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Very interesting interview with the Serbian President.
The main issue is the US and NATO say that Russia cannot and must not prevail in Ukraine. So they are willing to do whatever it takes. On the other side you have Russia seeing the Ukraine conflict as an existential threat. From their point they cannot and must not lose either - whatever it takes. My opinion is the conflict in Ukraine is more important to Russia because their existence is threatened. But if Russia wins, it would also have far-reaching implications for the US Empire, and could hasten its demise. So perhaps it is an existential battle for the US Empire also?
The Serbian president's dire warning about WW3 as we reach the point of no return: "The train has left the station, and no one can stop it".
- NATO uses its weapons, intelligence & targeting to attack inside Russia.
- Russia must retaliate against NATO to restore its deterrence.
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1802742011436597317
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Putin and other leaders know that the goal is to breakup Russia. It always has. Russia has vast borders and resources - more than any other nation on Earth. The greedy Globalist Deep State can't have that. They want those resources.
And now some of their puppets are vocally saying out in the open what they want to do.
The goal is to breakup Russia. Once that is done, flood them with Africans, promote homosexuality, transgenderism, weaken the society. The same play that has already occurred in the West. Russia should send a few Tsar Bombas up their worthless asses.
NATO state’s PM calls for breakup of Russia
It is not a bad thing when a big power becomes much smaller, Estonia’s Kaja Kallas has said
The conflict between Moscow and Kiev should end with the defeat and breakup of the Russian Federation, Estonia’s Prime Minister Kaja Kallas has proposed.
Kallas made the suggestion on Saturday during a debate in the country’s capital, Tallinn, at an annual event dedicated to her country's first post-soviet president.
"Russia’s defeat is not a bad thing because then you know there could really be a change in society,” the prime minister told the 17th Lennart Meri Conference.
The Russian Federation is comprised of “many different nations” and suggested that they should become separate states after the end of the conflict between Moscow and Kiev, she argued.
"I think if you would have more like small nations... it is not a bad thing if the big power is actually [made] much smaller,” Kallas said.
The Constitution of the Russian Federation describes the polity as a multinational state. According to the 2020-2021 census, the country’s population speaks 155 different languages, with Russian being the most common.
Estonia’s Prime Minister also urged Ukraine’s Western backers not to be afraid to do more to assist the government in Kiev in its fight with Moscow.
"Fear keeps us from supporting Ukraine. Countries have different fears, be it nuclear fear, fear of escalation, fear of migration. We must not fall into the trap of fear because that is what [Russia’s President Vladimir] Putin wants,” she said.
According to Kallas, the West must help Kiev “push Russia back to its borders” and continue to pressure Moscow via sanctions until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored. She also called for reparations to be paid and for the country’s leadership to be held accountable for the conflict.
The prime minister insisted that in order for stable peace to be achieved in Europe, Ukraine has to be made a member of both the EU and NATO.
In February, Russia issued an arrest warrant for Kallas over her campaign to destroy Soviet WWII memorials across Estonia.
The authorities in Moscow have said repeatedly that due to the unwillingness of both Kiev and the West to look for a diplomatic solution to the crisis, Russia will continue its military operation until all of its goals are achieved, including assuring the security of the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, the demilitarization and “denazification” of the country, and making sure that it never becomes a NATO member.
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This female Kallas is a fucking moron. Good luck with that. Also, suddenly diversity is bad?! They don't like that Russia is very diverse?! See how that works. These scum need to be exterminated.
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Well, he’d know. His country started the first one.
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Putin and Russia need to win to defend the rights of peace loving people everywhere and for that to happen Trump needs to win this November and take to his own country and the left leaning establishment cesspool that wants to takeover the world, with the US out of the way, Putin can then finish his mission in Ukraine and hopefully peace can prevail, if they disqualify him or unelect him through some other prejudice, we are well on our way to a Third World War, as Putin rightfully will not take further contempt from NATO and eventually things will escalate.
All a Trump presidency will do is buy us sometime with comments like what the Estonian freely said, post Trump issues will return as there are plenty of war mongering republicans as well as democrats.
Im not pro Trump, or pro Putin, I just want the peace and freedom the world has enjoyed since world war 2 to continue, unfortunately my gut feeling is that it won't.
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I am Serbian.
He is a liar ,a fraud, and a traitor . He is actively signing over a piece of our territory to Albania. The Gay Parades were established in Serbia because of him. He put a lesbian as Prime Minister. The west put him in power to do their bidding. He does work for the Russians only partly,because he keeps his stolen money there .
He is a weakling and a bad actor. Sadly,the Serbians of today are stupid sheep that vote him in every election.
I would not trust one word out of his mouth.
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I am Serbian.
He is a liar ,a fraud, and a traitor . He is actively signing over a piece of our territory to Albania. The Gay Parades were established in Serbia because of him. He put a lesbian as Prime Minister. The west put him in power to do their bidding. He does work for the Russians only partly,because he keeps his stolen money there .
He is a weakling and a bad actor. Sadly,the Serbians of today are stupid sheep that vote him in every election.
I would not trust one word out of his mouth.
Regardless if he is a puppet or not, he makes valid observations. NATO is escalating the conflict with Russia. They are allowing Ukraine to attack Russian territory and cause Russian casualties, civilian or military.
From what you described it sounds like he is a traitor to Serbia all right. But his comments are very valid.
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Well, he’d know. His country started the first one.
Haha - good point!
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Well we came out of a Global pandemic and lockdown and went straight into war within a year then added a second.
Both wars seem to want to be escalated and kept going.
The main Global objective is based around energy transformation. It doesn’t take an IQ of 70 to put together both wars are involve the current Global energy producing areas.
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The only ones killing each other since WW2 in Europe have been these slav gypsies from Yugoslavia and Albania.
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Well we came out of a Global pandemic and lockdown and went straight into war within a year then added a second.
Both wars seem to want to be escalated and kept going.
The main Global objective is based around energy transformation. It doesn’t take an IQ of 70 to put together both wars are involve the current Global energy producing areas.
100% agree with you but also disagree on NATOs globalist method.
Ukrainian gas assets located off the coast where developed slot right in into European pipelines taking away European dependency on Russian gas, pro western government means western companies get to exploit or develop them , Pro Russian they dont get developed and Russia doesn't lose its European dependency or monopoly.
Appreciate current imposed restrictions or sanctions also push countries to invest in other newer cleaner energy sources, driving the energy transition. But feel this one is more about hurting Russia economically through removing European dependency on their gas.
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I am Serbian.
He is a liar ,a fraud, and a traitor . He is actively signing over a piece of our territory to Albania. The Gay Parades were established in Serbia because of him. He put a lesbian as Prime Minister. The west put him in power to do their bidding. He does work for the Russians only partly,because he keeps his stolen money there .
He is a weakling and a bad actor. Sadly,the Serbians of today are stupid sheep that vote him in every election.
I would not trust one word out of his mouth.
A Serbian Film is the only thing I know about Serbia. :-[
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Putin and Russia need to win to defend the rights of peace loving people everywhere and for that to happen Trump needs to win this November and take to his own country and the left leaning establishment cesspool that wants to takeover the world, with the US out of the way, Putin can then finish his mission in Ukraine and hopefully peace can prevail, if they disqualify him or unelect him through some other prejudice, we are well on our way to a Third World War, as Putin rightfully will not take further contempt from NATO and eventually things will escalate.
All a Trump presidency will do is buy us sometime with comments like what the Estonian freely said, post Trump issues will return as there are plenty of war mongering republicans as well as democrats.
Im not pro Trump, or pro Putin, I just want the peace and freedom the world has enjoyed since world war 2 to continue, unfortunately my gut feeling is that it won't.
Because Putler and Russia are so peace loving ::)
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Because Putler and Russia are so peace loving ::)
How are the daily stabbings going in your country again?
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A Serbian Film is the only thing I know about Serbia. :-[
That is one nasty little piece of celluloid.
Very sick and demented.
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How are the daily stabbings going in your country again?
Not sure how that is related other than another example of evil in this world.
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Nuke em back to the stone age.
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100% agree with you but also disagree on NATOs globalist method.
Ukrainian gas assets located off the coast where developed slot right in into European pipelines taking away European dependency on Russian gas, pro western government means western companies get to exploit or develop them , Pro Russian they dont get developed and Russia doesn't lose its European dependency or monopoly.
Appreciate current imposed restrictions or sanctions also push countries to invest in other newer cleaner energy sources, driving the energy transition. But feel this one is more about hurting Russia economically through removing European dependency on their gas.
You are on the right path.
Europe was so mismanaged they allowed Russia to develop pipelines of energy and ties with middle eastern countries and China. This lack of foresight from Europe put the US and allies at risk. This is one gigantic European cockup.
The Western world does not want a strong Syria, strong Russia and superpower China. It’s no surprise the US jumps in to remedy the situation as we all rely on Americans to fix our stupid bullshit decisions. We see the US also stepping up to supply Europe the gas they need, it’s not always some big mastermind plan, the US are rescuing Europe.
By removing Russia from emergy, you reduce the power of Syria and China. I have NFI about any of this as I don’t read any media but if I take a 5 second look this is what I assume has gone down.
The US main focus has always been in the ME. This is where the true energy shock will come from. For this one, the US will ensure it occurs.
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Not sure how that is related other than another example of evil in this world.
The same people that tell you Putin is "evil" also talked you into voting the invading, stabbing, foreign hordes into your own country.
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Brutal if true
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The same people that tell you Putin is "evil" also talked you into voting the invading, stabbing, foreign hordes into your own country.
None of those establishment globalist goons talked me in to voting for mass immigration and Putin talked himself in to how I now see him by invading, pillaging and raping his neighbour and sending half a million of his own people to death for a some fields.
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That is one nasty little piece of celluloid.
Very sick and demented.
Yes, but it keeps me away from Serbia.
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Interesting how Serbs in general are proud of their country yet their government is one of the most corrupt in Europe and doesn't give 2 shits about their people. Stupid brain dead sheep. Just go for a drive through Serbia and you'll see what a shithole it really is. Garbage and poverty everywhere you look and the people just can't wait to scam you somehow. Our country is also full of Serbs and nobody likes them. Not to mention how they are all suckers for flashy things and will do anything to acquire them.
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The same people that tell you Putin is "evil" also talked you into voting the invading, stabbing, foreign hordes into your own country.
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People like Kalla
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https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
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None of those establishment globalist goons talked me in to voting for mass immigration and Putin talked himself in to how I now see him by invading, pillaging and raping his neighbour and sending half a million of his own people to death for a some fields.
You could be a liberal newscaster with those talking points down like that. The Ukraine "war" is about power, printing dollars and getting politicians paid. The country was so corrupt it was asking to be parted out for profit.
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You could be a liberal newscaster with those talking points down like that. The Ukraine "war" is about power, printing dollars and getting politicians paid. The country was so corrupt it was asking to be parted out for profit.
Oh is it not a war? You could get a job with RT. The war is about Putin wanting Ukraine to be apart of Russia again. However corrupt thier country is they have a right to self defence.
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Oh is it not a war? You could get a job with RT. The war is about Putin wanting Ukraine to be apart of Russia again. However corrupt thier country is they have a right to self defence.
It's about the West's desire to break apart Russia.
2014 was a US coup in Ukraine.
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The same people that tell you Putin is "evil" also talked you into voting the invading, stabbing, foreign hordes into your own country.
There was no voting for the invasions. The public voted for whatever politicians were offered. None of the politicians ran campaigns with slogans like "We're going to flood the nation with third world hordes!" or, "You gonna get raped".
But that is what the treasonous politicians delivered. But the citizens are guilty of allowing this BS and not stopping it decades ago. Their inaction is just as bad as voting for it.
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Your wasting your time on the woke Irishman, its like arguing with Hankins about bodybuilding, His brain taps out at Russia Putin Bad, Ukraine good. ;D
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Your wasting your time on the woke Irishman, its like arguing with Hankins about bodybuilding, His brain taps out at Russia Putin Bad, Ukraine good. ;D
Brutally true
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I think that both West and East want the same thing, good business. Nobody wants to destroy the US. The US is still the strongest economy in the world. Things will be OK, but there's going to be an awfully lot pissed off people in the West especially regarding Ukraine. The European governments are clearly already panicking. There were no conspiracies in connection to Ukraine only partially informing the populations. The Western journalists got scared of loosing their jobs. With the inflation and the general state of malaise in the US and Canada, people care less. They're willing to speak the truth more.
That's alright, it's been a fucking clown-show for far too long. Oh and another little thing. Forget the living standards of the last 70 years.
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There was no voting for the invasions. The public voted for whatever politicians were offered. None of the politicians ran campaigns with slogans like "We're going to flood the nation with third world hordes!" or, "You gonna get raped".
Truth.
Our vote is for 1% of the decision making. You cannot change the 99% unless you do an uprising.
The Dutch farmers are attempting that….and losing. So even the most active group against proposed changes can’t get any traction whatsoever. As you rightly pointed out, nobody voted for that and when the pushback came they are getting roadblocked because our 1% vote didn’t cover that bit.
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Your wasting your time on the woke Irishman, its like arguing with Hankins about bodybuilding, His brain taps out at Russia Putin Bad, Ukraine good. ;D
I am not tapping out of anything you think it's a special military operation that is pretty special needs.
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Truth.
Our vote is for 1% of the decision making. You cannot change the 99% unless you do an uprising.
The Dutch farmers are attempting that….and losing. So even the most active group against proposed changes can’t get any traction whatsoever. As you rightly pointed out, nobody voted for that and when the pushback came they are getting roadblocked because our 1% vote didn’t cover that bit.
That's because the Dutch farmers are still trying to play by the rules. Eventually (a few years, or sooner if we have a nuke world war) it will progress to guerilla tactics. Sit back and get your popcorn ready. Europe will be consumed with civil wars. And some of these politicians will be dropping dead.
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That's because the Dutch farmers are still trying to play by the rules. Eventually (a few years, or sooner if we have a nuke world war) it will progress to guerilla tactics. Sit back and get your popcorn ready. Europe will be consumed with civil wars. And some of these politicians will be dropping dead.
it’s a losing battle for farmers anyway because of emissions targets.
really non-productive European countries lose population which they can’t reverse. It’s the shit bags who are heavy with govt workers and are lazy. Greece is -5% population, Italy backwards,
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it’s a losing battle for farmers anyway because of emissions targets.
really non-productive European countries lose population which they can’t reverse. It’s the shit bags who are heavy with govt workers and are lazy. Greece is -5% population, Italy backwards,
In 20 years there will be a lot of real estate available in Greece.