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Title: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 02, 2024, 05:34:14 AM
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: 20inch calves on June 02, 2024, 05:47:53 AM
He's done. He's made his money.  Its time to move on.I never have been impressed with him..he punches hard but that's all he has
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: wes on June 02, 2024, 06:15:44 AM
He always sucked and still does.

Padded Record Of Peace
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 02, 2024, 06:28:42 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: wes on June 02, 2024, 06:36:28 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X
Was his "belly" full or empty?   :D
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: 38 returns on June 02, 2024, 06:55:47 AM
Wilder gas better legs than wiggy
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: BigRo on June 02, 2024, 07:15:12 AM
I felt Zhang should have waited for Wilder to turn around and have the chance to defend himself against the final blow, something about knocking a guy out who is just turning his face around that doesn't seem noble.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: BigRo on June 02, 2024, 07:16:32 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X

Furys weight advantage did not help him. Something Wilder and Bhanks have in common is they don't train legs.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 02, 2024, 07:17:52 AM
I felt Zhang should have waited for Wilder to turn around and have the chance to defend himself against the final blow, something about knocking a guy out who is just turning his face around that doesn't seem noble.

Protect yourself at all times?
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: BigRo on June 02, 2024, 07:23:42 AM
Protect yourself at all times?

It was legal, it just wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Dave D on June 02, 2024, 07:44:31 AM
I felt Zhang should have waited for Wilder to turn around and have the chance to defend himself against the final blow, something about knocking a guy out who is just turning his face around that doesn't seem noble.
I’ve screenshotted this and sent a translated transcript to Zhang. Depending on how his Asian ancestry is broken down you can expect Zhang to select one of three options: disembowel himself, send you a pinky in the mail or he may just focus on creating more diseases in a lab in Wahuan.

Different Asian cultures have contrasting views on what it means being dishonorable, so your words may hold some very serious consequences.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: GymnJuice on June 02, 2024, 08:24:29 AM
Protect yourself at all times?

Yes. He looked like he was trying to complain to the ref about something instead of defending himself. That's on him.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: G_Thang on June 02, 2024, 09:05:29 AM
Yes. He looked like he was trying to complain to the ref about something instead of defending himself. That's on him.

Happens in the heavyweight division.  Martin was checking the ringside screen to see what happened.

https://youtu.be/kwn-WbCe5KI?t=317 (https://youtu.be/kwn-WbCe5KI?t=317)
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: a_pupil on June 02, 2024, 09:22:55 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X

Hankins is in the 220s!

And he'd handle Wilder quicker than the big chinese guy because of his wrestling background.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: dj181 on June 02, 2024, 09:25:09 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X

Back in the 70s all the greats weighed around 210-225
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 02, 2024, 09:40:13 AM
Hankins is in the 220s!

And he'd handle Wilder quicker than the big chinese guy because of his wrestling background.

Brian weighing in at his SCN event
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Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Hulkotron on June 02, 2024, 10:04:14 AM
bhanks outweighs him on a full belly.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: keanu on June 02, 2024, 10:07:39 AM
Zhang is 41 years old and fights like the chinese George Foreman at this point. He comes in heavy and he is slow. His timing however is pretty good. He caught Wilder with a grazing left hook Wilder didn't see which spun him around. Wilder was out on his feet and took the second hook dropping like a stone. No idea why Wilder came in so lean. He didn't use speed or angles.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 02, 2024, 10:13:51 AM
Zhang is 41 years old and fights like the chinese George Foreman at this point. He comes in heavy and he is slow. His timing however is pretty good. He caught Wilder with a grazing left hook Wilder didn't see which spun him around. Wilder was out on his feet and took the second hook dropping like a stone. No idea why Wilder came in so lean. He didn't use speed or angles.
we watched the video thanks....
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 02, 2024, 11:09:44 AM
I think he was complaining about being thumbed in the eye. Should have kept his hands up.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: keanu on June 02, 2024, 11:23:36 AM
we watched the video thanks....
  People seemed confused about why he was spun around so not everyone watched it....
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: chaos on June 02, 2024, 11:29:27 AM
68lbs weight advantage! Wilder was just 214lbs BHANKS weight class :-X
What was the thought process here? Why would he come in so light?
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 02, 2024, 11:34:25 AM
What was the thought process here? Why would he come in so light?
Drug free?

Realised he was at the end of his career
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: beakdoctor on June 02, 2024, 11:38:10 AM
Zhang is 41 years old and fights like the chinese George Foreman at this point. He comes in heavy and he is slow. His timing however is pretty good. He caught Wilder with a grazing left hook Wilder didn't see which spun him around. Wilder was out on his feet and took the second hook dropping like a stone. No idea why Wilder came in so lean. He didn't use speed or angles.

I agree with this. Except,  looking from a different angle, it wasn't a glancing blow. He hit Wilder pretty flush, not full force but Wilder was coming in and it was a bit more than a glancing blow. It spun Wilder, who was clearly stunned. I don't think he was complaining to the ref. I think he was disoriented and didn't realize he was spun completely around. I think he was wondering wtf happened when Zhang knocked him out.

Also, I think Wilder is as mentally fucked as anything.  I think he never really knew what the fuck he was doing but his confidence and his right hand took him far. Now he's lost his confidence,  he's a multi millionaire,  and he just doesn't want it anymore. Regardless what you think of him he's a guy who made 10 defenses of the heavyweight title. He's not hungry anymore even if he still had his little bit of skill left.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 02, 2024, 11:46:10 AM
I agree with this. Except,  looking from a different angle, it wasn't a glancing blow. He hit Wilder pretty flush, not full force but Wilder was coming in and it was a bit more than a glancing blow. It spun Wilder, who was clearly stunned. I don't think he was complaining to the ref. I think he was disoriented and didn't realize he was spun completely around. I think he was wondering wtf happened when Zhang knocked him out.

Also, I think Wilder is as mentally fucked as anything.  I think he never really knew what the fuck he was doing but his confidence and his right hand took him far. Now he's lost his confidence,  he's a multi millionaire,  and he just doesn't want it anymore. Regardless what you think of him he's a guy who made 10 defenses of the heavyweight title. He's not hungry anymore even if he still had his little bit of skill left.

Ah, that explains the weight loss....
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Kwon on June 02, 2024, 12:43:08 PM
I felt Zhang should have waited for Wilder to turn around and have the chance to defend himself against the final blow, something about knocking a guy out who is just turning his face around that doesn't seem noble.

Zhang is 41 years old and fights like the chinese George Foreman at this point. He comes in heavy and he is slow. His timing however is pretty good. He caught Wilder with a grazing left hook Wilder didn't see which spun him around. Wilder was out on his feet and took the second hook dropping like a stone. No idea why Wilder came in so lean. He didn't use speed or angles.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: falco on June 03, 2024, 02:22:38 AM
China is taking over on all fronts.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 05, 2024, 11:15:16 PM
You know your career is over when you are knocked out by an overweight 41 year old Chinese guy.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 06, 2024, 12:00:48 AM
Back in the 70s all the greats weighed around 210-225
The Golden Age of boxing.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: pamith on June 06, 2024, 11:59:17 AM
My nikka
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: obsidian on June 06, 2024, 12:12:07 PM

Damn that was a sneaky last jab! Wilder was a very entertaining boxer to watch. Always gave it everything.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: dj181 on June 06, 2024, 02:33:40 PM
The Golden Age of boxing.

Yep

Ali, foreman, Norton, Frazier (I think he was vastly overrated though all he basically had was his left hook), shavers (Ali said he was the hardest hitter even more than foreman)

One of my uncles loved Larry Holmes but I never liked him cause his physique sucked ass 😂 but his jab was something special fo sho and yeah he was an 80s guy and he was the king of the 80s until Tyson appeared
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Dave D on June 06, 2024, 07:23:23 PM
Yep

Ali, foreman, Norton, Frazier (I think he was vastly overrated though all he basically had was his left hook), shavers (Ali said he was the hardest hitter even more than foreman)

One of my uncles loved Larry Holmes but I never liked him cause his physique sucked ass 😂 but his jab was something special fo sho and yeah he was an 80s guy and he was the king of the 80s until Tyson appeared

Holmes never respected Tyson. It’s pretty funny looking back on old interviews.

Also Joswift landed some haymakers in this thread.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 07, 2024, 12:35:28 AM
Yep

Ali, foreman, Norton, Frazier (I think he was vastly overrated though all he basically had was his left hook), shavers (Ali said he was the hardest hitter even more than foreman)

One of my uncles loved Larry Holmes but I never liked him cause his physique sucked ass 😂 but his jab was something special fo sho and yeah he was an 80s guy and he was the king of the 80s until Tyson appeared
Shavers is considered the best heavyweight to never hold the title.
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: G_Thang on June 07, 2024, 01:05:04 AM
You know your career is over when you are knocked out by an overweight 41 year old Chinese guy.

The heavyweight division is not about high-level tactics except a few.  He has excellent timing and his right hook is sneaky and unseen. Plus he is late into the pros, a good amateur, and low wear and tear like the Eastern Euros and Cubans who turn pro late. His Achilles heel is stamina.  Get him on the other side of the 6th round.  That's why AJ will knock him out if the Saudis make the after he takes care of DDD in the UK.



Parker is fidgety and mobile like a cruiserweight so Zhang could never set him up. 
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2024, 06:59:17 AM
Shavers is considered the best heavyweight to never hold the title.

And he only weighed bout 210  at 6 foot
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: joswift on June 07, 2024, 07:06:16 AM
And he only weighed bout 210  at 6 foot
full belly or in the am?
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2024, 08:24:43 AM
full belly or in the am?

 ;D
Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: dj181 on June 07, 2024, 12:51:10 PM
Dokes had phenomenal hand speed forget that he was a heavyweight

His hand speed is phenomenal even for a bantamweight, incredibly impressive 8)

Title: Re: Wilder KOd
Post by: Bevo on June 08, 2024, 01:01:33 AM
Wilder still has bigger legs than Bhanky

But Bhanky weighs 220+ pounds, by default he out weighs Wilder and should be able to rag doll him with ease