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Title: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Wiggs on May 21, 2024, 12:12:45 PM
I'm a big Vince Gironda guy. He was a genius but an asshole.
Anyway, the sissy squats is what I've added because at almost 45, I'm keeping as much stress off joints and ligaments but maximizing through isometrics, negatives, superset, giant sets etc...

Anyway, the sissy squat is just a filthy exercise for your quads. You will experience growth if done correctly and consistently. This is my favorite quad exercise.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on May 21, 2024, 12:44:23 PM
I've done the standard sissy squats in the past and got good results. Are you using the Gironda version? If so, are the results any different than the standard sissy squat?
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 21, 2024, 01:05:07 PM
I refuse to do any exercise named after a sissy. 
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: beakdoctor on May 21, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
I don't do sissy squats. The angle actually seems to be hell on the knee. Maybe I am doing them wrong.

I do front squats and hack squats. Adopted from a Jeff King routine. My quads are growing and Im in my 50's.  But if I stall out, I might try sissy squats again.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: MajorDomo on May 21, 2024, 01:37:08 PM
I've done them to the point they got easy- so you have to add weight to increase the effort and that is kinda cumbersome (holding plate to your chest)

 Same effect with a hack squat or leg press machine if you chose the right foot placement



Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Skeletor on May 21, 2024, 01:39:32 PM
I don't do sissy squats. The angle actually seems to be hell on the knee. Maybe I am doing them wrong.

I do front squats and hack squats. Adopted from a Jeff King routine. My quads are growing and Im in my 50's.  But if I stall out, I might try sissy squats again.

I've always found front squats to be easier on the knees and back and they work great for quads.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: MajorDomo on May 21, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
I refuse to do any exercise named after a sissy.

They weren't originally. The movement was popularized by a body builder named Monty Wolford and was called the Wolford Squat. According to Wolford's son the name sissy came about because a guy was mocking out Monty for doing such a "sissy" workout and when challenged to do it he quickly got fried and could barely walk.

I've read so much bullshit about the name - some tards say it is short for 'Sisyphus' and that is pure bs.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 21, 2024, 01:59:16 PM
I'm a big Vince Gironda guy. He was a genius but an asshole.
Anyway, the sissy squats is what I've added because at almost 45, I'm keeping as much stress off joints and ligaments but maximizing through isometrics, negatives, superset, giant sets etc...

Anyway, the sissy squat is just a filthy exercise for your quads. You will experience growth if done correctly and consistently. This is my favorite quad exercise.

What type of sissy squat do you do?

Do you use a sissy squat bench?
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 21, 2024, 03:46:34 PM
They weren't originally. The movement was popularized by a body builder named Monty Wolford and was called the Wolford Squat. According to Wolford's son the name sissy came about because a guy was mocking out Monty for doing such a "sissy" workout and when challenged to do it he quickly got fried and could barely walk.

I've read so much bullshit about the name - some tards say it is short for 'Sisyphus' and that is pure bs.

Followed Wolford's son on twitter for a few years - strong as shit, weird dude.

Unfollowed him due to being a flaming liberal and posting political shit.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 21, 2024, 04:32:30 PM
Old time hack squat...

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8a/db/29/8adb295015004a91cd9738ad7f061a3e--the-hack-barbell-exercises.jpg)

Knees over toes guy...




Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Henda on May 21, 2024, 04:53:43 PM
One of the few ways to train the rec fem leg extensions being the other so I just do them instead
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 21, 2024, 06:12:55 PM
Old time hack squat...

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8a/db/29/8adb295015004a91cd9738ad7f061a3e--the-hack-barbell-exercises.jpg)

Knees over toes guy...





Good stuff. Taught me something.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 21, 2024, 06:33:31 PM
I’m unfamiliar with this exercise. Please post an illustration like Hulkatron has in his avatar.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: SouJerz on May 21, 2024, 06:42:56 PM
Dear god progressive overload is what you need.  Not sissy squats.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: wes on May 21, 2024, 07:59:44 PM
They weren't originally. The movement was popularized by a body builder named Monty Wolford and was called the Wolford Squat. According to Wolford's son the name sissy came about because a guy was mocking out Monty for doing such a "sissy" workout and when challenged to do it he quickly got fried and could barely walk.

I've read so much bullshit about the name - some tards say it is short for 'Sisyphus' and that is pure bs.
I have always heard it was called a "sissy squat" because after doing them it made a sissy out of the strongest squatters.

Who knows ???
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 22, 2024, 01:12:04 AM
Dear god progressive overload is what you need.  Not sissy squats.
No, sissy squats are a very underrated exercise.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Gym Rat on May 22, 2024, 01:31:29 AM
I'll do them for my last exercise on leg day.
I bought one of the things they sell to do them on.
Cooks the quads.

Squats (A variation)
Belt-Squats
Leg Curl
Leg Ext
Calf Raise
Sissy SQ or Bulgarian Split SQ (Either one, a great finisher)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61efAymZ37L._AC_SX679_.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: falco on May 22, 2024, 02:08:14 AM
I'll do them for my last exercise on leg day.
I bought one of the things they sell to do them on.
Cooks the quads.

Squats (A variation)
Belt-Squats
Leg Curl
Leg Ext
Calf Raise
Sissy SQ or Bulgarian Split SQ (Either one, a great finisher)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61efAymZ37L._AC_SX679_.jpg)

Those chairs are knee busters, once people lean back for added stress. I agree in using them last, without weights, and bending slightly forward.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: SweetDaddySiki on May 22, 2024, 06:22:26 AM
I used to do them years ago when I followed the routines in the Bob Paris books. They seemed to help my lower quads and outer sweep. The Gironda way of doing them is different. It's kinda like a sissy squat; when you go down as far as you can, you then turn it into a front squat and go down in a front squat and then back up in a front squat. Hard to explain and hard for me to do. Gironda called the transition to a front squat a "Burlesque Dancer's Bounce" or something. But I truly believe you'd get the same results from doing leg extensions than sissy's. I know I did. Extensions are vastly underrated.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: robcguns on May 22, 2024, 06:33:50 AM
I think sissy squats feel amazing, I don’t do them often but once in a while and the burn is crazy.

But apparently I’m a bitch so what the fuck do I know.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Tapeworm on May 22, 2024, 06:52:07 AM
Doesn't seem it keeps strain off the knee at all. But my legs are shit so wtf do I know.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 22, 2024, 07:05:40 AM
I'll do them for my last exercise on leg day.
I bought one of the things they sell to do them on.
Cooks the quads.

Squats (A variation)
Belt-Squats
Leg Curl
Leg Ext
Calf Raise
Sissy SQ or Bulgarian Split SQ (Either one, a great finisher)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61efAymZ37L._AC_SX679_.jpg)

Be very careful using those things.  It can rupture your patella tendon if you get into the wrong position like leaning back to increase leverage.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 22, 2024, 07:08:12 AM
I do not do them.

So stop trying to pressure me.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 22, 2024, 07:14:28 AM
I think sissy squats feel amazing, I don’t do them often but once in a while and the burn is crazy.

But apparently I’m a bitch so what the fuck do I know.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fw1DXJjuCNcbg4%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=572b6fe51057af6a3eeb37e07cc0cddea205bd8da9385b94e6a20142552d8690&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: MajorDomo on May 22, 2024, 09:57:39 AM
I'll do them for my last exercise on leg day.
I bought one of the things they sell to do them on.
Cooks the quads.



(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61efAymZ37L._AC_SX679_.jpg)

I had that same piece of equipment. After a while I got joint pains. Ended up giving it away through Craigslist because nobody would buy it lol
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Wiggs on May 22, 2024, 10:22:06 AM
I just finished 8 sets of 15. (3 part movement) My vastus medialis and lateralis are on fire. I followed up with  3 sets of walking lunges and then 5 min. of jumping rope.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Gym Rat on May 22, 2024, 11:53:09 AM
I wrap a skinny band around the power-rack upright, and hold on.
I feel no stress in my knee's at all. Just focus on quad isolation. I see no danger in these (the way Im doing them at least)..
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Wiggs on May 22, 2024, 01:00:44 PM
I wrap a skinny band around the power-rack upright, and hold on.
I feel no stress in my knee's at all. Just focus on quad isolation. I see no danger in these (the way Im doing them at least)..

Yeah, I'm gonna buy a band for this. I like that too.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 22, 2024, 01:23:04 PM
I wrap a skinny band around the power-rack upright, and hold on.
I feel no stress in my knee's at all. Just focus on quad isolation. I see no danger in these (the way Im doing them at least)..

This is becoming an epidemic.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 22, 2024, 02:32:50 PM
This is becoming an epidemic.


Look into it.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 22, 2024, 11:56:57 PM
I used to do them years ago when I followed the routines in the Bob Paris books. They seemed to help my lower quads and outer sweep. The Gironda way of doing them is different. It's kinda like a sissy squat; when you go down as far as you can, you then turn it into a front squat and go down in a front squat and then back up in a front squat. Hard to explain and hard for me to do. Gironda called the transition to a front squat a "Burlesque Dancer's Bounce" or something. But I truly believe you'd get the same results from doing leg extensions than sissy's. I know I did. Extensions are vastly underrated.
Extensions are underrated because so many claimed they were worthless years ago. Studies have shown they are actually a very good exercise.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2024, 01:44:00 AM
Extensions are underrated because so many claimed they were worthless years ago. Studies have shown they are actually a very good exercise.

Agree...nothing wrong with extensions. Gironda´s variation is weird.



Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 23, 2024, 04:13:17 AM
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2024, 04:45:08 AM

They definitely work the Quads very hard but i honestly think leg extensions are better for your average person.
Indeed Gironda also promoted a so called power leg extension leaning back on the raising of the weight. Why?
He wanted to hit the sartorius muscle.

Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 25, 2024, 06:50:57 AM
Do them if you want, whatever,  it’s up to you. They’re nothing amazing or life changing. Just don’t think that you’re gonna spend months on end doing them and your legs will rival Tom Platz’s legs and people will be stopping you mid workout to ask leg training advice. Yeah maybe your legs will look a bit better than they used to. But they’re not the greatest thing since slice bread let’s relax a minute. Christ.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2024, 07:26:10 AM
Do them if you want, whatever,  it’s up to you. They’re nothing amazing or life changing. Just don’t think that you’re gonna spend months on end doing them and your legs will rival Tom Platz’s legs and people will be stopping you mid workout to ask leg training advice. Yeah maybe your legs will look a bit better than they used to. But they’re not the greatest thing since slice bread let’s relax a minute. Christ.
exactly
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 25, 2024, 08:09:29 AM



I’m going to the gym shortly and will try these. This video is different than the one I just watched. The other method which is what I will try, the guy put blocks under his heels and leaned back to the point his body was 90 degrees to his shins and then back up. Sort of like a fixed leg extension or something. Either way, thanks Wiggs for bringing this to the board.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 25, 2024, 08:11:05 AM

I’m going to the gym shortly and will try these. This video is different than the one I just watched. The other method which is what I will try, the guy put blocks under his heels and leaned back to the point his body was 90 degrees to his shins and then back up. Sort of like a fixed leg extension or something. Either way, thanks Wiggs for bringing this to the board.

Report back on it.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 25, 2024, 01:14:31 PM
Report back on it.


Did it as my second exercise. Squats first, then the sissy squats. It’s crazy because the first 3-5 reps of each of the four sets of sissy squats I did were easy, then the burnout quickly happened. I’ll be implementing these in my routine from here on out.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Griffith on May 25, 2024, 09:27:48 PM
I don't do sissy squats. The angle actually seems to be hell on the knee. Maybe I am doing them wrong.

I do front squats and hack squats. Adopted from a Jeff King routine. My quads are growing and Im in my 50's.  But if I stall out, I might try sissy squats again.

Causes huge amount of stress on the cartilage under the kneecap, similar to leg extensions. 

All the force is directly going on a small area of cartilage.

With squats or leg press, the weight is at least distributed across other parts of the body.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 26, 2024, 03:18:22 AM
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 27, 2024, 12:18:41 AM
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Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: wes on May 27, 2024, 12:48:22 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna buy a band for this. I like that too.
You can also just use a towel for balance issues instead of a band......either way,great fix for any lack of balance problems.

Milton my man,you`ve get me thinking about throwing these bad boys back in on leg day......it`s been eons since I`ve done them.....I`ll probably use one or two sets as a finisher/widowmaker/final blowout pump type of thing......thanks!!  ;)
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 27, 2024, 08:21:48 AM
Can KneesOverToesGuy just go away FOREVER? Enough of him. If he’s so amazing, why is he not the leading trainer for all pro players in the NFL or NHL? He preaches insane advice that can easily destroy your knees if you don’t know what you’re doing. He’s a typical influencer. Get him out of here. Just go away. Far away!
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 27, 2024, 11:31:29 AM
Can KneesOverToesGuy just go away FOREVER? Enough of him. If he’s so amazing, why is he not the leading trainer for all pro players in the NFL or NHL? He preaches insane advice that can easily destroy your knees if you don’t know what you’re doing. He’s a typical influencer. Get him out of here. Just go away. Far away!

That said, I did actually built a slant board on his suggestion and have found it beneficial for warmup squats, calf stretches and the like.

However, I refuse to succumb to the peer pressure like other weak minded gettbiggers have and staunchly refuse to add "sissy squats"  ::) to my repertoire
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: IroNat on May 27, 2024, 01:28:27 PM
Can KneesOverToesGuy just go away FOREVER? Enough of him. If he’s so amazing, why is he not the leading trainer for all pro players in the NFL or NHL? He preaches insane advice that can easily destroy your knees if you don’t know what you’re doing. He’s a typical influencer. Get him out of here. Just go away. Far away!

Hater!
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2024, 06:15:33 AM
That said, I did actually built a slant board on his suggestion and have found it beneficial for warmup squats, calf stretches and the like.

However, I refuse to succumb to the peer pressure like other weak minded gettbiggers have and staunchly refuse to add "sissy squats"  ::) to my repertoire
The question is will Sissy squats give you other development than say leg extensions or even "Gironda power extensions" ?

Sissy squats are from a leverage point of view very efficient but would the muscles be trained better than using the above examples?

https://www.whowasvincegironda.com/sissy-squat.html



Basically Gironda wanted to target the Sartorious which i believe will be worked in a leaning back leg extension





Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 28, 2024, 06:31:55 AM
The question is will Sissy squats give you other development than say leg extensions or even "Gironda power extensions" ?

Sissy squats are from a leverage point of view very efficient but would the muscles be trained better than using the above examples?

https://www.whowasvincegironda.com/sissy-squat.html



Basically Gironda wanted to target the Sartorious which i believe will be worked in a leaning back leg extension

I might change training if I wanted size.

But right now none of that fits in with my goals.
Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2024, 06:39:55 AM
I might change training if I wanted size.

But right now none of that fits in with my goals.
each to their own, i was just making a comparison between the two exercises. :)


Title: Re: Do you include sissy squats in your routine?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 28, 2024, 07:03:29 AM
each to their own, i was just making a comparison between the two exercises. :)

All good.