of contemporaries, and critical in the extreme, they nevertheless go to great lengths to seek approval from their imagined competition. Competition for what? Just what are the prizes, where is the hoped-for reward – the approval of an extremely closed society of individuals like themselves, who are apparently constitutionally incapable of bestowing actual approval on anybody? But this subject was atypical in that he could not – or would not – conform to the accepted rules of even his own chosen society, and was thus openly rejected even by his own. Perhaps a result of the fact that – unlike most advanced bodybuilders – he had been make independent by inherited wealth?
SUBJECT “E”
In his early twenties, an extreme example of a self-created freak – at least capable of apparently relaxed charm, an uncommon trait among bodybuilders in general: perhaps the result of having reached what he probably considers an unchallengeable pinnacle in his own limited world? Or is he really as confident as he appears on the surface? And if so, why must he make such efforts to constantly reprove himself?
This subject displays a trait that is currently very commonly encountered in body building circles – deceit; having lied about their measurements, their body weights, their strength, their training routines, and many other things almost as a matter of course, many advanced bodybuilders finally drift into a habit of habitually lying about almost everything.
SUBJECTS “F”, “G”, “H”, etc.
Having a lot in common with the general pattern of character traits displayed by the subjects mentioned above, the typical advanced bodybuilder of the moment is certainly not the “Ideal Man” described by weight-training publications.
The only question of real importance seems to be, “… are such traits a cause, or an effect.”
But the fact of these common traits is beyond question; and under the circumstances, it is only common sense to question the whole subject. There are exceptions, of course, but on the whole the character traits outlined above are extremely common – far more common than might be expected, far too common.
I can offer no solution to the problem – but I have personally learned to approach bodybuilders with great suspicion, expecting the worst.
and this tune.... FUCK YEAH!!!! just remembered it and had it blasting while i slammed up 205 for 5 decline gulliotenne style
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He isn't anywhere near 46 in those pics
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He has a big cock (no homo)
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and your quads are akin to Paul Demayos at his best
Fucks sake Brian, why dont you replicate the pose for us
Because I am not updating for 2 months but yeah my legs are pumped separated and vascular. His are clearly not in that pic
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Because I am not updating for 2 months but yeah my legs are pumped separated and vascular. His are clearly not in that pic
Brian, stop the bullshit.
no matter how you flex/sit against the tub your legs are like match sticks.
pathetic for someone with your drug history and training history
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bb A=bill pearl
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He isn't anywhere near 46 in those pics
You aren't anywhere near being in his shape at any age.
Zane at 64 years old:
(https://i.redd.it/l1hwi5qm2hh11.jpg) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676395.0;attach=1341706;image)
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bb A=bill pearl
That one I knew.
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You aren't anywhere near being in his shape at any age.
Zane at 64 years old:
(https://i.redd.it/l1hwi5qm2hh11.jpg) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676395.0;attach=1341706;image)
64 year old zane has him beat in the hair department as well
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bb B=roger callard
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bb C=boyer coe
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bb E=arnie
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bb C=boyer coe
Fucks sake dont you know how to edit a fucking post?
Stop multiple posting FFS
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Fucks sake dont you know how to edit a fucking post?
Stop multiple posting FFS
DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
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I’m 47 here…
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DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
OOOO big scary fucking stick insect
You are getting to be a pain in the fucking arse
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anybody here who claims otherwise have no comparison zane physique wise its inzane :D
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anybody here who claims otherwise have no comparison zane physique wise its inzane :D
Haven't you heard?
Mohammed is a midget and Zane is overrated built like a high school athlete nothing freaky about him
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Who is D?
F,G,H?
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anybody here who claims otherwise have no comparison zane physique wise its inzane :D
we going zany for zane
he's an ultra cool eye-talin american
love him to death 8) 8) 8)
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I’m 47 here…
looking great coach
52 here
(https://i.ibb.co/s1DsPS2/050417-14st-4lb.jpg)
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Who is D?
maybe c. dickerson ???
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Who is D?
F,G,H?
;D
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LOLOL full head of hair
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=690753.0;attach=1490154;image)
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maybe c. dickerson ???
How to find out for sure?
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How to find out for sure?
Contact Dickerson...oh wait...
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How to find out for sure?
he seems to be hinting that this individual is a f@ggot
so...
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he seems to be hinting that this individual is a f@ggot
so...
In a roundabout way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dickerson_(bodybuilder)
Wealthy family:
Dickerson was born in Montgomery, Alabama, on August 25, 1939.[4] He was the youngest of triplets.[5] His mother, Mahala Ashley Dickerson, was a lawyer and civil rights advocate for women and minorities. He graduated high school at Olney Friends School in 1957.[6] In 1959, he began attending the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York City, studying acting, singing, and ballet. There, a teacher recommended he strengthen his chest to strengthen his voice.
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You aren't anywhere near being in his shape at any age.
Zane at 64 years old:
(https://i.redd.it/l1hwi5qm2hh11.jpg) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676395.0;attach=1341706;image)
Not fair. You can’t compare empty belly vs. full belly IMHO
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looking great coach
52 here
(https://i.ibb.co/s1DsPS2/050417-14st-4lb.jpg)
Too bad you guy's can't match Bhanky.
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Not fair. You can’t compare empty belly vs. full belly IMHO
Unfortunately Zane took these pictures with a full belly.
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(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1475858_10152113759802146_43097840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=fJ8ltSn_szoAX8IWWAj&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&oh=00_AfCVLV5BUGxBBOi6_stK4ITdXm9p6Yc0W_6RnT0hTtcK3w&oe=65E9F873)
(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1488827_10152113757742146_886350903_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=QJ7cvZlwhBIAX8pBaYG&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&oh=00_AfAQmonw5o9PNAP238vs6GitqP2HHcUHxTcyyS6fob2wbw&oe=65EA0F86)
I`m 57 in these pics
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(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1475858_10152113759802146_43097840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=fJ8ltSn_szoAX8IWWAj&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&oh=00_AfCVLV5BUGxBBOi6_stK4ITdXm9p6Yc0W_6RnT0hTtcK3w&oe=65E9F873)
(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1488827_10152113757742146_886350903_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=QJ7cvZlwhBIAX8pBaYG&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&oh=00_AfAQmonw5o9PNAP238vs6GitqP2HHcUHxTcyyS6fob2wbw&oe=65EA0F86)
I`m 57 in these pics
Poor Brian, everytime someone posts a pic he drops a place
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Poor Brian, everytime someone posts a pic he drops a place
He's always (at) the bottom.
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Poor Brian, everytime someone posts a pic he drops a place
:D
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He's always (at) the bottom.
He`s better than Zane today though......also better than Viator,Oliva,Pearl,Colombu,Draper,and Scott...............FOR TODAY ONLY!! ;D
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WES NICE...GREAT BUILD.
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You aren't anywhere near being in his shape at any age.
Zane at 64 years old:
(https://i.redd.it/l1hwi5qm2hh11.jpg) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676395.0;attach=1341706;image)
I cannot imagine how he could recover from this. Scalped.
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WES NICE...GREAT BUILD.
Thanks Steve!!
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You aren't anywhere near being in his shape at any age.
Zane at 64 years old:
(https://i.redd.it/l1hwi5qm2hh11.jpg) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=676395.0;attach=1341706;image)
They actually shopped that pic of Zane to make his waist look better I have seen the original next to it. And yeah Zane was 170lbs after 45 years of age sorry but that is the truth.
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They actually shopped that pic of Zane to make his waist look better I have seen the original next to it. And yeah Zane was 170lbs after 45 years of age sorry but that is the truth.
gtfo :D
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They actually shopped that pic of Zane to make his waist look better I have seen the original next to it. And yeah Zane was 170lbs after 45 years of age sorry but that is the truth.
Regardless of weight, Zane would dwarf you.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=87305.0;attach=1082632;image) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=672165.0;attach=1309580;image)
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They actually shopped that pic of Zane to make his waist look better I have seen the original next to it. And yeah Zane was 170lbs after 45 years of age sorry but that is the truth.
zane even has him in the cock department 😂 ( no homo) Zane is basically slapping him around even skidmark dugdale would give him a run for his money in the trouser trout department
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zane even has him in the cock department 😂 ( no homo) Zane is basically slapping him around even skidmark dugdale would give him a run for his money in the trouser trout department
Bhank is more delusional than Jason Genova and Jason Blaha combined ;D
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Put up a pic of him at 46 years old he was DJ size at 46
Lol. You are a master at trolling.
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Bhank is more delusional than Jason Genova and Jason Blaha combined ;D
yup
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looking great coach
52 here
(https://i.ibb.co/s1DsPS2/050417-14st-4lb.jpg)
And hanky says he is better than you? hahahahaha
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(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/1488827_10152113757742146_886350903_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=4dc865&_nc_ohc=QJ7cvZlwhBIAX8pBaYG&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&oh=00_AfAQmonw5o9PNAP238vs6GitqP2HHcUHxTcyyS6fob2wbw&oe=65EA0F86)
I`m 57 in these pics
Wes has the physique at 57 that guys in their 20's would die for!
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Wes has the physique at 57 that guys in their 20's would die for!
Thanks for the kind words brother !!
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Thanks for the kind words brother !!
Yep. JOSH and WES walking the talk, looking fantastic.
BHANKY..............Hmmm mmmm
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Got that right and looks fresh, no atrophy, muscle tears etc.
Wes has the physique at 57 that guys in their 20's would die for!
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Thanks guys !!
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He said some funny shit roasting some of his contemporaries. The most surprising was what he said about Dickerson.
Arnold- on tv after the 79 Olympia he tells Arnold that winning his 3rd Olympia felt even better than beating Arnold in the Mr. Universe. He says Arnold called him up and was pissed that Frank said that. He says 'Arnold you love it when the joke's not on you. Lighten up!'
Chris Dickerson in 1982- "Chris was so arrogant that year, fuck you! You're lucky to have your 'mentor' Bill Pearl going around putting a bug in the judges ears.'
Franco- 'Franco won the Mr Olympia with a bitch tit and a gimp leg.'
Bill Pearl - He hit whatever poses he wanted. He didn't listen to the judges. He wasn't cut or ripped and they gave him the win.
Arnold - he said 'if people say you're great, that's what you want to hear. If you have to tell people you're great, you just sound like a fool '
I saw he was on Dennis James podcast from a few months ago and he just seemed elderly, a little cranky I guess, hard of hearing , a little impatient etc...he's got to be in his 80's.
Where is this interview available?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEE
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Where is this interview available?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEE
I watched them all on YOUTUBE, legends of Bodybuilding, whatever Dennis James podcast is called, and theres others. They're easy to find.Regardless of weight, Zane would dwarf you.
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=87305.0;attach=1082632;image) (https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=672165.0;attach=1309580;image)
Jesus, In the words of Zane Brian has a gimp leg and a bitch tit. 😳
Also echoing what others said: Wes that is an awesome physique for ANY age. I hope I can achieve anywhere near that at 57.
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I watched them all on YOUTUBE, legends of Bodybuilding, whatever Dennis James podcast is called, and theres others. They're easy to find.
Jesus, In the words of Zane Brian has a gimp leg and a bitch tit. 😳
Also echoing what others said: Wes that is an awesome physique for ANY age. I hope I can achieve anywhere near that at 57.
Thank you sir!! ;)
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Great looking physique Wes!! At any age but especially older. I am 59 so I know what it takes to maintain or achieve that build. It gets harder each decade! ( hell it gets harder each year lol)
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Zanes back.. Pretty good shot..
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Zanes back.. Pretty good shot..
Great shot.
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Actually I'd say that's an insane backshot!
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Zanes back.. Pretty good shot..
that's from 78 right?
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Zane always had a big head. He was good but will never be in in Bill Pearl's or Arnold's level. He's delusional if he thinks he is. Having said that he is an iconic bodybuilder.
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1. Zane always had a big head. He was good but will never be in in Bill Pearl's or Arnold's level. 2. He's delusional if he thinks he is. Having said that he is an iconic bodybuilder.
1. I would say most of them did/do.
2. I would say most of them are.
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Zane always had a big head. He was good but will never be in in Bill Pearl's or Arnold's level. He's delusional if he thinks he is. Having said that he is an iconic bodybuilder.
Unlike Pearl, Frank Zane is a multiple Olympia winner so that's pretty much same level ,,,, or maybe above.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH