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Title: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Lartinos on February 11, 2024, 01:43:32 PM
Could this be done in Humams?
Or is it not as dangerous there as people think?
https://news.sky.com/story/chernobyls-mutant-wolves-appear-to-have-developed-resistance-to-cancer-study-finds-13067292
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: IroNat on February 11, 2024, 02:32:02 PM
The wolves that didn't are dead.

Some wolves don't get cancer just like some humans.

Some researchers believe cancer is a metabolic disease, not genetic.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20181022/

Emerging evidence indicates that impaired cellular energy metabolism is the defining characteristic of nearly all cancers regardless of cellular or tissue origin. In contrast to normal cells, which derive most of their usable energy from oxidative phosphorylation, most cancer cells become heavily dependent on substrate level phosphorylation to meet energy demands. Evidence is reviewed supporting a general hypothesis that genomic instability and essentially all hallmarks of cancer, including aerobic glycolysis (Warburg effect), can be linked to impaired mitochondrial function and energy metabolism. A view of cancer as primarily a metabolic disease will impact approaches to cancer management and prevention.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: falco on February 12, 2024, 02:27:58 AM
Natural selection at its finest. The cancer prone wolves probably died before having the chance to breed.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: dj181 on February 12, 2024, 02:30:02 AM
they have a cure for cancer but they won't release it

why?

too much $$$ to be made on cancer "treatments"

fuck them all to hell
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: joswift on February 12, 2024, 02:36:15 AM
they have a cure for cancer but they won't release it

why?

too much $$$ to be made on cancer "treatments"

fuck them all to hell
No they dont, cancer gets everyone unless they die of something else first
Cells dont keep reproducing indefinitely, they always fuck up, thats cancer
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: IroNat on February 12, 2024, 06:21:21 AM
No they dont, cancer gets everyone unless they die of something else first
Cells dont keep reproducing indefinitely, they always fuck up, thats cancer

Cancer is over-production of cells. 
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 13, 2024, 12:51:32 AM
they have a cure for cancer but they won't release it

why?

too much $$$ to be made on cancer "treatments"

fuck them all to hell
Why do those at the top die of it?
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: joswift on February 13, 2024, 12:54:15 AM
Cancer is over-production of cells.
I know, cells are constantly reproducing, it just eventually fucks the process up and they start over/mass producing at a unsustainable rate
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: dj181 on February 13, 2024, 01:08:56 AM
Why do those at the top die of it?

it happens for the good of thier money making machine

they dont care who dies of it as long as they can keep getting the masses t spend spend and spend

more $$$$ for them
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: joswift on February 13, 2024, 01:10:53 AM
it happens for the good of thier money making machine

they dont care who dies of it as long as they can keep getting the masses t spend spend and spend

more $$$$ for them
its about power not money, anyone can print money
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: dj181 on February 13, 2024, 01:18:57 AM
its about power not money, anyone can print money

ok i stand corrected

it is bout this

wish to fuck i could get them into an isolated room

my god they would be in constant fear and pain would love to bestow this upon them
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 14, 2024, 12:02:56 AM
ok i stand corrected

it is bout this

wish to fuck i could get them into an isolated room

my god they would be in constant fear and pain would love to bestow this upon them
No doubt money and power are involved in keeping terminal patients alive but there is no cure for cancer or those at the top would never die from it.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Taffin on February 14, 2024, 10:23:19 AM
Natural selection at its finest. The cancer prone wolves probably died before having the chance to breed.

Reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story of the Mexican super-rats.  Someone told me the government gave people lots of cats and put lost of poison down.  So the few rats left were too big to be taken down by cats, and immune to the poison.  Then they bred...

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FLkamomR20vE%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=74663f50d4cc6aa7e212293ce704c40056ccf64e3a68f43f1fbcc3242a2299be&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 14, 2024, 04:23:08 PM
Reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story of the Mexican super-rats.  Someone told me the government gave people lots of cats and put lost of poison down.  So the few rats left were too big to be taken down by cats, and immune to the poison.  Then they bred...

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FLkamomR20vE%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=74663f50d4cc6aa7e212293ce704c40056ccf64e3a68f43f1fbcc3242a2299be&ipo=images)

Reminds me of the giant pigs here in the Deep South.


I saw a blurb today about how Putin says they developed a vaccine that can stop cancer. Wonder if these wolves have anything to do with it? ???
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 15, 2024, 12:12:08 AM
Reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story of the Mexican super-rats.  Someone told me the government gave people lots of cats and put lost of poison down.  So the few rats left were too big to be taken down by cats, and immune to the poison.  Then they bred...

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FLkamomR20vE%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=74663f50d4cc6aa7e212293ce704c40056ccf64e3a68f43f1fbcc3242a2299be&ipo=images)
Holy shit! Must be horrifying to run into them.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: falco on February 15, 2024, 03:41:07 AM
Reminds me of the giant pigs here in the Deep South.


I saw a blurb today about how Putin says they developed a vaccine that can stop cancer. Wonder if these wolves have anything to do with it? ???

Yep. Or the tiny pigs from those remote (Indonesia?) islands. Due to the scarcity of food, only the smaller ones survived and breed.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Taffin on February 15, 2024, 04:49:19 AM
Reminds me of the giant pigs here in the Deep South.

I saw a blurb today about how Putin says they developed a vaccine that can stop cancer. Wonder if these wolves have anything to do with it? ???

Google was not my friend here - what's this about giant pigs please?  All I found were African Hogs
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: falco on February 15, 2024, 05:05:14 AM
Google was not my friend here - what's this about giant pigs please?  All I found were African Hogs
Google "giant hogs Texas".

(https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-LD128_piglaw_DV_20101201182651.jpg)
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Taffin on February 15, 2024, 07:08:21 AM
Google "giant hogs Texas".

(https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-LD128_piglaw_DV_20101201182651.jpg)

Wow - thanks - 700 plus pounds and they can be eaten!  Another reason I want to visit Texas LOL

http://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/biggest-wild-hogs-ever/ (http://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/biggest-wild-hogs-ever/)
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: funk51 on February 15, 2024, 09:54:17 AM
   
   :o
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: funk51 on February 15, 2024, 09:56:49 AM
 
 
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2024, 12:10:55 AM
Google "giant hogs Texas".

(https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-LD128_piglaw_DV_20101201182651.jpg)
Most have been proven to be domesticated wild hogs that are released and then killed. They can tell by how worn down their teeth are from eating farm food. It takes too much time to forage for that much food in the wild to get that big.
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Taffin on February 16, 2024, 08:34:34 AM
Most have been proven to be domesticated wild hogs that are released and then killed. They can tell by how worn down their teeth are from eating farm food. It takes too much time to forage for that much food in the wild to get that big.

That sounds reasonable (although the term 'domesticated wild hogs' seems a touch paradoxical maybe?) - but I just want to know if they taste good  :P  I've always enjoyed watching legit US BBQ Pit style videos so the idea of a portion of one of these being smoked sounds delicious
Title: Re: Chernobyl’s Wolves Develop Cancer Resistance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 17, 2024, 12:06:19 AM
That sounds reasonable (although the term 'domesticated wild hogs' seems a touch paradoxical maybe?) - but I just want to know if they taste good  :P  I've always enjoyed watching legit US BBQ Pit style videos so the idea of a portion of one of these being smoked sounds delicious
Yeah, they raise them secretly and then claim a state or world record when they "hunt" them. I'm sure they taste delicious. :P