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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Gym Rat on May 04, 2024, 11:10:47 AM
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23.99 - Free shipping
2.2 Lbs - 200 servings
https://horbaach.com/products/creatine-monohydrate-powder-2-2lbs
Never heard of them, but it arrived quick w/ no issues...
(https://horbaach.com/cdn/shop/files/71l94WhynL.ACSL1500.jpg?v=1709240899&width=375)
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23.99 - Free shipping
2.2 Lbs - 200 servings
https://horbaach.com/products/creatine-monohydrate-powder-2-2lbs
Never heard of them, but it arrived quick w/ no issues...
(https://horbaach.com/cdn/shop/files/71l94WhynL.ACSL1500.jpg?v=1709240899&width=375)
Cool.
How many grams a day are you taking ?
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Cool.
How many grams a day are you taking ?
Between 5-10 grams a day... I hear its got some good "brain health" benefits.
We all know I can use some help up there! ;)
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Creatine is not an opiate.
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Creatine is not an opiate.
Is it a drug, like Melatonin??
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"German creatine" when it's actually Chinese creatine. Not that you have to worry about fakes anyway. Usually German creatine refers to Creapure, the most trusted brand. But Creapure is more expensive. My friend just said, and we are fellow EU members, to order through Polish ebay to get the cheapest creatine.
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Be careful, brutes.
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23.99 - Free shipping
2.2 Lbs - 200 servings
https://horbaach.com/products/creatine-monohydrate-powder-2-2lbs
Never heard of them, but it arrived quick w/ no issues...
(https://horbaach.com/cdn/shop/files/71l94WhynL.ACSL1500.jpg?v=1709240899&width=375)
How is it working for you so far?
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Gym Rat shot up a local college campus, but other than that, all is well.
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I hope you know what you're doing
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I hope you know what you're doing
Don’t worry. He’s got the proper PCT protocol in place
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Did you partake in the "Loading Phase"?
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I don't know where that creatine comes from but Chinese sourced creatine is loaded with impurities. I would only use German creapure. The majority of creatine is sourced from China.
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Others I have used in the past never seemed to dissolved when stirred. Was gritty and chalky. How does this one mix?
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Just make sure you have your nolva and arimadex on hand bro. We don't need another fallen comrade in iron.
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"German creatine" when it's actually Chinese creatine. Not that you have to worry about fakes anyway. Usually German creatine refers to Creapure, the most trusted brand. But Creapure is more expensive. My friend just said, and we are fellow EU members, to order through Polish ebay to get the cheapest creatine.
I don't know where that creatine comes from but Chinese sourced creatine is loaded with impurities. I would only use German creapure. The majority of creatine is sourced from China.
Yup:
"The type of creatine primarily used in research to establish its safety and efficacy has traditionally been a micronized creatine monohydrate (CM) made by AlzChem in Germany under the brand name Creapure®; this brand of CM has been reported to produce CM that is 99.9% pure [1, 26, 35, 36]. Thus, it is typically considered the gold standard. CM may also come from sources produced in China that have different starting materials such as sarcosinates and S-alkylisothiourea (as opposed to sodium sarcosinate, acetic acid, and cyanamide) and have been reported to produce more contaminants due to the methods used to manufacture it [1, 35, 53]."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9761713/
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Is this 1994?
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Chinese creatine is tested for impurities a lot of times the consumers demand it. There's no reason why the Chinese would add impurities wilfully in their powders.. If crap is found in their supps, say goodbye to that business.
There was one joker here, a supp manufacturer, who said Creapure was the shittiest creatine around ;D But he never said why.
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Chinese creatine is tested for impurities a lot of times the consumers demand it. There's no reason why the Chinese would add impurities wilfully in their powders.. If crap is found in their supps, say goodbye to that business.
There was one joker here, a supp manufacturer, who said Creapure was the shittiest creatine around ;D But he never said why.
probably couldn't afford it
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Just make sure you have your nolva and arimadex on hand bro. We don't need another fallen comrade in iron.
x2 don't forget to get your "blood work" done
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probably couldn't afford it
Most likely
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Is this 1994?
Lots of studies since then showing Creatine's safety, benefits for muscles and the brain (in some people), and debunking the myths.
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23.99 - Free shipping
2.2 Lbs - 200 servings
https://horbaach.com/products/creatine-monohydrate-powder-2-2lbs
Never heard of them, but it arrived quick w/ no issues...
(https://horbaach.com/cdn/shop/files/71l94WhynL.ACSL1500.jpg?v=1709240899&width=375)
The same company has this one too, a couple of bucks cheaper on Amazon:
$71.99
2.2 Lbs - 200 servings
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https://horbaach.com/products/german-creatine-monohydrate-1000g-creapure-powder-vegetarian-non-gmo-gluten-free-supplement-promotes-stength-power-by-horbaach?_pos=2&_sid=9e05bdf0d&_ss=r
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I found this but will do more goggling.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/supplement/creatine#:~:text=Creatine%20appears%20to%20be%20generally,from%20making%20its%20own%20creatine.
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I found this but will do more goggling.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/supplement/creatine#:~:text=Creatine%20appears%20to%20be%20generally,from%20making%20its%20own%20creatine.
"Creatine appears to be generally safe, although when it is taken at high doses there is the potential for serious side effects, such as kidney damage. High doses may also stop the body from making its own creatine."
Probably from 1994. :D
Published online 2023 Mar 18
"Despite some anecdotal reports and experimental data suggesting that creatine could be deleterious to the kidneys, cumulative evidence from independent, randomized controlled trials clearly show this is not the case. We did identify some gaps in the literature, based on which we suggest that it is prudent to avoid creatine supplementation for those who have pre-existing kidney diseases resulting in very low kidney functions. For those at risk of decreased glomerular filtration rate (e.g., some older individuals or those with certain clinical conditions), monitoring kidney function while supplementing with creatine appears to be prudent, although large, relatively long-term studies have shown no risks. Finally, consumers should select creatine supplements that have been properly tested and certified for their quality/purity, avoiding the health risks associated with contaminants."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10054094/
Published online 2021 Feb 8
"Based on our evidence-based scientific evaluation of the literature, we conclude that:
1. Creatine supplementation does not always lead to water retention.
2. Creatine is not an anabolic steroid.
3. Creatine supplementation, when ingested at recommended dosages, does not result in kidney damage and/or renal dysfunction in healthy individuals.
4. The majority of available evidence does not support a link between creatine supplementation and hair loss / baldness.
5. Creatine supplementation does not cause dehydration or muscle cramping.
6. Creatine supplementation appears to be generally safe and potentially beneficial for children and adolescents.
7. Creatine supplementation does not increase fat mass.
8. Smaller, daily dosages of creatine supplementation (3-5 g or 0.1 g/kg of body mass) are effective. Therefore, a creatine ‘loading’ phase is not required.
9. Creatine supplementation and resistance training produces the vast majority of musculoskeletal and performance benefits in older adults. Creatine supplementation alone can provide some muscle and performance benefits for older adults.
10. Creatine supplementation can be beneficial for a variety of athletic and sporting activities.
11. Creatine supplementation provides a variety of benefits for females across their lifespan.
12. Other forms of creatine are not superior to creatine monohydrate."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/
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^^^ #5 is definitely false.
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5. Creatine supplementation does not cause dehydration or muscle cramping.
^^^ #5 is definitely false.
Definitely false? Based on what? The data shows the opposite actually:
Cramping and Injury Incidence in Collegiate Football Players Are Reduced by Creatine Supplementation
"Creatine users had significantly less cramping (χ21 = 5.35 P = .021); heat illness or dehydration (χ21 = 4.09, P = .043); muscle tightness (χ21 = 5.39, P = .020); muscle strains (χ21 = 5.36, P = .021); and total injuries (χ21 = 17.80, P<.001) than nonusers.
The incidence of cramping or injury in Division IA football players was significantly lower or proportional for creatine users compared with nonusers."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC233174/
Creatine monohydrate treatment alleviates muscle cramps associated with haemodialysis
"The frequency of symptomatic muscle cramps decreased by 60% in the creatine monohydrate treatment group (6.2+/-0.8 vs 2.6+/-1.8 times/4 weeks, P<0.05) during the treatment period.
These data suggest that creatine monohydrate can reduce the incidence of HAMC and that it may be a safe agent."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12401856/
Putting to rest the myth of creatine supplementation leading to muscle cramps and dehydration
"Recent reports now suggest that creatine may enhance performance in hot and/or humid conditions by maintaining haematocrit, aiding thermoregulation and reducing exercising heart rate and sweat rate. Creatine may also positively influence plasma volume during the onset of dehydration. Considering these new published findings, little evidence exists that creatine supplementation in the heat presents additional risk, and this should be taken into consideration as position statements and other related documents are published."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18184753/
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They can post all the reports they want but lifters know through experience about cramping as do all other athletes.
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They can post all the reports they want but lifters know through experience about cramping as do all other athletes.
The study participants were lifters.
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The study participants were lifters.
Should have tested football players, wrestlers and gymnasts.
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Should have tested football players, wrestlers and gymnasts.
They did.
Cramping and Injury Incidence in Collegiate Football Players Are Reduced by Creatine Supplementation
"Creatine users had significantly less cramping (χ21 = 5.35 P = .021); heat illness or dehydration (χ21 = 4.09, P = .043); muscle tightness (χ21 = 5.39, P = .020); muscle strains (χ21 = 5.36, P = .021); and total injuries (χ21 = 17.80, P<.001) than nonusers.
The incidence of cramping or injury in Division IA football players was significantly lower or proportional for creatine users compared with nonusers."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC233174/
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loco appears to have an iron-clad case here.
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Chinese creatine is tested for impurities a lot of times the consumers demand it. There's no reason why the Chinese would add impurities wilfully in their powders.. If crap is found in their supps, say goodbye to that business.
There was one joker here, a supp manufacturer, who said Creapure was the shittiest creatine around ;D But he never said why.
Remember when China killed a bunch of babies with impure baby formula that was modified to give a fake protein reading when tested? China also makes a lot of the vape fluid that has been found to contain a ton of crap. China cares about making money and not your health.
Creapure is the gold standard for clean creatine. I wouldn't eat a piece of bread made in China.
All I know is that creatine was the only supplement that actually worked for me. Maybe I was a good responder. No doubt I got more reps with the stuff. I stopped taking it when my doc said my kidney tests came back bad. He told me to stop taking creatine and what do you know the tests came back perfect. Some say creatine throws off kidney tests because of how it is processed in the body and changes to creatinine throwing off the kidney test.
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Remember when China killed a bunch of babies with impure baby formula that was modified to give a fake protein reading when tested? China also makes a lot of the vape fluid that has been found to contain a ton of crap. China cares about making money and not your health.
Creapure is the gold standard for clean creatine. I wouldn't eat a piece of bread made in China.
All I know is that creatine was the only supplement that actually worked for me. Maybe I was a good responder. No doubt I got more reps with the stuff. I stopped taking it when my doc said my kidney tests came back bad. He told me to stop taking creatine and what do you know the tests came back perfect. Some say creatine throws off kidney tests because of how it is processed in the body and changes to creatinine throwing off the kidney test.
It elevates creatinine. I won't use it.
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I use company “bulk supplements.com nutrition all supposed individually bagged pure form no additives fillers,they sell everything powders.
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Personally I prefer MCC Creatineby SNS or HCL Creatine by Concrete/ kaged or sns
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Personally I prefer MCC Creatineby SNS or HCL Creatine by Concrete/ kaged or sns
Creatine is creatine... No difference..