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Title: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2024, 12:14:37 PM
other than Lou.  I would have to guess Labrada.

Most just fall into selling fart powders or online training programs.  While Labrada did go the fart powder route, he did it at a time it was just taking off and must have made very well.

Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 29, 2024, 12:39:22 PM
A top 10 who never won the Olympia but are the richest you mean?
Gaspari would make that list.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: 1Patrick on June 29, 2024, 12:47:16 PM
Agreed on Gaspari however Lisa took big chunk when they’ve got divorced.
I’ve read somewhere Stan Efferding is pretty loaded.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: affeman on June 29, 2024, 12:48:57 PM
Flex Wheeler without a doubt
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: joswift on June 29, 2024, 12:49:39 PM
Success isnt always about the accumulation of wealth.

Roberto Duran was pretty successful but he doesnt have much money
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 29, 2024, 01:59:48 PM
A top 10 who never won the Olympia but are the richest you mean?
Gaspari would make that list.

Yes, basically a person who earned his pro card, but never won the Mr. O.   But still achieved success other ways.

Gaspari was a great pick.

A bit of an over reach, but I would consider Vic Richards the OG Influencer.  The absence of social media probably cost him millions.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: wes on June 29, 2024, 02:02:16 PM
Success isnt always about the accumulation of wealth.

Roberto Duran was pretty successful but he doesnt have much money
Hanky would ragdoll Mr. "Hands Of Stone" !  :D
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: wes on June 29, 2024, 02:04:06 PM
Boyer Coe has done very well in earlier times with his Body Masters line of equipment.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: bhank on June 29, 2024, 10:39:32 PM
Hanky would ragdoll Mr. "Hands Of Stone" !  :D

Absolutely Furan Hands of stone was 155lbs

I am going to say Levrone. Before the 98 Olympia he was winning every show he took the entire Euro tour before he gave his secrets to Ronnie which ended his run. Everyone gives Chad credit but Levrone and his advices are what got Ronnie his first win. 
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 29, 2024, 10:45:00 PM
Gunter
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 29, 2024, 10:52:06 PM
If you google richest bodybuilders in the world, Gary Strydom usually is in the top 10.
In his prime he looked better than the entire current Olympia lineup.

Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 29, 2024, 11:39:58 PM
Mohamed Makkawy.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: King Shizzo on June 30, 2024, 02:54:21 AM
Shawn Ray
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 30, 2024, 05:51:55 AM
 I saw on IG where Rich Gaspari caught a ton of flack for training like an idiot nowadays, heavy t-bars that look like shrugs and so on. Of course tons of bodybuilders came to his defence, basically saying Rich can train however he wants, he's proven himself enough as a bb. Haters also blasted how terrible he looked physically. The youngsters don't understand age.

I only saw some very short training segments with him and seem to remember him training strictly?

i=xFzO2S7FLm3_1kh3

Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 30, 2024, 06:08:55 AM
Absolutely Furan Hands of stone was 155lbs

I am going to say Levrone. Before the 98 Olympia he was winning every show he took the entire Euro tour before he gave his secrets to Ronnie which ended his run. Everyone gives Chad credit but Levrone and his advices are what got Ronnie his first win.


This is true.  Ronnie said the same thing in his book.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 30, 2024, 06:17:06 AM
Gunter

How?  I am not aware that Gunter has achieved a remarkable level of success.  But can you elaborate? 
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: njflex on June 30, 2024, 06:32:50 AM
I saw on IG where Rich Gaspari caught a ton of flack for training like an idiot nowadays, heavy t-bars that look like shrugs and so on. Of course tons of bodybuilders came to his defence, basically saying Rich can train however he wants, he's proven himself enough as a bb. Haters also blasted how terrible he looked physically. The youngsters don't understand age.

I only saw some very short training segments with him and seem to remember him training strictly?

i=xFzO2S7FLm3_1kh3
Gasparri did a lot with his genetics. In this video you can see he didn’t have a good off-season physique like today’s guys do and compare to his on stage for physique which was pretty wicked by now 1990 and up a bit. He started losing it already. The three years he was runner-up, and even his fourth year he was pretty impressive
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: French on June 30, 2024, 07:08:19 AM
Gaspari was fantastic between 85 and 88.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 30, 2024, 08:11:39 AM
How?  I am not aware that Gunter has achieved a remarkable level of success.  But can you elaborate?

Has an IMDB page. Beerfest.

Has a Wikipedia page.

Married to Kim Lyons.

Never went bald

White.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Grape Ape on June 30, 2024, 08:27:11 AM
Gaspari was fantastic between 85 and 88.

That might be one of the best pics ever of him, because of the fullness.

Reminds me of an old black and white contest photo shot from the side, where it looks like his skin could tear if he moved too fast.  I only saw that pic in one of those books at the time  - Ellington Darden book, maybe.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: 1Patrick on June 30, 2024, 08:29:16 AM
Speaking of Kevin and his influence on Ronnie ,this story never gets old.
Kevin is funny AF and cool in real life as well.



 
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: beakdoctor on June 30, 2024, 08:51:59 AM

Absolutely Furan Hands of stone was 155lbs


I am going to say Levrone. Before the 98 Olympia he was winning every show he took the entire Euro tour before he gave his secrets to Ronnie which ended his run. Everyone gives Chad credit but Levrone and his advices are what got Ronnie his first win.

A 135 lb Roberto Duran would rip the meat off your bones. Same as 147 lb, 154 lb, 160 lb and 168 lb.

For the record, there is no 155 lb weight class in boxing. But if you weren't a shameless drug addict, you would weigh 155 max.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: MajorDomo on June 30, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
The Olympia was fixed by the Weiders every year. Lots of great pros never won because of that. End of thread.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: OlympiaGym on June 30, 2024, 10:23:52 AM
Nasser.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: wes on June 30, 2024, 10:47:25 AM
A 135 lb Roberto Duran would rip the meat off your bones. Same as 147 lb, 154 lb, 160 lb and 168 lb.

For the record, there is no 155 lb weight class in boxing. But if you weren't a shameless drug addict, you would weigh 155 max.
X 2....Duran would knock him out in under one minute.

This  clown thinks it`s all about bodyweight....Duran grew up dirt poor... fighting with bats,bricks,lead pipes, etc. etc.,and is one of the "Four Kings" !

Our Little Lord Fauntleroy never had a hard fucking day in his privelaged life.....he`s softer than baby shit!
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Royalty on June 30, 2024, 10:50:46 AM
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Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Wiggs on June 30, 2024, 05:40:01 PM
Wheeler, Kai, Ray, Cormier, Levrone, Vince Taylor,
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: beakdoctor on June 30, 2024, 06:14:39 PM
X 2....Duran would knock him out in under one minute.

This  clown thinks it`s all about bodyweight....Duran grew up dirt poor... fighting with bats,bricks,lead pipes, etc. etc.,and is one of the "Four Kings" !

Our Little Lord Fauntleroy never had a hard fucking day in his privelaged life.....he`s softer than baby shit!

You mean all those years skiing as a child isn't as hard as growing up impoverished, starving in the streets of Panama?

Surely you jest...

You mean losing to Jamie Clegg doesn't prepare you to fight the most vicious boxer of all time?

And how can we forget the time his ex girlfriend tore his pec? Or car door, (whichever lie he told it's hard to keep track) certainly that bodes well for his chances against one of the single greatest fighters of all time? No?
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: visualizeperfection on June 30, 2024, 06:27:05 PM
Wheeler, Kai, Ray, Cormier, Levrone, Vince Taylor,

The questions wasn’t “can you name 6 black people”
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on June 30, 2024, 10:21:01 PM
(https://www.mpomerle.com/Auto/Pictures/Gary_Strydom.jpg)

I think he was 57 in this photo, Gary remained in to shape for an insanely long time:

(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Gary-Strydom.16.jpg)
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 01, 2024, 12:11:22 AM
Gasparri did a lot with his genetics.

I've said the exact same, I don't think anyone has gone as far as Gaspari with his genetics. Unbelievable. Not the best aesthetics, not the biggest, but the combo was great for a few years.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: joswift on July 01, 2024, 12:59:01 AM
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: wes on July 01, 2024, 01:19:43 AM
You mean all those years skiing as a child isn't as hard as growing up impoverished, starving in the streets of Panama?

Surely you jest...

You mean losing to Jamie Clegg doesn't prepare you to fight the most vicious boxer of all time?

And how can we forget the time his ex girlfriend tore his pec? Or car door, (whichever lie he told it's hard to keep track) certainly that bodes well for his chances against one of the single greatest fighters of all time? No?
You`re right bro....what was I thinking ?   LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: bhank on July 01, 2024, 02:32:57 AM
You mean all those years skiing as a child isn't as hard as growing up impoverished, starving in the streets of Panama?

Surely you jest...

You mean losing to Jamie Clegg doesn't prepare you to fight the most vicious boxer of all time?

And how can we forget the time his ex girlfriend tore his pec? Or car door, (whichever lie he told it's hard to keep track) certainly that bodes well for his chances against one of the single greatest fighters of all time? No?

He was 150lbs I would take him down with ease and he would not get back up. Wouldn’t be competitive or difficult in anyway. He was a great 150lb boxer a decent 180lb wrestler goes through him like nothing. I consider myself better than decent and I was 214lbs this am
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2024, 09:20:49 AM
Wheeler, Kai, Ray, Cormier, Levrone, Vince Taylor,

Yes, they were successful as far as being bodybuilders go but what I meant was in terms of financial, non bodybuilding endeavors.

My bad for not being clear there.  Sorry.


***EDIT***
I am referring to bodybuilders who were successful outside of on stage competition.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 01, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
The Olympia was fixed by the Weiders every year. Lots of great pros never won because of that. End of thread.

No arguments here.  While there are some years that the best man on stage really did win, there are more years where that was not the case.  To be honest, after Heath, it was like the Weiders threw their hands up and said "fuck this" because all the others were just cookie cutter versions by that point.  No one stood out or generated hype like Arnold, Lee, Dorian, Jay, etc..    I think they tried to press the reset button with Flexatron, but that fool got locked up and shit.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: joswift on July 01, 2024, 09:26:33 AM
No arguments here.  While there are some years that the best man on stage really did win, there are more years where that was not the case.  To be honest, after Heath, it was like the Weiders threw their hands up and said "fuck this" because all the others were just cookie cutter versions by that point.  No one stood out or generated hype like Arnold, Lee, Dorian, Jay, etc..    I think they tried to press the reset button with Flexatron, but that fool got locked up and sheeete.

fixed
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: 38 returns on July 01, 2024, 10:06:43 AM
Hankins showing again he has never been in a boxing ring before

Duran would  have you pissing blood in 30 seconds- you have no comprehension of how hard and fast the average pro hits. Let alone legend status like Duran.

As for rag sdolling Tyson- Tyson would kit you once and you would be permanently disabled. you show yourself up as having no fight skills or knowledge with your stupidity. every fight you have had as an adult you have quit/ given up. Your word isn't worth shit here. You would get destroyed by 80-90% of the posters on here with ease
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 01, 2024, 12:25:06 PM
Rusty Jeffers has LOADS of $$$.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Bevo on July 01, 2024, 02:37:48 PM
Rusty Jeffers has LOADS of $$$.

Sure he took a bunch of loads as well
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: illuminati on July 01, 2024, 02:44:19 PM
Hankins showing again he has never been in a boxing ring before

Duran would  have you pissing blood in 30 seconds- you have no comprehension of how hard and fast the average pro hits. Let alone legend status like Duran.

As for rag sdolling Tyson- Tyson would kit you once and you would be permanently disabled. you show yourself up as having no fight skills or knowledge with your stupidity. every fight you have had as an adult you have quit/ given up. Your word isn't worth shit here. You would get destroyed by 80-90% of the posters on here with ease

He's already permanently disabled physically & mentally.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: falco on July 01, 2024, 03:35:47 PM
Rusty Jeffers has LOADS of $$$.
He has loads alright.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: irishdave on July 01, 2024, 03:38:33 PM
(https://www.mpomerle.com/Auto/Pictures/Gary_Strydom.jpg)

I think he was 57 in this photo, Gary remained in to shape for an insanely long time:

(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Gary-Strydom.16.jpg)

Ferrigno or Strydom for sure
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: JK on July 01, 2024, 04:41:25 PM
Nasser.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Tarantula157 on July 01, 2024, 04:50:32 PM
Ralph Moeller did quite well...
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: AbrahamG on July 01, 2024, 04:53:02 PM
X 2....Duran would knock him out in under one minute.

This  clown thinks it`s all about bodyweight....Duran grew up dirt poor... fighting with bats,bricks,lead pipes, etc. etc.,and is one of the "Four Kings" !

Our Little Lord Fauntleroy never had a hard fucking day in his privelaged life.....he`s softer than baby shit!

Duran is a top ten p4p all time fighter.  Hindsight is 20/20 but if No Mas doesn't happen and say Duran bites down, goes 15 but loses to SRR giving a spirited effort, he's probably knocking on the door of the top 5 all time.  He was that fucking great.  Hard to argue he's not the best lightweight (135lbs) of all time.  Would have loved to have seen him and The Thin Man aka Alexis Arguello go at it at 135.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Dave D on July 01, 2024, 05:00:38 PM
Wheeler, Kai, Ray, Cormier, Levrone, Vince Taylor,

I think this is the best list. I’m not sure if Vince should have won a Mr. O but he should have won the Masters.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: AbrahamG on July 01, 2024, 05:02:51 PM
My opinion is that the best bodybuilder to never win the Olympia is Shawn Ray.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: BB on July 01, 2024, 05:28:27 PM
Marcus Ruhl, I think has done really well for himself. When you see scenes from his house, etc.... It gives off quiet money vibes. Also he has the happy go lucky manner of a man that's living well and not bothered for cash. He's had his own supplement line for years. He also has a million+ instagram followers and more importantly great interaction with them. It's not just a bunch of bots or dead accounts. And a Youtube account with close to 500,000 subs.

Bill Pearl was another guy with quiet money. In one of his books he was just naming sponsorships and business ventures he was running, and there were dozens of them. In and out of fitness. Real estate things, board of directors appointments, lucrative publishing contracts, etc.....

Labrada was a great choice. The supplement company was huge during the 90s, top 7, if not top 5 most years. Just behind EAS sometimes.

Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: wes on July 01, 2024, 09:23:07 PM
Duran is a top ten p4p all time fighter.  Hindsight is 20/20 but if No Mas doesn't happen and say Duran bites down, goes 15 but loses to SRR giving a spirited effort, he's probably knocking on the door of the top 5 all time.  He was that fucking great.  Hard to argue he's not the best lightweight (135lbs) of all time.  Would have loved to have seen him and The Thin Man aka Alexis Arguello go at it at 135.
I agree wholeheartedly my brother.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on July 01, 2024, 09:44:20 PM
Marcus Ruhl, I think has done really well for himself. When you see scenes from his house, etc.... It gives off quiet money vibes. Also he has the happy go lucky manner of a man that's living well and not bothered for cash. He's had his own supplement line for years. He also has a million+ instagram followers and more importantly great interaction with them. It's not just a bunch of bots or dead accounts. And a Youtube account with close to 500,000 subs.

Bill Pearl was another guy with quiet money. In one of his books he was just naming sponsorships and business ventures he was running, and there were dozens of them. In and out of fitness. Real estate things, board of directors appointments, lucrative publishing contracts, etc.....

Labrada was a great choice. The supplement company was huge during the 90s, top 7, if not top 5 most years. Just behind EAS sometimes.

x2

Has anyone ever heard of a female Olympia bodybuilder who became financially succesfull after retiring from the drugcult sport?
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 02, 2024, 12:20:51 AM
x2

Has anyone ever heard of a female Olympia bodybuilder who became financially succesfull after retiring from the drugcult sport?
No.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: falco on July 02, 2024, 01:44:31 AM
x2

Has anyone ever heard of a female Olympia bodybuilder who became financially succesfull after retiring from the drugcult sport?

Sure. Monica Brant. She is into horses now.
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: joswift on July 02, 2024, 02:26:43 AM
x2

Has anyone ever heard of a female Olympia bodybuilder who became financially succesfull after retiring from the drugcult sport?
Cory
Lenda Murray
Denise Rutkowski
Title: Re: Most successful pro to never win the Mr Olympia
Post by: Royalty on July 02, 2024, 02:28:49 AM
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