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Title: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 24, 2024, 07:23:13 PM
Go to 4:20

As he demonstrates the deadlift, he appears to have the perfect compact body type that would’ve easily been squatting in the 500LB range on leg day (without injury)

But I remember back then, he was squatting with at the most, 315LB on leg day.

Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: dj181 on February 24, 2024, 07:30:39 PM
He's a good dude would get my protection 💪💪💪
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: jude2 on February 24, 2024, 08:11:28 PM
Great complete physique and proportions.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: wes on February 24, 2024, 09:16:10 PM
He's a good dude would get my protection 💪💪💪
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 05:23:30 AM
That’s his range of motion on free weight squats. He could have been a squatting machine.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2024, 05:40:49 AM
That’s his range of motion on free weight squats. He could have been a squatting machine.

What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: bigkid on February 25, 2024, 05:41:02 AM
I thought this thread was going to be about Lee leveraging his influence in the business to get Hunter higher placings.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: dj181 on February 25, 2024, 05:53:35 AM
What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.

i did 1/4 squats as a teen to improve my vertical jump and it worked

i could dunk a volleyball but not a basketball needed bout 4 more inches to my vertical for that since i cant palm a basketball so i had to use two hands to dunk
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 05:53:58 AM
What do you think about the range? It looks good for muscle building but in say powerlifting that looks like 3-4 inches from breaking parallel, probably couldn't do it without widening his stance. You do not have to break parallel to build muscle, just analyzing his range. Those few inches could also easily reduce poundage by 150lbs in a lifter, depending on who it is, which is why squatting numbers are completely useless unless you see the actual squat.

Do I see a gut too? Yes there is but I'm not faulting him for it, he looked amazing.

It’s definitely above parallel. Haney squatted to roughly the same depth. But Labrada looks much more like a natural squater than Haney.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Hulkotron on February 25, 2024, 05:56:53 AM
He would look small standing next to bhanks.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: joswift on February 25, 2024, 05:58:03 AM


7mins 50, his curl is way stricter than any SC Brian has ever done

I bet Brian couldnt curl 100lbs like Labrada is doing there.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 07:49:43 AM


7mins 50, his curl is way stricter than any SC Brian has ever done

I bet Brian couldnt curl 100lbs like Labrada is doing there.

Labrada’s arms were THICK
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Gym Rat on February 25, 2024, 07:58:20 AM
Go to 4:20

As he demonstrates the deadlift, he appears to have the perfect compact body type that would’ve easily been squatting in the 500LB range on leg day (without injury)

But I remember back then, he was squatting with at the most, 315LB on leg day.


Thats plenty for BB and building Muscle.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 09:17:47 AM
It’s amazing to think that Labrada competed against:

Peak Haney at 1991 Mr Olympia
Peak Wheeler at 1993 Arnold Classic
Peak Yates at 1993 Mr Olympia
Peak Francois at 1995 Arnold Classic
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 09:37:55 AM
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Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: loco on February 25, 2024, 09:40:17 AM
Educated and well spoken, both in English and in Español.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 25, 2024, 10:00:03 AM
Seems like there are three kinds of squats.

1. Bodybuilder squats like Labrada did. Relatively close stance and a half squat. Feet are relatively straight.

2. Olympic squats with a high bar and hip wide to shoulder wide going ass to grass deep. Platz squatted like that. Shawn ray was a pretty deep squatter too. Knees and feet go out.

3. Power lifting with a super low bar placement. Wide stance and what could be described as a hip lock half squat. Interesting in powerlifting in the 70's and even early 80's many power lifters went pretty deep. Now the majority do a shallow squat that's a little over a half squat.

Regarding Labrada and his gut wearing a belt it happens to most with squatting. The gut comes out a bit. He always had a very tight waist on stage.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: loco on February 25, 2024, 10:18:12 AM
It’s amazing to think that Labrada competed against:

Peak Haney at 1991 Mr Olympia
Peak Wheeler at 1993 Arnold Classic
Peak Yates at 1993 Mr Olympia
Peak Francois at 1995 Arnold Classic

Didn't he place in the top 5 too most of the time?
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: joswift on February 25, 2024, 11:32:33 AM
Didn't he place in the top 5 too most of the time?

no
1986 IFBB Night of Champions (1st Place)
1987 IFBB Pro World Cup (2nd Place)
1987 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1988 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Greek Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro British Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Madrid (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Italian Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Dutch Grand Prix (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Finnish Grand Prix (1st Place)
1990 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1991 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1992 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1992 IFBB Pro World Cup (1st Place)
1993 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1995 IFBB Arnold Classic (5th Place)
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 12:00:11 PM
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Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Rambone on February 25, 2024, 02:32:38 PM
Did Lee grow a mustache in an attempt to excite the gay judges and draw more applause from the gay crowd? Or was it a Mentzer tribute? (The only way I’d be able to respect his grooming choices)
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 25, 2024, 02:45:07 PM
Did Lee grow a mustache in an attempt to excite the gay judges and draw more applause from the gay crowd? Or was it a Mentzer tribute? (The only way I’d be able to respect his grooming choices)

Definitely a Mentzer tribute.

Labrada was a disciple of Mentzer’s principles.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2024, 03:14:18 PM
From my understanding Hunter doesn't take Lee's advices much. But that's common, hard to take advices from very close relations
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2024, 03:16:18 PM
It’s definitely above parallel. Haney squatted to roughly the same depth. But Labrada looks much more like a natural squater than Haney.

Nothing wrong with that, but that's half a squat. But the form looks like it really hit quads as opposed to back or whatever.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Hulkotron on February 25, 2024, 03:16:56 PM
Jesus dude I have a 4-year degree in Finance. I am a Chartered Financial Analyst. I know all about leverage. I traded leverage derivatives for a decade. I know how leverage works. I have also bought and sold a half dozen properties over the years. I have had mortgages. I get a low interest rate is supposedly free money. Leverage increases your expected return it also increases your risk and expected losses. You put 10% down market drops 20% you are upside down on that mortgage now. I actually worked at Fannie Mae modelling and collateralizing whole loans into MBS for fuck sake dude tell me how leverage in real estate mortgages works.

You want to leverage 10 to 1 on a mortgage I can put the same money in a derivative contract and leverage 100 to 1. I don't need to use my house to create leverage.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: wes on February 25, 2024, 08:53:58 PM
Great video....he looks awesome !
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: GymnJuice on February 26, 2024, 04:50:02 AM
Jesus dude I have a 4-year degree in Finance. I am a Chartered Financial Analyst. I know all about leverage. I traded leverage derivatives for a decade. I know how leverage works. I have also bought and sold a half dozen properties over the years. I have had mortgages. I get a low interest rate is supposedly free money. Leverage increases your expected return it also increases your risk and expected losses. You put 10% down market drops 20% you are upside down on that mortgage now. I actually worked at Fannie Mae modelling and collateralizing whole loans into MBS for fuck sake dude tell me how leverage in real estate mortgages works.

You want to leverage 10 to 1 on a mortgage I can put the same money in a derivative contract and leverage 100 to 1. I don't need to use my house to create leverage.

Can confirm Hanky knows all about leverage. He once leveraged an ounce of bloody vomit into a gallon of blood.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: bigbychoices on February 26, 2024, 09:09:41 AM
    NO Lee did not do anything to look like or train like methead!!  Fuck!!  He had a well balanced and almost perfect physique. I trained with him a few times when he would come back to visit his wife's family in Maumee Ohio. I was in Toledo at that time ( many years ago.)  He was strong for his size  ( he was a lot bigger in person than he looks in magazines. Not height but width etc) but he didn't use super heavy weights.  He did more sets and reps and kept the weight heavy but never to failure ( at least when we trained)  In fact he said his pre contest training was basically the same as off season . Only more of it. He would use diet to fine tune things. No real injuries and didn't take the drugs to far. Just enough. Very nice guy. His son Hunter looks like a mess but so does all the pros now days. It is sad.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on February 26, 2024, 09:25:56 AM
    NO Lee did not do anything to look like or train like methead!!  Fuck!!  He had a well balanced and almost perfect physique. I trained with him a few times when he would come back to visit his wife's family in Maumee Ohio. I was in Toledo at that time ( many years ago.)  He was strong for his size  ( he was a lot bigger in person than he looks in magazines. Not height but width etc) but he didn't use super heavy weights.  He did more sets and reps and kept the weight heavy but never to failure ( at least when we trained)  In fact he said his pre contest training was basically the same as off season . Only more of it. He would use diet to fine tune things. No real injuries and didn't take the drugs to far. Just enough. Very nice guy. His son Hunter looks like a mess but so does all the pros now days. It is sad.

^^^this is RMJ11. He also claimed to have trained at Temple Gym.

More lies.

Sick delusional bastard.

Get a life.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Gym Rat on February 26, 2024, 11:35:46 AM
Lee makes his kid look foolish in comparison.
Like bigbychoices said, most do (look like shite) these days..
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Royalty on March 05, 2024, 10:44:49 PM
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Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: dj181 on March 06, 2024, 12:03:06 AM
his push wo

Workout 1- Chest, shoulders and triceps

Chest

Barbell bench press- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Dumbbell flys- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Incline dumbbell press- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Incline dumbbell flys- 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps
Cable crossovers- 3-4 sets of 12 reps
Dumbbell pullover- 3-4 sets of 12 reps
Shoulders

Dumbbell overhead press- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Lateral raises- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
One-arm lateral raises- 3-4 sets of 12 reps
Seated cable side raises- 3-4 sets 12 reps
Barbell upright rows- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Triceps

Bench dips- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps
Dumbbell skull crushers- 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps
One-arm dumbbell overhead extensions- 3-4 sets of 12 reps
Triceps pushdowns- 3-4 sets of 8-12 reps

this wo would take me the 4 hours :D :D :D

yesterday i did tris only, 4 exercieses and it took me over one hoour
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: IroNat on March 06, 2024, 04:29:17 AM
Full range of motion is over-rated for physique development.

Many great bodybuilders do not employ full range of motion.

Cutler, Sergio Oliva Sr., Danny Padilla, are a few.

There is definitely something to doing partial range of motion.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: IroNat on March 06, 2024, 04:31:35 AM
Lee makes his kid look foolish in comparison.
Like bigbychoices said, most do (look like shite) these days..

His son, like most of today's guys, lacks aesthetics.

One theory is the prevailing use of machines by today's bodybuilders, and of course the drugs used.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: CalvinH on March 06, 2024, 05:53:32 AM


yesterday i did tris only, 4 exercieses and it took me over one hoour

Thats because you are wasting time.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: IroNat on March 06, 2024, 06:22:20 AM
Jesus dude I have a 4-year degree in Finance. I am a Chartered Financial Analyst. I know all about leverage. I traded leverage derivatives for a decade. I know how leverage works. I have also bought and sold a half dozen properties over the years. I have had mortgages. I get a low interest rate is supposedly free money. Leverage increases your expected return it also increases your risk and expected losses. You put 10% down market drops 20% you are upside down on that mortgage now. I actually worked at Fannie Mae modelling and collateralizing whole loans into MBS for fuck sake dude tell me how leverage in real estate mortgages works.

You want to leverage 10 to 1 on a mortgage I can put the same money in a derivative contract and leverage 100 to 1. I don't need to use my house to create leverage.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZTUxMXhwaGF5a3VuOWtqdWliYzFid2NnMHdxanc5cnFsejQzZ21zeCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ZqlvCTNHpqrio/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: loco on March 06, 2024, 06:53:31 AM
no
1986 IFBB Night of Champions (1st Place)
1987 IFBB Pro World Cup (2nd Place)
1987 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1987 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1988 IFBB Pro German Grand Prix (3rd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Greek Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro British Grand Prix (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Madrid (1st Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Italian Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro French Grand Prix (2nd Place)
1988 IFBB Pro Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Dutch Grand Prix (1st Place)
1989 IFBB Pro Finnish Grand Prix (1st Place)
1990 IFBB Mr. Olympia (2nd Place)
1991 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1992 IFBB Mr. Olympia (3rd Place)
1992 IFBB Pro World Cup (1st Place)
1993 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic (2nd Place)
1993 IFBB Mr. Olympia (4th Place)
1995 IFBB Arnold Classic (5th Place)

Every single time then.  Thanks!   :)
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 06, 2024, 07:32:07 AM
It’s amazing to think that Labrada competed against:

Peak Haney at 1991 Mr Olympia
Peak Wheeler at 1993 Arnold Classic
Peak Yates at 1993 Mr Olympia
Peak Francois at 1995 Arnold Classic

And even more amazing is that he actually looked flawless standing relax next to Peak Wheeler in 93..but nobody would even mentioned.   



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: joswift on March 06, 2024, 08:10:13 AM
Every single time then.  Thanks!   :)
saying he placed top 5 most of the time was doing him a dis-service, he placed top 3 most of the time

hence why I corrected you.
Title: Re: Labrada and his leverage
Post by: loco on March 06, 2024, 01:49:03 PM
saying he placed top 5 most of the time was doing him a dis-service, he placed top 3 most of the time

hence why I corrected you.

Agreed.  I stand corrected.