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Getting closer and closer...
Apparently Ukraine might fall in 2 weeks or so. The Western Deep State is desperate to prevent that. They are as delusional as they are clueless when it comes to balancing budgets. Russia's not fucking around. Russia should test their 100 Megaton model in the English Channel to wake the idiots up. Oh wait, it will be too late...
https://www.rt.com/russia/597049-putin-orders-tactical-nuclear-drills/
Putin orders tactical nuclear weapons drills
An exercise to check the military’s ability to use smaller-range systems was announced by the Defense Ministry on Monday
Russia will test its ability to deploy tactical nuclear weapons, the Defense Ministry announced on Monday. The drill will be conducted “in the near future” and was ordered by President Vladimir Putin, the statement said.
Missile forces of the Southern Military District will be directly involved in the exercise. It will also require the participation of military aircraft and the Russian Navy, the ministry said.
The goal of the exercise is to iron out “the practical aspects of the preparation and deployment of non-strategic nuclear weapons,” it added.
The military cited “provocative statements and threats against Russia by certain Western officials” as the reason for the drill. The troops will confirm that they can “ensure unconditional territorial integrity and sovereignty” of the nation, it added.
Moscow has a wide range of nuclear-capable weapons, from long-range intercontinental ballistic missiles to smaller-range tactical nukes. Amid the Ukraine conflict, senior Russian officials, including Putin, have stated that the country’s nuclear doctrine allows the use of these weapons when the existence of the nation is at stake.
The US and its allies have accused Moscow of nuclear saber-rattling. Putin said in March that at no point in the conflict has the situation required such a radical move as a nuclear strike.
https://www.rt.com/news/597053-democrat-leader-us-troops-ukraine/
Democrat leader warns US troops could enter Ukraine conflict
A military defeat for Kiev might compel Washington to send service members to the country, Congressman Hakeem Jeffries has said
The US may have to deploy troops to Ukraine if Kiev suffers a complete collapse against Russia, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries has said.
In an interview with CBS News released on Sunday, the senior Democratic lawmaker stressed the urgency of sending military aid to Ukraine, claiming that if those efforts failed, the US would potentially have to intervene directly in the conflict.
“We can’t let Ukraine fall because if it does, then there’s a significant likelihood that America will have to get into the conflict – not simply with our money, but with our servicewomen and our servicemen,” Jeffries said.
This stance, however, contradicts the long-standing policy of US President Joe Biden, who reiterated last month that he was “determined” not to send American troops to Ukraine. He noted that Kiev had so far not requested direct military intervention from Washington, expressing the belief that it could win the conflict with Russia if the US “stand with Ukraine and provide the weapons it needs to defend itself.”
Meanwhile, Jeffries claimed that US efforts to support Ukraine, including pushing a new $61 billion assistance package through Congress, had been stymied by what he called a “pro-Putin faction” within the Republican Party.
He singled out Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has called for funds to be used for domestic needs, rather than sent to Ukraine. Greene has insisted she “does not have any sympathy for… Russia” and that she is “only loyal to a single country: the United States of America.”
Jeffries’ comments about possible US intervention come after French President Emmanuel Macron refused to rule out sending Western troops to Ukraine. Last week, he suggested that Western nations “would legitimately have to ask [them]selves” whether they should deploy their militaries to the embattled country “if the Russians were to break through the front lines, [and] if there were a Ukrainian request.” Macron has further insisted that rhetoric of “strategic ambiguity” could project strength and deter Russia.
In response, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov suggested on Sunday that the French leader was “breathing caveman Russophobia” in the hope of using this sentiment to become the de-facto leader of the EU.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned in late February that the deployment of NATO troops to Ukraine would make a direct conflict between Russia and the US-led military bloc “inevitable.”
In the meantime, the Russian military has reported steady progress on the battlefield, capturing several settlements in Donbass in recent weeks.
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If Trump gets in this war will be over quick in a negotiated peace. Meanwhile connected Democrats are making a fortune over this war.
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Democrat leader warns US troops could enter Ukraine conflict
Just a total disaster of a US presidency...
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If Trump gets in this war will be over quick in a negotiated peace. Meanwhile connected Democrats are making a fortune over this war.
He will be surrounded by pro-Ukrainians. What can he do, he couldn't do mist of the stuff he promised last time. But who knows...
Imagine if humans go extinct by their own hand... it's just almost impossible to fathom, what a waste. Everything possible should be done to deescalate this situation by whatever means necessary, and I don't mean preemptive strikes on Russia. Because there's no scenario where Russia isn't able to respond in kind, everything will go black...
What in the fuck is the US doing by sending these funds to Ukraine, there are already tons of unannounced US troops ("advicers" or "technical personnel") on the ground there, and from many other countries, Russian can legitimately now claim it's between them and the US What a mess...
Hopefully this all a bad dream, or that Russia and the US and China are all working together in the dark ;D
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Getting closer and closer...
Apparently Ukraine might fall in 2 weeks or so. The Western Deep State is desperate to prevent that. They are as delusional as they are clueless when it comes to balancing budgets. Russia's not fucking around. Russia should test their 100 Megaton model in the English Channel to wake the idiots up. Oh wait, it will be too late...
Wait - is that hyperbole or did they design something like that? Did they strap 2 Tsar Bombas together? ;D
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Setting off a nuke in the English channel? Grow up you sound like Russian state TV ::)
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I'm glad the Russkies are practicing.
Practice makes perfect and we don't want any careless mistakes.
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I'm glad the Russkies are practicing.
Practice makes perfect and we don't want any careless mistakes.
Another western man that hates himself and wants to die.
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Another western man that hates himself and wants to die.
An accidental nuke drop on Ireland would be a tragedy.
You wouldn't want the Russkies to make a mistake like that would you, Ro?
So. it's good they are practicing.
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Nothing good comes without practice. Practice makes perfect. Putin is already perfect, so Putin is the only person on earth who doesn’t need practice. Bombs away!
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He will be surrounded by pro-Ukrainians. What can he do, he couldn't do mist of the stuff he promised last time. But who knows...
Imagine if humans go extinct by their own hand... it's just almost impossible to fathom, what a waste. Everything possible should be done to deescalate this situation by whatever means necessary, and I don't mean preemptive strikes on Russia. Because there's no scenario where Russia isn't able to respond in kind, everything will go black...
What in the fuck is the US doing by sending these funds to Ukraine, there are already tons of unannounced US troops ("advicers" or "technical personnel") on the ground there, and from many other countries, Russian can legitimately now claim it's between them and the US What a mess...
Hopefully this all a bad dream, or that Russia and the US and China are all working together in the dark ;D
You already know this, I'm sure. It is because we have a corrupt military industrial complex. Our government sends tax dollars to Ukraine, who buys our arms, and the military kicks it back to the politicians on the back end. I think the whole thing is crooked. They hide their kickbacks in different ways. The media should have focused more on how much Hunter Biden really got paid from Burisma and whoever else in Ukraine. And I'll point out again that I don't think Putin is a "good guy" and I don't think Ukrainians deserved to be invaded, since it ruffles feathers when I discuss the corruption.
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Vlad is "Putin it" in Uke's grommet...
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You already know this, I'm sure. It is because we have a corrupt military industrial complex. Our government sends tax dollars to Ukraine, who buys our arms, and the military kicks it back to the politicians on the back end. I think the whole thing is crooked. They hide their kickbacks in different ways. The media should have focused more on how much Hunter Biden really got paid from Burisma and whoever else in Ukraine. And I'll point out again that I don't think Putin is a "good guy" and I don't think Ukrainians deserved to be invaded, since it ruffles feathers when I discuss the corruption.
Yeah - if nothing else, the at times adversarial nature of GetBig has meant that I have often been able to read posts that help me understand both sides of 'a thing'. Applying my own armchair logic (aka common sense deduction) here, it seems obvious that since the MIC was geared up for WW3 during the Cold War, then when the Berlin Wall crumbled they urgently needed to find other 'enemies' to keep the money flowing. Whether they create or exaggerate threats is for cleverer people than me to say, but I can't see that China or Russia want to take over the world, as the hysterical media sometimes like to portray...
Total tangent - this kind of parallels the LGBTQIA+ situation - once they'd basically achieved gay rights, they needed another cause to fight for - enter the whole trans thing to our confusion
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You already know this, I'm sure. It is because we have a corrupt military industrial complex. Our government sends tax dollars to Ukraine, who buys our arms, and the military kicks it back to the politicians on the back end. I think the whole thing is crooked. They hide their kickbacks in different ways. The media should have focused more on how much Hunter Biden really got paid from Burisma and whoever else in Ukraine. And I'll point out again that I don't think Putin is a "good guy" and I don't think Ukrainians deserved to be invaded, since it ruffles feathers when I discuss the corruption.
I think it's about money but also that the US can maintain hegemony over the world, which basically is about money in the end too right? So the US is scrambling, fighting both Russia and China for hegemony.
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Wait - is that hyperbole or did they design something like that? Did they strap 2 Tsar Bombas together? ;D
Haha! :)
From what I recall, the original King Bomb device could have a yield of about 100 MT, but the Ruskies opted for the smaller, 50ish megaton version.
I reckon you're just teasin' about the 100 megaton bomb anyway, though, right, Obsidian? I'm not sure the Russians even have a bomber that could even accommodate such a thing ;) But even if we're just talking sci-fi here, a weapon of that scale would, for many, many reasons, be worthless in any strategic sense.
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OAK at the frontlines please!
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OAK at the frontlines please!
Cant join, hurt himself shitting...
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Wait - is that hyperbole or did they design something like that? Did they strap 2 Tsar Bombas together? ;D
The original design was 100 megatons. They scaled it back to 50 megatons. But when the Tsar Bombas test concluded the yield was actually 58 megatons. So it is possible the 100 megaton design would have been above that number if it was actually detonated.
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Setting off a nuke in the English channel? Grow up you sound like Russian state TV ::)
If Ukraine, with the help of the USA / Britain / France / NATO, succeed in destroying the Crimean bridge, perhaps the Chunnel will be a legitimate target by Russia.
I blame the US / Deep State for the disaster in Ukraine. Over 600,000 men died because the military industrial complex wants to weaken Russia, topple the Russian government, and steal its resources as they did in Iraq / Libya.
Ukrainian men are cannon fodder Goy / Gentiles and the Deep State don't give a fuck about these casualties at all. Ukrainians should start sabotaging their infrastructure and openly invite Russia in to help save them from the Deep State Zionist Monster that will genocide their Gentile population.
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If Ukraine, with the help of the USA / Britain / France / NATO, succeed in destroying the Crimean bridge, perhaps the Chunnel will be a legitimate target by Russia.
I blame the US / Deep State for the disaster in Ukraine. Over 600,000 men died because the military industrial complex wants to weaken Russia, topple the Russian government, and steal its resources as they did in Iraq / Libya.
Ukrainian men are cannon fodder Goy / Gentiles and the Deep State don't give a fuck about these casualties at all. Ukrainians should start sabotaging their infrastructure and openly invite Russia in to help save them from the Deep State Zionist Monster that will genocide their Gentile population.
Sending a nuke towards the UK because Putins baby the Kirch bridge is blown again aww poor big baby with his nuclear tantrums. I hope your including Russian soldiers in your casuality figure, men flung in to battle like fodder meat to gain a few little settlements here and there. Ukraine would not be safe under Russias wing, Russia is not liberating Ukraine and wants the land for its own uses. When did the West invade Russia again?
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He will use tactical nukes just battlefield type and hope that that escalation sends a message, but like others I have no doubt that where he feels he has too he will escalate further, hopefully the west wakes up. Let him have the Donbas or Eastern Ukraine, they're all Russians anyway, in exchange for Ukraine to remain neutral non NATO in the future. Too many people have died already he won't lie down, he said Ukraine was the red line with NATO expansion and he meant it,
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There was no foreseeable hope for Ukraine joining Nato. This was not about to happen. Russian speaking and Russian are different. If tactical nukes were used on the battlefield then that would elicit Nato intervention in a big way.
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OAK at the frontlines please!
He's too damaged from the clot shot booster shots to be accepted by any military.
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Sending a nuke towards the UK because Putins baby the Kirch bridge is blown again aww poor big baby with his nuclear tantrums. I hope your including Russian soldiers in your casuality figure, men flung in to battle like fodder meat to gain a few little settlements here and there. Ukraine would not be safe under Russias wing, Russia is not liberating Ukraine and wants the land for its own uses. When did the West invade Russia again?
The USA invaded Ukraine in 2014 when they fomented a coup against the democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych. See parts of Ukraine used to be included in Khazaria. The 2014 Ukrainian Coup was another Zionist intervention. Victoria Nulan was giving out cookies to the protesters for crying out loud.
It's too bad the Ukrainian gentiles again were genocided by the Zionists, as they were during the Holodomor.
Make no mistake, the Deep State wanted to dismantle Russia as they did Iraq and Libya. This Deep State Cabal has been active for centuries. Any peace agreement that might materialize in the next few years will be broken again at some point. Russia really has no choice but to destroy the Deep State. Trump does not have the means to do it. The US military won't do it because war is their "Bread and Butter". But perhaps they might once the dollar collapses and the Deep State loses their leverage and bargaining chips. Either way, this Cabal needs to pay for their crimes. Their entire blood line needs to be wiped out. Zero mercy! No deals can be made with them, ever. The only solution is to exterminate them.
(https://ujetimeline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/01-12_khazaria_850-CE_03_01_Eng.jpg)
(https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2013/12/1213-world-Nuland2.jpg?alias=standard_900x600)
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https://www.blackagendareport.com/documents-reveal-us-govt-spent-22m-promoting-anti-russia-narrative-ukraine-and-abroad
(https://www.blackagendareport.com/sites/default/files/2022-02/Nuland%20cookies.jpg)
Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland offers cookies to protesters in Independence Square in Kiev, Dec. 11, 2013. Andrew Kravchenko | AP
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There was no foreseeable hope for Ukraine joining Nato. This was not about to happen. Russian speaking and Russian are different. If tactical nukes were used on the battlefield then that would elicit Nato intervention in a big way.
NATO will be wiped out. Russia's not playing games. They care about their territory and will be willing to go down with the ship if needed. It's no different than Israel's Samson Option. And Russia has more Nukes, more determination. The West is collapsing morally and demographically. Sweden's future is Somalia and Non Whites. Who will you bet on coming out on top, Russians or Mongrel Swedes?
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There was no foreseeable hope for Ukraine joining Nato. This was not about to happen. Russian speaking and Russian are different. If tactical nukes were used on the battlefield then that would elicit Nato intervention in a big way.
Ron you quote everything CNN but you can't find this type of stuff NBC from well before the coup {2009} and the annexation of Crimea
Washington supports Ukraine's bid to join NATO and the former Soviet republic is free to choose its own foreign policy alliances regardless of what other nations want, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden told Ukraine's president on Tuesday.
Both assertions were a shot at Russia, which vehemently opposes having its neighbors join the Western military alliance and is uncomfortable with their desire for greater economic and political integration with West.
Biden met with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev, then said in a speech later that if Ukraine chooses to join NATO, "which I believe you have, we strongly support that."
Polls have shown a majority of Ukrainians to be against NATO membership.
Ukrainian officials, meanwhile, were looking for signals that Washington's effort to improve ties with Moscow would not hurt its Western integration, and also for support as Russia tries to reassert some control over its former Soviet satellite states.
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Sending a nuke towards the UK because Putins baby the Kirch bridge is blown again aww poor big baby with his nuclear tantrums. I hope your including Russian soldiers in your casuality figure, men flung in to battle like fodder meat to gain a few little settlements here and there. Ukraine would not be safe under Russias wing, Russia is not liberating Ukraine and wants the land for its own uses. When did the West invade Russia again?
Russia is not liberating Ukraine and wants the land for its own uses.
And America Doesn't ?
When did the West invade Russia again? They would if they thought they'd get away with it - & they've invaded plenty of other countries - were you
equally as outraged about those invasions ?
Ro I understand you have a Ukrainian girlfriend - only all you say about
Russia can also be said for America /UK & others.
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The USA invaded Ukraine in 2014 when they fomented a coup against the democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych. See parts of Ukraine used to be included in Khazaria. The 2014 Ukrainian Coup was another Zionist intervention. Victoria Nulan was giving out cookies to the protesters for crying out loud.
It's too bad the Ukrainian gentiles again were genocided by the Zionists, as they were during the Holodomor.
Make no mistake, the Deep State wanted to dismantle Russia as they did Iraq and Libya. This Deep State Cabal has been active for centuries. Any peace agreement that might materialize in the next few years will be broken again at some point. Russia really has no choice but to destroy the Deep State. Trump does not have the means to do it. The US military won't do it because war is their "Bread and Butter". But perhaps they might once the dollar collapses and the Deep State loses their leverage and bargaining chips. Either way, this Cabal needs to pay for their crimes. Their entire blood line needs to be wiped out. Zero mercy! No deals can be made with them, ever. The only solution is to exterminate them.
(https://ujetimeline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/01-12_khazaria_850-CE_03_01_Eng.jpg)
(https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2013/12/1213-world-Nuland2.jpg?alias=standard_900x600)
The majority of Ukrainians wanted a new government in 2014, it was not a coup, western backed sure but its still what the people wanted. Russia has long been a big bully to Ukraine. Ukraine wants freedom and sovereignty. "The West" the evil west might be the devil Ukraine is willing to put her trust in because that devil supports her right to exist seperate from Russia. Without western support Ukraine would not have her own autonomy and you may say well she has a new ruler now then yes maybe I would agree with you but its the better of two devils. Russia is not fighting a holy war, far from it.
Ukrainian gentiles are not being genocided by Jews. Russia is not the worlds savoir.
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NATO will be wiped out. Russia's not playing games. They care about their territory and will be willing to go down with the ship if needed. It's no different than Israel's Samson Option. And Russia has more Nukes, more determination. The West is collapsing morally and demographically. Sweden's future is Somalia and Non Whites. Who will you bet on coming out on top, Russians or Mongrel Swedes?
Nato is a vastly superior strength than what Russia can fight with in a non nuclear capacity. Everyone knows nuclear war is total annihilation for everyone.
I don't bet on either Russia or the Mongrol Swedes coming out on top. I try to picture an outcome favourable to the great white race that does not include living under Russias empire.
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Ron you quote everything CNN but you can't find this type of stuff NBC from well before the coup {2009} and the annexation of Crimea
Washington supports Ukraine's bid to join NATO and the former Soviet republic is free to choose its own foreign policy alliances regardless of what other nations want, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden told Ukraine's president on Tuesday.
Both assertions were a shot at Russia, which vehemently opposes having its neighbors join the Western military alliance and is uncomfortable with their desire for greater economic and political integration with West.
Biden met with President Viktor Yushchenko in Kiev, then said in a speech later that if Ukraine chooses to join NATO, "which I believe you have, we strongly support that."
Polls have shown a majority of Ukrainians to be against NATO membership.
Ukrainian officials, meanwhile, were looking for signals that Washington's effort to improve ties with Moscow would not hurt its Western integration, and also for support as Russia tries to reassert some control over its former Soviet satellite states.
I dont watch CNN.
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Russia is not liberating Ukraine and wants the land for its own uses.
And America Doesn't ?
When did the West invade Russia again? They would if they thought they'd get away with it - & they've invaded plenty of other countries - were you
equally as outraged about those invasions ?
Ro I understand you have a Ukrainian girlfriend - only all you say about
Russia can also be said for America /UK & others.
Yes America does too but America has good relations with Ukraine whether we like it or not. Russia aggressively entered Ukrainian territory spreading death and destruction. A bit different.
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Ukraine is as independent of Russia as Ireland is of Britain, hence your affection for Ukraine as deep down you really know they are as Russian as you are British.
;D.
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Yes America does too but America has good relations with Ukraine whether we like it or not. Russia aggressively entered Ukrainian territory spreading death and destruction. A bit different.
You missed the 2nd part of my reply.
America has good relations with Ukraine because Biden has been cleaning $s through them
& Big Business wants to take all they can out of there.
There's no love for Ukraine otherwise just another means to an end.
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Ukraine is as independent of Russia as Ireland is of Britain, hence your affection for Ukraine as deep down you really know they are as Russian as you are British.
;D.
Well that would be Vlad Putins perspective because it suits his ambitions. Imagine Ireland going over and saying this patch of England will now be called mine, it was always mine and I am just coming to take it back. ::)
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You missed the 2nd part of my reply.
America has good relations with Ukraine because Biden has been cleaning $s through them
& Big Business wants to take all they can out of there.
There's no love for Ukraine otherwise just another means to an end.
Yes maybe but Ukraine will take all the help it will get to take on the might of Russia.
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Well that would be Vlad Putins perspective because it suits his ambitions. Imagine Ireland going over and saying this patch of England will now be called mine, it was always mine and I am just coming to take it back. ::)
I thought that's what they tried in Belfast?
;D
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The USA invaded Ukraine in 2014 when they fomented a coup against the democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych. See parts of Ukraine used to be included in Khazaria. The 2014 Ukrainian Coup was another Zionist intervention. Victoria Nulan was giving out cookies to the protesters for crying out loud.
It's too bad the Ukrainian gentiles again were genocided by the Zionists, as they were during the Holodomor.
Make no mistake, the Deep State wanted to dismantle Russia as they did Iraq and Libya. This Deep State Cabal has been active for centuries. Any peace agreement that might materialize in the next few years will be broken again at some point. Russia really has no choice but to destroy the Deep State. Trump does not have the means to do it. The US military won't do it because war is their "Bread and Butter". But perhaps they might once the dollar collapses and the Deep State loses their leverage and bargaining chips. Either way, this Cabal needs to pay for their crimes. Their entire blood line needs to be wiped out. Zero mercy! No deals can be made with them, ever. The only solution is to exterminate them.
(https://ujetimeline.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/01-12_khazaria_850-CE_03_01_Eng.jpg)
(https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2013/12/1213-world-Nuland2.jpg?alias=standard_900x600)
Yeah, NATO doesn't allow free elections unless they approve of the outcome.
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Would be more worried about the nuclear ships and submarines disintegrating in Russian harbours.
They don't have the money to remove the reactors so as the ships rust apart the radioactive waste is leaking into the ocean.
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Would be more worried about the nuclear ships and submarines disintegrating in Russian harbours.
They don't have the money to remove the reactors so as the ships rust apart the radioactive waste is leaking into the ocean.
Is there much to be worried about - as Chernobyl from what I've seen
is being re habited by people & animals also Nagasaki & Hiroshima seem
okay. just maybe yet again what we were told about the dangers were either exaggerated or lies. IDK.
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I thought that's what they tried in Belfast?
;D
Northern Irish is not a proper nationality.
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Northern Irish is not a proper nationality.
I never had a problem with the Irish & most i met were friendly.
Was a few dickheads but mainly youngsters (as i was too) & i found the UDR were more aggressive than we were.
I remember watching the Prisoners playing football in the Maze Prison (Long Kesh what ever you want to call it)
I also remember the prison in Belfast , Crumlin Road & the prisoners were worse.
It´s a shame i never got to see S Ireland.
I also visited Derry or as we call it Londonderry.. Got Aggro ;D
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Derry would be the correct spelling ;)
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Is there much to be worried about - as Chernobyl from what I've seen
is being re habited by people & animals also Nagasaki & Hiroshima seem
okay. just maybe yet again what we were told about the dangers were either exaggerated or lies. IDK.
A person can only safely stay in Chernobyl for a few hours from what I understand.
Compared to Nagasaki and Hiroshima it apparently contained far more radioactive material.
The problem with radioactive material leaking into the sea is that currents slowly transfer it across long distances, far from the region.
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Derry would be the correct spelling ;)
as i wrote nothing against the Irish :)
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A person can only safely stay in Chernobyl for a few hours from what I understand.
Compared to Nagasaki and Hiroshima it apparently contained far more radioactive material.
The problem with radioactive material leaking into the sea is that currents slowly transfer it across long distances, far from the region.
I think Putin is talking about "Tactical Nukes" which will hit a planned area & of course will cause serious problems for an advancing army.
I believe OneMoreRep is an ex Gunner in the Marines so he will know this.
Back in the day we were tought to fire a Nuclear round on the M109 Gun as did the other American Guns the M107, M110 which we British used in Germany.
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If anyone nukes anyone, it will be a mistake, more than likely.
No sane individual wants to instigate that hell.
Of course, filthy Muzzies are a different thing. These freak losers would happily start armageddon.
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I think Putin is talking about "Tactical Nukes" which will hit a planned area & of course will cause serious problems for an advancing army.
I believe OneMoreRep is an ex Gunner in the Marines so he will know this.
Back in the day we were tought to fire a Nuclear round on the M109 Gun as did the other American Guns the M107, M110 which we British used in Germany.
What kind of level of damage did they say was expected from weaponry like that?
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What kind of level of damage did they say was expected from weaponry like that?
15-18 kilotons. About the same as Hiroshima / Nagasaki. It can cause a tremendous amount of damage depending on where it is detonated.
(https://api.army.mil/e2/c/images/2019/04/15/549453/max1200.jpg)
Correction:
The 15-18KT yield was for the M65 Atomic Cannon. Looks like the M109 could theoretically have fired nuclear artillery with a yield of around 2KT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_atomic_cannon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_artillery
155mm W82 nuclear artillery shell, cancelled. Likely would have been delivered by M109 self-propelled, M114 towed howitzers and M198 towed howitzers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W82
The W82 (also known as the XM785 shell) was a low-yield tactical nuclear warhead developed by the United States and designed to be used in a 155 mm artillery shell. It was conceived as a more flexible replacement for the W48, the previous generation of 155 mm nuclear artillery shell. A previous attempt to replace the W48 with the W74 munition was canceled due to cost.
Originally envisioned as a dual-purpose weapon, with interchangeable components to allow the shell to function as either a standard fission explosive or an enhanced radiation device, the warhead was developed at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory[1] starting in 1977. The eventual prototype round had a yield of 2 kt (8.4 TJ) in a package 34 inches (860 mm) long and weighing 95 pounds (43 kg),[1] which included the rocket-assisted portion of the shell. The unit cost of the weapon was estimated at US$4 million.[2]: 93 Although enhanced radiation devices were considered more effective at blunting an invasion due to the high neutron flux they produce, the more complex design eventually led to the cancellation of the dual-purpose W82-0 program in 1982. Development of a standard weapon, the W82-1, was restarted in 1986. The program was finally cancelled in 1991 due to the end of the Cold War.
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^^^ I wouldn't want to be the artillery man launching that. You would probably be taking in some serious radiation.
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Brutal if true
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Brutal if true
And you wouldn't recover.
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If we die, we die.
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^^^ I wouldn't want to be the artillery man launching that. You would probably be taking in some serious radiation.
Yes each Gun Battery had to always have a trained team for the task, i got spammed for it twice.
we had a tool kit special for the fuzing & setting the Round, infact it was like a surgical operation as 1 guy was the "toolman" who passed the tools to me & another guy ..we were attaching the fuze & setting it.
The fuze was nothing like a normal fuze for say HE or smoke, illuminating rounds.
It also had numbers running top to bottom in a small window, not like a normal fuze.
after me & the other guy fuzed it & set it it was carried in a special cradle to a Gun which was then Layed & fired the round.
we were in full nuclear kit masked up Noddy suite on.
as far as i remember we had Trenches dug which we were to shelter in.. as much use as Tits on a fish ..fire it & die
being young men at the time i don´t think we really understood the consequences of our actions & the seriousness of it all.
We worked & trained with (if my memory is OK) with the US 15 USAFAD Sennelager. infact we stole their flag :)
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I should also point out we used a training round which was an exact replica of the real one. It also came packed in a special metal container which had a window that showed if the round was OK, we had a saying to remind us ,
"Blue is true...Pink stinks" so if it showed the colour Blue it was OK.
I think it had something to do with humidity.
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Whether you like it or not, Putin isn't known for fucking around or about. He is literally known in the diplomatic circles for being direct.
And yet, here we are, Gringos, trying to prove he is bluffing when he's literally done every single thing he said he was going to do.
Now we want to test his nuclear resolve.
This isn't stupid, it's suicidal.
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15-18 kilotons. About the same as Hiroshima / Nagasaki. It can cause a tremendous amount of damage depending on where it is detonated.
(https://api.army.mil/e2/c/images/2019/04/15/549453/max1200.jpg)
Correction:
The 15-18KT yield was for the M65 Atomic Cannon. Looks like the M109 could theoretically have fired nuclear artillery with a yield of around 2KT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M65_atomic_cannon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_artillery
155mm W82 nuclear artillery shell, cancelled. Likely would have been delivered by M109 self-propelled, M114 towed howitzers and M198 towed howitzers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W82
The W82 (also known as the XM785 shell) was a low-yield tactical nuclear warhead developed by the United States and designed to be used in a 155 mm artillery shell. It was conceived as a more flexible replacement for the W48, the previous generation of 155 mm nuclear artillery shell. A previous attempt to replace the W48 with the W74 munition was canceled due to cost.
Originally envisioned as a dual-purpose weapon, with interchangeable components to allow the shell to function as either a standard fission explosive or an enhanced radiation device, the warhead was developed at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory[1] starting in 1977. The eventual prototype round had a yield of 2 kt (8.4 TJ) in a package 34 inches (860 mm) long and weighing 95 pounds (43 kg),[1] which included the rocket-assisted portion of the shell. The unit cost of the weapon was estimated at US$4 million.[2]: 93 Although enhanced radiation devices were considered more effective at blunting an invasion due to the high neutron flux they produce, the more complex design eventually led to the cancellation of the dual-purpose W82-0 program in 1982. Development of a standard weapon, the W82-1, was restarted in 1986. The program was finally cancelled in 1991 due to the end of the Cold War.
So 2 Kilotons of explosive power from 155mm artillery or a tank gun.
Which would be extremely powerful, considering Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts were about 15 and 20 kilotons.
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So 2 Kilotons of explosive power from 155mm artillery or a tank gun.
Which would be extremely powerful, considering Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts were about 15 and 20 kilotons.
It´s designed to hit a very specific area, remember it´s a tactical nuke.
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All "Gunners" know this and rule the Battlefield. Indeed Napoleon said Guns are the power in the Field..Stalin something similar.
Proud to be an ex Gunner :)
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excellent Drills from the Royal navy Gunners. "The Guns are your Colours"
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All "Gunners" know this and rule the Battlefield. Indeed Napoleon said Guns are the power in the Field..Stalin something similar.
Proud to be an ex Gunner :)
"He who has the big guns wins" isn't just a bodybuilding axiom.
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"He who has the big guns wins" isn't just a bodybuilding axiom.
Yes & my Cannon is Big ;D
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These two are confused about why the West is making all these mistakes and why Austin can't give a direct answer. Well, if the goal is depopulation then it all makes sense. But they fail to go there. Basically, the goyim dying on both sides in Ukraine are a plus for the Zionists. And if it escalates to WW3 more goyim can die. The instigators have their bunkers.
The entertainment industry sometimes drops hints. In Fallout they decided to use Nukes so they could justify their vault business and because they wanted to preemptively strike to direct and control a collapse. And for greedy reasons they wanted to shape society all over again in their vaults, and observe and experiment with different outcomes. One scenario a conspirator floated was stocking a vault with limited resources and placing too many people in it. That way it could satisfy his curiosity about human behavior in an entertaining manner.
In the real world, it could be that the globalist elite want to bring down the world's population in a controlled manner to around 500 million people. The upcoming AI and robotic innovations would also reduce the need for billions of people. Perhaps Russia and China are part of this agenda - Trump as well. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors. This could all be scripted.
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This war would be over in 20 minutes with these guys….
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Those Slav Mongoloids are not capable of safely handling such technology.
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Those Slav Mongoloids are not capable of safely handling such technology.
That won't stop them from trying. They may blow themselves up.
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Whether you like it or not, Putin isn't known for fucking around or about. He is literally known in the diplomatic circles for being direct.
And yet, here we are, Gringos, trying to prove he is bluffing when he's literally done every single thing he said he was going to do.
Now we want to test his nuclear resolve.
This isn't stupid, it's suicidal.
Seriously people don't get what these kind of Russians are like. They bank on westerners being pussies.
Reality is we have no idea how many nukes the Russians have that actually work.
So it's it not a release the hounds type situation. Nuclear war will kill millions but it probably won't be planet killing types.
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Seriously people don't get what these kind of Russians are like. They bank on westerners being pussies.
Reality is we have no idea how many nukes the Russians have that actually work.
So it's it not a release the hounds type situation. Nuclear war will kill millions but it probably won't be planet killing types.
some truth in this but.. i think they have enough to cause serious problems for us in Europe, not for you Yankee boys in Ohio.
Putin is no fool , maybe he´s bluffing but remember he´s an old school KGB guy who served in the then, East Germany DDR.
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I think the US Navy is the best in the world when we talk about stealth .. The UK has lost a lot of its capabilities that they had in the "cold war"
The US Navy Subs are the best in the world no doubt about it. Putin knows this & they can launch everywhere.
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So 2 Kilotons of explosive power from 155mm artillery or a tank gun.
Which would be extremely powerful, considering Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts were about 15 and 20 kilotons.
I believe the modern guided stuff has selectable yields down to a couple of hundred - but of course that's still awful when you recall that those old-school daisy-cutters were roughly equivalent to only(!) ~10 tons
So the idea of lobbing those massive old shell nukes purely ballistically like some great big fuck-off mortar is a bit scary - imagine the potential for "Oops!" moments!!!
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I believe the modern guided stuff has selectable yields down to a couple of hundred - but of course that's still awful when you recall that those old-school daisy-cutters were roughly equivalent to only(!) ~10 tons
So the idea of lobbing those massive old shell nukes purely ballistically like some great big fuck-off mortar is a bit scary - imagine the potential for "Oops!" moments!!!
I can´t speak for the Russian Artillery but it´s much more accurate now.
I mean our Forward OP´s did an 8 Grid Map reference which was at the time very accurate for HE Rounds.
Later the AGLS came in which they now use & Lays the Guns. Incedently we back in the day had to Lay the Gun using Directors, you had to know your drills. Check Bearing, recording drills, image lost..etc
The M109 i loved a great Gun which is still in use by the US Field Artillery
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I can´t speak for the Russian Artillery but it´s much more accurate now.
I mean our Forward OP´s did an 8 Grid Map reference which was at the time very accurate for HE Rounds.
Later the AGLS came in which they now use & Lays the Guns. Incedently we back in the day had to Lay the Gun using Directors, you had to know your drills. Check Bearing, recording drills, image lost..etc
The M109 i loved a great Gun which is still in use by the US Field Artillery
Oh I absolutely recognise the skills on our side - they could place the thing through a skylight!! I was thinking more of the poor conscripted 'Soviets' being issued with a plumb line, a protractor and a wind sock ;D ;D
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Oh I absolutely recognise the skills on our side - they could place the thing through a skylight!! I was thinking more of the poor conscripted 'Soviets' being issued with a plumb line, a protractor and a wind sock ;D ;D
I´m just an old fart ranting .. but i loved the Gun. You see the the Canadians doing a "quick action" direct fire.
this could happen moving inbetween locations as a fire mission came down.
No aiming posts or derectors (which were optical sights). Prismatic compass. bearing & elevation.
whatever.. i loved the guns. :)
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Seriously people don't get what these kind of Russians are like. They bank on westerners being pussies.
Reality is we have no idea how many nukes the Russians have that actually work.
So it's it not a release the hounds type situation. Nuclear war will kill millions but it probably won't be planet killing types.
It would kill hundreds of millions within 72 minutes and up to 5 billion people within a year.
This is hard to watch but it explains what happens the second an enemy ICBM's exhaust is detected. And also concepts like "Launch on warning" and "Sole presidential authority".
These systems are built solely as deterrents they make no sense as weapons of war.
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It would kill hundreds of millions within 72 minutes and up to 5 billion people within a year. And also concepts like "Launch on warning" and "Sole presidential authority".
This is hard to watch but it explains what happens the second an enemy ICBM's exhaust is detected.
These systems are built solely as deterrents they make no sense as weapons of war.
Have you read "On the beach" by Nevil Shute..? I have a weakness for classic dystopias* - this one covers the aftermath of a global thermonuclear war. I'm going to out myself here as a gaylord, but it's one of the few books that ever brought me close to tears by the sheer senselessness of it all...
[*Irrelevant tangent warning: for years I hadn't realised that my English Teacher had primed me for this by the books and plays we worked through or he recommended: Lord of the Flies, The Death of Grass, Trillions, When the Wind Blows, Death Dolls of Lyra, Brave New World, 1984, Animal Farm, God the list goes on and on... yet he was the most optimistic madman I ever met! Great fella]
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Have you read "On the beach" by Nevil Shute..? I have a weakness for classic dystopias* - this one covers the aftermath of a global thermonuclear war. I'm going to out myself here as a gaylord, but it's one of the few books that ever brought me close to tears by the sheer senselessness of it all...
[*Irrelevant tangent warning: for years I hadn't realised that my English Teacher had primed me for this by the books and plays we worked through or he recommended: Lord of the Flies, The Death of Grass, Trillions, When the Wind Blows, Death Dolls of Lyra, Brave New World, 1984, Animal Farm, God the list goes on and on... yet he was the most optimistic madman I ever met! Great fella]
no one will win anything ..we will destroy anything & everything we think is evolution.
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Have you read "On the beach" by Nevil Shute..? I have a weakness for classic dystopias* - this one covers the aftermath of a global thermonuclear war. I'm going to out myself here as a gaylord, but it's one of the few books that ever brought me close to tears by the sheer senselessness of it all...
[*Irrelevant tangent warning: for years I hadn't realised that my English Teacher had primed me for this by the books and plays we worked through or he recommended: Lord of the Flies, The Death of Grass, Trillions, When the Wind Blows, Death Dolls of Lyra, Brave New World, 1984, Animal Farm, God the list goes on and on... yet he was the most optimistic madman I ever met! Great fella]
Quoted to go back and find these book later.
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Seriously people don't get what these kind of Russians are like. They bank on westerners being pussies.
Reality is we have no idea how many nukes the Russians have that actually work.
So it's it not a release the hounds type situation. Nuclear war will kill millions but it probably won't be planet killing types.
The same thing can be said about the US arsenal. Have you not read about all the Boeing issues? The US also has to deal with all these DEI hires complicating the matter. Why anyone would think the Russians are less capable than a DEI or transgender hire is a mystery to me.
Russia also paid their dues in WW2. The Soviet Union's total civilian and military deaths were around 24 million in WW2. Contrast that with the UK's loss of 450,700 and the US of 418,500 and you can see why WW2 and their defeat of Germany means so much more to the Russians. Germany lost about 6.6-8.8 million and Japan about 2.6-3.1 million people. China was a close second to the Soviet Union with around 20 million civilian and military deaths. Russia's death toll would have been the majority of the Soviet Union number.
Russians today value the sacrifice their forefathers made to defend their nation and territory. No way will they allow an upstart like the failing USA to take away what they fought and died for. Russia also sees the American decline and the rotting from within. I am sure their preference would be that they don't have to resort to nukes to take out a dying USA.
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I think the US Navy is the best in the world when we talk about stealth .. The UK has lost a lot of its capabilities that they had in the "cold war"
The US Navy Subs are the best in the world no doubt about it. Putin knows this & they can launch everywhere.
Yes, the US Navy could probably beat any other country's whole military.
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Yes, the US Navy could probably beat any other country's whole military.
yes..& you got Rambo ;D Actually i think it´s good that if you serve in the US Military you can get Education paid (not sure exactly but i read it somewhere)
I mean the British Army just give you a short course. After 9 years service i just got a driving course driving artics (HGV 1 , C+E) for us. i already had HGV 2 so it was a piece of piss.
Drove trucks for a while but didn´t enjoy it much. At least the US pay for an Education.
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The same thing can be said about the US arsenal. Have you not read about all the Boeing issues? The US also has to deal with all these DEI hires complicating the matter. Why anyone would think the Russians are less capable than a DEI or transgender hire is a mystery to me.
Russia also paid their dues in WW2. The Soviet Union's total civilian and military deaths were around 24 million in WW2. Contrast that with the UK's loss of 450,700 and the US of 418,500 and you can see why WW2 and their defeat of Germany means so much more to the Russians. Germany lost about 6.6-8.8 million and Japan about 2.6-3.1 million people. China was a close second to the Soviet Union with around 20 million civilian and military deaths. Russia's death toll would have been the majority of the Soviet Union number.
Russians today value the sacrifice their forefathers made to defend their nation and territory. No way will they allow an upstart like the failing USA to take away what they fought and died for. Russia also sees the American decline and the rotting from within. I am sure their preference would be that they don't have to resort to nukes to take out a dying USA.
Without the financial aid from the United States (almost $200 billion today), Russia would probably not have lasted long.
Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi invasion. Totalling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”
400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petrol products
4.5 million tons of food
https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/#:~:text=Totaling%20%2411.3%20billion%2C%20or%20%24180,common%20enemy%20%E2%80%94%20bloodthirsty%20Hitlerism.%E2%80%9D (https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/#:~:text=Totaling%20%2411.3%20billion%2C%20or%20%24180,common%20enemy%20%E2%80%94%20bloodthirsty%20Hitlerism.%E2%80%9D)
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Without the immense financial aid from the United States (almost $200 billion today), Russia would probably not have lasted long.
Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi invasion. Totalling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”
400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petrol products
4.5 million tons of food
https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/#:~:text=Totaling%20%2411.3%20billion%2C%20or%20%24180,common%20enemy%20%E2%80%94%20bloodthirsty%20Hitlerism.%E2%80%9D (https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/#:~:text=Totaling%20%2411.3%20billion%2C%20or%20%24180,common%20enemy%20%E2%80%94%20bloodthirsty%20Hitlerism.%E2%80%9D)
I think the T-34 was their main Tank, was rough & ready easy to repair not like German Tanks which were precision Engineering & also the T-34 had wide tracks which helped them in the thick mud when the snow melted.
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I think the T-34 was their main Tank, was rough & ready easy to repair not like German Tanks which were precision Engineering & also the T-34 had wide tracks which helped them in the thick mud when the snow melted.
We got hold of a T-34 during the first Gulf War - supposedly to learn from it. But when we got inside it we were staggered at how old school it was. Wooden benches with no padding for example. No padding at any of the potential bash points actually. And as for ventilation? Masks with flexi-tubes connected directly to the outside - no NCB filter, nothing... talk about no frills!
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Yes, the US Navy could probably beat any other country's whole military.
You got that right no one fucks with our carrier strike groups
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You got that right. No one fucks with our carrier strike groups.
The US Navy is awesome.
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yes..& you got Rambo ;D Actually i think it´s good that if you serve in the US Military you can get Education paid (not sure exactly but i read it somewhere)
I mean the British Army just give you a short course. After 9 years service i just got a driving course driving artics (HGV 1 , C+E) for us. i already had HGV 2 so it was a piece of piss.
Drove trucks for a while but didn´t enjoy it much. At least the US pay for an Education.
Rambo was army.
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Rambo was army.
A Green Beret :)
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We got hold of a T-34 during the first Gulf War - supposedly to learn from it. But when we got inside it we were staggered at how old school it was. Wooden benches with no padding for example. No padding at any of the potential bash points actually. And as for ventilation? Masks with flexi-tubes connected directly to the outside - no NCB filter, nothing... talk about no frills!
They were built under tremendous time pressure during the Battle of Stalingrad and I guess were never upgraded as newer models started coming out immediately?
As I remember from Anthony Beevor's book the first T-34s were produced in such a hurry they didn't even have gun sights. The gunner literally had to look down the barrel to aim the gun.
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We got hold of a T-34 during the first Gulf War - supposedly to learn from it. But when we got inside it we were staggered at how old school it was. Wooden benches with no padding for example. No padding at any of the potential bash points actually. And as for ventilation? Masks with flexi-tubes connected directly to the outside - no NCB filter, nothing... talk about no frills!
Yes very outdated Tanks for a modern battlefield & people thought the T-55 was old !
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You got that right no one fucks with our carrier strike groups
They are sitting ducks. Russia could take out the carriers with a few hypersonic missiles armed with nukes. Russia also has many subs off US coastlines.
Here's the current US Secretary of Defense. Will he outwit his Russian counterparts?
(https://www.stripes.com/incoming/9pren5-ap23326519916323.jpg/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/AP23326519916323.jpg)
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They are sitting ducks. Russia could take out the carriers with a few hypersonic missiles armed with nukes. Russia also has many subs off US coastlines.
Here's the current US Secretary of Defense. Will he outwit his Russian counterparts?
(https://www.stripes.com/incoming/9pren5-ap23326519916323.jpg/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/AP23326519916323.jpg)
The guy who went missing for a week and didn't even notify Biden?
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They are sitting ducks. Russia could take out the carriers with a few hypersonic missiles armed with nukes. Russia also has many subs off US coastlines.
Here's the current US Secretary of Defense. Will he outwit his Russian counterparts?
Wow - they must have picked him after he successfully brought in the Red October all those years ago
(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.warhistoryonline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F64%2F2022%2F12%2Fthe-hunt-for-red-october-b53c5618-37845-741x507.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2ca1c0c2bd801a8deaacbb19bf4b8549fbd5a5c683cb6b8b95b4ca8f603637e4&ipo=images)
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Wow - they must have picked him after he successfully brought in the Red October all those years ago
(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.warhistoryonline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F64%2F2022%2F12%2Fthe-hunt-for-red-october-b53c5618-37845-741x507.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2ca1c0c2bd801a8deaacbb19bf4b8549fbd5a5c683cb6b8b95b4ca8f603637e4&ipo=images)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/MvBMLoTO7JwUuXMgrh4F79WXlve2llntQOwQ94rgdOokteOdGJV_XjbmZnaBXh9LrHcVZsZrRblDsg0TU6N7xtmmFe3gqw)
He's been steadily promoted through the previous decades. I prefer his WW2 depiction in the u571 submarine movie
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XNzr2mMH/Y0jCUea7.jpg).
"Good morning everybody, today we're going to be discussing those mayo apes in Russia......"
Vince Goodrum, CSN MFT, SecDef
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XNzr2mMH/Y0jCUea7.jpg).
"Good morning everybody, today we're going to be discussing those mayo apes in Russia......"
Vince Goodrum, CSN MFT, SecDef
LMAO!
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Wow - they must have picked him after he successfully brought in the Red October all those years ago
(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.warhistoryonline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F64%2F2022%2F12%2Fthe-hunt-for-red-october-b53c5618-37845-741x507.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2ca1c0c2bd801a8deaacbb19bf4b8549fbd5a5c683cb6b8b95b4ca8f603637e4&ipo=images)
Anyone have that quote about Jews planning to elevate blacks to the upper echelons of societies? Google, Bing, Duck have all scrubbed it.
When I see this picture I am reminded of that quote and how Jews and Blacks are working together to get Whitey!
(https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/austin-blinken-zelensky.jpg?w=800?quality=90)