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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
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Me personally I would dump the anadrol and go anavar. Also Eq for me was awesome. Strength,crazy vascularity and noticeable size at 200mgs weekly and 400mgs weekly.just dump your blood due to blood thickening.
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Congrats on getting off the narcotics.
I hope a qualified expert comes through and gives you sound advice for your narcotic cycle.
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Glad your completely drug free.
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You should have stuck to a non-opioid like Tramadol
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Glad your completely drug free.
Fortress?
Joswift?
Anybody?
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Fortress?
Joswift?
Anybody?
Hahaha.
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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
This reads like Pet Shop Boys thread concerning Barbell Hip Thrusts.
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Congrats on getting clean but IMO should have traind natty for at lest 6 months before beginning a cycle.
You're gonna gain well anyway due to "muscle memory"....it`s a waste of good gear.
Don`t rely on gear use it as an aid to training once you`re back in decent shape.
Congrats just the same.....one day at a time bro!!
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Glad your completely drug free.
Your and you’re.
Look into it.
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You should have stuck to a non-opioid like Tramadol
Don’t need any painkillers. Was never really in “pain”. Just had a liberal Dr who’d write me whatever I wanted but nonetheless, never liked how tramadol made me feel. Once you’ve abused pharmacy grade oxy 80s, no other painkiller out there compares lmao
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Congrats on getting clean but IMO should have traind natty for at lest 6 months before beginning a cycle.
You're gonna gain well anyway due to "muscle memory"....it`s a waste of good gear.
Don`t rely on gear use it as an aid to training once you`re back in decent shape.
Congrats just the same.....one day at a time bro!!
Had to jump straight on because T levels were low because I’ve cycled previously. I had to pin dude. Now sex drive is coming back along with all the other benefits!
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Me personally I would dump the anadrol and go anavar. Also Eq for me was awesome. Strength,crazy vascularity and noticeable size at 200mgs weekly and 400mgs weekly.just dump your blood due to blood thickening.
I’m only using the anadrol to “kickstart” my cycle. I have anavar at home as well should I add a few tabs a day in as well in addition to the anadrol?
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Had to jump straight on because T levels were low because I’ve cycled previously. I had to pin dude. Now sex drive is coming back along with all the other benefits!
That`s cool bud..........train hard, and all the best to you.
I`ve conquered addiction problems in the past...STAY STRONG!! ;)
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I’m only using the anadrol to “kickstart” my cycle. I have anavar at home as well should I add a few tabs a day in as well in addition to the anadrol?
I`d personally do one at a time then you can tell which one works best for you.....if you take both how in the Hell will you know how you are responding to either?
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Don`t rely on gear use it as an aid to training
no.
u run everything u got til its gone…. then u probably get more.
that's how steroids work, homie
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So you’re replacing the addiction to opiates for an addiction to steroids? I like it! Quit being a bitch! Double the dose and take all the compounds at the same time and stop being a quitter and get back on the pain killers!!!
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Congrats meathead23 on getting off opioids. Some might give you crap for still using BB drugs, but 2 different worlds.
I know many ex-addicts who got off narcotics, take BB drugs, but are doing great today.
BB has saved their life. (One addiction swapped for another).
I hope you stay the course w/ sobriety.
If you are going to do BB drugs there are ways to do it "safer". Risk MGT, blood work, health supps, etc.
Hopefully you do some of that and dont be wreckless with it. Tren can f**k with peoples minds so be careful there.
Like Wes said, maybe natty or a basic "test only" would have been a good starter, but that is only friendly advice.
No one can tell you what to do. wishing the best for you..
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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
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no.
u run everything u got til its gone…. then u probably get more.
that's how steroids work, homie
As a non-trained recovering addict who will make "muscle memory" gains fairly quickly anyway........gotta disagree brother.
Get back in shape then blast.
Sure he`ll gain faster on a cycle but it`s not needed...... growing a pair for 6 months is what's needed.
Too many guys join a gym and immediately hop on a cycle which in 4 words is "just plain fucking dumb".
Just my 3 cc`s....no offense meant.
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LOL, leave it to JPJ to make me spray coffee out of my nose this AM...
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LOL, leave it to JPJ to make me spray coffee out of my nose this AM...
;D
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You should have stuck to a non-opioid like Tramadol
I use tramadol 3 times a week once at night until my nerve pain settles down from being compressed. Even I heard this is addictive hence the reason I use it only on days pain really elevates.
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Switching drugs to change your life might not be a very good option in the long run. I would cut the harsher steroids like tren and orals and just do TRT dose of test, depending how young you are. Mood and muscle wise, is more than enough. If possible quit the test if you can find decent post cycle therapy.
I don't know if that's your case, but i see many men "assuming they have and addictive personality", and therefore they have to switch addictions to get by. YOU decide if you are addicted or not, not your body. Just like you decide to get out of bed in the morning. YOU have that control.
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I use tramadol 3 times a week once at night until my nerve pain settles down from being compressed. Even I heard this is addictive hence the reason I use it only on days pain really elevates.
If you are talking about bulging disks, there are minimal invasive surgical procedures that can change your life. I have had 4 of those and live painfree, as long if i keep poundages at the gym low.
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LOL, leave it to JPJ to make me spray coffee out of my nose this AM...
Hey Gym Rat, I’m in Barcelona and they have a strict “no lame gimmick” rule here !
I’m abusing tiny Spaniards with my terrible Spanish. I will be at the Barcelona MotoGP races on Saturday and Sunday. Then off to Madrid, Lisbon, southern Spain and Morocco.
P.S. - Hankins still looks small and smooth.
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Big Wes and Justplanegay should breed!!
No offence Big Wes!! Is his cock bigger?? LOL!! Kidding brother!! When are you gonna destroy downsyndrome face Hanky??
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Big Wes and Justplanegay should breed!!
No offence Big Wes!! Is his cock bigger?? LOL!! Kidding brother!! When are you gonna destroy downsyndrome face Hanky??
Matt Canning proving once again that he is a broke small loser.
🙄
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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
Completely drug free you say? Steroids give you a sense of confidence, aggression and a feeling of well being in that it that it works like an anti depressant. When you go off you will feel depressed, nervous and meek. This will make you crave feeling "normal" again and to run another cycle. Look at you stash of syringes and look in the mirror.
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Your and you’re.
Look into it.
Darn it!
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If you are talking about bulging disks, there are minimal invasive surgical procedures that can change your life. I have had 4 of those and live painfree, as long if i keep poundages at the gym low.
Already had ACDF two levels, nerve still hasn't calmed down. Weights greatly reduced, getting more out of 12-20 reps and minimal rest.
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Steroids are drugs sure, but if you can restrict yourself to just roids you are doing well imo. Many, many others "need" to go on Methadone or Subutex. And I bet almost all opiate users who are trying to quit are put on antidepressants. Opiate users get put on Test replacement here as almost routine as opiates depress test.
It's kinda like fatties on the weight loss shots, is it better that they get the shots, and simply can't eat, or try to train their "self-discipline"? So if one drug helps to stay off the really destructive one, I don't see a problem. As far as cycles, it's probably best to not really cycle but do something you can do pretty safely longer term. IMO. I'm not a fan of "fronting" with orals, I like the idea of adding them in when stalled. When you drop the the Anadrol it's like your cycle got way weaker, an Anadrol might be as "strong" as a gram or more of test.
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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
You've traded one drug addiction for another....
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You've traded one drug addiction for another....
Your addicted to your high horse, people who are always going on about the faults of others are often blind to their own.
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Big Wes and Justplanegay should breed!!
No offence Big Wes!! Is his cock bigger?? LOL!! Kidding brother!! When are you gonna destroy downsyndrome face Hanky??
I honestly don`t think Jane could handle a man as virile as me.
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Your addicted to your high horse, people who are always going on about the faults of others are often blind to their own.
It`s OK Ro.....that guy`s a pussified scared wimp.
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I honestly don`t think Jane could handle a man as virile as me.
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Hey Gym Rat, I’m in Barcelona and they have a strict “no lame gimmick” rule here !
I’m abusing tiny Spaniards with my terrible Spanish. I will be at the Barcelona MotoGP races on Saturday and Sunday. Then off to Madrid, Lisbon, southern Spain and Morocco.
P.S. - Hankins still looks small and smooth.
Hope you're enjoying yourself.
Sounds fun..
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Your addicted to your high horse, people who are always going on about the faults of others are often blind to their own.
Gear/Juice is a personal choice for people. I always wondered why many get triggered by other folks use?
My only guess is their physique isn't up to what they once hoped, and need to bash on users to make themselves feel better.
Not saying thats OldGolds issue, its just what I noticed over time from those who attack others for using.
(Like that guy who used to run around the web "Steroidsr4losers" or something like that).
You just know he was built like a broom-stick (w/ ears).
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Gear/Juice is a personal choice for people. I always wondered why many get triggered by other folks use?
My only guess is their physique isn't up to what they once hoped, and need to bash on users to make themselves feel better.
Not saying thats OldGolds issue, its just what I noticed over time from those who attack others for using.
(Like that guy who used to run around the web "Steroidsr4losers" or something like that).
You just know he was built like a broom-stick (w/ ears).
Even the steroid haters, now that they're older, start saying "hmm that HRT maybe isn't such a bad idea." And then they say those bodybuilding doses aren't healthy, in which they are mostly right, but the crazy moral preaching has disappeared mostly, based on what I see at least.
If the older steroid haters, like oldtimer1 said something logical, like steroids make you look like shit (not everyone think a steroid enhanced body is ideal even from an aesthetics standpoint) they might have a point. But no, instead they say steroids make you look great, you should try getting off them for year. It makes no sense to me ???
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Gear/Juice is a personal choice for people. I always wondered why many get triggered by other folks use?
My only guess is their physique isn't up to what they once hoped, and need to bash on users to make themselves feel better.
Not saying thats OldGolds issue, its just what I noticed over time from those who attack others for using.
(Like that guy who used to run around the web "Steroidsr4losers" or something like that).
You just know he was built like a broom-stick (w/ ears).
I've never cared myself who has or who hasn't but I get annoyed at all the lying that goes on around it like that liver king fool saying he wasn't on anything.
Or how pros like to say that they are just genetically gifted and drugs are "Just the finishing touch"
Lets not forget the YouTube clowns that weigh 250 diced and say they are just on 200mg of test and 200cc of mast.
...And the bigger fool on this board that belives them and posts their videos!
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How high up is a high horse and do you need a ladder to mount it?
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I thought liver made the Liver King huge.
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I thought liver made the Liver King huge.
Nope..........it was 30 dessicated liver pills per day. ;)
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If you are talking about bulging disks, there are minimal invasive surgical procedures that can change your life. I have had 4 of those and live painfree, as long if i keep poundages at the gym low.
Not being a smart ass, but if you’ve had four of the surgeries, doesn’t that mean it didn’t necessarily work? I deal with sever back issues and do non narcotic and non surgical pain management. I have pain daily, but have learned to live with it I guess.
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Not being a smart ass, but if you’ve had four of the surgeries, doesn’t that mean it didn’t necessarily work? I deal with sever back issues and do non narcotic and non surgical pain management. I have pain daily, but have learned to live with it I guess.
I have 3 bulging discs and arthirits in my lower back and neck, and fuck it no ones cutting me up until after Im dead.
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I have 3 bulging discs and arthirits in my lower back and neck, and fuck it no ones cutting me up until after Im dead.
I honestly don`t think Jane could handle a man as virile as me.
Listen old man, when I get back stateside I’m calling your wife and us gals are going to have a long talk about her poor choices in life ! 🤣
I hope you wake up tomorrow with a tiny little rope free Matt Canning nub dick.
🙋♀️
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You've traded one drug addiction for another....
At least using needles won't be a problem. :-\
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Listen old man, when I get back stateside I’m calling your wife and us gals are going to have a long talk about her poor choices in life ! 🤣
I hope you wake up tomorrow with a tiny little rope free Matt Canning nub dick.
🙋♀️
:o :'(
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congrats on getting off the painkillers. Everything gets better when you decide to leave that shit behind.
anyways, as for the gear...
double the anadrol now. no sense waiting. anadrol is a lot of guys favorite oral, myself included, for good reason. beware of stomach and appetite issues. hard to put on muscle if you have no appetite or get nauseous at the thought of eating... if that's an issue try some Meclizine. find it at rite aide/CVS/Walgreens/Walmart next to Dramamine (that may help also, but can also make you tired). GHRP 2/6 can help with the appetite as well.
add the anavar now if you can afford it. (if possible, trade/sell it if you live where that's legal lol.... and get more anadrol, or dbol)
add the eq now. IME it takes a while to notice it. (if you have the option to get rid of it, do that, and use the funds to buy more test/anadrol, or trade if possible. its' kinda a waste of money to me, unless you're using a lot. ie. a gram minimum, if not 2-3 & at that dose its usually a replacement for test)
keep it simple. you'll always be better off spending money on more test.
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I have 3 bulging discs and arthirits in my lower back and neck, and fuck it no ones cutting me up until after Im dead.
Stay away if you can, those surgeries are no joke. Especially with no painkillers. Unfortunately I had herniation pressing against the nerve and severe narrowing. It was inevitable, recovery process was brutal in my 30s, can't imagine having it in my 50s or 60s.
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Stay away if you can, those surgeries are no joke. Especially with no painkillers. Unfortunately I had herniation pressing against the nerve and severe narrowing. It was inevitable, recovery process was brutal in my 30s, can't imagine having it in my 50s or 60s.
Have you had any problems since?
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I have 3 bulging discs and arthirits in my lower back and neck, and fuck it no ones cutting me up until after Im dead.
There are many minimal invasive procedures for bulging disks. I have done 4 (cervical and lumbar), with great success.
This is what was done to me:
I live pain free, just have to refrain myself from using big poundages at the gym.
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Man I have disarmed three Hebrews with knives on three different occasions..........nobod y's cutting me easy.
Ben sliced under my armpit in a fight once but it was superficial.
I`ll kick that surgeons ass if he even gets within 2 feet of me with a scalpel. LOL ;D
Seriously,I just woke up and will add a bit to this thread and my back problem situation once I wake the fuck up.............especiall y about what Falco posted.
Thanks guys,I hope you're all pain free cuz bulging discs are a true fucking bitch as I`m sure you all know.
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Hey all,
Been a while since i've posted because I was dealing with a crippling addiction to painkillers (really high amounts of oxycodone) but ive overcome that now thankfully, completely drug free (rec. drugs + never been a drinker anyways). Opiates was ALWAYS my issue. Clean now and back to rebuilding life. My first workout back was last week 15th May.
Cycle is as follows:
-2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. Each injection is 1ml sus + 1ml tren ace.
-1 anadrol 50 per day. Generally taken before training. Using pink capsule British Dragon anadrol 50.
Started last week Wednesday. Weighed myself after tonight's workout. I'm up around 5-6kg. I know majority is going to be water weight. Weighed in at 92kg. When im 100% clean and dedicated to nothing but training, i sit around 99kg lean. Hoping to get back to that. I know itll come quick due to muscle memory etc. Lowest i got to in the peak of my addiction was around 81 82kg.
Questions:
1.Was thinking after 2 weeks to increase to 2 anadrol 50 per day. Should I or should I just leave it at 1.
2.I have anavar. Should i throw this in the mix if i start to bloat too much?
3.I have EQ. Should I add this in at some point or no..? And if i do add it, what, if anything results wise can I expect off of 2ml a week of EQ.
Thanks all,
Meathead23.
As others have stated the healthier way to do this is to get on long term Hormone Replacement therapy. They will set you up with test and an anti-estrogen and monitor your levels. They can even help you with things like Growth Hormone and protein peptides. You do not need to be taking Tren and Anadrol and a bunch of underground gear. Just get on long term therapy no need to have your levels spiking up and down.
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You should have stuck to a non-opioid like Tramadol
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Tramadol is a pretty strong opiate
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Have you had any problems since?
Still in pain, waiting for nerve to heal from being compressed. Back training which helps mentally. Neck seems more stable and straightened. I've probably lost about 10% motion up and down.
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Anybody do hanging from a chinning bar as therapy?
Not hanging by the neck of course.
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Anybody do hanging from a chinning bar as therapy?
Not hanging by the neck of course.
I've done that before. Really stretches the spine and loosens the shoulders.
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Anybody do hanging from a chinning bar as therapy?
Not hanging by the neck of course.
I also hang upside down with a pair of hanging boots.
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Tramadol is a pretty strong opiate
Everyone in the world knows that apart from Brian, he insists it isnt an opioid even though he cant find a single scientific source to add weight to his opinion.
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Everyone in the world knows that apart from Brian, he insists it isnt an opioid even though he cant find a single scientific source to add weight to his opinion.
It is not an opiate. I actually did provide some links and research showing that it was just reclassified as an opiate just a few years ago by the FDA. It was never considered one prior but everyone just ignored it.
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It is not an opiate. I actually did provide some links and research showing that it was just reclassified as an opiate just a few years ago by the FDA. It was never considered one prior but everyone just ignored it.
No you didnt, there isnt a single source worldwide that will state Tramadol is not an opiate
Stop gaslighting you lying kunt
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Anybody do hanging from a chinning bar as therapy?
Not hanging by the neck of course.
Yes hang every day 3-4 times 30secs.
Training days I do dead hangs inbetween every 2-3 exervises.
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No you didnt, there isnt a single source worldwide that will state Tramadol is not an opiate
Stop gaslighting you lying kunt
Why do you insist on arguing? You could easily have done the research any of you could have but instead you all just keep posting current links where it is classified as an opiate no shit it was reclassified in 2014. From 1995-2014 Tramadol was on the market in the US and not classified as an opiate. They reclassified it because it was being abused similar to opiates and they had the legal framework and structure for that. However, that doesn't change the fact that structurally it is not a fucking opiate it does not work on the opiate receptor. They have misclassified it. Articles now will say it is similar to other opiates but different from all other opiates in such and such ways. The reason it is different than all other opiates is because it isn't a fucking opiate. No one ever claimed it was prior to 2014
Did we not know what an opiate was in 1995? Why did it take 19 years to figure out it was an opiate? Because it is not a opiate
B
https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/Tramadol-a-New-Classification-as-a-Controlled-Substance
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Why do you insist on arguing? You could easily have done the research any of you could have but instead you all just keep posting current links where it is classified as an opiate no shit it was reclassified in 2014. From 1995-2014 Tramadol was on the market in the US and not classified as an opiate. They reclassified it because it was being abused similar to opiates and they had the legal framework and structure for that. However, that doesn't change the fact that structurally it is not a fucking opiate it does not work on the opiate receptor. They have misclassified it. Articles now will say it is similar to other opiates but different from all other opiates in such and such ways. The reason it is different than all other opiates is because it isn't a fucking opiate. No one ever claimed it was prior to 2014
Did we not know what an opiate was in 1995? Why did it take 19 years to figure out it was an opiate? Because it is not a opiate
B
https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/Tramadol-a-New-Classification-as-a-Controlled-Substance
From your link
"Because Tramadol has opioid properties"
"in 2010 it was re-classified as a controlled substance"
Its always been an opioid it just wasnt classifeid as a controlled substance
Tell me when they legalised Cannabis did it cease to be a cannaboid?
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From your link
"Because Tramadol has opioid properties"
"in 2010 it was re-classified as a controlled substance"
Its always been an opioid it just wasnt classifeid as a controlled substance
Tell me when they legalised Cannabis did it cease to be a cannaboid?
It was not classified as an opioid all opioids are controlled substances even back in 1995. It somehow magically became an opioid in 2014 almost 20 years after not being an opioid. They already had the legal framework for opioids. Once they realized it was an addictive drug of abuse it was easy just to classify it as an opioid for enforcement and regulation purposes. Opioid properties is not an opioid. Chemically structurally it is simply not an opioid it does not act on the opioid receptor I am sorry you don't get that.
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Tramadol... does not work on the opiate receptor.
'Similar to other opioids, tramadol selectively binds to various opiate receptors in the central nervous system due to its opioid nature.'
'The drug has off-label uses for premature ejaculation'
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537060/
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'Similar to other opioids, tramadol selectively binds to various opiate receptors in the central nervous system due to its opioid nature.'
'The drug has off-label uses for premature ejaculation'
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537060/
If you slapped the stupid kunt around the face with a fact he would swear it wasnt one.
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As a non-trained recovering addict who will make "muscle memory" gains fairly quickly anyway........gotta disagree brother.
lol… my post was more about the way I use gear ;D
on a serious note, tho… I will not take any commercially prepared injection of any kind.. ever again - If I can help it.
I recommend the same to any human being reading this post.
avoid pharmaceuticals altogether, if possible.
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If you slapped the stupid kunt around the face with a fact he would swear it wasnt one.
he has no problem speaking falsehoods and no ability to admit when he’s wrong… bhank is a very prideful man.
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If you switch from an "actual" opioid to Tramadol it's possible to do so with zero withdrawal effects. Converesly, if you are addicted to Tram you can escape all withdrawal by switching to another opioid. This only means one thing.
Like I've said, ESFitness went to heroin when his Tram dried up. Tram addiction is really nasty, I can tell since if I use Tram for several days I then have several days of extreme anxiety, insomnia etc. Tram is really wonderful mentally if you're depressed or anxious, amazing mood boost from the first pill if heavy enough. At least for me. The serotonergic and adregenic effects are behind some of it I believe.